I see a lot of folks questioning my usage of the word "manipulative". The reason I used that word is because it's relevant to the topic of this very video: We need to be able to analyze intent, behavior, AND outcome. Not just one of the three. Manipulation has a very strong emotional connotation of hatred, malice, and evil, but I don't think that's healthy or correct. Tons of things with good intentions ARE still manipulative, and being able to CALL them manipulative is valuable. It's a means to defend ourselves against psychological abuse, and recognize potential prejudice.

@snivysnake8992

Ай бұрын

I just gotta know man... HOW do you have it in you to keep reviewing G5 while handling the backlash from G5 fans? I still watch it but I just can't STAND the bad writing or characters! Yeah yeah I know "But they're some good episodes" arguments but a little good DOESN'T outweigh the bad. And G5 just keeps getting worse. I don't WANT to hate G5 i will always be a Brony but it's so hard to like anything about G5

Pipp's and Zipp's methods in this episode sound familiar. Namely, what typical parents call "tough love." That doesn't make it any better, but it seems like that's a kind of thing the writers were going for.

I still really liked this episode, but when you put it like that, I can definitely see what you mean. Mainly not leaving Misty alone when she clearly wanted to reconcile the situation by herself, and editing that together without her permission, it does come off a lot more intrusive than what I personally felt when watching this episode. I suppose I am mroe willing to see the flaws in an episode that I personally don't enjoy, rather than one that I do. Just as you said in the last video.

this episode basically has the same moral as one of the very first season 1 episodes "unboxing izzy", just replace friends with family & Misty with hitch. edited: just rewatched that one s1 episode, they're a little different, still very simillar though

I couldn't figure out exactly why I didn't like this episode, but you hit the nail on the head! 1:39 To be fair, Zipp and Pipp mentioned that they edited out the mishaps And Cloudpuff was cute tho, we should see more of him

The way you use manipulative in this is kinda very strong and negative. Not trying to disagree but you say this like Pipp and Zipp did this out of spite for Misty but it’s really not. I mean sure it kinda can be a realistic way people act but they ultimately did this to try to get Misty to not feel so bad about ruining their vacation. And also taking her stuff without permission yes ok, but also trying to rectify the situation. How else do you think they should’ve handled it ? just leaving someone to their own misery can sometimes do more harm than good.

Addy do you think you will rank every season 1 tyt episode from worst to best

I gotta respectfully disagree here, first I feel like you use a lot of words loosely "manipulative" and "obsessed" being examples. You use the word "barge" as if they were going to tell her to suck it up, they went in because they saw that their soon to be sister was sad. Pipp and Zipp weren't trying to dismiss Misty's worries as after the first two clips they even say that she has a point. Zipp and Pipp only made the video because they acknowledged Misty worries and did that to show her the more positive side of the trip and since you'll be joining a family you have to understand that not everything is going to go perfectly. My only nitpick with this episode is that nobody realized that Misty wasn't enjoying herself sooner.

@Fungo4

Ай бұрын

The writing was so bizarre, not only did no one realize Misty was having a bad time, but they didn't seem to have any memory at all of the previous events until she brings them up. Like they've been on this trip with her and have to be reminded of the big things that happened on it?

@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic

Ай бұрын

@@Fungo4 They were having fun, and didn’t recognize how much the constant mishaps were affecting Misty internally. The whole point of the montage was that Zipp and Pipp needed to see things from her perspective in order to really understand how she’s feeling.

@AddyLovestar

Ай бұрын

I think the intention was very poorly substantiated, which was my big gripe with the episode. I don't think the way they treated her would be healthy in a real setting

@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic

Ай бұрын

@@AddyLovestar Perhaps not the privacy aspect (like barging in and taking Misty’s files as you mentioned), but I didn’t see anything unhealthy with the other aspects, such as the family initially being oblivious, but then realizing how important this trip was to her and showing her the bright side of it all, that it’s ultimately the bonds you forge with those you love that matter most, rather than the day itself being a disaster.

I see where you’re coming from with this, really I do. On a surface level, I’d be inclined to agree. But I just don’t see anything in this episode as “manipulative.” Like, sure. Could Zipp and Pipp have asked to come in? I mean, yeah. It’s like Rule #1 of privacy, what are y’all doin’? But that almost never happens in any sort of media. It’s much more convenient to just have them come in, especially when you have an episode so jam packed with stuff happening like this one, with a breezy runtime to boot. And the way you say it, it makes me feel like you’re saying that the sisters were doing this out of malice, when they really weren’t. They weren’t trying to demean her unhappiness in any way, nor trying to say “lol, get over yourself” or anything like that. Rather, they were trying to cheer Misty up by showing her the bright side of the trip; that although things went horribly wrong during each activity, the most important thing is that they were spending time together as a family and making long lasting memories as a result. They weren’t treating Misty badly. Instead, they were more so oblivious to how upset she really was and how much this vacation meant to her. It was her idea after all. The fact that they didn’t understand how badly the mishaps were affecting Misty until they talked with her is part of what makes the ending so impactful. Them putting together the edited version of the vacation montage was meant to be them showing her how much fun they really had visually, since words alone couldn’t get through to her. Misty was so disappointed over everything going wrong that the only way for her to see the bright side of things was to see it firsthoof. And she comes to see that. She realizes that although things may not have gone according to plan, the experience was still a memorable one, and they had a ton of fun regardless. Misty tends to overreact to stuff and blame herself personally whenever things go wrong. That, coupled with her generally low self-esteem, would make it so that her pre-existing feelings of doubt over the mishaps would be amplified to “this trip is a disaster, nopony had any fun.” Some handle mishaps better than others, and we see how much the trip means to Misty, how she thought it would be this perfect day of bonding before everything went so wrong. You just have to consider Misty’s mental/emotional state, and how she’s generally still kinda new to this kind of family bonding stuff. Of course she would want it to be perfect and then overreact when things go horribly awry. The whole plot hinges on Zipp and Pipp showing Misty the bright side of things and demonstrating that sometimes, things rarely go according to plan, but that’s okay. The episode is about bonding with family and embracing the imperfections that come with family life like you said. Rarely anything goes according to plan, and the most memorable of experiences come from the most unexpected of moments. None of what’s happening here is intended to be manipulative or mean. Instead, it shows the reality of what it’s like to be part of an expanded family. It’s messy, and it’s complicated. Things go wrong, but the most important thing is that your loved ones are there to look out for you every step of the way. It’s for these reasons that I consider the episode to be very well-written. I see where you’re coming from, and kudos to you for pointing out the blatant privacy violation. But none of the episode was manipulative or harmful. I can understand where that reading might come from if you look at it from a certain perspective, but I just don’t see it. I don’t see anypony “enforcing their will on her” at all, nor do I see the episode trying to portray that as a positive. Hope you understand. :)

@mikaylaakridge4635

Ай бұрын

Thank you I was saying the exact same thing too. Maybe she needs to be careful in how she uses the word manipulative since that can be taken the wrong way.

@JakeBosh15

Ай бұрын

I wish I would've seen this sooner because I just typed up a little something myself.

@AddyLovestar

Ай бұрын

I never said they were being malicous, just callous. It's important to recognize that we can harm others even when we intend to do good things. That's why I said the intentions were good, but the behavior wasn't. It's important to look at the reality and not just the intention. Regardless of whether it was meant to be manipulative or mean, the actions the characters took were manipulative and mean Also, I appreciate your insight on Misty's mindset, but I think the writers themselves failed to communicate that. Honestly, it sounds like you wrote a better episode than they did. It'd be really cool if Misty saw the joy that her trip brought others and was invigorated by it, but that's not what the episode itself communicates. Your post mostly convinced me that you should be writing Tell Your Tale, because you see a lot of positive outcomes and creative angles that the show doesn't seem to It's good to look at what's really being said, not just how it appears

@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic

Ай бұрын

@@AddyLovestar Aww, thanks. I’d love to, but if I wrote the show, every episode would be a 22 minute special instead of the normal 5 minutes that Hasbro prefers. And when every episode’s a special, none of them will be to paraphrase Syndrome from the Incredibles. But in all seriousness, I do believe that is exactly what they were conveying in practice. You clearly see Misty light up once she sees how much joy the trip brought others. That was the whole point of the resolution being the way it was. I’m not just speaking from an intentions standpoint. Perhaps my wording was a little off (and again, I’m not the best at communicating these things in a non-video format), but I believe that aside from the clear invasion of privacy, both the concept and executions go well together. I don’t see the actions as callous or the behavior of the characters bad. I already explained everything in my previous comment, so I’m not just talking about intentions. I’m talking about what the episode actually conveys as well. I think judging by how everything turned out, they executed it very well. It’s fine if you don’t though. I’m just pointing out that I had a completely different reading of the episode and that this is how I personally interpreted the characters’ actions.

@AddyLovestar

Ай бұрын

Thank you for being so respectful about this

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My biggest problem watching was I noticed that ONLY Misty remembered some VERY traumatic events. I mean, there were large wild animals chasing and fireworks on the ground. Life changing, life threatening. These were not little inconveniences and yet Misty was the only one who recalled these events and only when being presented with video evidence were the others like "Ooooh yeeeah, that happened. Whoooah!" OH but the worst part was the damn Sailor Moon cutie mark chant. I guess they forgot to do it in the last episode with Posey and Pipp because that was the first really good episode of season 2 I can remember. Other that stuff (and the stuff mentioned here about privacy) I loved it.

I loved it. First I was hoping that Queen Haven and Alphabittle are going to get married and tell their daughters about their marriage and Misty, Pipp, and Zipp will be sisters and sing I Choose You and in the second or third special will show Queen Haven and Alphabittle get married in there! Second, the problem is all episodes will be bi-weekly, we have to wait in 2 weeks for the episodes to come out, but if we are lucky, they will stop it in maybe in the middle of June or July, cross your fingers! Third, Let's hope Queen Haven and Alphabittle will get married maybe in the second or third special. Fourth, Let's hope they will make a third season for Tell Your Tale!

I also didn't like this episode. I'm just tired of Misty. Her entire arc is being sad and mopping around. Ironically i think i saw her most happy when she was with Opaline, at least in TYT when she was goofing around and slurping smoothies while Opaline was having a meltdown with racoons. Now she's mostly miserable with her "supposed friends". I just want to see episodes of Posey or other Mane6, i have enough of Misty for the rest of TYT.

@mikaylaakridge4635

Ай бұрын

You do realized that Opaline is the reason she’s like this right? Before she never had any real friends and never really experience life outside that castle. Plus do you remember all those times that Opaline literally belittled and manipulated her. Seriously? 😂 What a joke

@Fungo4

Ай бұрын

@@mikaylaakridge4635 That's the ironic part, she shouldn't be like that.

@mikaylaakridge4635

Ай бұрын

@@Fungo4 Weird thing is, I kinda see your point.

@MrConredsX

Ай бұрын

@@mikaylaakridge4635 The joke is the writing that they only make her do that after Opaline is gone and not when she supposedly bellitled yet she drink smoothies and act as Opaline is just her wacky mom in TYT episodes. Your headcanons cannot fill in for the unreasonable contradicting writing.

@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic

Ай бұрын

@@MrConredsX The only joke here is you reaching so hard to criticize this generation that you literally make up “contradictory writing” in your head. Did you really forget the episode “Under The Mistytoe,” where Opaline outright makes Misty cry after yelling at her for her failure? Or “As The Misty Clears,” where Misty recognizes that Opaline is a bad influence on her? Or the numerous episodes that show Misty having fun with her friends, most events which were recapped in the episode “Misty Moves In” for those who didn’t see the prior episodes? Tell me your comment is satire without telling me your comment is satire. 😂

Not my favorite episode of season 2 honestly I kinda understand what they were going for but it does come off as a little rude of pipp and zipp, last episode was how pipp should be this episode it didn’t feel like her or zipp was their selves.

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Okay now I agree with you this time! I was not a fan of this episode bad episode! I really don't like these episodes that focus on Queen Haven and the royals but they never focus on the other parents like Grandma Figgy or Phyliss! Tell Your Tale seems to focus attention alot on the royals it's like Queen Haven is somehow gaslighting the writers to focus the spotlight on her! It's not as bad as Mare Day Family Problem but even Misty admitted the trip was ruined the trip wouldn't be ruined if Queen Haven, Pipp and Zipp wasn't there ruining it I would preferred if this was just a father and daughter trip with just Misty and her dad like why does Queen Haven and the royals have to ruin it? Misty said she wanted the trip to spend time with her dad! I give this episode a 2/5! A downgrade compared to last episode! No Posey! We went from episodes that focused on the background characters like Posey and Windy and Zoom and Thunder to a basic episode focuses on the most basic overused characters! The song was good though! But I am not a fan of HavenXAlpha! I hope we get Phyliss or Sprout in the next episode maybe Phyliss because she appeared in only one episode of TYT then after that the writers somehow forgot about her! And why is Misty hanging out with Queen Haven she's a terrible ruler just like Opaline it's like leaving Kim Jon Ung and hanging out with Putin lol! And for the 100th time stop saying when my cutie mark comes to life Misty!!! (Slaps forehead) The writing of Tell Your Tale is making me loose hope for G5 I'm starting to see why some people don't like Tell Your Tale the writing really does suck and they remove characters we loved like Sprout! But I still am a G5 fan I still like G5 especially Sunny and Izzy who are the best ponies of G5! I think we should start writing our own fanficts and make our own episodes now if this is how the writing of the show is going to go down like this! You are right Queen Haven, Pipp and Zipp where being very manipulating Misty in this episode!

@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic

Ай бұрын

Um…no. On so many levels, no.

@javierfebronio8907

Ай бұрын

I still can't get over how Alphabittle and Haven went from mortal enemies to hopeless lovers in a year

@jordantrainor2617

Ай бұрын

​@@javierfebronio8907Well Luz and Amity from The Owl House started off as rivals before becoming lovers after a few months, so...

@kingtechnology9350

Ай бұрын

@@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic Sorry but I am with Addy this time Hawk. I really don't think it's necessary to make Queen Haven and Alphabittle a married couple it doesn't make sense they where enemies in the movie I don't see how Queen Haven started having feeling for Alphabittle all of a sudden we never see Queen Haven or Alphabittle dating in the movie the writers just decided to ship them on the show. They never even mentioned they are dating we only see Haven filrting with Alphabittle and hanging out but nothing about them being in a relationship ship is said out loud. The only canon relationship that is mentioned in the show the is JazzxRocky. And do we really need to make Zipp, Pipp and Misty sisters? That goes against the point of the message of the show that your family doesn't have to be your family through marriage your friends can be your family too. I prefer to have Zipp, Pipp and Misty stay as unrelated friends and sisters as friendship sisters like Rainbow Dash and Scootaloo not like marriage sisters. If Misty is going to be related to Zipp and Pipp why don't we just make all of the Mane 5 related to each other? If you ship HavenXAlpha go ahead but I in my opinion I don't think we need to make Zipp, Pipp and Misty sisters through their parents marriage they should just be friends.

@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic

Ай бұрын

@@kingtechnology9350So Alphabittle and Queen Haven can’t be in a relationship because they were enemies in the movie? That makes no sense. Characters have to progress and evolve throughout any story. It’s fine if you personally don’t like the AlphaHaven ship, but I see it as a natural progression of their characters, and further contribute to the core ideas of unity and community between the tribes. Also, Misty becoming Zipp and Pipp’s stepsister doesn’t go against the themes of friends also being your family at all. Does the fact that they become sisters suddenly make Sunny, Izzy, and Hitch’s roles as friends less important? No, it doesn’t. They all equally treat Misty as family. Heck, Izzy even said in Chapter 5 that she always wanted another unicorn to be part of the family. The fact that Misty becomes part of an actual family doesn’t negate their roles in the slightest. It just shows that the status quo is evolving, and that Misty has a larger support system now. On top of that, remember that Zipp and Pipp were originally Misty’s friends before they became her actual family, so if anything, that only adds to the theme of friends becoming your family too. The way I see it, the new sisterhood dynamic is one of the best ideas that Tell Your Tale Season 2 has ever introduced on a thematic level, and I hope they do more with it.