Continuing this China vs Russia video series by making a video about: T90AM vs Type 99A/A2

@zhuravl-m2285

4 жыл бұрын

ZTZ-99A would kick the shit out of T-90M

@icetea8946

4 жыл бұрын

@@zhuravl-m2285 T-90m or T-90ms? NOPE.

@zhuravl-m2285

4 жыл бұрын

@@anushmikael2540 Nah T-90M is a good tank, but the ZTZ-99A is legendary

@zhuravl-m2285

4 жыл бұрын

​@@PumpkinEater-dm1xx It is not confirmed T-90M Proryv-3 uses 2A82-1M, and if it does then it must use a slightly weaker version of the 2A82 on the T-14. This is provable with a simple check of google images. Most likely, it just uses even more modernized version of 2A46M-5. China has developed a better gun for the ZTZ-99A too (basic ZTZ-99 and ZTZ-96A/B still use original ZPT-98 gun), which is more powerful, accurate, and reliable than both original ZPT-98 and 2A46M-5 guns (accuracy is proven in tank biathlon of 2018, will be proven again this year). It can penetrate 960mm+ RHA at 2000m, which is only slightly less than what 2A82 on T-14 can penetrate (1000mm RHA at 2000m). A test at closer ranges found that it can penetrate 1040mm+ of steel, so that proof that it is a very capable gun in terms of firepower. So while 2A82-1M found on T-14 is better than new ZPT-98 version, it won't be better by that much. The gun on the T-90M will at most be roughly equal to the new ZTZ-99A gun in terms of power, but what the gun of ZTZ-99A really excels in is accuracy. And the gun isn't everything that matters. It is pretty much a fact that ZTZ-99A has extremely high protection levels against APFSDS and HEAT at the front (but not the sides). It is completely covered by FY-4 and FY-5, both of which are comparable (or slightly superior) to Relikt ERA. So even if T-90M has a marginally more powerful gun, it won't matter when ZTZ-99A has extremely powerful ERA plus extremely strong passive composite armor underneath the ERA (you can find pictures of ZTZ-99A without ERA online, and it is comparable to Leopard 2A5). And this combination of composite armor plus ERA far exceeds what 2A82-1M is capable of penetrating at most engagement ranges, let alone whatever gun is on T-90M. The T-90M, however, only has the Relikt ERA to rely on. The hull armor is still the same as T-72B, and the turret armor is only marginally better (at most) than T-90A. In any case, ZTZ-99A will be able to penetrate and destroy a T-90M frontally at a farther distance than the T-90M is able to penetrate the ZTZ-99A frontally. However, in terms of urban combat, T-90M has the edge because of having Relikt ERA on the side turret and hull, whereas ZTZ-99A has all it's ERA focused on the front and turret side. Another thing is FCS, imaging systems, sights, electronics, etc. The ones on ZTZ-99A are extremely sophisticated and modern, and RedEffect has a video on this (video describing Chinese tanks). While those on T-90M are definitely very much upgraded and modern, my bets are that the ones on ZTZ-99A are still better. ZTZ-99A also completely trumps T-90M in terms of mobility. However, both ZTZ-99A and T-90M are very modern and capable tanks, and both are either better or at least equal to the latest tanks used by NATO. And, both ZTZ-99A and T-90M are definitely less capable than the next-generation T-14. So let's hope all three tanks fight alongside each other, rather than against each other :)

@jesusf.2600

4 жыл бұрын

@@zhuravl-m2285 REALLY? SINCE WHEN? WHERE HAS IT PROVEN THAT?

Either way, I love watching these two during Tank Biathlon.

@defencebangladesh4068

4 жыл бұрын

yes

@zixinxia194

4 жыл бұрын

yes

@JohnSmith-wj3mr

3 жыл бұрын

yes

@karlzzzyzz

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

1:43 I don't know whether can you read Chinese, but that passage is about the armor of t96b, not the penetration of its ammo. It says without ERA, the newly designed turret armor is 600-650 vs KE and 750-800 vs HEAT.

@pechorin5842

5 ай бұрын

@@introboy1 There are two ways you can know how to prounce Chinese character: 1. Through Pinyin system, which is basically a Latinized Chinese system. 2. Be familiar with the prounciation of some basic Chinese character then you will know the prounciation of its more complex variants. For example, both 然 and 燃 is prounced ran。 However this method is not always reliable.

@AK-104

5 ай бұрын

@@introboy1 OCR works well, as does searching the characters by its radicals

1:39 they're actually talking about the effective thickness of the tank against different ammunition

@76456

2 жыл бұрын

he even made a video of Russian tanks armour

The T-72 MS has a thermal camera and virtually all modern improvements have been taken from the T-90.

The type 96 is pretty impressive all things considered. Chinese might lack innovation but they make good use of what they can obtain.

@devastatermir372

5 жыл бұрын

I have seen footage of Type 96B firing on the move at Russian Tank biathlon & It absolutely smokes the T-72B3 which had to stop & then fire.

@the80386

5 жыл бұрын

'chinese lack innovation' - the arrogant and nonsensical myth being repeated like parrots by certain americans and indians upon realizing that the chinese have already outclassed them in many ways.

@nks406

5 жыл бұрын

@@the80386 Thats the truth. When it comes to engineering almost everything they produce domestically is copy pasta reverse engineered or license built. The only area where they achieved significant innovation is programming and software creation.

@nks406

5 жыл бұрын

@@john48rice84 Yes the chinese also had a better version of the t-55, the type 59 just like they have a better version of the t-72 now. The thing is, while the type 59 was in service the russians were fielding t-72 and t-80. Now that the type 96 is in service russians have T-90 and T-14.

@pingyuchen871

5 жыл бұрын

Indeed, many of Chinese military equipment are based on existing foreign versions. But truth is usually you can copy little more than the idea itself. Chinese designers need to build their own version based on the technology they already have. So I guess in many cases "re-design" might be a more suitable word?

1:43 actually states the protection value of the turret tested against the gun, not the gun's penetration ps: love it when ppl actually covers our tank. i know chinese is a hard language to translate and im happy to contribute

@calzhao6694

5 жыл бұрын

if anyone is interested in what the 1:42 document says in Chinese: (first paragraph) The all new designed type 96's main armour's protection value has been increased significantly compared to earlier models. When fired upon by the 105mm cannon and H13 atgm on the live firing range, the frontal turret protection is 550mm for ap and 650 for heat, and it meets the requirements of the military. (second paragraph) The composite and angled add-on armour of the 96a tank's protection capability is an upgrade of the type 96. has 600 to 650mm against ap and 750 to 800 against heat, and it is enough to match up against surrounding countries' deployed MBTs' HEAT FS and APFSDS.(end)

Interesting like usual. bravo👍👍🔥

Lol love the format, first time i see something like this

8:05 That ending track is my favorite. Also, you should do a Tank Arena comparing the American M1 Abrams vs the British Challenger 2. I'm curious how the two would compare.

@icetea8946

5 жыл бұрын

I honestly think the challenger 2 is a superior tank .

@baroooga6787

4 жыл бұрын

@@icetea8946 remember challanger 2 does not use smoothbore gun it only use rifled gun smoothbore are more superior than rifled

Bloddy awesome this channel 🤘

Should add ergonomics and economics to the categories as well, great video too.

Wrong citation was made. The Chinese document you used is about the protection of type96 and 96A

@monkeylee4818

4 жыл бұрын

無語的南風 but is should be the same, the difference between 96A and 96B is only the smaller road weals and some other small modifications

@Gongolongo

4 жыл бұрын

@@monkeylee4818 they redid the composite cheeks and new ERA.

@zixinxia194

4 жыл бұрын

Type-96B only have a engine upgrade compare to Type-96A

@ennassingletooth359

3 жыл бұрын

Fy-4 is reverse engineering from Kontakt-5 not Relikt 3rd gen ERA, in the 90s the Chinese bought T-80Us and thus from there Type 96A born, Relikt ERA first appearance in 2006 with T-72B2 Rogatka same year as Type 96B

@jasonw1575

3 жыл бұрын

@@ennassingletooth359 what no...the type96 was based on the type 85 which was a brand new design, the only component with russian blood was the cannon

I wish we knew more about the Black Eagle. It would be fun how it would stack up against the winner.

Fire control is more than just thermals. 96B is image stablized and T72B3M is not. 96B is much better at firing on the move.

@stilpa1

3 жыл бұрын

Nope, thats chinese BS

@IceAxe1940

9 ай бұрын

​@@stilpa1"nuh uh!!" isn't a good answer try again.

@stilpa1

9 ай бұрын

@@IceAxe1940 there is a reason noone boight Type-96, it is just a copy of T-72A with Chinese domestic ERA and FCS. That is not bad, still better than most NATO tanks but against T-72B3M not really

@IceAxe1940

9 ай бұрын

@@stilpa1 Alright I apologize if I came off very agressive it's just that alot of people when dealing with military vehicles especially Main Battle Tanks are very stubborn when it comes to which tank is the "Best" or not.

@stilpa1

9 ай бұрын

@@IceAxe1940 definetly, I agree with you. Not only MBTs, politics and war related things such as equipment is never argued about civilly.

HI Red , love your videos ,,, I am a modern tank guru ,,, May I ask where your getting these KE and CE protection estimates from for most the tanks ? I know most NATO is classified and only estimated and export models are ofcourse known , but where are we getting these estimates for on the popular tanks such as the Abrams m1a2 (none export) Challengers , T90s ,, type 10 etc etc

K2 Black Panther vs Type 10

@fabio6170

5 жыл бұрын

No match for K2

@OmarSlloum

5 жыл бұрын

Lol I made the exact same comment a month ago

@Gongolongo

5 жыл бұрын

@@fabio6170 Type 10 is a light tank. K2 is made to fight large numbers of inferior tanks.

@inouelenhatduy

5 жыл бұрын

Fabio depend , the type10 have better round , the k2 have better armor in it basic version , but if the type 10 used it heavy armor package then it will be the same + Korean weapon on paper look great , but there many problem , cause Korean is well know to have corruption in it politic and company , the k9 during the dual with north korea arty show it weakness , fail to counter the north korea arty which it was creat to do so , korea claim it destroy the Korean arty but the photo show that the shell land short of the firing place of the north Korean arty and the north korea arty was all move befor the counter shell land * this is during the north korea bombard of south korea island ) korea weapon is great , but it not like what they show on the paper , the paper stat of Korean weapon are the best stat not the normal stat , about Japanese weapon , we will never know they stat cause they never show any information or we have seen them in action . but one thing is sure type10 and k2 are all top dog in modern tank

@gegegec

4 жыл бұрын

@@inouelenhatduy think about guns. Type 10 is still restricted by 120/44. It also doesnt have upgun project.

Can you do one on the Leclerc vs Challenger please ? I really appreciate those videos.

Nice video like always (it's becoming an fact!) Can you make a video on/with the french Leclerc? Thanks you! Attempts n*9

@xAlexTobiasxB

5 жыл бұрын

Ok let's get this done with. Leclerc in a nutshell: + good fire control with excellent optics and digital combat system + commander's own independent thermal viewer for situational awareness + very fast autoloader for rapid firing + fast speed, good mobility + digital battle managetment for better situational awareness for the commander + separate ammuntion bunker with blow-out panels in the back of the turret + can be fitted with extra add-on armor on the sides for increased side protection Overall I would say a very powerful and capable tank, with very strong offensive capabilities, especially when fitted with the add-on armor (such as in the UAE) it is a good tank.

@patriotic3123

5 жыл бұрын

@@xAlexTobiasxB Hi! Sorry if you don't like this comment on his video but you know there is some freedom in France/Germany :-). Just kidding. Thanks you for trying to help me. I just have to underline the point about the armor. The leclerc serie1/2 have an armor at the level of the challenger2 and the leclerc SXXI have an armor at the level of the leopard2a5 on the turret(due to tungsten). So it's not a big weak point.. Still yhanks you for trying to answer me! Have a good day.

@xAlexTobiasxB

5 жыл бұрын

@@patriotic3123 Tungsten is nothing really special, most APFSDS penetrators are made of Tungsten as well (some are even made of Depleted Uranium), so it's nothing special. The swedish tank trials in 1998 have proven that the turret armor of the early Leclerc was more vulnerable than the Leopard 2A5 (but still equal to the M1A2 Abrams). Yes, the new SXXI upgrade may have improved the protection a little bit further. So yes I agree the latest Leclerc model may not have bad armor protection.

@patriotic3123

5 жыл бұрын

@@GBR9794 true for the commender and the gunner (even if the commender have still a great protection). However the hull is very like the challenger2: almost nothing on the lower front plate but a very good composite armor over it in the uper frpnt plate

@xAlexTobiasxB

5 жыл бұрын

@@GBR9794 ​The Leclerc's hull front has a very thick composite armor "block" at the middle section (peak) where the lower hull front and upper glacis meet. The upper glacis where the driver sits has less thickness, however it is very good angled at 80° (which is almost horizontal) so it still has good Line Of Sight (LOS). This is what it could look like: i.imgur.com/7rVe7zN.jpg But the driver's hatch is still a weak spot (like in any other tanks though). For example, in the Yemen war, one UAE Leclerc tank was hit and penetrated in the driver's hatch by an ATGM, resulting in the death of the driver and injuries to the legs of the commander. (but this would have happened to any tank without APS

This is a good video! Military 101 crew aproves!

@itsdimitriymedvedyev

5 жыл бұрын

indeed :)

why did you stop the series

3:18 What is Thales component doing inside the tank?

Challenger 2 vs Abrams episode 3. Please! :)

Make a video about the m60 patton vs t 72

hay dude...ur channel is awesome.... since ur very little or don't bias any tank where are you from?

Can you compare the T-72B2 with the T-72B3 ?

Love it

Nice nice ill say another good video is t90ms/m vs type 99 or type 99 vs type 10/X

Make a video about NoKor tanks, please?

@ignorantethan656

2 жыл бұрын

overglorified T-62s

M1 A2 sep v3 against challenger 2 black night

@Hyper_1989

5 жыл бұрын

M1A2 100% of the time)))

@CallsignYukiMizuki

5 жыл бұрын

It's those dang Belkans again!

@warmbreeze7996

5 жыл бұрын

#BelkaDidNothingWrong Belka will return back it's stolen lands after ace combat 3 events

@warmbreeze7996

5 жыл бұрын

you can have half

@warmbreeze7996

5 жыл бұрын

how could i nuke myself a second time if osea try to invade me again?give you half no more.

The t72b3 and b3m are different tanks, I read and actually saw a t72b3m with a commander panoramic sight so may someone can clarify this to me....I'm a little confused now

no category for battlefield intelligence/awareness?

And about the engine part, that accusation of reverse engineering is even more of a bullshit, they're very different in their architectures.

What is the machine you use to choose tanks?

@RedEffectChannel

5 жыл бұрын

I will let everyone know when I am done comparing the tanks

Can you compare T-72 B1MS and VT-4 please?

@harbharby3082

5 жыл бұрын

It wouldn't be a fair match. VT-4 is way heavier (52 tonnes vs ~42 tones), and way more modern as it entered production in 2014. With a longer barreled gun (50 caliber instead of 48 caliber), more modern ammunition, superior fire control systems (modern fire control computers, thermal imaging, hunter-killer fire control, and muzzle reference sensors), a more powerful 1300 horsepower diesel engine, and a much heavier armor suite, the VT-4 would be too much more than a match against T-80U and all T-72 variants

It is suggested that type-96b has nera instead of era on the turret for the purpose of protecting infantry.

Can anyone tell me what music is used in this video?

Is this inspired by Doug Demoro at all?

Another great video. Please keep in mind when comparing mobility not to forget about reverse speed, may be less important but still a factor

Lets remember the production availability and price of each unit

Should also factor in cost of production, less cost means more tanks

@ruslannailevich

5 жыл бұрын

Could be tricky since most T-72b3 are not produced from scratch, but are modernized T-72b produced back in Soviet times

Please make video about olifantmk2 tank

Leopard2a6 vs challenger 2 please

Hey U make a Mistake in 1:42 It is referring to the Armor equivalent Installed of on a Penetration.And the armored equivalent is on the original type 96 .

do a tank arena with the M1 abrams and leopard 2

One thing that I think is worth mentioning is that type 96b isn't technically "accepted" by the PLA. The 96b appears in the russia competition is rather a "prototype"-ish version that built solely for the competition. The final version that PLA might equip(this is actually doubtful considers the mass production of ztz-99a and ztl-15 light tank) is still under testing and may delivers it's first batches in the future three years.

Make a one about Japanese Type 10 and T 90

How do you know FY-4 is reverse engineered? Development details of the FY series are well-kept series, and not even people in China know much.

With respect, "protection" is not only the armor value of the tank, although it does matter alot, you also have to consider other aspects, such as mine protection, and top bottom armour, is it suceptible to cluster muntions?, is it capable of protecting itself against rpgs to the back of the vehicle?, that is also something to be considered. Survivability is also not so in depth, you can go to crew spacing, fire extinguishing system, and maybe NBC system, all helps the tank to survive in attacks. Or you just didn't have time to do it all in depth....

@inouelenhatduy

5 жыл бұрын

all modern tank have NBC + NBC wont be a matter really , cause no one is stupid enough to used nuke now day .

@False_Saint

5 жыл бұрын

@@inouelenhatduy 1 very important question: WHAT IF, NBC doesnt only protect the crew from nuclear radiation, it also protects against bio weapons, chemical agents that could be potentially harmful. Sure all tanks have NBC but every aspect of it can be improved as nuclear, biological and chemical weapon gets even more advanced than bacteria, virus, or a nerve agent, if the NBC cant defend against these threats the tank crew will be ded.

@Longerbow

4 жыл бұрын

Fair point though, I remember someome stating that when hulldown the Challenger 2, Leo 2a5/6/7 and M1a1/2 are virtually indestructible..... however Abrahams crews always complained about their tanks having thin roof armour. Also there are numerous rumours that the Leo 2s have relative weak side armour to keep the weight below 70 tons to retain their high mobility.

4:05 LOL... What is the source of this information? WAR THUNDER?

@Kalashnikov413

3 жыл бұрын

the fact that WT has far lower armor thickness specs (around 400mm-ish), i'd say he's War Thunder wasn't his source of info

the maximum width of a main battle tank should be regulated (worldwide) to a specific set width . . . especially the track width . . . the regulated fixed width of the tank will be the same or less than the width of the tank transporter trailer payload base . . . the track width of a tank (or any main battle tank for that matter) won't exceed the width of the tank transporter trailer regardless . . . most tanks these days when being transported on a trailer, the tracks protrude out from the side of the trailer due to the tank's excessive width . . .

which tank is the best value for the cost?

@priustheboring7750

4 жыл бұрын

Ztz96 cause it cost 3million yuan only

@jerryle379

2 жыл бұрын

Depend export version is more expensive then domestic ; B3 export is much cheaper same for upgrade

Stating it as the b3m would be wrong because the t-72b4(also called b3m) does actualy have integrated CITV

1:40 the document is talking about armor protection, not penetration.

K2 Black Panther vs Leclerc plz

@1:49 that kinda looks like somebody’s garage floor

@alexusmc2384

2 жыл бұрын

Lol imagine finding an Apfsdsfsdsmfhd in a garage

Video about ztq-15 now comrade.

So underrated channel,one of the best tank channels on youtube Veliki poz brate i radi nes sa Britanskim Chalanger 2,ako oces stavi ga protiv Armate da bi ispao slab xD

96 should have gained more points for survivability because it has distantly controlled mg

@jerryle379

2 жыл бұрын

Type96b beat B3 easy ; it new and not upgrade from old hull ; electronic the Chinese are ahead of Russia ; same for thermal + fcs ; the west tend to think china lower then Russia but china now have surpass Russia in many field in weapon tech

@koluj192

2 жыл бұрын

@@jerryle379 +15 social credit

@socialist_elmo

Жыл бұрын

@@koluj192 +10 social credit

I think you rate era a little too much when it comes to armor. In a sense you could throw era on any tank and say that it is armored, even though many tanks do not have the necessary welded studs to put the era on but ya I still feel you rated armor too high, Maybe separate category for additional equipment on tank or sometin really dank like that .. spanks

what we reverse- engineered is Soviet tech not Russian ones which are quite obsolete

Next Type-10 vs ZTZ-99?

@harbharby3082

5 жыл бұрын

It wouldn't be a fair match. Type 10 is a 40-ton mbt, almost 20 tonnes lighter than the Type 99, particularly the latest Type 99A variants. One is a medium MBT designed to survive in cityscape fights and endure mostly infantry mounted weapons, while the other is designed to fight on the vast hard terrain against enemy mbts on a head-on battle.

@Gongolongo

5 жыл бұрын

Type 10 is a light tank. You might want to compare to the Type 90.

@zhuravl-m2285

4 жыл бұрын

@@Gongolongo ZTZ-99A will crush the Type 90, which has not seen much upgrades since its introduction.

Overall Aesthetics, Type 96B2 looks like a sexy beast, kinda like a tank sports car. It has a very sleek and clean look and looks really good. Meanwhile the T-72B3 looks like cookie sheet with an upside down fryingpan strapped to it. In order to improve protection, they strapped boxes of ERA all over it, causing to look very ugly. So, the final score, the Type 96B2 gets 100 points, while the T-72B3 gets 55 points.

@romanbuinyi

4 жыл бұрын

No, 100 points is given to the Leclrerc, Type 96 will probably receive 75-80 points.

Don't know what you expected from a tank from the 70s vs a tank from the 90s

@LanceCorpsman

5 жыл бұрын

Not true because t72 b3m was upgraded in the 2010s, Same with ztz 96b

@jamesmorgan3764

5 жыл бұрын

@@LanceCorpsman yes but the design can't be upgraded that much for example you can upgrade a t 34 to make it modern but it couldn't compare to a t90

VT-5 please

these tanks are great alternatives when you wanna maintain a large tank fleet and can't afford to equip state of the art tank to every army group. both of these countries don't have money to blow for their military, especially russia.

Similar tanks, hmm learned a bit there. Question though: do you believe the Chinese info or is it somewhat suspicious?

The protection of the Type 96B is seriously overstated, and China has serious problems with structural materials and the use of foreign components in its weapons control system. In particular the destruction of the chassis in case of overload and questionable effectiveness of armor. T-72B3 2016 uses not K-5, but a hybrid ERA its protection and stability are significantly higher than the original. This somewhat smoothes out the problem with the already clearly insufficient armor of the body's forehead and the old cast tower, in which the combined armor is replaced. But this is a consequence of the use of the original t-72B sample 1989. Thermal imagers used generation 2+, produced under a localized license Thales in Russia. Type 96B somewhat resembles object 187, the configuration of the reservation of the hull and tower. But this does not remove the problem of lack of necessary materials and lack of experience, not everything can be bought.

@elusive6119

5 жыл бұрын

​@Pommy PieIf you are referring to the use of VT-2 against Ukrainian export T-72M1 in South Sudan, then this is probably not just a coincidence)) The t-72B3 (2013) was occasionally used by the DLNR militia in Eastern Ukraine to repel neo-fascist battalions of Kiev after the coup, such as Azov and others. There met the old T-64B and T-72B, and upgraded t-64BM Bulat and T-72B3. Suffice it to say that the attack on the breakaway area choked. According to unconfirmed reports lost irretrievably two or three T-72B3, T-64B (originally more perfect than the T-72) were withdrawn by Ukraine to avoid the complete loss of these tanks. As shown by the direct collision even 2-3 T-72B3 able to stop 8-12 old T-64B or T-72A. Thanks to new sights, armor and ammunition. Two T-72B3 lost in Syria, captured by the enemy and then destroyed by government artillery. There are numerous video evidence not defeat the T-72B3 and t-90 1993 various modern ATGM. T-72B3 is initially more balanced and cheaper than the type 96, in addition, all its strengths and weaknesses are known, the main thing is to use it correctly. As the modernized T-72BM got Venezuela. Nicaragua and Laos T-72Б1МС. T-72B and T-90 / T-90S today is the most common, sold and used tank in the world.

@0411029

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks to the former teacher Russia for teaching China in past yrs. But please also admit that China is even stronger (except Nukes and Submarines by far) The fact that China has better SABOT/APFSDS than Russia. Thanks to the British technique of 105 L7 cannon and German tech, China produces a more powerful gun even at same 125mm cannon with Russia. China now enjoys the most advanced production system and technology not only the commercial but also the military by learning the core competence from western and russian/Ukraine. Yet what U.S. fears of China is the coming innovation and renovation of high-tech , like 5G overtaking and replacing the U.S..

@SparkySlow

5 жыл бұрын

Terry Lee China is copy cat

@Rssika

5 жыл бұрын

@@SparkySlow Well duh, anyone would copy if their technological base and knowledge was behind adversaries. Everyone copies, both us and soviets copied german missile designs. You improve by building upon established knowledge and there is nothing to be ashamed of about it.

@elusive6119

5 жыл бұрын

China is inferior to Russia in almost everything that concerns military technologies and experience of their use. China until recently lacked the necessary technology and not all can be bought. Yes, perhaps better than those that were in the USSR, 30 years ago. You gave the wrong examples, L7 is outdated in the late 70s. Rh120 was copied from 2A20. China has succeeded in Commerce, economy and modernization. I would warn you against direct use of technologies from Ukraine, they are incomplete and outdated for 30 years. But these data are invaluable as information about experiments and other things. Russia will be happy to buy Chinese equipment for the civil sector, the us is time to retire))

Pepsi vs beepis

Engine part is wrong. ztz96B has the 8 cylinder version of german MTV engine.

Until a gunner aims a little low and lolpens the weak lower hull of the 96B...

@Gongolongo

5 жыл бұрын

Someone plays too much War Thunder. Every tank had a lower glacis that everyone can lolpen. It's not easy to hit the lower plate irl and most crew will always hide it.

@CMDRFandragon

5 жыл бұрын

@@Gongolongo Oh sweet jesus, I definitely do not play Failthunder. I rank that game 1 step above a pile of dog shit, and side by side with World of Twats.

i just saw a Type 15

There is a difference between better tank and what tank would win. Keep that in mind.

@sanakhtthefatetwister9116

3 жыл бұрын

A tank with decent all round stats may get a higher stat than one with mediocre armour mobility etc. but very capable weaponry and fire control, but the second tank due to its powerful gun would win more times than not

T-72 b3 have termo

The best tank is the tank with the best crew. And we all know how well trained chinese conscripts are.

Me:t72 t80 t90 are just t50 tanks slapped with reactive armor Redeffect:

Take a shot every time you hear the word 'reverse engineered'.

Me like big tank

Way better than binkov

Your armor values for the T-72B3 are for the turret cheeks with no ERA attached and even go so far as to contradict ALL of your previous videos.

@RedEffectChannel

5 жыл бұрын

No, the information is good, it goes along with information from the trials from mid 80s when Soviets tested T-72B turret against M111 Hetz from captured Israeli tanks, the armor was rated at 530mm, and Kontakt-5, according to official NII Stali information, reduces penetration of APFSDS by 20%, hence we get the 650mm value. And I strive to improve with each video, that is why you will find less and less unreliable information in my videos, I used some unreliable sources in the past which gave higher values for T-72B3's armor.

@user-bi4wl2pn5n

5 жыл бұрын

@@RedEffectChannel And by "rated at" you mean what exactly that it will protect against rounds with 530mm or higher penetration or that its protection offered is equal to 530mm RHA? Also the T-72B's turret has better protection to either side of the gun where the composite inserts are at thier thickest while having less protection closer to the gun although this does not matter as the crew are seated behind the cheeks where the armor is thickest.

@user-bi4wl2pn5n

5 жыл бұрын

With a rounded turret you need to be specific as to what section you are measuring.

@RedEffectChannel

5 жыл бұрын

@@user-bi4wl2pn5n as rated I mean that is the RHAeq, and the Russian armor estimates are always taken for the area closest to the gun that has composite armor, the further you go from the gun the thicker the armor gets (in RHAeq). That is why I chose different color for the cheeks when representing the RHAeq in the video.

Vt4 vs t84

Is anybody trying to make electric tanks? That may be a new revolution?

T72 is still my pic

Thanks to the former teacher Russia for teaching China in past yrs. But please also admit that China is now even stronger (except Nukes and Submarines by far) The fact that China has better SABOT/APFSDS than Russia. (Due to perfect accuracy, was banned in Russian tank champion lol ) Thanks to the British technique of 105 L7 cannon and German tech, China produces a more powerful gun even at same 125mm cannon compared to Russia. China now enjoys the most advanced production system and technology not only the commercial but also the military by learning the core competence from western and russian/Ukraine. Yet what U.S. fears of China is the coming innovation and renovation of high-tech , like 5G overtaking and replacing the U.S..

@TwixSvK

5 жыл бұрын

Chinese have copied soviet cold war tech meant for mass production but russia is already shifting towards more high tech army

@0411029

5 жыл бұрын

Don’t be naive, it is all about money. Russia aren’t as rich as China.

@0411029

5 жыл бұрын

Israel is better just because u.s. supports it by sharing high tech weapon like f-35. Saudi and uae are more like india but not china. India depends on importing weapons. China has not only the money but also the comprehensive industrial and scientific foundations that enable Chinese to manufacture and design weapons they needed.

@0411029

3 жыл бұрын

Correct, some of the Chinese weapons were sent and sold to Pakistan and Africa to apply in real combat so China could modify its weapons nicely. I hope China need not to send their own troops to hurt any nations.

T72b3m dont use kontak-5 but relikt from what i know.

@inouelenhatduy

5 жыл бұрын

he talking about b3 not b3m lol

Turret T-72B3 830mm of KE, 1000 HE

@lukabogdanovic4658

3 жыл бұрын

Source ?

The type 96b is for sure the better tank.

Also the engine on type-96b is derived from ZTZ-99A which had a Germany gene in it.

这俩的炮控差的可不是这一点啊。。。。。不信你让T72B3M飚到30以上开炮看看？毛子死都不给坦克两项加动对动的项目，还缩了射击区长度，这还不够明显吗

"...150HB engine, which is a reverse-engineered Russian V92S2F..." Hahaha. Tell you what, when Chinese reverse engineered the engine, they forgot to reverse engineer 4 of 12 cylinders, which made the "copy version" only have 8 cylinders. That's why it only has 1000 hp instead of 1130 hp ! So stupid !

@siyujiang8567

5 жыл бұрын

Oh, they also didn't measure the cylinder stroke correctly. Turned out each cylinder is 10mm shorter than the original one! Even for reverse-engineering, they can't get it right!

Т72б3 have Relict in turret

Please 🇯🇵type10vs🇷🇺T-14!

No

Merkava vs muh Abroomz

@tiagomorais5415

5 жыл бұрын

Nasrallah can take out both just with his shoe

@tiagomorais5415

5 жыл бұрын

Nasrallah can take out both just with his shoe

@OmarSlloum

5 жыл бұрын

@@tiagomorais5415 idk the new M1a2sepv3 has the same Trophy APS as the Merkava, and as such no atgm's could reach it when the APS is activated. And the armor is also heavily increased on the turret, especially against chemical penetrators such as rpg's and atgm's. I don't think even the Kornet E missile could penetrate the turret of the m1a2sepv3, but the m1a3 hasn't been upgraded a lot yet so it might be slightly more vulnerable. And the merkava: no chance of getting through the turret, the hull is a weak spot though, so maybe that can wound some crew members. Long story short: don't get cocky and underestimate the Zionist tanks just because Hezbollah is good at anti-tank warfare. Their tanks are still the world's best (after the bob semple).

Numbers are great, but in reality, Type-96 repeatedly lost to T-72B3 in tank biathlon. After the 2nd loss, China ordered upgrades to Type-96 in order to achieve parity with Russian T-72B3 www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/185812/china-upgrading-type_96-tanks-according-to-tank-biathlon-experience.html Coming back for the 3rd year competition with new upgrades in Type-96B, China could not move up to 1st place, instead it fell to 3rd place behind Kazakhstan, and only managed to regain the 2nd place in 2018. Wiki sucks, but oh well; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_biathlon

@abovethecrowd9307

5 жыл бұрын

The tank biathlon took placed in Russia and Russia is known for rigging results, just look at the 2016 US election.

And also as a Chinese descendant we making fun with 96B's lower glacis keep being as huge as Challenger (

You should menotined that the Chinese tank lost 1 of its wheels during the games and that t72 is made in Russian that should give it +20 additional points

@Gongolongo

5 жыл бұрын

It lost a wheel after someone rammed them lol...

@zhuravl-m2285

4 жыл бұрын

It lost a wheel and still finished second in the competition. Russia took first place, but they literally always take first place anyway. So if anything, the fact that the Chinese tank still managed to come out on top even after losing a wheel, that is a testament to the machine's reliability. Want to see an example Russian tank mechanical failure, also in the competition? When India brought their T-90S tank to the competition, it broke down even without losing wheels. And their spare tank T-90 also broke down. While this year, the Iranian T-72B3 (borrowed to them for the competition only, Iran has only T-72S 'Shildon' in their army) caught on fire, for no particular reason. So which tank has bigger issues? Answer: none of them. Shit happens all the time. T-90S is not unreliable just because of one instance of failure (it probably had more to do with bad maintenance of the tanks) Also, ZTZ-96 (or maybe Type 85-IIM which is basically less capable ZTZ-96 prototype and for export only) operated by Sudanese army reportedly destroyed around four South Sudanese T-72AV or T-72M1, possibly T-72B in a major battle, while suffering no losses. The T-72s were ripped apart, although not surprising because they are older models with Kontakt-5 ERA to protect against APFSDS. But that is still tested in combat, with an untarnished reputation

Well about FCS watch this vid kzread.info/dash/bejne/c4qGu7Z-ldafhbA.html which is lethal on the battlefield

Not totally fair as T-72B3 is an upgraded late 80s tank. It’s more comparable to Type-96 not Type-96B.

Notice the Chinese have just stolen Russian equipment on there tanks

@harbharby3082

5 жыл бұрын

All is fair in love and war *le shrug* We aren't going to mention the German Rheinmetall 120mm on our Abrams either ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

@harbharby3082

5 жыл бұрын

@Usecriticalthinking Try it again with respect and without profanity, do use critical thinking before the hasty conclusions gets the better of you. And no, Rheinmetall L44 has nothing to do with America. When West Germany designed it, American designers are still in deep fond in the concept of tank-launched ATGMS from large caliber low chamber pressure guns from the MBT-70 project. When M1A1 Abrams got their licensed production M256 variant L44, Leopard 2 has been rocking with the L44 for 6 years. I am not denying that Chinese designers utilized reverse engineered products, but what I am trying to say is that when it comes to machines of war, tasked with defending national prosperity, betterment, or even survival, it isn't a matter of who copied who, it is a matter of getting the job done.

@woahholdyourcomment

5 жыл бұрын

Usecriticalthinking stupid arrogant fuck couldn’t tell the difference between licensed production and direct copying