The way teenage girls were marketed in the 90s is weird

@whatthehellisthis

3 жыл бұрын

yeah it’s kinda sus...

@imbetterthanyouhahaha5202

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah...

@twoohoot

3 жыл бұрын

@@whatthehellisthis kinda, its all way.. ahahah

@shamartTM

3 жыл бұрын

Yep

@micnik3573

3 жыл бұрын

Its pedo in pop culture yes

the lesbianism, the short school girl uniforms: it was clearly just a marketing scheme for men

@taofeeqah3591

3 жыл бұрын

honestly it was not good wlw representation at all. played very much into the stereotypes that lesbians exist to please or arouse men

@kodamagreenone9367

3 жыл бұрын

well I as a girl was finding them really cute and really cool back then so

@patriciavicente374

3 жыл бұрын

How is lesbianism a marketing scheme? My lesbian isn’t a market to anyone

@daisyslovebot

3 жыл бұрын

@@patriciavicente374 that’s not what they meant

@multijxde1855

3 жыл бұрын

@@patriciavicente374 what-

It bothers me so much they were forced to make out in a music video when they were litrally 15

@denisenova7494

3 жыл бұрын

13

@liaavv_4959

3 жыл бұрын

@@denisenova7494 wow wtf

@auandaily

3 жыл бұрын

@@denisenova7494 thats even worse

@justadjustor8993

3 жыл бұрын

And the upskirt shots and the wet uniforms and...... 😭😭😭

@itzsu3adz249

3 жыл бұрын

I think they debuted as 14 in 1999 but songs was after 4 y soo 17

I'm heavily dissapointed with her homophobic remarks towards gay men. Ironically coming from a woman who portrayed a Lesbian character.

@greyLeicester

3 жыл бұрын

For clout, honey. Playing a role doesnt mean thats what you believe or support in real life 🙄

@Austin-LA

3 жыл бұрын

@@greyLeicester if your playing a role of something you don't support or believe in, then why even play the role to begin with? It's one thing to be forced in to a role, but you actively have a choice to pick then don't pick it. It's that simple.

@vaclavvrana5200

3 жыл бұрын

Well, they both are from very homophobic country, so Julia's beliefs and remarks are not that surprising. At least Lena supports the LGBT community. My point is that we cannot expect open-mindness from majority of Russians. Don't forget there even were (and maybe still are) anti-gay purges in Chechnya (= part of Russia) lately.

@TripleE15214

3 жыл бұрын

Even more sad she is homophobic towards men because she doesn’t think two men together is “being a men” but two women are ok because they are aesthetically pleasing together. Couldn’t be more hypocritical.

@mac8827

3 жыл бұрын

@@Austin-LA Maybe they played the role for fame and more importantly money. That seems like an incentive enough for some people. I don’t agree with it but I understand it. There is a lot of people/corporations that play “roles”, that will gain attraction in the moment, to gain power.

My little lesbian heart BROKE when I found out it was fake.

@KO-md2mc

3 жыл бұрын

@@hardkol I mean, they weren't lesbians. They weren't together romantically. So... I will say, the impact they had was real. The conversations they started were real. But it was two steps forward, once step back.

@somebodyoncetoldme5799

3 жыл бұрын

@Jinsoulsbleachedhair a lot of Russians loved them, actually.

@KO-md2mc

3 жыл бұрын

@@hardkol I mean, what do you want me to say? The homophobe had a romp with an unknown girl? (Yulia said it wasn't love and just "banal desire", but I think they meant carnal lol. So either it was a novelty or just "desire of the flesh". But still lacking of love, which is my point.) I also think that the closeness of being together all the time creates a bond and feelings of love. Familial love and platonic love. Very real emotions, but very different from romantic love. Also, the songs don't hold much weight as evidence for me. 1. Believe in Goodbyes isn't an official song for Lena from what I can see. 2. Queer-baiting is half of what tatu was. I don't see why they wouldn't throw in a line in a song talking about "our love is forbidden". That can be translated multiple ways. Open to interpretation. Open to hope. I would also like to put out there that the "safest" way to have lesbians in the public... is for them to not be lesbians. Especially in the homophobic Russian climate they came from and almost every place they went to tour, given it was back in the early 2000's. Although it could just be easier to find straight girls who want to sing and act. It's not my goal to convince you that there wasn't a shred of something there, but it's too little, too late for me.

@zerafina6623

3 жыл бұрын

@@hardkol I mean of course they would develop some feels they were working together for a long time and they are both very attractive and they make out onscreen... So... It would be impossible to not feel anything. Even actors/actresses would feel something 😂

@beepboop2842

3 жыл бұрын

mine too, i hate the people who made them do this

5:47 She doesn't understand, homosexual love is the same as heterosexual love. It's not about the aesthetic, it's about the love we have for each other that no one lets us have.

@myajanette

3 жыл бұрын

FACTS. What is so hard to understand about it???

@maip.nasthethird261

3 жыл бұрын

Who you love doesn't make you any less of a man, right guys? I'm glad you guys get it

@purpleteardropss

3 жыл бұрын

@Aer /// Western people will never understand eastern europenian mentality... I'm from Poland and situation of LGBT people is not good here as well

@a_barbgorl4065

3 жыл бұрын

That’s because over the years artistic lesbianism was made solely for the “male gaze”, and that mentality is still set in many people today sadly

@user-fs2il6dm4d

3 жыл бұрын

no it’s not the same, homosexual is obviously when two same gender are attracted to each other and take on that action but heterosexual is with two opposite gender.

okay but everything about this song is just iconic

@donaldducksazzcheeks

3 жыл бұрын

It's art really

@queenofparkview

3 жыл бұрын

Soooooo Iconic. I miss these days

@vaultgirl42091

3 жыл бұрын

Oooh you should check out Poppys version of All The Things She Said!

@kesharoselanadelrey3972

3 жыл бұрын

@Vault Girl420 YES YESSSSS

@vaultgirl42091

3 жыл бұрын

@@kesharoselanadelrey3972 its epic! Love Poppy. Shes the best. 🖤

When he said “while begging her baby to hit her one more time” i screamed

@ratiii4555

3 жыл бұрын

💀😂

@lunahooki279

3 жыл бұрын

My drink came out my nose when he said it

@shay5518

3 жыл бұрын

Nawww 🤣🤣🤣

@Neynana

3 жыл бұрын

Same 😭😭🤚

@alluringdee5066

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂🤣🤣🤣

All the things she said was a bop!

@ozgardea8782

3 жыл бұрын

*is*

@erickessler7105

3 жыл бұрын

@@hardkol was also wwe victoria theme song in 2002-2003. so victoria use song as her theme song in 2002-2003 in wwe.

Karen cut lady: ''I'm not homoph*bic, I have gay friends!'' is just making it seem so much more awful...

@whatthehellisthis

3 жыл бұрын

karen cut lady: “i’m not homophobic” also karen cut lady: literally uses a homophobic slur

@Anthony-cl3wc

3 жыл бұрын

And shes bi

@blackcat6508

3 жыл бұрын

fa99ot is not a homophobic slur

@isniffoutpedos5956

3 жыл бұрын

If she's bi, then she's kinda freaked in the head

@starsiadraws

3 жыл бұрын

@@hardkol Being bisexual doesn't make it okay to be homophobic to gay men 💖💜💙

I always liked the red head better. She had a better vibe.

@valleydawn1497

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Me too..

@olbrozhgregorio8898

3 жыл бұрын

Lena has said she supports the LGBT community so yeah

@SwaggieVortex733

3 жыл бұрын

@@olbrozhgregorio8898 She sure did

@robynmcsharry9611

3 жыл бұрын

Lena is much more attractive.

@SwaggieVortex733

3 жыл бұрын

@@robynmcsharry9611 Yup but I say that Lena and Yulia are both equally attractive (they're all grown up)

Lol I remember these two. As a kid I thought they were friends and when I got older I noticed the meaning behind their lyrics

@themixtapepk

3 жыл бұрын

Lol same!

@ramonaflores3155

3 жыл бұрын

me too ...

@armyshope

3 жыл бұрын

And what's wrong the lyrics are good

@armyshope

3 жыл бұрын

@mondai girl ah this is mine ol' reply here Well they were possibly been lied to it happens often in music industry

@purplelove010

2 жыл бұрын

Me too

I have a friend who looooves them because of their "lesbianism". She thinks they are the best couple in the world. The sad thing is that she still hasn't noticed it was all fake.

@cola7260

3 жыл бұрын

How doesn’t she realize that it was the producers idea for them to do it for attention

@adrianazashen

3 жыл бұрын

Sending her this video would be like taking the red pill for her 😅

@diabolicaldebbie

3 жыл бұрын

Cant say it was entirely fake when both girls have always been bisexual. There was chemistry between them, at least in the beginning. Being in t.A.T.u enabled them to experiment with each other (and they did). Also, while on tour they slept in the same bed. Remember, Russia was deeply homophobic at the time and it was illegal to be gay. Lena was also made to attend regular confessional meetings with her priest and their parents were present at all major contract meetings with their manager and producer. The girls seemed affectionate with each other until Yulia became pregnant. From that moment onwards, they slept in separate rooms, onstage kissing became hugging and then just handholding. The relationship of t.A.T.u quickly deteriorated from that point onwards and Lena wanted out. Yulia then threatend to sabotage Lena's career if she tried to leave t.A.T.u and they parted. Yulia feels guilty for destroying their relationship and the image of t.A.T.u, and Lena has never forgiven her for it. Now as women and solo singers, Yulia has made music video clips about her attraction to both men and women and Lena remains an activist for the LGBTQ community.

All the things she said was an amazing song lyrically and melodically. It’s interesting to think that those lyrics described exactly how a lot of lgbt people feel and yet one of the girls still were homophobic being in the group. It was destined to collapse

@elizrebezilmadommdo1662

3 жыл бұрын

Probably because it wasn't written by the girls

@simplicity7862

3 жыл бұрын

@@elizrebezilmadommdo1662 I know it wasn’t written from them but they sung this sound countless of times, you would think should would feel some type of emotions and feel the truth of the lyrics.

@elizrebezilmadommdo1662

3 жыл бұрын

@@simplicity7862 Just because they sing a song about something over and over again doesn't mean that they have to relate to the lyrics. Singers sing songs that don't feel personal to them all the time.

@simplicity7862

3 жыл бұрын

@@elizrebezilmadommdo1662 I understand

@elizrebezilmadommdo1662

3 жыл бұрын

@@melody5893 That's a very good point that I didn't even think about. There are also lesbians who are against two men being together, and vise versa.

i learn so much from your videos. i loved all the things she said when i was younger and i had no idea about any of this

@sharni2116

3 жыл бұрын

Kuromi Lover you can’t be “bisexual until 2007” sexuality isn’t a choice

@fookingavocados1084

3 жыл бұрын

Ricky Dillon i love your videos

@myajanette

3 жыл бұрын

Omg Rickyyy

@devilman4435

2 жыл бұрын

Omg ricky didnt expect to find u here😂

Apparently there was supposed to be an anime movie called “t.A.T.u Paragate” about them, but was later cancelled. Interesting stuff!

@alice73333

3 жыл бұрын

damn wish that would've happened

@BearsInSpayce

3 жыл бұрын

Didn’t “did you know anime” Cover that story? I wish it would’ve happened

@sindy14031998

3 жыл бұрын

That can maybe explain that they have a music video with an anime story

@adrianazashen

3 жыл бұрын

@@sindy14031998 Gomenasai

Russian versions of their songs were always played on Polish radio when I was traveling with my dad. I remember everyone commenting, because the fact that they were "lesbians" was something big in countries like Poland and Russia. Good times...

@katarzynarawska9999

3 жыл бұрын

Nas ne dogonyat 🤞🏻

@Night-Shade.

3 жыл бұрын

Poland is sadly still homophobic with the lgbt free zones

@quietviolence7957

3 жыл бұрын

@@Night-Shade. I know... It's really bad. I don't live in such a zone, but I have many friends who live and it is a torment. The president has said the LGBT movement is "more destructive" than communism... But I know that TATU has helped many people in Poland to accept their sexual orientation and many people have become more tolerant and open.

@donghyucksmom2413

3 жыл бұрын

@@Night-Shade. LGBT FREE ZONES?! omg that's sounds inhumane, I went to Kraków last summer and never saw anything anti-LGBT, sad.

@quietviolence7957

3 жыл бұрын

@@donghyucksmom2413 I live near Kraków and in big cities like Kraków it's not that bad. The situation is worse in smaller towns and villages. In villages, even if you have blue or pink hair, they immediately think you are gay. But it's all because of our government's absurd claims about LGBT. Unfortunately, many older people believe them.

A Turtle has approved this video.

@mademoisellecarbonmonoxide4928

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@noemistephanie93

3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@mimsycookiiess

3 жыл бұрын

👏

@mar1nn998

3 жыл бұрын

lmaooo

@Yellow-Banana

3 жыл бұрын

Sksks

I‘m glad we‘re past this „let‘s present young teen girls in super tight and sexy outfits and let them sing provocative lyrics”-era of pop music 😅

@softkj7612

3 жыл бұрын

*breaks through walls.* ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?

@micnik3573

3 жыл бұрын

Yup.

@denisenova7494

3 жыл бұрын

It still exists. Especially in Korea.

@III-wb5dk

3 жыл бұрын

@@denisenova7494 yeah true, but K-Pop and the pressure that is put on young (female) idols is a completely other story of it‘s own.. diet culture, young idols being pushed into a sexy concept, netizens constantly body shaming them and so on 😣 I feel like in K-Pop it‘s much more that is in need for change than in western pop music, where mostly the way of presenting the stars was problematic at that time 😕

@III-wb5dk

3 жыл бұрын

@@melody5893 but compared to the early 2000s pop stars now at least have a more independent voice to call such things out thanks to social media.. also thanks to that, they have more control over their own image in my opinion..

I loved when he said "living life as an openly straight woman", that was weird to hear

Me, a Russian gay man clicking on this video: "Interesting."

@mikhaillitvin4545

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@arancienne

3 жыл бұрын

do you live in russia and are you openly gay, or would that be dangerous?

@somebodyoncetoldme5799

3 жыл бұрын

@@arancienne not as dangerous for European side and big cities, like Moscow or St. Petersburg. But a lot of rural areas and/or states, like Chechnya, can be extremely dangerous. You can watch "Welcome to Chechnya" to get an idea. But also people begin to realize that this is not the way, so there is hope.

@arancienne

3 жыл бұрын

@@somebodyoncetoldme5799 I see, I hope some day you can be who you are without having to hide because of hateful people.

@user-mq2wy2ui8r

3 жыл бұрын

Кек

Fake or not, they ROCKED.

I feel sorry for them, if you take in consideration what happened to them, being made to be gay by producers, all the controversy as young girls... I can see their reasoning of their homophobic comments. It’s not an excuse but it truly affected them. Wish real LGBTQ had this type of success. I think the closest we have is Sam Smith.

@mrq.1236

3 жыл бұрын

There are so many big LGBTQ+ acts rn. Troye Sivan, Frank Ocean, Miley Cyrus. Lil Nas X coming out was quite a big moment in music last year. I mean, there could always be more and I get what you’re saying and maybe they’re not as mainstream as Sam Smith (although I’d disagree) but rn the music landscapes for LGBTQ+ artists is pretty impressive tbh. Sofia by Clairo is quite a big TikTok gen z song atm

@kadebebesis4204

3 жыл бұрын

I heard that the homophobic comments were poor translation of Russian to English. Apparently she had said I hope my son isn’t gay, because of how hard it is in Russia with homophobia.

@somebodyoncetoldme5799

3 жыл бұрын

@@kadebebesis4204 no, I'm Russian, and everything she said in that interview was translated correctly.

@somebodyoncetoldme5799

3 жыл бұрын

Freddie Mercury says hi 👋

@miickeyzreal

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrq.1236 None of the artist you mentioned have maintained mainstream appeal except Sam Smith. Miley Cyrus is probably the biggest star but she’s not really consistent and Lil Nas X is promising however his biggest hit was achieved when people thought he was straight. What I’m trysting say is I wish LGBTQ+ artist could be as “open” and “upfront” like T.A.T.U. was and find success.

Alrighty so a few things. So I’m a lesbian but I actually still really like this band. They’re sort of my comfort artists, if you will, even though it was fake which was sad it didn’t bother me. Yulia is actually bisexual, she said in an interview once. However she has stood strongly against gay men, calling them many terrible things including a word I’m not even comfortable saying. However, she has said she’s okay with lesbians because they are ‘more aesthetically pleasing’ and can keep reproducing. Yulia has recently been trying to get more envolved in Russian politics, and everyone thinks she’s a joke, even calling her the ‘female Russian trump’. Lean has openly supported all members of the lgbtq+ community, going to many events and making many posts in favor of us. She follows the same religious status as Volkova (or, at least, they are both religious), but even she has said that she doesn’t approve of Yulias comments or how she uses religion as an excuse to keep doing this. Lena has recently came forward with her story of sexual abuse/assault, I don’t really know because I had to translate it from russian to English and sometimes it’s off. Now they are both moms and married, Lena still being pretty famous in russia, yulia is up there too but she’s kind of being seen as pathetic at the moment. All in all, if this wasn’t such a male lesbian feitshization project, yes it would have been bette,r however we can still observe the art of the music and the project and respect it without nessesarily saying that we support all the ideations behind it and such. I still love tatu and listen to their songs everyday, I can put this behind me and just listen to the music. That’s my two cents.

@Jeffrey.Seelman

2 ай бұрын

Very well written Sophie. Just being a music guy, there were some hints early on when their promotional team started teasing the idea that they also liked men. Maybe? Just being a heterosexual male, I found that to be suspicious because I know many gay, lesbian and bisexual people. Most people do not swerve their sexuality so easily. It seemed to me that they were trying to expand their fan base at the time. But the main thing I get out of all of this is that some their songs are just excellent and stand the test of time. And so when I do listen to their songs I just think about how good they are and how gay, lesbian and bisexual people as well as straight people can benefit from concepts, ideas and music that are well-written and well performed. So I think their songs will far outlast the creepy concept of marketing fake sexual identity in order to make money when it really should not matter and I really do think that Lena made that point quite clear in interviews. I guess that's my two cents. Not perfect but something I wrote.

I’m Russian, this is just constructive criticism - you completely butchered every name 😂

@jjmaraudeer4308

3 жыл бұрын

оо даа. я вообще не могла врубиться, про кого именно он рассказывал, потому что имена уж слишком перековерканные вышли. только по фоткам ориентировалась

@plamenasiniye

3 жыл бұрын

yessss, I understand that Russian names can be hard to pronounce but кто такой АЙВАН ШАБАЛОУ?????

@rrikkippi29

3 жыл бұрын

Пипец тут славян много оказывается, я думала я одна вся такая англичанка тут сижу Пс: айван шобалоу))0

@Night-Shade.

3 жыл бұрын

I have a question: Is it true that her homophobic statements were truly mistranslated? Any Russian speaker here can clarify?

@marinaradosavljevic4828

3 жыл бұрын

americans lol

i still can't get over the fact that they performed at the sochi olympics opening ceremony with backup dancers in rainbow jackets! and putin was clapping along. like that's iconic no matter what.

i love ur channel so much wah 😭💕

@ashleydison7465

3 жыл бұрын

i love your webtoon!!!!

@junkghost6196

3 жыл бұрын

oh hi thumin! i read your webtoon and i loved it!

All the things she said was such an iconic song

This was our “do you listen to girl in red”

Did everyone forget, that they participated at the Eurovision Song Contest

@czystekurestwo

3 жыл бұрын

I stan the performance despite its tragic sound at the beginning 😂

@itsjemmabond

3 жыл бұрын

I remember that. Everyone thought they'd win, but they lost to those Turkish belly-dancers.

Btw, Lena Katina's solo career is very good, with one of the best first albums I've ever heard.

Just to make sure everyone respects them names: Ee-van shá-po-va-lov Alexander Vói-tin-sky Léna Ká-tina Julia Vól-ko-va Intonation in Russian is key.

@Bijoucameron

3 жыл бұрын

julia volkova (юлия волкова) = yulia vól-ko-va

@laakmtpoata9044

3 жыл бұрын

And he did complete opposite lol

@boghund

3 жыл бұрын

It's more like: ee-VAHN shuh-puh-VUH-luhf uh-lick-SUHN-derr vye-TEEN-skee LEH-nuh KAH-tee-nuh YOU-lee-uh VOLE-kuh-vah

@alderroswell5588

3 жыл бұрын

@@boghund yeah but its making it more difficult than it should be lol. especially when you can leave alexander and julia anglicized for English speakers

@boghund

3 жыл бұрын

@@alderroswell5588 true but it's definitely not shá-po-va-lov

As a hardcore t.A.T.u. fan, who was there before the international success and after, when everything started to break down during their second and third album - I have nothing but love for them. They helped me out of the closet, gave me the opportunity to meet amazing people and even work with them. HOWEVER, the quote that Julia said was hurtful, we have seen her change over the years, she was on the verge of Islam, so she is slowly but surely becoming a conservative woman - nothing wrong with that, I prefer my homophobes to be homophobic to my face. Karma has done her good, she has lost her voice. And Lena, she is just a corn ball who can't seem to get a hit single on her own. Hopefully someday they come back, or not... t.A.T.u. was a beautiful thing, but it deserves to stay in the past.

@erickessler7105

3 жыл бұрын

@walter ocampo i was in my teen yrs when they were big. there 2002 hit song all things she said was wwe victoria theme song in 2002-2003. also bought a few of there cds. hear there 2002 hit song on siriusxm pop2k channel. which plays pop songs from 00-09. there were good together. they have faded away. like alot of singers or bands that were once big then are not anymore. agree with ur comment.

So FYI now the chances of her son being gay just jump up lol every parent that speaks like her always end up getting what they don't want. Just be happy u have a healthy son who is CAPABLE of loving .

@JoeyRhubarb

Жыл бұрын

Not healthy if he's gay.

Anyone else think they look like sisters tho, I mean especially in that thumbnail their facial features just look so similar.

@jackiegordillo

3 жыл бұрын

Kuromi Lover If you see the thumbnail, they do look so similar to their eyes and nose. Even their head position is so similar.

"I'm not saying I'm homophobic.... but I'm homophobic"

@lucyvlogandart5166

3 жыл бұрын

your not homophobic though

I almost said is this a reupload bc I remember you speaking on them before

Julia is actually bisexual.

@ssjjc333

3 жыл бұрын

@@hardkol the music video is even worse lmaoooo

@jalice02

3 жыл бұрын

How do you even know that

@jack-5699

3 жыл бұрын

if shes actually bisexual, then why is she homophobic

@Stopfollowingmeplz8

3 жыл бұрын

@@jack-5699 same way gay people can be biphobic. We're not a monolith. Also, google "gay purge Russia." I don't entirely buy that she believes what she's saying

@kirika20

3 жыл бұрын

@@jack-5699 she said she only accepts lesbianism, gay love between girls but not love between men but at the end of the day she is OK with gay men but doesn't want her son to be a gay man.

Dangerous and Moving is still one of my favorite albums, ngl. Almost every song on it is a BANGER.

all the things she said may be one of the most infamous examples of shock value, but even so, the amount of references, cameos and influence it’s had over the years is actually impressive

@erickessler7105

3 жыл бұрын

@tiny bubbles it was such a big hit. wwe victoria use it as her theme song in 2002-2003. i was in high school in early 00's when they were big. i bought a few of there cds. songs all things she said all about us not gonna get us. were my favorite songs of tatu. hear this song all time on siriusxm pop2k channel.

Who remembers when this was Victoria’s theme song in WWE?

@erickessler7105

3 жыл бұрын

@user a i do back in 2002-2003. i got ton old wwe ppv dvds from 2002-2003. also was in high school when they were big. mtv play music videos trl back then. also hear 2002 all things she said on siriusxm pop2k channel. which is channel for pop hits from 00-09. it was good theme song for victoria in 2002-2003.

“While begging her baby to hit her one more time”, I pictured two very different scenarios in my head when he phrased it like that. A baby literally slapping her and bdsm. People actually thought t.A.T.u. were lesbians, years after it came out that it was fabricated. Some of my classmates from middle school and high school thought they were really a couple.

Ah, I was just about to ask about the re-upload. Thanks for the explanation in the description box.

This is a really great video! Most t.A.T.u. videos I find have a lot of misinformation or fail to see them as individual people in terms of their views and all that, plus some of them don't even mention their producer at all. I think in terms of the history of t.A.T.u. and their controversies over the years, this is the most complete and accurate video out there, great job!

And yet, they remain the most famous Russian girl group, internationally. I’m Russian and listen to Russian pop on occasion. There is some good stuff there but nothing as iconic as Tatu.

@czystekurestwo

3 жыл бұрын

100%, there was depth to the music and the concepts they chose in their music. It was so much more than the gimmicky lesbian shtick!

Good thing I read the description.

The early 2000s music that was considered super racy then is pretty tame compared to today’s hits . Like imagine if 34+35 came out then .

We need a video of fiona apple or emilie autumn that how the industry treated these two women very unfairly for touching very delicate subjects in their songs

@yojannieverromerosifuentes195

3 жыл бұрын

@Crispy Barbie why not emilie tell me more pls??

@yojannieverromerosifuentes195

3 жыл бұрын

@Crispy Barbie thank's :)

@auandaily

3 жыл бұрын

I like Fiona Apple. Her creativity is very great.

@FlyingWinegum

3 жыл бұрын

Emilie is not a great role model. Not to me, and I’m afraid that many have walked the same route as I did ten years ago. When I was 15, she actually encouraged my depression instead of making me feel better about it. Enchanted and Opheliac are still albums that I enjoy, but lyrics like The art of suicide... Maybe it was me being prone to this kind of music, but it didn’t help at all.

Dude in Russia we all knew that they were not lesbians

You all kids are way too young to remember how iconic these 2 became

@whatthehellisthis

3 жыл бұрын

i definitely am lol

@denisenova7494

3 жыл бұрын

Nope.

@damondefranco

3 жыл бұрын

I'm 33. lol

@MikeOfMichigan

3 жыл бұрын

@Idk giving a bad name? They did a lot of good. While it was an act or not, tatu gave me someone to look up to as a teenager. They delivered bops, and were waving the flag of acceptance long before it became popular in 2011 when we were flooded with born this way, firework, we are who we are type music. They were incredibly ahead of their time, and while the origins of the group had dark roots, they did a lot of good. After leaving their producer they participated in marches for gay rights and were pelted with eggs, beer bottles, water etc. Yulia took a weird turn into homophobe-land, but Lena still stands with the community. Melissa Etherage once said she didn’t care that it was an act, the fact that they could take a queer message and use their fame to push that despite they themselves not being lesbians, in the end it’s a triumph for the gay community regardless. They took an unfortunate situation of exploitation and did great things with it. No matter how homophobic Russia becomes, they will forever have to live with their biggest musical export being about as gay as it gets, and I love that lol

@each6002

3 жыл бұрын

@Idk have you listened to any of the albums, fucking gay war anthems, gay bops, and social commentary left and right, man! They kick so much ass!

Your videos are so calming like seriously.. idk if it's your voice or the way you edit your videos but it feels so nice to watch and/or listen to them.

im a little late to this video but phenomenal, concise coverage. you covered everything SO well!

Omg.... 2000's times ♡

Omg I'm early, and I've always loved this band!

OMG I WAS WAITING FOR THIS 😍😍😍

I love a good ol’ nostalgic TATU video by you

Lena is a fantastic ally of the LGBTQ+ community and I’m glad she never disappointed us. Unfortunately Yulia post-2014 was still profiting off the hot lesbian act - check her song ‘Didn’t Want to Do It’. However, knowing the actual legal challenges people face in Russia and allied nations, their debut may be even more relevant now than it was back then. It’s an iconic song and it actually helped break barriers, even here in Western Europe. It helped us to confront issues we were only just starting to confront.

Omg my 12 year old self absolutely LOVED that song. Bought their album & everything. And yea I totally remember their fake lesbian scandal lol.

These girls were my life when I was a kid. I was soooo depressed and related to the music so much. As an adult, it’s honestly sad what they did to these young teenagers... I don’t think they had even made their first true kiss

your channel is so good

Duuude!!! That's my childhood right here! With love from Russia ❤️

I still play their songs still! Love it!

thank you for making this video!!! I never knew any of this obviously as a very young kid in the early 00s. I still think about secretly watching the all the things she said mv behind my parents backs as one of my earliest "queer awakening moments" and though it is very disappointing to find out that it was all a gimmick it so important to unpack the elements of exploitation of minors/hypersexualization of lgbt youth for the male gaze and the inherent homophobia that lies within that sort of "marketing". This was very eye opening!!

Watching your last video on t.A.T.u got me addicted to their music

You need to speak Russian To understand how big and nostalgic t.A.T.u. is. I always have goosebumps listening to them and saddened by what happened to Yuliya's voice.

@czystekurestwo

3 жыл бұрын

Or be Eastern European haha, I’m polish and I’m such a fan!

@austinsanders-983

Жыл бұрын

Sorry, what does ''speaking Russian'' have to do with understanding how big T.A.T.U. is?

@mommasaiddontwatch2muchyoutube

Жыл бұрын

@@austinsanders-983 you need to see it through Russian-speaking post Soviet culture's perspective

@austinsanders-983

Жыл бұрын

@@mommasaiddontwatch2muchyoutube Okay.

Dangerous and Moving is a great album.

Love your channel

One of the best pop songs ever produced! The way the base descents two octaves during the second verse is just so beautiful... and then the industrial beat kicks in and AAALL THE THINGS SHE SAAAAID!!! ♥️

I loved this song and group when I was younger but to find out how young they were and how sexualised they were makes me feel so disgusted and uncomfortable....

As a Russian I can say: 1. They didnt kiss each other in this clip it was montage work 2. They received letters from LGBT fans saing that this two girls saved their lives. As Lena Katina said, it was fake but it was based on stories of real woman. So nothing wrong with it

@alexeyborodavkin3809

2 жыл бұрын

@Shyandre it is motage. Lena told tgat in recent interview

omg thank you for this video i’ve been wondering wtf this was

I was blasting all the things she said at the beach this past summer living my FANTASY. Songs still iconic.

@erickessler7105

3 жыл бұрын

@beautilusious me too! even wwe victoria theme song in 2002-2003. also i hear it on my siriusxm pop2k channel. which plays pop hit songs from 00-09. also i was in high school in early 2000's when they were big. i bought a few of there cds. from 2002 also 2005. also 2006 best of tatu cds. great song. i have old wwe ppv dvds from 2002-2003. i hear it when victoria was in those matches in wwe dvds. back in ruthless agression era.

Please make a video about Poppy

In 2007, the girls released a statement: "Many of our fans of alternative sexual orientation thought that we lied and betrayed them. This is not true! We've never done that and we always advocated for love without boundaries." They may have been "actors playing a role" but the message is what was most important. As controversial as they are, T.A.T.u changed many people's lives, including mine. I'm so glad they existed for a short time.

It was a year 2000. I was 10 years old kid. First time seeing their spot of "Not gonna get us" and then "All the things she said". I knew back then they are going to be my favorite band for life. 20 years passed already and I still love them. Nostalgia here I come. t.A.T.u. 4ever ❤️

@tataludwiczka8061

Жыл бұрын

Twenty one years have passed. Every time I hear the rain hitting the umbrella they run through my head. Happy, eternally young and joyful. Without all that life has brought later.

I thought this was a reupload until i read the description lol

"All The Things She Said" is a classic !

I thought you covered this group already?.. Nonetheless still watching cause these be interesting

Very mature of you to remake with the revisited perspective. Thank you

@indieflopqueen

3 жыл бұрын

wait what did he say b4?

@indecisive.dice.roll.325

3 жыл бұрын

@@indieflopqueen I don't exactly remember, and he deleted the video, but he talked about more about how they were "gay for pay" and in this video he talks more about _why_ they were gay for pay. He also called the girls 14 but they were actual 16 in the "All the Things She Said" music video

okay revisted perspective 😌✨

12 year old me was BOPPING to their songs in 2004.

For anyone who loves this song, Poppy released a cover of the song earlier this year, you can check that one out too 🥰

@denisenova7494

3 жыл бұрын

It's terrible

@sammymanthaha2

3 жыл бұрын

@@denisenova7494 lol

idk why but seeing u talk abt tatu made me really happy ahaha (ps; stream not gonna get us asf

Damn i’ve been listening to tatu for a while now this video is perfect timing with that! :D

We need a RINA SAWAYAMA VIDEO!!!

BLESSED US WITH AN UPLOAD

Fun fact: All About Us was written by The Veronicas.

I'm honestly so obsessed with all the things she said it's just so iconic

@sadboistorm2588

3 жыл бұрын

listen to poppy’s version instead! 🖤

Ngl I’m one of the ones who felt really disappointed when I learned the truth.

Can you do a video on Rosalía? It’s very interesting how she is reinventing pop music

@brianajohnson4425

3 жыл бұрын

Yess! Thats a great idea because she needs wayyyyyy more hype!

@caramelle0191

3 жыл бұрын

I thought you said Roselia at first and I started freaking out thinking I found another fan 😭😭

@cheetosan

2 жыл бұрын

@@caramelle0191 EYYYYY

I still listen to all the things you said to this day, also they have an amazing russian song that i dont know the name of 😅

This takes me back

The video was like this, because it is the theme of the song. Even in russian it´s about a girl, who fell in love with another girl. After the video the whole world interpreted, that these two girls have to be in a relationship because there absolutely couldn´t be another option. Their manager sensed that pretty early and made a whole story out of it. Then these two were forced to admit that they had a relationship until Yulia got pregnant and the lie was pretty obvious. Not to forget these two were 14 and 13 when they started, 15 and 14 when the video was shot and the song "Ya soshla s uma" got released in Russia and they where 18/17 when "All the things she said" was released worldwide. They were extremely vulnerable and easy to influence by their manager

Whoever sees this, have a great day and stay blessed 💕

I would cry to this in high school omg. never really looked into them other than that song but wow. I hope they're okay now.

Man, tatu was the sexual awakening for me back in middle school. I was questioning myself back then, i have always been gay, but don’t know what i am or what i look for. But when All the thing she said came out, i knew what i am and what i want. I was crushed when i learnt that they were faking it. So crushed.

You might be not wrong, but your analysis is quite too 2020. I grew up in Russia with their music at their early days of 2000 and I remember how they were welcomed to industry. In fact it’s crazy to understand, but the Soviet legacy of law making mens’ homosexuality illegal was abolished only in 1993, just 6 years before Tatu! In 90s, many Russian artists (male and female) played with this theme in their music and videos to „celebrate“ the new freedom of minds after USSR, but no one had courage to show it openly - to kiss. Even in Russia ppl knew that weren’t real lesbians. They were marketed to the public of their own age (14-18yo), teens who haven’t defined their sexuality yet! That’s why it wasn’t watched as „dirty“ - everyone experimented in their teen years. Listen to lyrics in “Malchik Gay” - it talks about girl being attracted to a gay man, strange to be sung by “lesbians”? And believe me, if you’ve watched 1-2 early untranslated interviews (2000-2001), you’d understand they weren’t forced at all (and they confirmed it years after separation with Ivan). Girls were quite on the same boat with Ivan, they wanted people to react more, see how far they can push people’s boundaries. They didn’t expect business to go further than Russia and its neighborhood. Watch their Kremlin performance in 2001. Their producer asked them to show THE kiss, because Kremlin is a political residence of Putin (even if back in that time he didn’t care at all about LGBTQ+) Their image made them special and gave more sense to their songs. The beautiful story of 2 girls loving each other and protesting against the society for their love were more important and powerful than their real uninteresting and basic lives (of straight girls).

I could have swore I seen this video before lol

@steffenking9000

3 жыл бұрын

As soon as I saw it I'm like, wait, didn't he do speak on them not so long ago?

@Cookiesr4life

3 жыл бұрын

Yall are right. He explained everything in the description. Its basically reexplaining everything while adding more info and now he has a different perspective

just few hours ago i randomly came across their music videos after years of not seeing it

I used to love listening to "all the things she said" and "not gonna get us" 🙌🏼back then I was 15