The speed limit is 30. I live less than 20 minutes from dragon. I pay taxes in the county. I try to avoid the racers by choosing times to use my camper van (also I pull off for passing when I can). I’ve had racers try to run me off road! Chill out man!! Some people (idiots) try to make a racetrack out of it and cannot tolerate it’s use by anybody else. The Cherokee Indians routed the trail. I’m thankful for their contribution. So enjoy the scenery. Don’t like to share? Don’t come!

@johnrenterprises2604

Жыл бұрын

A big AMEN!

@thelake56

Жыл бұрын

Agree with Henry!!!

@ericwilson178

Жыл бұрын

The speed limit is only 30mph if they catch you. :) I feel the need for speed.

@ericwilson178

Жыл бұрын

Btw.... US Hwy 129 is a national highway. Your county taxes don't contribute anything towards maintaining a national highway. All of us pay for that.

@1107jordanlego

Жыл бұрын

im sure the hundreds of thousands of visitors every year pay much more in taxes than you. they are vital for you economy

It should be noted that US 129 is a road that is used by the people who live there. It's not a racetrack. It's a normal route that locals use to get around. Just because you come from another state to ride the Dragon and have to go slow is not their problem.

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

Thanks great info!!

First of those 10 rules is don’t be a couple of douche bags.

@ericwilson178

Жыл бұрын

At what point were they "douche bags"? You might want to look in the mirror next time.

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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Love the entitled attitude of the sport bike riders. It’s a public US Highway. Those that think they should be able to go as fast as they want are just as bad as the slowpokes. “I only want to go 40 or 45…I wanna go the speed limit”. Speed limit is 30.

@BackRoadzRider

8 ай бұрын

That only works if a person knows numbers and can read.

@robertwilliams450

7 ай бұрын

It's your ride, go your own pace and be safe😊

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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The cars and the HD may have been slow but you and Mr Horn are the only ones who showed their ass.

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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It’s first and last point A to B. It is a bit uncivil watching this and not feeling the commentator feels this road was made for them to ride exactly as desired, which does not include others. Pull off and if you can’t take it, your opinion is like mine, everyone has one. But why post a video of ignorance? Country roads in the hills are built for transportation.

@chrissyfowler3613

Жыл бұрын

Sorry but this road is a major entertainment draw for the area. Many locals probably make their living off the tourism that the Tail of the Dragon brings in

@jamesadams2334

Жыл бұрын

@@chrissyfowler3613 Highways are NOT entertainment.

@Jody-xd1vs

Жыл бұрын

The speed limit on the tail is 35. At what point was the car going excessively slow. Maybe the car was enjoying the road. I believe this rider is arrogant. Doesn't help the motorcycle community get a better reputation.

@seanmurphy637

Жыл бұрын

There's this thing called consideration. Yes, the cage driver does have the right to drive at any legal speed, but if they see traffic building up behind them then they could easily pull over for literally a few seconds to let it pass. Especially since the cager was obviously not in a hurry. It's called consideration for fellow road users.

@og190

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you this clown gives the motorcycle community a bad name posting videos of arrogant rants over other drivers driving lawfully

"absolutely absurd man"..............yes,.........yes you are 🤣🤣

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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You should have made them close the road off just for you . What are them other people thinking driving like that? It’s almost like they we’re trying to enjoy the views or something! Man the nerve of some people.

@GrumbleB

Жыл бұрын

You wanna enjoy the view ..... Then pull over and get a good look . Others shouldn't have to sit behind you doing less then the speed limit ....

@boomerzoomer3172

Жыл бұрын

That Honda should’ve pulled over it’s common knowledge on this road to pull over to let faster cars pass

@saturnkingofmushrooms7821

Жыл бұрын

@@GrumbleB the limit was 30, dickcheese here wanted to go 40 and stated honking at the people going the speed limit

@GrumbleB

Жыл бұрын

@@saturnkingofmushrooms7821 you need to get your eyes checked sonny boy.....

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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After bitching about those in your way … once clear of them your speed was not much more? Dude, chill!

@johnstowe3267

Жыл бұрын

That’s why they caught up to them twice 😂…they were holding up traffic and should have pulled over…how many times have you slayed the dragon? 😂😂😂

@RoadKing05FLHR

Жыл бұрын

​@@johnstowe3267 wrong. Those wanting to speed through there need to pull over. How do you expect people to pull over for you so they can attempt to get back on the road with people flying around curves? How many different people should they pull over for to make it 11 miles down the road? Is that how you think people drive on a racetrack? The idiots on that road are not waiting for people to reach a pull out. Nobody is required to use a pull out.

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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@SolarEclips86

Ай бұрын

​@@RoadKing05FLHRcoming from the person passing people on it lmao 🤣 stfu

Been on the Dragon several times. A lovely mountain curvy ride. I was on a “big cruiser” and it was effortless. I guess you ?think you own the Dragon….? It’s one thing to ride like an idiot. It’s quite another to post a video of it on KZread.

@redrider0151

Жыл бұрын

You will have to tell me at what point he was riding like an idiot??? He didnt pass on a double yellow, he didnt buzz them....he showed FAR MORE restraint than pretty much ANY rider I ride with.....jsut because he talks in his helmet about the fact that the people in the van were intentionally going as slow as possible doesnt make his riding and different....the van was a bunch of dicks

Dang! You’re riding a motorcycle on the Dragon, and complaining the whole time. You missed a wonderful ride.

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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Why would they pull over for tourers in Levis going 10mph faster? Grow some and go by!

Speed limit is 30 up there. The "sad" memorial you saw was just one of many from riders like you. It's not a carnival ride. You didn't pay admission. You clearly don't care enough to even control your vehicle. On or over the double yellows. Too bad you didn't see more oncoming traffic to remind you what lane is yours. It's a great thing that you don't think you're coming back anytime soon. Glad your buddies audio was dropping out if he sounds at all like you. You give motorcyclists a bad name.

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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I ride, but we do not own this road.

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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This is the only problem with the route. Too many people think it's a racetrack and they don't even know how a racetrack works. You do not own the road. People are not required to pull over for you to pass. You could just pull over and wait a while. I'm sure you would not like people passing you in a blind curve. There are other idiots coming the opposite way.

@jdpalmer1

Жыл бұрын

But if you're obviously holding up traffic you need to use the pull off for a few seconds. Unless your ego is too fragile.

@RoadKing05FLHR

Жыл бұрын

@@jdpalmer1 there are a lot of people racing on the road. It's not safe to enter the roadway. It's only 11 miles, a person should be able to go 11 miles without pulling over for reckless people. If a person did pull over then then will find more people coming behind them again. It makes no sense at all. Those wanting to race are the ones that need to use pull outs. It's the people racing that create a problem. It's their problem.

@jdpalmer1

Жыл бұрын

@@RoadKing05FLHR I don't want to race, I just don't want to get stuck behind someone that can't even go the speed limit. Pull over and there will be no problem getting back on as soon as the group of people stacked up behind you are past.

@RoadKing05FLHR

Жыл бұрын

@@jdpalmer1 or you could just pass or pull over

@jdpalmer1

Жыл бұрын

@@RoadKing05FLHR So your ego won't allow you to let anyone pass you? Too sad.

Dang it man, it looks like you got all upset about following the van when you maybe should have just been enjoying the ride.

@murrelldooms7982

Жыл бұрын

The driver of the vehicle that you are behind has every right to be there. I f don't like following people you need to pull over and quit pushing. The road is not yours. Rode for over 25 years and never seen such JERK.

@logut80

9 ай бұрын

Hard to enjoy when you're going so slow you almost fall over

@garyallen6486

9 ай бұрын

What a cow! So sorry you had to go 10mph under the limit most of the way- and then SHE got upset with YOU! People can be such asses…

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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no one has to get out of your way! they have just as much right to be there you are rude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have ridden that road plenty sometimes fast and sometimes get behind a slow person site seeing you give motor cycle riders a bad name

@redrider0151

Жыл бұрын

WRONG!!! When you are holding up multiple vehicles you are supposed to use the pulloffs to allow them to pass....THAST WHAT THEY WERE BUILT FOR

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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"i'd like to overtake them, but they might try to run me off the road" LOL. Maybe I'll just sit behind them for 10 miles beeping my horn and flashing my lights....I'm starting to understand why car drivers hate us. Nice riding champ.

@boomerzoomer3172

Жыл бұрын

Even if he wanted to pass you really can’t cross the double yellow on TOD…just curious have you been on TOD?

@chrissyfowler3613

Жыл бұрын

Where is the video of you riding TOD 😂

@johnstowe3267

Жыл бұрын

Troll

@cphillips3513

Жыл бұрын

@@chrissyfowler3613 Sorry, bit confused, would you like a vid of me riding the dragon, or a vid of me sitting behind a mini van and beeping my horn and flashing my lights at a family out on a fun family drive? 🤡

@jamesadams2334

Жыл бұрын

@@cphillips3513 no reason to flashlights and beep horns. Just ride normal!

This Guy thinks he owns the road I'd be going slower

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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Many of us that live in this dragon area truly dislike the entitled dragon slayers that invade this place.

@charlespflanze9651

Жыл бұрын

Back in the 70's I used to ride the Dragon all the time, nobody was there and the rider had the feeling of being in a near primeval wilderness. I got quite fast on the road and had it memorized, I could ride it safely but I worked my way up to it. Some of the curves were reverse banked and there were places the road was in poor condition. I also rode the Cherohala highway a bit while it was under construction. All these areas were quiet and very scenic. I hate these places now and I'd never go back. It's all been destroyed, I'd get more of a wilderness experience in NYC Central Park than I would on the Dragon. I'm hoping that a horrific economic catastrophe will put an end to *all* tourist traffic in these areas and that peace and quiet will someday return. Back when I was riding I was going solo and cell phones didn't exist. Back in those days you play road racer in the mountains and fly off down a hillside at high speed - it might be the very last thing you do. Thanks guys, you've all trashed the place beyond recognition, it's all gone, all destroyed. TVA sure did help by destroying the wonderfully scenic Little Tennessee River below Chilhowee Dam. It's all an ugly mud hole now in fall and winter. In the early 70's this entire area looked like something out of a movie, scenery so wild and magnificent that it belonged on postcards. To heck with each and every one of you responsible for destroying these unique areas. May millions of fleas infest yer armpits! Same goes for everybody that ruined Wear's Valley. I used to ride my CB450 in that area a very long time ago when it was all small farms and a tiny little community place with a church, a store/gas station, a few other commercial buildings, and that was it. A neat ride with sharp curves, hills, spectacular scenery, and hardly any traffic. Today the entire place has been trashed beyond recognition with tourist garbage and "mountain homes" everywhere. And now every few years the place experiences big firestorms that burn down a lot of that crap, but they'll build it right back. Only a grinding economic calamity and decades long depression will return all of this back to where it used to be.

@GrumbleB

Жыл бұрын

😆.... you one of the assholes going 5 under the speed limit aren't you..?

@PRR4800

Жыл бұрын

@@GrumbleB lmao Have a good day and stay safe

@raytycker1656

Жыл бұрын

I would introduce this horn blowing clown to my rear bumper.

@GrumbleB

Жыл бұрын

@@raytycker1656 you're so tuff 😂. Probably gotta Biden sticker on that bumper too...

Whaaa whaaa” get a grip you’re not the only one out there riding. 😂

I can't believe that I watched this drivel as long as I did! It started out well... until the entitled karen attitude surfaced. It's not your personal racetrack, bro.

@johnstowe3267

Жыл бұрын

They should’ve just pulled over to let the faster traffic pass…the end!

@noellan57

Жыл бұрын

@@johnstowe3267 entitled prick.

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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Nothing worse than jackass adv riders that think they own the roads. How dare people drive safe!

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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The road is a state route and built for transportation in a very rural area. We have no rights beyond the speed limit. I get frustrated at slow drivers at times but I do not get angry and expect them to get out of my way.

@phogol

Жыл бұрын

so if we mic'd your car you are saying you never say a word even to yourself...sure bud. I would bet my life income that you invented sport bitching based on that comment.

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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The Harley and the car have just as much right to be there as you and there is a speed limit on 129. Why should they have to pull over so you can be a danger to on coming traffic?

This is a federal hwy. he has every right to it i drove 129 for 15 years and never pulled over . Let them get their own race track

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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NOTHING like a nice, stress-free, civilised, pleasant drive -or ride- ...without some asshole honking at you because he can go faster and NEEDS to like he's late for ...what!

@briarfox637

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, but at least go the speed limit. There's a difference between going slow and going the speed limit.

@ericwilson178

Жыл бұрын

@@briarfox637 you will never know.

@ericwilson178

Жыл бұрын

Ohhh, but the opportunities you have. Too blind to see. Many Americans would love to have the opportunities you have.

@briarfox637

Жыл бұрын

@@ericwilson178 TF are you talking about?

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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The path through the mountains at US 129 started as a footpath used by the native Americans in the region. They laid out the route. Also, south of I-40 there are only 4 roads to cross the Appalachians in East Tennessee. US 441 through the Smoky Mountain National park, nice road, but very slow and full of tourists, US 129, the Cherohala, and US 64 in the southernmost part of the state. Not a lot of choices, so the cars cannot avoid that road without going a hundred miles out of the way.

@mototrips1

Жыл бұрын

Very interesting information!! Thanks for sharing!!!

@johngilbert1047

10 ай бұрын

Another thing to consider is the time it takes for first responders to get to the remote parts of the Dragon. There’s a helipad across from the Harley store in Tallasee on the TN side. That’s the closest a helicopter can get to it. Robbinsville is the closest on the NC side. Sometimes, there are no police within 30 minutes of the Dragon and medical help is at least that far. The store at the NC end in Deal’s Gap is in Swain County, but is isolated from the rest of the county by 1/2 hour drive thru Graham County. Graham County will respond in an emergency, but it will still take a while. US 129 used to be a truck route, but they are now prohibited. Once in a while a truck driver ignores the warning signs and causes mayhem on the mountain. Again, emergency services could be 45 min to an hour away.

I don’t think you should be on motor vehicles

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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Grow some and pass the car

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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Yall just let some broad ruin a perfectly good ride. You should have pulled over and waited 30 seconds and you would have been fine as slow as you're riding. That or pass them, they're in a mini van!

@jamesadams2334

Жыл бұрын

can't pass on double yellow.

Quit crying 😢 Mr. Impatient, 1000lb Harley-Davidson to your 350lb.

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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@SolarEclips86

Ай бұрын

Well if you do not like it do not ride a Harley Davidson no one but you picked out a 1000lb oil leaking over price junk bike.

Hey jack wit, people drive this road several times a day to get to work, home the store etc... it's not here for your enjoyment it's to move from one side of the mountains to the other! As for the speed limit they are driving the speed limit and double yellow on this route which means no passing!

@guylupo2564

9 ай бұрын

Hey Brucie, I don't live in bum fuk Tennessee, so the only reason I would travel that road is the beautiful scenery and twisting roads. It would 100% be for my pure enjoyment. So go play sheriff on property that you actually own.

@I_irritate_assholes

8 ай бұрын

​@@guylupo2564Right?! I am a tax paying citizen and can ride where ever I please, Im a man and nobody is gonna tell me Im not welcome on public property

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

Thanks!!

Typical arrogance of many that ride a BMW 😂. If your so good pass him 🤔

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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Really put off by the riders comments.Im a long time rider and get the whole cant open her up issue,but its a public road.For me,the riders comments ruined the video,not the car doing the speed limit.

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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If he pulled off you still have a car in front of you he couldn't go any faster than the car

I drive this road every chance I get and I’ve always used the pull offs for the bikes or faster cars. It’s a fun road for sure.

@chrissyfowler3613

Жыл бұрын

All these negative comments…I just keep thinking that suv should’ve pulled over to let everyone by…maybe it’s their little game pissing off the tourists

@jamesadams2334

8 ай бұрын

No, they are following the law. The posted speed limit is 30mph. Either obey the law or go home! @@chrissyfowler3613

The posted speed limit is just that, a "Limit." Unlike an interstate, there's no "minimum posted speed" on The Dragon, which means a driver can do less than the posted speed if they so desire. If the vehicle in front of you is prohibiting you from driving as fast as you'd like, then quit your b1tching and just enjoy the view. It's only your road to do with as you please when there's no other vehicles ahead of you. When there are others, it's their road too, and if they want to sightsee (courteous or not), it's as much their right to do so, as it is yours to play in the curves. Learn to be patient. It's only 11 miles after all. Screw it! When it's safe to do so, turn around, go back to the start, and do it again. That will give the sightseers ample time to do their thing, while now allowing you the opportunity to do yours. I'll say it again. Quit your b1tching.

@itsahellofaname

7 ай бұрын

Speaking of interstates and "no minimum posted speed", go right ahead and putt-putt down the interstate and see if you don't get a ticket for impeding the flow of traffic. The posted speed limit is the expected speed of traffic.

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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You are in the wrong buddy this is a highway for everyone to use not for you to test your skills.

Your more worried about what the mini van is doing , then just taken in the ride & enjoy the time.

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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Classic ROAD RAGE…pull over and take a hit and mellow out!!!!!!!

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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Why are you in such a BFH hurry

Rode my Road King on the Dragon last fall and while I enjoyed it I also thought it was a lot of work for a big Harley haha. I would rate the Cherohala Skyway a much nice less stressful ride. And if you're on the Dragon getting so upset about what's in front of you why not just pull over yourself and chill out for 10-15min and you'll never see them again.

@jamesadams2334

8 ай бұрын

...........or just obey the law!

I just dont think the orange Harley did anything wrong. He is behind a car for first half and two cars the second half. You wanted him to pull over so you could pass two cars on the Dragon? That would never have occurred to me. If anything I bet the Harley was thinking’s, “Good two more bikes behind me, now the car will pull over for sure.”

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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You need to get over your self.try the dragon loop,it's 110 miles

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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Dude, really

Ya'll aren't the only ones on the road dude

@logut80

9 ай бұрын

That's what you should tell the ppl in the suv

@jamesadams2334

8 ай бұрын

You mean the people obeying the speed limit? Grow up!@@logut80

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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@SolarEclips86

Ай бұрын

​@@jamesadams2334person was going under the speed limit. Please learn numbers.

Hey,buddy this is not a racetrack,it is a state highway !

@jnel57

Жыл бұрын

It is not a state Highway. It is a US Highway

@47MTCLLC

Жыл бұрын

@@jnel57 State Hwy County Hwy this guy is a complete douche nut!

@garychandler4296

Жыл бұрын

Can't watch any more. My pard andi on a performance modded Harley and a Victory, WILL NOT ride it on a weekend because of the clueless slugs that a) won't use the pulloffs or b) watch mirrors, c) single up and let you pass. When with the Dragon, we are there for the ROAD AND RIDE, NOT the freaking scenery that never changes! We often even pass crotch rockets or adv bikes because they are just flower sniffers, duck-walking selfish no-riders. We feel your pain!

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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@cheetahobx

2 ай бұрын

You ride in your vehicle....I DRIVE my vehicle.....

I’ve driven on these roads all my life… they seem normal to me. Reminds me of flying the the Bahamas for years, then flying out west in the mountains… the guys I flew with were amazed by the water… I was amazed by the mountains. Same happened for the straight road in Nevada from Hawthorne to to Yellowstone… straight road for hours. 200 mile drag strip, without a bend in the road.

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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Remember, always go fast, fast ,fast. Gotta get there , Hurry ,hurry, all the time. 😆

I have an F-3S Spyder. It’s a joy to ride! Wasn’t sure I would love like it, but I do! It’s like ridding a formula 1 race car on the street. I thought my ridding day were over after a major stroke 7 ears ago. My balance is the only thing that didn’t come back to normal after rehab. But I’m back baby, back in the wind!!! 😉 My last street bike was a 1997 Valkyrie STD. Loved that bike. Miss it 😥 at least I’m back in the wind!!! ❤️

One second of throttle, properly applied, would have gotten you safely around that SUV. That's less time than it takes to flip him off.

@briarfox637

Жыл бұрын

He didn't flip him off, the SUV driver flipped him off.

@charlesbynum

Жыл бұрын

@@briarfox637 I didn't say someone flipped. I simply used that as a metric. I could have said "less time than a hissy fit the length of the dragon's tail", but that would have been much too road specific. I wanted the instruction to be more general.

@briarfox637

Жыл бұрын

@@charlesbynum Right. The way I read it made it sound like you were saying it'd take the biker less time to flip him off, flip him the bird, whatever, just to go around him. I was saying the biker didn't do anything. The SUV driver flipped him the bird.

@johnrenterprises2604

Жыл бұрын

@@briarfox637 the biker in this case was in the wrong with his entitled attitude. He got the #1 signal righteously.

@briarfox637

Жыл бұрын

@@johnrenterprises2604 I don't see what he was doing other than complaining the guy was going slow. He wasn't tailgating, he wasn't riding up on him. Did I miss something from the vid?

Great Tail video haven’t been there in years

@mototrips1

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!!

You were more than patient with that driver. It's just common courtesy to pull over and let someone pass. Also, it's nice to see that all of the people her never drive over the speed limit...lol

You prioritized your personal enjoyment and entitlement to your ideal video content over the safety and consideration of other road users. Imagine how intimidated and disturbed your horn blasting made the car driver trying to drive safely felt. Is there well known etiquette on this or any twisty road that says cars should pull over onto the cruddy verge for the benefit of bikes? Why did you characterize the driver as a potential roadrager? If I'm missing something please let me know but the episode looks like you were the inconsiderate one here.

@mototrips1

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting! Another point of view that I greatly appreciate!!

@WVRider304

Жыл бұрын

The tail has paved pull offs every 1/4 mile or so in either direction. It’s customary by locals and regulars to utilize them if faster traffic comes up behind you.

@mototrips1

Жыл бұрын

@@WVRider304 yes there are pull offs meant for slower vehicles. This is common knowledge but the person driving obviously didn’t know. I’m thinking it would be great to have signs that are a little clearer for drivers so they know. It would make it much more enjoyable for everyone on TOD

@russjordan6039

Жыл бұрын

The car driver was a jerk, there are turn outs for a reason, use them! In some states you could receive a ticket for slowing traffic on roads like that for not using the turn outs. God only knows how many dangerous situations this drive has caused and will cause for their inconsiderate attitude toward others. You missed a lot you do not even need to pull off all the way, just move to your right give a wave and let the bike motor by you in a safe way, it is easy and many drivers understand how this works. They gave the guy the finger, not a potential finger mind you, so assuming some road rage was certainly justified. Folks that ride motorcycles on beautiful roads like this are their for the enjoyment and there are always a few who want to make a point of ruining that enjoyment, and for what purpose. People must deal with reality and there are times one should be courteous. I understand how folks get tired of thousand of motorcycles invading their local area and many being asses, but this was not the case here.

@pucknhusker9426

Жыл бұрын

Seems we need signs now for common sense. Ida just overtaken

Nice video, In Colorado, that's just an ordinary mountain road! Guess we don't realize how lucky we are 😆

@mototrips1

Жыл бұрын

Heading to Colorado this summer…can’t wait!!

@englishsteel-nz6im

Жыл бұрын

In Cali... it definitely is not as special looking to me as it is for people from flatter states... but it does a special unique amount of turns and variations of turns so it would be a top road even in California. That said, it'd just be another top road lol.... we have plenty of others.

@Dave-sw2dm

Жыл бұрын

It was just another mountain pass until someone decided to market it. As a state highway the speed limit was 55 mph until it became saturated with tourists. There are many great roads with little to no traffic in the mountains, but none with photographers in the corners. The road is also narrower than it looks on video.

@JM-rp9qf

Жыл бұрын

@englishsteel2347 anything is special compared to shitty California

@steventwiddy3402

Жыл бұрын

There are lots of great riding roads in that area the dragon 🐉 is just one of the most popular and most crowded

What a bummer too bad people can sometimes be idiots

@boomerzoomer3172

Жыл бұрын

That’s why I don’t ride there any more

@mototrips1

Жыл бұрын

It’s a good road just have to expect this kind of stuff I guess

@countryjoe3551

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, blowing your horn at someone in front of you that is running faster than the posted speed limit is a pretty d0u€hy move.

I don't mean to be sarcastic but why in heaven's name did you just follow behind and get all pissy honking your horns instead of just passing both the Harley and the car? You have such an acceleration advantage over the car and Harley that you can just pass them at will.

@SolarEclips86

Ай бұрын

It's called double line. Someone doesn't ride

Great vid guys. My son and I rode the dragon some years ago. We rode it round trip to deals gap like 6 times and the second day we rode it a couple of times. Like you all we came a long way for our 5 day trip so we wanted to get the most out of it.

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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This guy has something to say about everything and everyone. I've ridden The Dragon a few times. I've never had the complaints that this guy does.

Angry about the car going 30 mph, then proceeds to go about 10 mph faster. 😂

@larrynoe6162

Жыл бұрын

Right you are, I rode my Roadglide faster than they went after they got around the car. Many skill levels riding at their level is okay. Last one of this guys video I am watching.

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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i rode this riding a 2003 Harley Superglide sport , with a big bore kit plenty of horsepower and still i took it easy the whole way, heavy bike commands some road respect through curves.

@captseamus

Жыл бұрын

Go Yamaha Vmax 1200!

@charlespflanze9651

Жыл бұрын

Dunno if I would have ever had the balls to ride a heavy cruiser through there at speed. I started riding the Dragon a very long time ago on a new '73 Honda CB350. I lived around a 1/2 hour away from the area (riding above the speed limit back then being a youngster) and I scared myself good a few times at first on the road. I was scraping the low slung stock exhausts on the pavement and gettin' real squirrely back there. This road has by now all been fixed, but back in the 70's it was poorly maintained and nobody much drove on it except for the locals and the people pulling fishing boats over to Calderwood Lake or to Fontana Lake. So I traded for a '74 CB450 and figured it would be a better highway 129 bike, should have more ground clearance. Nope. It did the very same thing with the stock pipes and shocks. So I installed a 2 into 1 Hooker exhaust on it that was up and out of the way, and installed a pair of Mulholland shocks. After that I could ride the Dragon with no more problems. I liked the sound of the new pipes, and I reckon I was guilty myself of increasing the noise level around there. But I figured that if a loud bike with glass pack straight through baffles goes through the woods and there's nobody there to hear it - did it make a sound?

@2WUSA

Жыл бұрын

Not a weight issue…it’s a max lean issue

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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Jay, good show but you could smile. 😊

I have done this ride several times. When I pass someone it's because they are slowing down to let you pass. Some people actually do this in a bad spot. If you come up on a bike that's doing the best they can you don't need to pass them up. You should not expect them to pull over. You could just stop and pull over or just ride it again. Let the slower bikes do their thing too. You don't own the road. I think you get a good idea of what's behind you so you could turn around and go back, then ride it again. kzread.info/dash/bejne/X6F5pqiacsjIoqg.html

Im actually excited because im going to be going to the tail of the dragon for the first time soon to go ride with my old Army First Sgt. I live about 3 hours from the tail of the dragon, in Wilkesboro NC and ive always wanted to go. But the ride that i REALLY want to do is the Waterfall loop down near Bryson City, North Carolina.

@mototrips1

Жыл бұрын

Very cool that whole area is amazing! You’ll have a blast!!

Went to Bryson City from Nashville last week, the quickest route is via 129. I didn't even realize it was taking me on the tail until we hit it. I was driving my diesel ZR2 pick up, but darn it I pulled over when I could to let the bikes and sports cars pass

Great video!

@mototrips1

8 ай бұрын

Thanks!!

Why don't y'all just pass them.

I rode my GS up last week from Fort Myers, had not ridden the road since 2006. Unfortunately was there on the weekend and observed a commercialized clown show with no lane discipline. So many squids riding way beyond their ability, sports car drivers were even worse. Two passes through and I got the hell out of there, 74 back through the Ocoee was so much better. The spot to be these days for spirited riding is Suches, GA.

@mototrips1

Жыл бұрын

I agree..definitely need to get to the Suches area I’ve heard it’s awesome!

"We're catching up to some haarleeeys" = 1 bike behind 2 cars.

my PCX 125 scooter would embarrass you on that road

Oh i cant wait for when i get the chance to ride this. Thanks for taking us along. Love the 15mph corners on the GSA. New Sub.

@mototrips1

Жыл бұрын

Have to do it at least once 👍

@AdventureGlide

Жыл бұрын

@@mototrips1 I will get there someday one way or another. But it’s a long ways away from Nevada.

Number one: you don’t own the road . Number two: you don’t pay taxes to maintain the road. Number three: shut up, relax , slow down and enjoy the ride just like the other people in front of you

Wow grow a pair bro....

Lesson learned from this video, guys that ride BMW bikes are just as entitled and arrogant as guys that drive their four wheeled kraut burning cousins.

I was kind of hoping a Sasquatch would bust out in front of you.

Yeah, whining because you can't break the law during the Monday-Friday hours because normal people use the road to go to work seems pretty lame. Or entitled. Go on the weekend. Then you'll be the ones sworn at, yelled at, and honked at because you are too slow. Total lack of respect.

If you want to go fast do it at night,Pus

@chrissyfowler3613

Жыл бұрын

Do you rip up TOD at night? I’d like to see that vid lol…

@jamesadams2334

Жыл бұрын

Don't do it at night, GO TO A RACE TRACK!

Eastern Tennessee has so many roads that equal or exceed tail of the dragon

Speed limit

These guys bitching about others riders. If they are such badass riders go around.there is a speed limit on the road. An police

@RICDirector

Жыл бұрын

And its all marked NO PASSING knothead.

OK. That's like taking a trip with a whiny teenager. Can't legally smack em.

Big trucks are now banned on the dragon after several accidents.

This is the only route for some people to get where they’re going. You were being ridiculous! What a baby!

Beemer run makes it look sooo nice compared to all the others I've seen. Nice!!

Here in the UK we’d just cross the solid line and pass by.

They built it to haul moonshine back in the day

Dang it boy ride it some more. It's a nice road just don't get to excited. Lmao.

@mototrips1

5 ай бұрын

Thanks! Ride safe!

Lol…….yes trucks do drive the tail of the dragon 🐉 I have personally seen them come down wheelie hell

I think the worst part of the slow drivers is their crossing of the double yellow in the turns. It's not like they're going fast enough to need to straighten the curves.

It happens, you made the wise decision to hit it on a weekday to avoid the mass of cycles on the weekends. That's when the hard core sport bikes hit the road along with the weekend warriors. Most of the fast riders would have passed you like you were sitting still, while some of the novices would be just as frustrating as the car drivers. They are not required to get out of your way regardless. Should have hit the pull over the van did and turned around. Virtually no traffic going the other way, would have been able to ride to your desires and ability better.

@mototrips1

Жыл бұрын

Thanks..In retrospect maybe it would have been smart to go the other way then run it again. We pulled off to wait for them to get far enough ahead but probably should have waited much much longer for them to get way ahead. Thanks for your comments

@Dochunter815

Жыл бұрын

agreed! Wish I would have seen a more positive example of sharing the road all around or mental agility to make this into a positive example for motorcyclists…. With that said….Not a lot of ways for people that live in that area to get from the Venore TN area south, or to Venore from the south area without going miles and miles around… a Monday morning could have been just someone trying to get to work or get some errands done… this is a public road with speed limits, this video doesn’t shine too positively on motorcyclists that have to share the road with the other motorists or locals that need that road to get from A to B…. Even for their tourism jobs….Sad video that the rest of motorcyclists will have to work hard as two wheel ambassadors to overcome the negativity that those other drivers experienced that day, even the Harley riders experience likely was more negative dealing with vehicles in front and horns from behind…. Nice quality video though, just wish it was a better example for new riders to emulate… 😢

Imagine going through life under the impression that everybody else is supposed to stop what they are doing and cater to your needs. Get a bike with a big enough motor to pass Funny thing .... Look at his speedometer , aint doing shit except on the straits after the car pulled over anyways

@russjordan6039

Жыл бұрын

That particular bike has awesome power available, apparently you know nothing about motorcycles. You are not supposed to not hold up other folks on roads like the Dragon, you ever wonder why they have turn outs???

@mamjack6134

Жыл бұрын

@@russjordan6039 not supposed to break speed limit either. If they going so slow why didn't that powerful beast pass them? Crying through the video, feel bad for the teachers dealing with his kids .

@russjordan6039

Жыл бұрын

@@mamjack6134 Hey bud, make up your mind, do not speed or blow by them and speed. He showed great restraint in making sure he did not put his or the car occupants in an unsafe situation. I am 71 and have been riding motorcycles since I was 9. I have seen these types of car drivers many times, I am not saying they are all jerks, but their lack of road awareness can still kill people.

@mamjack6134

Жыл бұрын

@@russjordan6039 whippty dooo

@russjordan6039

Жыл бұрын

@@mamjack6134 Hey dude, your mommy is calling, must be nighty night....

When I pull off to let traffic go, I stay put until I see the next vehicle and then jump in front at that point.

Ride it 20 years ago and the low performance riders on high performance bikes ruined the whole experience not to mention they ran a fellow rider off the road fortunately no injuries just some bruises.

Just overtake him mate, weak as piss haha

@jamesadams2334

Жыл бұрын

what a stupid idea!

@hanskremer8301

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesadams2334Well take action or quit the bitching and moaning

I was on there back in 2010, if you were in front of me going 40mph you would be slowing me down. I was on a Goldwing.

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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Lots of State Troopers on the Tail

Go around if you're such a great rider

Gotta be an entitled BMW rider who thinks the world revolves around them.

My first time on the Dragon I was heading through to camp in the Nantahala on Slick Rock Creek. I was driving an F100 six-banger with 3-on-the-tree. There was a telephone booth in front of the motel by the road. Had to call collect. That was about 1982, before Nick Ienatsch told the world about it. I had just got out of the Army. My first real attack on the Dragon was with a Toyota MR2. But my best attack was on New Years Day 2008 with a Porsche Carrera. I figured law enforcement would be home after chasing drunks all night. Sure enough, I had it all to myself. Only came across one other person that day and they pulled over quickly once they saw I had a head of steam up.

@mototrips1

6 ай бұрын

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