Keith Lee's whole thing is he's a big guy that isn't just a bodyguard. He's smart, fast, and well-spoken.

@Matchmaniawwe

2 жыл бұрын

Great that he's well spoken, but is that going to draw people to caring about him as a wrestler? Plenty of well spoken wrestlers out there who are able to get fans to care about their in ring work due to their engaging promos and ability to get people excited about them. Being thoughtful and well spoken are awesome traits for an office job or a public speaking gig

@UltimateIrishRebel

2 жыл бұрын

@@Matchmaniawwe people already care about him as a wrestler, he oozes personality every time he's on screen, imo

@CarbonGod666

2 жыл бұрын

@@Matchmaniawwe ok

@grimworldgaming928

2 жыл бұрын

And Vince hates the fact he was so well spoken or anyone who can actually stand up and speak for themselves smh

@grimworldgaming928

2 жыл бұрын

@@Matchmaniawwe lmao have you not seen him anywhere outside of the main roster? Do you not hear the crowds in AEW or even the crowds that were in NXT. Keith Lee is a certified, top dollar talent

Vince wanted Keith Lee to be the Savage Hulk, in reality Keith Lee is The Beast from X-Men. Soft Spoken, Highly Intelligent, incredibly Strong, surprisingly agile, and can be as dangerous as Logan if the right buttons are pushed

@andrewshandle

2 жыл бұрын

The problem with that is it's too nuanced for Vince, and by "nuanced" I mean it has like one level of depth to it. ;)

@mistersir4180

2 жыл бұрын

That was the best way to put that! 👏🏿

@precise213

2 жыл бұрын

very well said

@matthew66789

2 жыл бұрын

Best fucking analogy ever

@cocopuff7038

2 жыл бұрын

yes cannot say it better myself you nailed it, that exactly what Keith Lee is

I think Keith is like the wrestler version of Kingpin, but as a good guy. Smart, well phrased, focused, collected but when it becomes necessary he gets as violent as the next guy or more.

@BIGGHOMMIEAL

2 жыл бұрын

Perfectly explained lol

@royalty843

2 жыл бұрын

Or beast from X-Men minus the mutagen

@wilcee675

2 жыл бұрын

@Forbidden King 👍🏾

@ProjectH1980

2 жыл бұрын

@Forbidden King You got your lores mixed Bruh! Mutagen is TMNT, X-Men is the X-Gene.

@hhlt3214

2 жыл бұрын

Perfect analogy

*"You're too smart for your own good"* That sentence alone tells me that Vince's mind is still stuck in the past.

@williamdunlap78

2 жыл бұрын

Vince job practically is being a slave owner so yeah...

@Robby_C

2 жыл бұрын

It's not about being stuck in the past, it is about how things translate over the screen, and Lee's speaking cadence comes off as condescending and unnatural, which isn't a very good look for somebody being booked as a babyface.

@alexescutia4805

2 жыл бұрын

@@Robby_C wasn’t he a baby face on nxt? Didn’t watch back then correct me if I’m wrong

@Robby_C

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexescutia4805 yeah he was, but he was more over because of his agility and power, more then his promos. The whole shoulder tackling people into the crowd gimmick and the fact that he could hit dives clean is probably where Vince got the whole “Bearcat” vision.

@amitversion2

2 жыл бұрын

@@Robby_C Condescending and unnatural - exactly describes the impact of his vocal delivery. I think Vince's point was that it is hard to root for a condescending professor type.

When Keith Lee talks, it’s like a cross between Shakespeare and Barry White.

@koreybland525

2 жыл бұрын

I never thought of it that way but very true 😂

@gerardobarreragonzalez3902

2 жыл бұрын

After reading this comment and then hearing he's voice now I hear it

@Frost997

2 жыл бұрын

Ladybird, i, can't receiveth enow of thy loveth babe wench, i knoweth not, i knoweth not, i knoweth not wherefore i can't receiveth enow of thy loveth babe- Keith "Shakespear" Lee

@aliengranpa

2 жыл бұрын

That's surprisingly accurate!

@SirGenesis206

2 жыл бұрын

@@Frost997 this won’t get enough likes, but it’s appreciated

Jericho on AEW commentary: "SCREAMING!!" Jericho on podcast: "Soothing calmness"

@markell60

2 жыл бұрын

Right, the screaming is awful

@Jqkus

2 жыл бұрын

Two different settings. Of course he's going to be louder and more excitable while commentating on a wrestling show. This is a sit down interview. Not hard to figure out what fits where!

@killwalker

2 жыл бұрын

@@markell60 it's OK in small spurts. But continually throughout the show? Nope.

@rm2124

2 жыл бұрын

Jqkus no because the screaming is fucking annoying, stop dismissing valid criticism because you don’t agree with it

@Kenny_Industries.316

9 ай бұрын

​@@killwalkerhe is a heel

Keith Lee, the man of the hour. King of the ring. Intelligence and power.

It’s sound like Keith Lee got the Brodie Lee treatment

@shoWbitz

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone that's not Boring Overrated Reigns got the Brodie Lee treatment, unfortunately.

His voice and speech style is great! That only adds to the package

@shoWbitz

2 жыл бұрын

Facts.

@skyhighjaysly3623

2 жыл бұрын

@@shoWbitz ya i love the idea of a super well spoken intellectual fighter who could turn into the Hulk at any moment. What a cool psychology

@kamfisher1714

2 жыл бұрын

It doesn’t whatsoever

@kamfisher1714

2 жыл бұрын

@@shoWbitz He sounds like Frasier crane

@leemcnamara2560

2 жыл бұрын

I honestly think it’s what made me a fan of his. Almost smarmy and something almost 100% unique to him, vince is a fool for not embracing it

So yeah Keith seems to be a straight shooter when it comes to his character. And that’s why people say he was difficult backstage….wwe seems to be a petty place lol

@Quentista91

2 жыл бұрын

Seems 😂 They always been petty

@sangan3202

2 жыл бұрын

its just highschool over there

@therealMrA

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think any smart wrestling fan believed those reports

@Linator4

2 жыл бұрын

Lio, Mox, Bray, & Toni Storm all got labeled “difficult to work with.” It’s like you either take what they give you or they drag your name through the dirt. It’s pathetic.

@HCIbn

2 жыл бұрын

@@therealMrA you keep telling yourself that and how much is Vince paying for that comment you wrote?

Keith Lee's story is exactly what Jim Cornette theorized what was happening to Keith Lee. He was spot on. I'm glad Keith is back and I hope to see him stay at the TOP! MUCH LOVE KEITH!

@ABCRapster

2 жыл бұрын

Here after his match at Revolution and hoping that AEW treats him like he deserves to be treated.

@matthewgates4130

2 жыл бұрын

Corny Rulz !!!

@louispb6387

2 жыл бұрын

Corny is the best, his mind is unmatched

@whatever85x

2 жыл бұрын

@@louispb6387 dont take much to fake play when a comic book fan

@whatever85x

2 жыл бұрын

@@matthewgates4130 bother for most to say no

Keith lee is the real deal 🙌

I still remember how much of a pop this dude had in NXT. Him running through Adam cole were legendary gifs. Wwe ruined him when they changed his entrance music. That bask in his glory theme was sick. Keith Lee vs Dijakovich was a big man clinic. Keith Lee vs Walter would’ve been Wreslemania worthy.

“You’re too smart for your own good!” Absolutely ridiculous!

@killemsoftly15

2 жыл бұрын

Very condescending as well.

@ajmurtagh27

2 жыл бұрын

He was talking in terms of the character.

@kamfisher1714

2 жыл бұрын

@@ajmurtagh27 Don’t try to tell smarks anything, they don’t know anything.

@marcoalvarado82

2 жыл бұрын

Mans is boring to listen to

@mageside

2 жыл бұрын

@@kamfisher1714 That's rich considering Vince himself doesn't know how to produce a good can't miss wrestling show anymore, he like every other business in north america is more concerned with networking themselves rather than focusing on producing good content. He's more concerned with business deals than he is with pumping out the same fucking match week in week out and only giving one tidbit of news that is worth reporting (INTENTIONALLY produced from him, not like a botch or someone forgetting a spot, something like Reigns and Lesnar Promos) But no please enlighten me seeing how you actually know more about Keith Lee because you're not a "SMARK".

Keith Lee is like The Beast from X-Men. He is intelligent and powerful at the same time.

I can listen to Keith Lee read the phone book.

I am so glad and happy Keith Lee is here and back where he belongs. I wish him success and more awesome matches. Great job AEW 🙏🙏💜💜💯💯😊😊

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@blackjr4180

2 жыл бұрын

Be part of a podcast

@thepalatrpro

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao!

Vince should have just let him be him. How do you not see the potential in a man whos big like he is, but isn't just a hulking, angry monster? I liked how he was. He was a well spoken but agile, hard hitting big man. Even with the bear cat. Don't just come to him just because you think he needs something. Heck at least plan out the gimmick before hand. What on earth was the "Bearcat" gimmick aside from Lee growling? I felt so bad for Lee not getting what he deserved on the main roster. My favorite guy within NXT. I actually went to NXT Takeover Portland and just thought he had such a prescience. I hope AEW will utilize him properly. He deserves to be on top.

@kamfisher1714

2 жыл бұрын

Aew already ruined him

@IronTonyStark

2 жыл бұрын

Bearcat was very clearly supposed to be a mindset, a switch that flipped in the mind of Keith Lee. Not an intricate story but a new status quo presentation going forward. Sort like how Mark Henry went from friendly happy-go-lucky Mark Henry to heel Mark Henry in early 2011 to angry, scary, intense Hall of Pain Mark Henry by mid 2011 due to a switch clicking in tje mid of Mark Henry and channeling that anger and aggression full time on camera going forward. No doubt a similar ibte tin was in mind for Keith Lee and no doubt Vince had high hopes for Keith Lee otherwise wouldn't have left gorilla mid broadcast to sit down and communicate his vision for the mindset and presentation of on-camera Keith Lee.

@djinsanity3575

2 жыл бұрын

@@kamfisher1714 how so?

I could be way the Hell off about what he is like IRL, but Mr. Lee just doesn't intimidate me. Oh sure, I wouldn't stand a chance in Hell against him in the physicality department but he has a very friendly visage... like a "gentle giant" a monster, but a nice one. I'd give him a friendly hug.

@Yunglex313

2 жыл бұрын

Until you pissed him off. Then he becomes this beast who speaks very intimidating vernacular. Like his feud with Roderick Strong made him look awesome.

@pieceofgosa

2 жыл бұрын

Please look up the word "dissonance" then come back when you've managed to understand why we might use that concept while presenting a character.

@painvillegaming4119

2 жыл бұрын

Keith looks like a big cinnamonbun in all honesty

As a black male born and raised in the south, "you're too smart for your own good" is something I've heard way too much.

@RCMproductions

2 жыл бұрын

That's racist b.s. and I'm sorry you have to deal with that. So messed up.

@HCIbn

2 жыл бұрын

That's white people for you. No black person should never move to the south period.

@JaySeamus

2 жыл бұрын

Bruh^

@Cottam89

2 жыл бұрын

🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

@HartmanHovic

Жыл бұрын

As a white Male born in the north its something I hear many times too. Dont be a victim.

Every monster doesn't have to sound the same way. He might not be a Bear 🐻 a 🦁 Lion with this roar of a sound. He can be himself. A monster of a wrestler, with a poetic voice. I'll figure out a name for you. Mr. Poetic Justice...😇

@BigHank75

2 жыл бұрын

Black monster to be exact.

Thanks to Kieth Lee. This is right. If WWE wanted the wrestlers to do the character well, atleast give them a good story. A story that these wrestler can showcase their talent. Like what Triple H is building in NXT before they destroy it.

@mageside

2 жыл бұрын

Look at how well Roode did in NXT before arriving on SDLive, he had a character, he a heel but he was liked for his in ring ability and of course that song, as soon as he arrived onto SDLive he turned face and was expected to be a needlemover based on his song alone, sure that's fine if you're someone who tunes into to both SDLive and NXT, but if you're a jackass and only SDLive you just see him spring up outta nowhere without explanation and all he has to go off of is his song, hell it speaks volumes that he was better handled in WWE 2K19's My Career mode than he ever was under Vince's watch.

I still remember when people thought the bearcat thing was a tribute to an old wrestler, but it turns out it wasn't the case.

Keith Lee is the real life human version of Beast from X-Men. Powerful, agile, and intelligent.

@2Xboti

2 жыл бұрын

Ooh that's a good analogy...Beast is an amazing character, powerful in both mind and body

Keith entire deal is that he elevates every promotion he's in and every title he holds, and he does that every single time. I am excited to see him hold the TNT title in like 8 months

@ChuckGibbs39

Жыл бұрын

Didn't age well, being wasted in AEW as well

@jeice2226

Жыл бұрын

​@@ChuckGibbs39 tag belts, genius

@ChuckGibbs39

Жыл бұрын

@@jeice2226 he’s doing nothing buddy

@xavierwilliams2228

7 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 this aged well

I think I can agree with everyone when Keith Lee said he hated the whole "bearcat" gimmick

He fired Braun and then wanted Keith to be Braun lmfao

@alexescutia4805

2 жыл бұрын

Still amazed they let braun go

@rahamanawelenje9955

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexescutia4805 Ik rite 🤦🏾‍♂️

@UMANGPLAYS

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnnychopping3655 Omos will never be new Braun

"You are too smart for your own good". Basically saying black guy needs to be savage and hulky. Classic Vince.

@Bang0ut824

2 жыл бұрын

I’m black and I don’t think he meant it that way lol. New day aren’t savage and hulky especially Big E, that’s the thing I hated about his reign he didn’t feel like a believable champion

Chris Jericho you’re my hero, I hope to share a wrestling ring with you one day🤞🏻💯

I understand what Lee was talking about regarding being intense. Without a reason, what's the point? Also, what Vince McMahon said about Lee's diction makes no damn sense. Lee played college football FFS! I don't know how he sounds too smart for his own good.

Keith Lee is awesome and I don't fully understand how WWE failed him , simply let him be himself and turn it up to 11 !!

So excited for Limitless Keith Lee to show out! His first few AEW outings have been great thus far.

WWE could have used him as a heel character that wore a suit and was intelligent and looked down on everyone else but could back it up in the ring. Use the guy's intelligence to get the most out of him.

Keith Lee's gimmick is simple. Let him be the freak of nature he is. Confident, strong with a deliberate slightly slower pace & then just bursts of explosions with high flying moves that 99 percent of the world or men his size can't do. First match of his I watched was when he fought Brian Cage, go back & watch that match its freaking epic both of them trying to top each other's ridiculous moves!

@IASP17

2 жыл бұрын

"high flying moves that 99 percent of the world or men his size can't do" while that is true its not special anymore. doesnt matter what size he is. everybody is doing all sorts of high flying moves these days. its ridiculous. I would rather see Keith be aggressive in the ring and show his power. I dont really care if he can do a moonsault or whatever.

He was limitless, but Vince tried to limit him.

@kamfisher1714

2 жыл бұрын

Aew will do the same

@00DeadZ

2 жыл бұрын

His limit was promo's 🤣

Hey man you are amazing Chris Jericho 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

Love keith Lee wish they could’ve figured it out but we’ll see what AEW has in store for him

Love Keith Lee and good for him

The avatar change is great Chris! Works so well! 👍

I been watching wrestling for 43 years, I never saw a Guy that looks like Keith, wrestle and talk likes Keith, how can it not get over

Vince on Pat McAfee: I give the people what they want and listen to them. Also Vince: Let's call him Bear Cat Lee ,🤣🤣🤣

@VinnyLogz

2 жыл бұрын

Also Vince, the reason why pro wrestling exists

@VinnyLogz

2 жыл бұрын

Also literally impossible to ALWAYS give the fickle, always complaining, always offended, cry baby public what they want.

@scottprice5978

2 жыл бұрын

Total lies by Vince McMahon as per usual he dosent care what fans want

@VinnyLogz

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottprice5978 lmao, if you don’t think he cares what fans want, you are being shortsighted. He just can’t give fans everything they want all the time , bc firstly, fans are fickle and will still whine and complain when when they do get get what they want, and secondly ummm, running a business isn’t as simple as just giving everyone what they want how they want it. I’d think a global and public company, that puts on the TWO longest weekly tv shows in history, and they are live, have a bit more to consider then just oh let’s do what everyone in twitter wants this week.

@Tcrror

2 жыл бұрын

@@VinnyLogz Why are you such a gross shill for VINCE, of all people?? YOU are the one that's short sighted. And YIKES! If that's what you think about people that have different opinions than you, I just don't know what to tell you. You don't owe anything to Vince. He DOES NOT care about the fans, and he doesn't care about you. If you were moved by that interview, just know that it was all a lie.

Loved this clip and it makes sense how Vince thinks... Good to Keith gets to be himself

1:43 translation: "u sound too educated and sophisticated for a black performer. I need more stereotypes please and thank you" smh 🤦🏾‍♂️

@CriticalGamingChannel

2 жыл бұрын

Glad I'm not the only one who caught that.

@goatsquadtv8786

2 жыл бұрын

Mcmahon wants wrestlers to be method actors,that's not what pro wrestling is about yes u play a character however the character needs too suit u,if Mcmahon says something as stupid as u sound too educated then it tells where his brain is at. Lee will be fine in Aew

I stopped watching full WWE shows since 2013 ish but whenever i did watch some i was really convinced that Keith would be a great mid cart superstar. Kinda like R-Truth and Big-E

@RespectMyNerdz

2 жыл бұрын

Big E is big time baby he’s a baby face

@23bitchris60

2 жыл бұрын

R truth? Mid card? Are you joking lol

@dark3rthanshadows

11 ай бұрын

ngl i could see him getting a big title like watching NXT at the time he was amazing. big guy but most of his movesets were dexterious, and very charismatic the way he talked.

It’s a good thing Keith Lee’s got the chance to shine in AEW. At the same time, I selfishly think he should’ve been a top player in WWE if Vince hadn’t dropped the ball on him. Being too smart for his own good, that’s absolute Vinnie Mac BS. I wish that most released talent had the chance to deliver in the main roster like they did in the Black and Gold NXT.

I havent watched wrestling in 20+ years and randomly saw Keith Lee on an AEW show and within one second I said "this dude is an absolute superstar". Cant believe WWE couldnt see that - just let him be him - j

In wwe I remember they would have an awesome camera shot of him in NXT i remmber the zoom in camera before he would toss said wrestler was excellent and highlighted him very very well

As soon as you heard Lee's Bearcat "roar" before his last WWE match, you knew this gimmick was never supposed to make it past the cutting room floor.

You should be posted the full podcast with videos similar to the comedians would do it would be awesome even if it’s like in a locker room backstage with the boys

Bro... How did this guy not make it in WWE... He has everything... EVERYTHING. The size, the skill, his talking style makes him standout... This guy should have been a shoe in... So much potential....

@Kancerru

Жыл бұрын

He talks like a muppet.

@dark3rthanshadows

11 ай бұрын

the stupid writting team+ vince wanted to make a dumb ass character "Beatcat" changed everything about it, his theme,look etc etc. They wanted a generic big monster guy

@Kancerru

11 ай бұрын

@@dark3rthanshadows Yeah and he's setting the world on fire now that he's free from Vince, right?

...💯... ...as a lifelong WWE fan, this is probably the most depressing "era" in the company's history...mainly because of all these notable releases...and the most likely realization that those big names will probably NEVER come back even after enough time has passed...☹️ ...all because of Vince's fragile ego and jealousy over what NXT became...forgetting that it's success put money on his pockets and HHH's faith in the talent paid off better than Vince's in the last 50 years combined...

It's a shame for Keith because he is so unique it's hard for people to pidgonhole him in a very pidgonhole filled business. In a Corney fan but he keeps going on about this as well and I think that the fact he is a big well spoken dude makes him stand out

Keith Lee should win the TNT Title at some point or even contend for the AEW World Title but the fun part about AEW is that you don’t need a World Title to make you important just look at MJF and Andrade El Idolo and Matt Hardy.These guys have longevity and are a legitimate threat to any title reign.

Imagine thinking someone sounding smart is a bad thing.

@tj2nasty4ya83

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine stone cold sounding like Keith Lee u think it would've worked lol

@rdu239

2 жыл бұрын

@@tj2nasty4ya83 Imagine The Rock sounding like Fraiser Crane

Loved him so much on NXT he becoming NXT north America and NXT double champ was AMAZING

I have no idea why VKM thought the younger viewers wouldn't absolutely adore this guy. He's the perfect example of a loveable giant kids would be starry-eyed about imho.

I never saw any of his WWE work, but I really like him in AEW. I just hope gets used well. So far he's had an awesome debut, but after that it hasn't been too great. Now he's been paired with Shane Strickland though, and I think that could be very interesting.

Playing who you really are is the best case scenario. That’s why Jericho is so great at playing the old guy who wants to hog all the spotlight and doesn’t want to let it go . The old vet who holds the young guys down . Hopefully the goat Hulk doesn’t sue him for gimmick infringement.

It was working on NXT. After he beat Adam Cole for the Title they could have just let him stay there and hold the NXT title for at least a year if not more. Glad he is back wrestling.

I can understand Vince's thought process. *Big guys do Big things.* However, Keith Lee does so much more and is a world champion calibre wrestler.

100%, the best gimmick is when the wreslter include their own personality to the characters. Except certain characters like Undertaker, Kane, etc. They work well including themselves irl to their persona i mean look at Brodie Lee AEW, Seth Rollins Messiah, Roman Tribal chief, etc. They worked so well.

Talk is Jericho Raw is Jericho AEW is Jericho Site is Jericho 😂😂😂♥

@chrisford7909

2 жыл бұрын

Earth is Jericho!!!!

@ImYouWaffle

2 жыл бұрын

Universe is jericho

@da0701

2 жыл бұрын

Afterlife is Jericho

I think a great character for Keith Lee would one that looks like KingPin from Micheal Clark Duncan in Daredevil. Walking with that cigar in his mouth kicking butt

"Too smart for your own good". Just...no lol. It's never good to say that.

1:42 oh that doesn't sound racist at all. 🙃

@shoWbitz

2 жыл бұрын

Vintage VKM!

That intelligence is what helps seperate Keith from the crowd.. That and freakish athleticism! I'm glad WWE put eyes on him but im happier he is going on to express himself as LIMITLESS Keith Lee once more

I want to see Keith Lee turn heel on the mic. He could be very sinister.

@thengakola

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. He exhudes a Jake The Snake Roberts type understated charisma on the mic.

@The__Gent

2 жыл бұрын

@@thengakola Indeed

Judging by this story, I think Vince wanted Keith to be more of a Mark Henry type character. I get what Vince meant when he said Keith sounded too intelligent (at least for what Vince wanted from him), but I don’t understand why he wanted to change it in the first place

@aaronfleming4176

11 ай бұрын

Yep that's what I was thinking

Keith Lee is a talented Guy

Glad he found another way to do what he loves

@ChrisJericho , your description for the podcast website is wrong.. it's webisjericho .. but it's written talkisjericho and it won't redirect.

I love the way Keith Lee talks its so different. Because if you didn't know him just from appearance you'd think he's just another big man gonna do a big man shouting promo ungabunga man. But no showing how well spoken intellectual he is it adds a layer to his personality and character. That this guy isn't just a big man, that he's well versed smart which is terrible for his opponent because Lee can plan and stratagise knowing how to use all his tools and when.

4:37 I say this all the time while watching NXT 2.0

it will be interesting

Keith Lee should have been a Kingpin type villain in the WWE. I’d have loved to see him as the head of his own faction. People are sick of big guys constantly being a clone of Lesnar, Lashley, Henry etc.

He meant dont end a heated threat promo with ‘and I…will be THERE’, like Lanny poffo. have fun being jobbed out to Kenny omega in five months. Can’t wait to play you in both video games

WWE, Impact, AEW, NJPW, AAA or NWA what do you like more ?

@Ra18SJ

2 жыл бұрын

All of wrestling, whenever there's a good product then I like it.

@shahrozj6911

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ra18SJ unfortunately there's very few amount of good product

@ImYouWaffle

2 жыл бұрын

AEW,NJPW,and Impact

I wanted to listen to the entire podcast. But the link ain't working for me.

Imo Keith Lee is a future great

He was perfectly used/booked while he was in NXT his match with Dominic dyjacovic was a instant classic 👌 . Hunter and hbk know how to create a well established storyline and match in NXT . But once these successful guys like Keith Lee and others go to the main roster they get treated pretty poorly and are forced into a gimmick that doesn't fit there personality. Granted Lee did have a few good matches and moments one being his win over randy at the payback ppv . But Im certain Keith Lee will find major success in another wrestling company

What a shame. Keith is such a unique guy in wrestling. Highly intelligent and thoughtful combined with spectacular strength, size and agility. Why would anyone ever waste that by trying him to be something he's not?

I think Keith Lee should take on like that Hulk/Banner smart calm Hulk persona. He wears a robe......smokes a pipe......comes out very dignified.....talks overly "I graduated top of my class" blah blah but gives the character a tick where he goes from gentle giant to athletic monster. Even adjust his move set so each side of the character shines. Like combining both sides of what the Alpha Academy currently are but in on man because Keith Lee has that range and that much ability

Wow I'm fairly new to Keith Lee , haven't seen a ton of his interviews, but the first thing the caught my attention. In this clip was how he prese ts himself how he talks. He comes off as a very smart humble guy similar to a Glen Jacobs or Mark Henry. And to hear that THAT was the thing against him is just mind-blowing lol. I enjoy intelligent wrestlers. The ones that have to come off as big angry blockheads makes me feel like my own intelligence is insulted

@corycybulski961

2 жыл бұрын

Bushwhackers are awesome tho 🤣

I understand what Vince was saying. It's kinda like ember moon as well... His voice makes him less intimidating during promos

I don't think I can defend the way Keith's run ended in WWE, but while I can't *defend* it, I can *understand* it now. Vinny wanted something Keith couldn't give, and that sucks, there can be an argument about how he wasn't a good fit due to his inability to adapt, but maybe the PLANS could've changed to adapt to Keith's style instead, I mean, the dude is really good, I don't think it would've been a tall task to find at very least a halfway point. truly a missed opportunity for WWE

@Tenchigumi

2 жыл бұрын

The thing about Vince is that he will rarely be satisfied with a gimmick unless he feels like he played some part in its creation, and the rare times that he does tolerate independently creative wrestlers, it doesn't last for long and they either conform or get released. So you're absolutely right that success in the WWE mostly coming down to being adaptable (or more accurately, malleable) to Vince's whims, and when WWE was the only real game in town, wrestlers were creatively shackled if they wanted the big bucks. However, with AEW that's less of an issue, and many wrestlers can finally flourish with their own gimmicks, and WWE's missed opportunities are no longer complete losses for the fans.

@diskeyes

2 жыл бұрын

No the argument should be made that Vince can’t adapt to his talent? Why try to change someone’s entire personality instead of lean into it.

@40088922

2 жыл бұрын

@@diskeyes that's what I said afterwards, maybe the plans could've changed, with how good Keith is, it wouldn't be absurd to just... find something better for him

@diskeyes

2 жыл бұрын

@@40088922 you literally say there’s an argument to be made that he couldn’t adapt which is wrong.

@40088922

2 жыл бұрын

@@diskeyes it's not wrong, Keith said it himself in this very video he couldn't adapt (in this case, Vince asked for something he couldn't give, but it's the same thing). the subtext of this part of my statement was whether or not it was fair, which it really isn't (though right, nonetheless), a compromised should've been reached because Keith IS worth the effort

Always felt like Keith could be like WWE's own version of Daniel Cormier.

I got a dream match. It's Jericho redoing his 1001 submissions gag. So it's a ten minute match with le champion, 2 minutes in he gets the walls locked in. And than it's just 8 minutes of Jericho damanding the guy tap . Through commercial breaks and all. People come in the ring and ask the guy tap. Just 8 minutes of that long hair guy with the big shades just screaming.

Sir Keith Lee and his Shakespearian's like speech.

That's the thing Vince needs to understand it doesn't matter if he doesn't get it or he's not a fan we understand and we are fans and it's for us not just him

“Bearcat” thing was total bullshit His promos are a little bit weak but as a big guy The things he does in ring that’s entertaining And wwe telling him do things that was not him and can’t do it That’s why I wanted him to leave wwe

@shoWbitz

2 жыл бұрын

Wwe is total bullsh*t, for starters.

Not all big guys should portray as yelling monsters , Keith Lee character is a pleasant change to that

Jericho saying BEARCAT is just too funny to me

I got Keith Lee running his own stable "LimitLess Soldiers"

So adamant on talking like Niles Crane

They are doing the same shit with Damien Priest, he's been a heel in ROH so it would probably work for him.

Keith Lee is my Fav no.1 Wrestler I have completely quit WWE for AEW

Should have shown him some Kesley Grammar esque Incredible Hulk or Wilson Fisk from Punisher, just so he could give him something he could understand.

Jericho’s reaction a pretty boy is priceless 😂😂

Chris Jericho if you see this please vouche for me for Tk Book a Falls CountAnywhere No DQ No Rope Breaks Warlow vs Keith Lee vs Powerhouse Hobbs I have checked there weights so maybe incorporate a LSM Last Man Standing