Formula 1 really ought to reintroduce the smoke screen as a counter-DRS.

@funkytransport

2 жыл бұрын

i think we have a lot to learn from Mario Kart.. its a very popular series :)

Fun Fact: My Great-Grandpa worked as a mechanic for Karl Lottes at one of the motorcycle races back then

Richard "Dick" Seaman was welcomed to the bosom of racing when Mercedes brought him into the fold and he made a real splash, changing the face of racing when he burst onto the scene proving to be the cream of the crop.

@thethirdman225

2 жыл бұрын

His ability to put the Mercedes missile where it was meant to go was said to be awesome.

@thehorsehunter

2 жыл бұрын

i felt the need to take a shower after reading this.

@x-vector7245

2 жыл бұрын

Apparantly his favourite passing move was to "sneak it up the inside".

@Dethmeister

2 жыл бұрын

He powered through when things got sticky in the cockpit.

@Dethmeister

2 жыл бұрын

Whether it was loose or tight, he always managed to squirt through the curves.

This track is exactly what I look for in racing games. The old, the forgotten, the obscure and the frankly dangerous. Along with cars that are equivalent.

@carlkalman5479

2 жыл бұрын

Daniel, you have to say those pioneers of Motorsport had seriously huge Cojones to compete back then. I have also noticed iRacing and ACC fans in their own lobbies (uploaded on to KZread) have dabbled in running GT and NASCARs around the old Monza circuit, including the banking with, shall we say, differing results.

@crunchyfrog555

2 жыл бұрын

@@carlkalman5479 Definitely! The first tiem I tried Assetto Corsa with an older car on the banking at Monza, it was bloody scary. Ican't imagine what it must have been like back then in reality. I can't remember what British driver it was who said he was always scared on certain tracks and used the old trick of screaming as loud as he could in his helmet to make his adrenaline spike. Nutters.

@AJBa83

2 жыл бұрын

@@crunchyfrog555 fairly sure that was the late David Purley, who said he did that at Rouen into the first corner and that it was an old paratroopers trick from his army days.

Honestly as a modder myself I have absolutely no idea how FatAlfie does it without him treating this like a full time job. Of course there are some textures that can be reused from previous work, but the amount of hours this must take is just astounding. Inspirational.

New FatAlfie track = instadownload The Weihenstephaner bottles on the pavement at 1:12 are a brilliant touch!

Hey Jake, I'm from Hessen myself. I had earlier discovered that a version of the Feldbergring, which was right next to my hometown, was also made for AC. I looked it up and it was also made by Fat Alfie. You might be interested in that one. Apologies if you had already covered it. Greetings from Germany ✌️

Awesome video, and some pretty good driving, too! You don't do things by half, do you? Jumping straight in with the W125! As you said, the Maserati 250F also makes a great match for this track, allbeit not quite as spectacularly. Thanks again for taking the time to review my track. Seeing those opening shots actually made the hairs stand up on my arms, so great job!

@GPLaps

2 жыл бұрын

Always a pleasure David!

This track really feels like home to me. Probably because I spent a lot of time on Hessian country roads myself. What a delightful piece of recreated motor racing history!

Always love when people shine light on pre war racing if you ever find it always wonders how American racing was in the 30s like in the video game mafia

@raffriff42

2 жыл бұрын

Don't know the game _Mafia_ but it probably had Vanderbilt Cup racing, which took place mainly on public roads around New York City. Other pre-WW2 races were at Daytona (with stock cars racing up the beach and back), Pikes Peak, and of course, Indy. But most American auto races before WW2 -and still today- are on oval short tracks.

@Villoresi

2 жыл бұрын

@@raffriff42 The 1-mile ovals at Milwaukee, WI and Syracuse, NY also held notable AAA Indy/Champ Car races back then.

@wesleyamancio3686

2 жыл бұрын

@@raffriff42 Voiturette 1.300 class are close to indycar in 30s and we have de 1928-135 le mans mod for GTR2

@raffriff42

2 жыл бұрын

@@wesleyamancio3686 Voiturettes must have been great fun, it's too bad there isn't any(?) surviving video. I believe the American equivalent would be the USAC Midgets. Mario Andretti famously raced these cars in his younger days.

@raffriff42

2 жыл бұрын

@@Villoresi Absolutely!

Jake, you were born in the wrong time and the wrong country. You should have been a child of the 1920s in Europe, living through the pre-war and post-war Motorsport eras. Thank you for sharing your passion for these eras, and for showcasing the best historical and vintage content available by talented content creators like Fat Alfie.

Woah, goosebumps... I grew up about 15 minutes from Battenberg. My grandpa used to tell stories about the races there. Wish he was still around to see me race it virtually. :-)

Thanks! When I these these pre 70's racers I used to so much wonder what they looked like in action. Thanks so much for the historical recreation of lost eras

IMAGINE what it was like to drive those beasts back in the day with a leather cap for protection and sip of whisky for confidence

Awesome video! Battenberg also holds some more historical significance. It is not very far away from where I live now, and when I first drove through it, I didn't know anything about it, but here you go: the town is noted for giving its name to the Battenberg family, a morganatic branch of the ruling House of Hesse-Darmstadt, and through it, the name Mountbatten used by members of the British royal family, a literal translation of Battenberg.

I wish Europe looked like this again. Europe was once so damn beautiful, still the most beautiful place on earth

GPLaps when Fat Alfie releases new mod: "Oh dear, oh dear, Gorgeous!" also Yep we're goin' classic today boys, and I love it!

A FatAplfie track is like your favourite desert or drink, you can never get enough once you start! This track will definitely be going into my AC folder! Thank you for the great and informative vid!

The W125 was actually the turning point from the older, vintage era of car dynamics (stiff suspension, flexible chassis and 'nervous' handling that needed constant steering correction) to the classic era (softer suspension, stiffer chassis and a more understeer-biased car that could be drifted easily on the prodigious power with less in the way of short, sharp steering inputs).

One of my favorite eras of GP cars. I love the earlier "slower but squirrelly" cars from the Pre-war times. Would have been nice to see your (actual) hand work in the inlay instead of just the animated hands and wheel.

As someone frustrated with the W125 your handling felt like zen. Even with the physics update this machine has a mind of its own. Great storytelling btw!

Man, driving all those old racing cars always looks fun in these videos

What a gorgeous track and nice introduction! I didn't know the track existed, although I live only 2 hours away from it. It's on my bucket list for a real-world drive now :) The only unrealistic thing I spotted are the Weihenstephaner beer bottles - for the time period I would have expected something more local, not from far away southern Bavaria. Good beer though, recommended if you see it somewhere!

When it comes to historic tracks, FatAlfie.......is KING!

Thank you for producing these great videos. It would be fantastic be able to time travel back to see these great cars and drivers in action, on these historic tracks, but watching your streams, is as good close to being there as possible. I remember trying out Grand Prix Legends back in 2002/2003 on the Gold Coast in a monocoque simulator, ironically driving a similar year MB Silver Arrows car. Compared to driving an Australian V8 Supercar sim, I found the Mercedes more challenging, and therefore I had more fun.

Gplaps and fatAlfie what a perfect pairing. For the first lap I wasn't paying much attention to the racing. The datail in this track is insane. I feel sorry fat Alfie because he can't have a life beyond doing these tracks. It must take him 1000s of hours to finish. But wow do I appreciate his work. The very best that AC can be imo.

I didn't even need to start the video to hit the [Like] button. Yeah, the Auto Union seemed a more manageable machine here. I wonder, if you tried the 3 different cars, if you might get the best outright lap time using the Alfa Romeo 12C 36 actually. Yes, there should definitely be a lot of lap time to be found here. I think your 3rd lap, though you went to the external view before the Pit Board came up, was about a 5:17. Vintage AC ran 300 SLs here last weekend, and the fastest laps were in the 4:35s. So, with these cars being faster than 2.5-liter F1 cars from the '50s, in theory, there could well be close to a minute of improvement out there. And I'd agree, there's just something about this track. Deutschlandring is much more refined for a lot of it. Feldbergring is kind of in between in that department, but it's still more straightforward in various respects. This track certainly keeps you more on your toes with the road surface combined with the elevation change. I don't think there's anything at Feldberg quite as demanding on getting a precise rhythm as the dips and humps through those fast curves after you leave the village of Holzhausen. Bremgarten is quite similar in a lot of ways, but this is substantially longer on the lap. This will definitely help hold my attention for some time. But naturally, I'm curious what Fat-Alfie is going to really go in on next. Clermont-Ferrand would be a great one to get a more period-correct, detailed version of. I'd also love to see what progress he's made on Mugello Stradale.

@jcgabriel1569

2 жыл бұрын

And that makes it a bit weird. The W125 had De Dion rear axle, the Auto Union Type C had swing axles, which should make it the more oversteering car between the two. And while I'm not using AC. I think I have candidates for road courses. Two that springs to mind were Gavea and Montenero-Livorno...

@Villoresi

2 жыл бұрын

The tendency to oversteer might have been helpful at lower speeds. And the Auto Union has a longer wheelbase, which should help it at higher speeds. Of course, as you noted elsewhere, the Mercedes just has more power and torque. I'm not aware off-hand that Gary's mod has the 5-speed for the Auto Union that it actually had. Still, the Merc makes max power right at redline, whereas the Auto Union has a bit of margin there. And the Auto Union makes peak torque a bit lower, so I wonder if it can pull more readily, letting you grab the higher gear sooner, keeping the revs lower overall. Yes, Gavea and Montenero are on my radar and wish list. Those two, along with San Sebastian, Lobethal, and maybe 1930s Brno, would be a dream. I hope something comes of Mugello Stradale, though that might take a collaborative effort to get it across the finish line. A couple smaller ones (3.0-3.5 miles) David has mentioned are Cadours, France and Gedinne, Belgium. At the larger end, he's been looking at Inselsberg/Tabarz and Koenigswinter.

@jcgabriel1569

2 жыл бұрын

@@Villoresi the Auto Unions, I think, only really had a definite edge in roadholding. The oversteer they have could be more of a hindrance, coupled with heavy controls and steering kickback that really shows on slower tracks. The torquey engine might be one saving grace, as it could make gear hanging optional on some corners. I've watched a few footage of the Type C driven by Stuck at Gavea in 1937, and the car is fishtailing all over the place. No wonder he got beaten by Brivio and Pintacuda in their Alfas... And yeah, when it comes to handling, the Alfas probably had better handling than the Auto Unions. Bernd Rosemeyer tested a 12C-36 at Monza during the 1936 Italian GP practice. The test drive was done without the knowledge of the Auto Union team it seems. He commented about the easier handling and lighter steering and controls compared to the Auto Union... Other tracks I'd like to see were Nice, Geneva, Roosevelt raceway (preferably it it's twistier, dirt surfaced, 1936 configuration)

@Villoresi

2 жыл бұрын

@@jcgabriel1569 I think a good part of it at Gavea was the mixed weather conditions during the race. As it was, Stuck had Pole by 8.1 sec over Brivio, and took Fast Lap, too. Not to mention, Pintacuda beat Stuck by only 7.3 sec after 25 laps. As far as the more urban street circuits go, Torino (1935) looks like a fairly nice, flowing layout for its length. I definitely think Tre Fontane in Rome could be quite an interesting one. And for a city circuit, it really is surprisingly long on the lap. Different modders, but I know there's been work done on Tripoli and Miramas for Assetto Corsa.

@jcgabriel1569

Жыл бұрын

@@Villoresi Yeah, I remember that on the footage, some parts of the track was wet from rain. One very nice track that I remember is the Circuito del Garda, on the shores of Lake Garda, in Salò

Amazing!!! It was like being there, thank you!!! 🙂

This track is beautiful!!! And these old cars suited it perfectly, love this pre war racing😍

As always, an absolute joy to watch 👏🏁🍾

Your storytelling makes me feel warm and fuzzy.

@AlconburyBlues

Жыл бұрын

Yes he is very good at it. I even commented previously that he should get a job as an announcer in motorsport. He is very knowledgeable about all aspects of motorsport, and his recall speed is exactly what is needed to call a live race. Not sure he ever read that comment though.

Jack another Great video- i had tears in my eyes - a perfect GP Laps Video again

Love your videos, it's great to hear you give the history of these awesome machines and tracks, Thanks

That sure is the most beautiful track I've ever seen! A true joy to watch!

Love your videos, top notch in every sense! Best from Holland, Jake.

I love your videos. Editing, narration, historic context, everything is perfect. Definitely a labor of love. Even better when another masterpiece by Fat Alfie is the subject.

First time I've seen your page but I'll be sticking around. Loved the rundown of the history of the track. Absolutely awesome 👌

Another EXCELLENT video Sir! Racing history is fascinating!

That's siimply an 11. I'm downloading that track the very next time I'm on line. Thanks for that man. Your efforts are 100% appreciated. I midway through relocating my rig and fitting a new monitor mount. Bad design made getting the main brackets on an infuriatingly difficult task. I took a break and saw this vid. Now I'm inspired to get back into it. Cheers and thanks.

@simonolsen9995

2 жыл бұрын

Update. This is indisputably my most favourite AC car/track combo ever. Bloody brilliant. Thanks Jake. Edit. That 5.19 was good pace man! I'm about at the 10 laps completed point and I've got 15 seconds to find to match you. But the second watch of your run was very helpful. Goodonya.

brilliant video, thanks

Amazing video as always!

Ten thumbs up for this historical report . Great style and presentation. Much much fun 🤩 Thank you for such a beautiful entertainment!

Absolutely awesome!

Got instantly hooked! Awesome job!

Great vid as always, Jake

Nice one Jake my boy, what can I say except, MORE please. And oh yeah next time don't refuel at Rouen. 😁

FatAlfie just manages to surprise me every time! I never knew this tracke even existed and how utterly beautiful it and it's surroundings were. Instantly downloaded. Great video, the slow motion when the Auto-Union crashed in front of you looked fantastic.

Ive found i agree with you in vintage car racing, in pc2 I've been doing vintage Touring cars so much fun to throw around

What an incredible intro, bravo!

You kind Sir, are a Petrol Head Poet... Great Essay & great Track by Fat-Alfie... Kudos BTW AC is on Sale until 7th of July for 8 Bucks... complete Edition that is...

These cars give me a WWII fighter plane without wings vibe

I'd love to see him create the Solitude track. His work is amazing, and the Solitude Circuit is a piece of motorsport royalty both on motorcycles and in cars.

@w0033944

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed!

@mej6519

2 жыл бұрын

i think fat alphie is working on that as well as the original layout for mugello, yes the 60 odd km version.

@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X

2 жыл бұрын

@@mej6519 Amazing!

As much as you race, your hands/fingers must ache! Great video as always, keep em' coming.

I swear, every time I watch the latest video I say "these can't get any better" but they do. Fascinating look at a track I never knew existed and those car models looked beautiful. That tyre smoke tho' :D

Ah, Mountbatten. Love the Hessian hills because I grew up there and love your choice of cars for that Video.

ive only got to the start of the race and i had to stop and say - you paint a picture with words, keep on keeping on mate.

loved this

What a spectacle

07:24..........awesome!

How cool! Battenberg is just half an hour away from here. I never knew they had a circuit!

You produce truly awesome historical videos. Very talented at what you do and you never fail to fully entertain. Thank you for your effort. This track would be an excellent addition to your Historic rosd racing championship. Maybe a non championship exibition contest?

Dont ask gplaps for who he was driving around 1930 to 1945

Mitsos recently did a video of Battenberg in a current F1 car...INSANE!!!!

Much like the cake - this was sweeeet! Like sitting down to enjoy a classic episode of your favourite show. The tyre smoke was quirky, but another beautiful, challenging circuit - is it too late to add it to the HRRC calendar?

This looked so immersive it felt real! Dundrod vibes...

I wonder how many hours it takes to create a track like this. Crazy good quality.

@davidpemberton5995

2 жыл бұрын

About 1000 hours, on and off - depending on the length of the circuit

I know what I'm downloading after my camping trip. This will work great with the 1923 cars or even GTC Legends

More quality content 👌

Excellent video. Would like to see you do a weekly championship series in Assetto Corsa or Automobilista historic.

something, something, something battenberg. something, something, something cake joke.

Really good video from a really good channel! What is the background Music used in this video?

Another masterpiece Jake, you and Fat Alfie are the dream team for sure!

You know, we are due for a video about what would be a good suggested setup for something like this, perhaps broken out into budget brackets. It might be a once a year type of content for this channel, but I would just love to be part of this community and to drive such cars.

Nice

Amazing track. Back when this sport was intensely dangerous. Half of the best retired straight into a grave. That this track was considered too dangerous, even for the times, says something.

This is more entertaining than British GP qualifying

Wonderful recreation! How do they get the physics/handling of the cars right when they can’t drive them?

I'd love to see you do the old Brno circuit! AFAIK GPL has the 1948 version and AC the 1965. It's a blast!

Lowering the default rear tire pressure on the ai setup might fix the wheelspin

The W125 looks like it handles on asphalt like a RWD rally car handles on loose gravel.

POV: you are fangio racing jdm drivers from the future

It would be interesting to see this race done again in multiplayer mode!

@RemcoHitman

2 жыл бұрын

I'm game!

Fun fact. The 1938 rule change restricting engine capacity to 3.0 litres was only for supercharged cars. Unsupercharged cars were restricted to 4.5 litres. Obviously a little and a half isn't going to overcome the disadvantage of having and unsupercharged engine versus a supercharged one. They didn't care.

@jcgabriel1569

Жыл бұрын

The governing body thought that the extra litre and a half is enough to overcome the power deficit. The probably took their reasoning from the fact that the W125 produces 575bhp (and even up to around 650 if needed) from a 5.6 litre engine, the Auto Union makes around 520bhp from its 6 litre engine. So they probably thought that by halving the engine capacity, the 3 litre supercharged cars would end up having roughly half the power output as well, making the power deficit more manageable...

Just incredible! Are there historical records to attest to this amount of wheel spin? Next time you should you should pit Garlit’s Snake against Prudhomme’s Mongoose funny car over this course ;^)

@JCG-Alfamonza

4 ай бұрын

In 1958, Tony Brooks and Peter Collins demonstrated a W125 and W154 at Oulton Park. Brooks went out first in the W125 and later pulled into the pits to tell the mechanics of a vibration at the rear of the car. The mechanics sent him out again, telling him that the vibration was due to near constant wheelspin under power.

theres a update file for this car but i cant seem to find it, any links or help please?

Hello. Which settings did you use for aggressiveness? Thank you

What is the music for the track History?

uhh hey legends quick question, I'm having trouble getting the Auto Union Type C streamliner to work in Assetto (non streamline works fine). The session crashes and an error message pops up saying driver model may be missing whenever I try to use the former in practice. I seem to remember some relocation files for the non streamline type C but I think I forgot to download that particular folder in my excitement to try out heritage cars. I can't find the website so was hoping someone would be able to help a fella out in the replies with a link to the aforementioned webpage.

Good game. ✌✌✌ What is it called and where can I download it?

@goradkeselowski1076

Жыл бұрын

Asseto Corsa, steam

GP Man, how often do you actually crash in these races?

@GPLaps

Жыл бұрын

I crash a lot practicing for them! This was one of the hardest

Did somebody already mention that this region is one of the roots of the british royals? Battenberg = Mountbatten. They changed the name 1917 during WW 1.

Do you pay for these old tracks etc thru RaceDepartment?

@GPLaps

Жыл бұрын

they are available for free

@paulohalloran5790

Жыл бұрын

@@GPLaps Thanks mate.much appreciated

Wundebar!

The wheelspinning made me remember that the Mercedes supercharger was only engaged by flooring the throttle. Great video too, thanks

@jcgabriel1569

2 жыл бұрын

That's on the old SSK and SSKLs only. The reason for the W125's wheelspin is simply too much power.

chasing RUSS MEYER .......... lol.......

12:49 Was ist los mit der KI? So schlecht wäre ein Berd Rosemeyer nie gefahren! What's wrong with the AI? A Bernd Rosemeyer would not have driven so badly. But still, good job of track construction

@GPLaps

2 жыл бұрын

i wos ned, i hab nicht assetto corsa kodiert

@seitenwind7940

2 жыл бұрын

@@GPLaps ok