Can we talk about the fact that the episode clearly conveys how Misty's anxiety isn't simply about the roller coaster itself, but that she fears her friends seeing and thinking she's a weak, pathetic coward. This is brought up multiple times by Ghost Misty, and yet the episode does absolutely nothing to address that. What will happen the next time she's afraid of something? She still won't tell her friends about it and might do something more reckless or dangerous.

My problem with this episode is that it is the exact same plot that other misty episodes has

It’s always bothered me how G5 and even G4 treat characters that have certain preferences (like introverts and certain fears) as something to be cured or overcome. At the end of the day, not everyone’s the same. If you have a friend who can’t stand being on an intense ride, you should respect them and not force them to do something they don’t want to. And like you mentioned with Misty’s other self, stuff such as anxiety can’t be removed. Like in Inside Out 2 recently (SPOILERS) how while Anxiety’s no longer as controlling over Riley as before is still a part of her.

@Fungo4

Ай бұрын

Didn't G4 do the opposite?

@sweetdreams1028

Ай бұрын

@@Fungo4 in terms of G4 I was mainly referring to how they treated Moondancer as unhealthy all because she preferred to be introverted. G4 did treat characters with phobias better respect though. Mainly Fluttershy with her preferring to stay home during Nightmare Night.

@Fungo4

Ай бұрын

@@sweetdreams1028 Ah, yeah I get what you mean. Even in that case, it was exclusively Twilight who kept imposing on Moondancer even as everyone else was telling her to let it be. And Twilight had bad reasons for doing it too, it was all self-centered.

@sweetdreams1028

Ай бұрын

@@Fungo4 indeed. I love Twilight, but it’s obnoxious how she treats herself as the main character of her world. Even though she’s the main character, that doesn’t mean she’s the deciding factor in everyone’s lives.

@Fungo4

Ай бұрын

@@sweetdreams1028 I agree completely, and I think it's brilliant writing honestly. She's convinced that she's become the perfect friend, nay, she's ALWAYS been a great friend, but the truth is she hasn't changed as much as she imagines she has. She's still a self-absorbed snob, she just projects it onto others by assuming any problem must be directly related to her personal failures.

With all due respect, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Misty’s evil form is not a natural manifestation of her anxiety that she needs to treat with care or delicacy. It’s a parasitic demon that attempts to socially isolate her from everything and everyone she loves, a toxic and harmful voice in her head that essentially wants one thing and one thing only: Misty being scared and alone for the rest of her life. It’s not a healthy emotion. We’ve seen Misty deal with anxiety before and it never manifests itself into this ghostly creature. This is not a healthy inner voice. It’s something that needs to be destroyed for her own mental health. The evil Misty is essentially an allegory for those harmful types of voices in your head that tell you to do horrible things, harm yourself, so on and so forth. This isn’t healthy, and the episode knows this, which is why it has this explosive resolution. Misty spends the episode being relentlessly tormented by this thing until she finally stands up to it, and that shows actual development on her part, the fact that she is the one to take the initiative and doesn’t need prompting to do so. The show isn’t trying to enforce its worldview onto Misty, nor try to turn her into a “normal pony.” This episode’s lesson is one of coming out of your comfort zone and overcoming your fears. Misty never has to stop being who she is, but she learns to come out of her shell a little bit through morals like this, whether it be embracing the imperfections of family life, or learning that it is okay to ride a rollercoaster. While it is always good to be yourself and ensure others respect that, it is equally important to not be afraid to broaden your horizons and be open minded to trying new things whenever it’s necessary. If we stick to the rigid mindset that “this is who I am, and I’ll never try anything else,” then we effectively lose that development. Misty doesn’t have to change who she is, but she needs to be shown in more situations like this that challenge her in order to progress her character. Misty shows her agency in this episode by choosing to go on the rollercoaster herself and tell her inner voice “No. You don’t have power over me. I can do this.” While you should always treat genuine anxiety with care and respect, this was a form of anxiety that if not conquered, could have had drastic consequences to her mental state. Her friends even respect her wishes not to ride the rollercoaster initially, showing development on their part from when they initially couldn’t respect her boundaries in “Misty Moves In.” That shows growth on their part. They ask her “Are you sure?” and when she says no, they don’t force her, demonstrating that they’re not forcing her to conform to the way they do things. If Misty’s not comfortable, they respect that, and she has to be the one to learn that lesson on her own. Finally, the whole “cutting in line” thing was meant to be funny. Yeah, in real life, it’s extremely questionable, but they clearly wanted to treat this moment like a hilarious gag and it is. But you do make a good point about how there’s no repercussions for this. Ultimately, I see it as a great episode with an effective message, even if it’s not an all-time high.

@AddyLovestar

Ай бұрын

I've understood your point, I just disagree with it. But you're very welcome to state your opposing view here regardless. It's important to create discussion about these things

@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic

Ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@AddyLovestarIt’s completely fine for us to disagree, I do agree. I just wanted to put my two cents out there. I know we already discussed it in the comments of my video, but my comment here was more so for others coming in to this video for the first time in case they want a different perspective or additional context on the topic. I actually like the fact that our viewpoints can sometimes be completely opposed as it (mostly) creates interesting discussion around the episodes. :)

@kingtechnology9350

Ай бұрын

No the evil demon is not Misty's fear of rollercoasters it's okay to be afraid of rollercoasters even you yourself said in your review that you relate to Misty and you also afraid of rollercoasters. The real demon is telling her if she doesn't ride the rollercoaster then her friends won't like her anymore and won't be her friends which is not true ofcourse they never said that in the episode its Misty who was imagining that in her head about her friends. This episode is sending a wrong message. This episode is opposite of Misty Moves In in that episode they respected her opinions.

I think hasbro saw insideout 2

@erickkaranja3692

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@kingtechnology9350

Ай бұрын

It's the mlp version of Inside Out!

Misty's anxiety is also likely a manifestation of her PTSD from living with Opaline. Constantly fearing that if she doesn't please her friends, then they'll abandon her or abuse her. This could have been a good learning moment for the other characters to realise that they're maybe pushing her too much when she's not ready. It's not just a fear of rollercoasters, it's her not being in the headspace to break her safe and comfortable routine. If the others were to recognize that, they could help Misty slowly overcome her fear and anxiety by doing things at a pace that she's comfortable with.

@AddyLovestar

Ай бұрын

Yeah, there are a ton of way healthier morals the show could've taught here

I turned it off when the rollercoaster left the track and started flying on a rainbow. Like, wtf, and why? First of all I HATE rollercoasters. Just looking at one makes me feel queasy. So I don't appreciate the implication that I'm somehow letting a ghostly shadow me take over and keep me from riding one when you could not PAY me enough to try it. If I had a social life left I would be perfectly content to let my friends ride and not think twice about us not sharing the expereince. I'd hang around the park or just go home. Also, I never got that Misty was scared of anything or introverted in any way. She's a bucking Ninja Commando!

You know now that you mention it Addy, this is the one problem I have with this show is that it is hellbent on showing us that having any type of mental illness is wrong and constantly mocks those in the audience who,like Misty suffers from. I myself deal with depression and my family does not understand that well, but they are trying to better. This show however is straight up disrespectful and unkind to those that deal with this sort of thing and acts like we are in the wrong for not acting normal like others.😢 It honestly sickens me I hate to say.

@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic

Ай бұрын

I have to disagree. My video will cover more of this, but the show is not trying to treat mental illness as wrong. Rather, it’s just showing how Misty needs to sometimes broaden her horizons and come out of her comfort zones in order to progress as a character. Misty standing up to her evil counterpart shows real development on her part and demonstrates that she needed to be the one to learn that lesson on her own. I don’t see it as disrespectful at all. TYT is not trying to say that Misty needs to completely change who she is, rather be open to trying new things. With all due respect, I think Addy’s unintentionally misunderstanding the writing and messages present here.

@mikaylaakridge4635

Ай бұрын

@@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic Yeah you’re right. To me it’s just how they portray the others and how their behavior can sometimes negatively affect Misty kinda made me remember time of how I was treated sometimes. So thank you for giving that insight friend. ☺️

@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic

Ай бұрын

@@mikaylaakridge4635No problem. :)

I've been in a similar situation to Misty, being afraid to ride the "Big Coaster", when I was younger. How I over came that fear, at least in the moment, was to gradually build up my confidence, slowly ramping up the intensity by, sometimes repeatedly, riding less intense rides until I felt just courageous enough to try The Cyclone. This gradual process could have been shown with Misty and maybe one or two of the others riding other rides most of the day until the final act where Misty has finally amassed enough courage, with the help of her friends' encouragement, to suppress her fear enough to triumphantly ride the roller coaster. Maybe end the episode with Misty's ghost saying something like, "That was actually kind of fun. Maybe we should do it again?". Acknowledging her fear is still there but, it can be controlled through hard work and effort.

All I'd like to say is that I wish Masky was treated along the lines of Badeline from Celeste. You know, despite her acts of manipulation and emphasizing the self-doubt that Misty does suffer from, that it is a part that Misty shouldn't just dispel. A part that she should be able to acknowledge and work on improving, which this episode does provide that step in the right direction for her. But again, note Masky's final attempt at manipulation: "Face it, Misty. You're not brave enough to join the others. That's why you'll always be alone...well, apart from me, of course~ We're going to be *best friends forever~* " I can definitely see how this comes off as Masky seducing Misty to give into her anxieties of her peers' rejection and her mental weakness, and she definitely is. But the things she says, and the way she says it, she come off to me as a manifestation of Misty's fight or flight to these fears of hers, acting as a defense mechanism of sorts, as much as she knows full well that her actions are only worsening Misty's self-image. And that last sentence, in particular, comes off as a part of her that wants to assure that there can be solace in being alone and stagnant. She's wrong, but that's clearly a part of her that could've changed, rather than being erased completely. I would have loved it if this episode ended Misty giving Masky comfort, before she fades away, instead of just leaving Masky to scream in pain and die off. Maybe we'll get an episode like that in the future, on anxieties that are more helpful than what is presented here, giving Masky that redemption.

@SmokeTheHorsehog

Ай бұрын

On a separate note, I find it funny that you don't see the rollercoaster's launch into the sky as symbolic imagery, but are able to see it in a film that is criticized for similar reasons as to how you are criticizing that scene. I am, of course, referring back to your review of A Troll in Central Park.

I've heard people say that this "evil Misty" is Opaline trying to put Misty back under her control, but I find that very hard to believe.

@autumbreeze1129

Ай бұрын

It would've at least been SOMETHING, instead of what we did get, which was NOTHING

ANOTHER get over your emotions Misty episode? Ok...... I'm getting REAL tired of Misty. Seriously BUILD THE OTHER CHARACTERS Misty is done! We get it "Oh poor Misty, oh she was abused, oh Misty this oh Misty that, feel bad for Misty" They have to realize that right now Misty has no more character to develop (not right now anyways) just focus on the others...but we know that's NEVER going to happen because everyone falls for the emotional manipulation of Misty. "Oh remember when Misty was abused and has emotional problems FEEL BAD FOR HER!"

Misty managed to conquer her biggest fears

Another big problem is how they didn't properly utilise the idea of Misty’s fear taking on an Astral form and taunting her is... it wasn't just in her mind. They made a point to show her Astral form driving one of those bubble bumper cars. If it was just in her head, it wouldn't have been able to do that. This opens up the possibility that it was something else (I was expecting Alura to somehow be behind it or maybe Opaline's spirit taking on Misty’s appearance to make her question who she really is deep down inside and... nothing. Literally just an unexplained Astral form from within Misty’s conciousness that is able to physically interact with the real world and it leads to Literally nothing. WHY even bother if they're not going to actually DO anything with that?! I decided to finally give G5 a proper chance and THIS is what they do? Seriously?

@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic

Ай бұрын

You’re overthinking this way too much. To be fair, I have seen a lot of people misinterpret the astral Misty, so you’re not the only one, but it was not anything but Misty’s inner demons ponified. She was imagining it, and there’s evidence to this being the case in the episode itself too, that being that nopony else could see it except Misty, and in the one scene you pointed out, the bubble bumper car that the evil Misty took was of the exact same color as the one our Misty was riding, and it was all ghostly as well. So there’s not a deeper meaning there. Misty was hallucinating her inner demon being there and interacting with her. It was never a physical presence, it was just in her mind.

I know it is supposed to be funny Misty dragging her Shadow to the coaster but it feels cruel. Then again the Shadow was being cruel to her. So I think the Shadow being supportive of her not going on the coaster instead of ridiculing her and saying they can have just as much fun together would have been better. And then when Misty decides she wants to join her friends, she either leaves her Shadow behind because it is scared or they become one person again. ALSO is this taking place on the same day Pipp made friends with Posey last episode? Because she's being very rude ignoring Posey like that. So I guess Posey is back to being antagonist? Sighs.. Prayers for best pony Posey /)(\

This episode was forcing Misty to overcome her fear of rollercoasters just to impress her friends. You shouldn't have to force yourself to do something you are afraid of just to impress your friends like if I don't learn how to sky dive I won't be able to be friends with my friends that's a bad lesson the lesson should be you can be afraid of rollercoasters and just say no and your friends will be okay with it and you can still be friends it's okay not to like the same thing they like. This episode says you have to force yourself to overcome your fears in order to impress your friends! Even Pipp said herself she was afraid but was pretending not to be afraid and forcing herself to ride the rollercoaster with her friends! If somebody told me to ride a rollercoaster I would run away I don't care if I was called a chicken or a baby there are so many other things you can do with your friends that doesn't involve scaring yourself to death on a rollercoaster. Misty has been so overused in so many episodes there is no room for Sprout! Why does Misty get so many episodes about her overcoming her past but why can't they do this with Sprout? Why is Misty a more reedable pony than Sprout? She is so overrated especially among the G4 fans and I can see why they like simple characters that have to learn the same cliche lessons over again. And I am getting sick and tired of Misty saying when my cutie mark comes to is getting annoying why does she always have to say that to encourage herself when she is like having an axiety attack? I am hoping next episode is a Posey or Zoom or Thunder or Sunny or Izzy episode! We had enough episodes of Misty having to learn the same lessons! In my opinion Misty is an overrated, overused and pointless addition to the Mane 5 who wasn't even in the movie and introduced in Make Your Mark just so there will be 2 unicorns they should have just stuck with the Mane 5 from the movie or used Onyx or Bongo Beats rather than introduce a new pony!

In certain instances, I can understand your perspective, but I don't believe the episode intended to portray Misty as flawed. The central issue in this episode revolves around Misty's fear of rollercoasters. Speaking from a personal standpoint, I don't find fault in how Misty confronted her fears since I have followed a similar approach in the past (though I acknowledge it may not be the most effective method for everyone). The climax of the episode showcases Misty eradicating her fear akin to 'Thanos snapping,' resulting in her experiencing enjoyment. Personally, I also resonated with feeling empowered as a younger individual when conquering fear where it seemed that it just shattered. Side Note 1:Posey is right about not skipping in line but don't let it get to you as it's kindergarten knowledge that it's wrong (I'm referring to the actual kids watching the show) Side Note 2: I don't think the mane 5 are too big of a problem as they don't actively try to coerce Misty into doing something she doesn't want to do.

@AddyLovestar

Ай бұрын

The intent is not nearly as important as the execution and outcome. I already understand that the intent was positive, but I'm here to judge the end result

@JakeBosh15

Ай бұрын

@@AddyLovestar Hence the power of perspective; I didn't see it that way at all.

@AddyLovestar

Ай бұрын

Right, we're in agreement that we have different opinions. Which is why I don't think bringing up the intent is relevant. We both understand the intent of the episode

Seriously Addy,no matter how this season is doing so great so far you still have to be negative.I agree with you that this episode is a little meh but the writers are clearly trying to potrey Misty's character since she is the most underrated and thats why this season has by far a lot of episodes mainly focused on her.At least the main five did not force her or anything she faces her fears in a weird way but i totally respect your own point of view .Am not hating am just stating.

@AddyLovestar

Ай бұрын

I just have a different opinion from you. It is okay and healthy and normal to have a different opinion, and likewise perfectly okay to express it. Goodness

@sweetdreams1028

Ай бұрын

Let me ask you a question, why did Abby get into G5 in the first place? Because she loved A New Generation. And she even loved early TYT, MYM Chapters One and mostly Two, and some other bits of G5 content here and there. To say that she hates anything G5 related is straight up brushing off something off just because you got mad over someone not enjoying something you did.

Im just skipping Misty episodes. Its all the same episodes about insecurities like Fluttershy about assertiveness

@mikaylaakridge4635

Ай бұрын

Here’s an idea find something else to watch. It’s like you purposely try not to listen to anyone. If you don’t like it, find something else, but by god stop being so ignorant.😂

@MrConredsX

Ай бұрын

@@mikaylaakridge4635 I can watch whanever i want, I dont care about your comment and about Misty

@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic

Ай бұрын

@@MrConredsXYou frankly don’t seem to care about anything, to be honest, so I’m not surprised. 🤡

@mikaylaakridge4635

Ай бұрын

@@MrConredsX Whatever take your shitty attitude somewhere else pal.

@PresidentOfTheNewLunarRepublic

Ай бұрын

@@MrConredsXYou don’t seem to care about anything, to be honest, so I’m not surprised. 🤣