I’ve always felt so horrible for bay…. Everyone fights over Daphne. Why does Bay get the raw end of the deal? Why? It’s so unfair to her! Daphne becomes so unlikeable. It’s so wrong to see how Bay was treated

@datsymorgan6493

Жыл бұрын

There was an episode where Daphne's real grandmother showed up and gave all of her attention to Daphne and treated Bay like she was inferior to her granddaughter

@Shayesbel87

Жыл бұрын

@@datsymorgan6493 I know :/ she even said like how she sees her differently now, how Puerto Ricans are statistically bad at school, like all this horrible stuff.

@princesskylaboo1414

8 ай бұрын

@@datsymorgan6493 Regina mom treats them equally

@iconicspot6787

8 ай бұрын

"Daphne unlikeable" lol you must've watched a different show. I swear the only person who is unlikeable is Bay but like Liam says its all about her.

@Kaylovescray

8 ай бұрын

@@iconicspot6787nah daphne became pretty unlikable

I've always tried to empathize with both Bay and Regina, though I'm not a mother. I get Regina did what she thought was best out of fear of losing the child she already bonded with and never getting the chance to meet the child she gave birth to, but what makes Bay's feelings SO valid and Regina's actions so hurtful is that, if you remember, before this conversation Regina kept her distance from Bay, didn't try to bond with her or know her, while the Kennishes DID THAT with Daphne. Bay felt that everyone preferred Daphne over her, and by this point in the story Regina knew they wouldn't take her daughters away, and they were grown enough to make their own choices even if the Kennishes tried it, so what gives?

@HollyShannen19

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Absolutely. That's what I'm talking about. She whines all the time : Oh I'm so hurt to be so far away from you all those years yet did absolutely nothing to get close to Bay when she has the chance and possibility without fear she's gonna lose her daughters.

@Wawagirl17

2 жыл бұрын

@@HollyShannen19 Agreed. The explanation she gave later in season 2 was that for so long she had to pretend that Bay didn't exist to make the situation hurt less, and so by the time they actually met each other when Bay was 15, it was difficult to undo all that. Which is somewhat understandable and sympathetic, but I really feel like a mature adult should work harder to deal with those issues and push past them for the sake of their child. It's not Bay's fault that Regina made a plethora of bad decisions.

@kierrajohnson9468

2 жыл бұрын

@@Wawagirl17 yes I 100% agree and on top of that Regina and Bay never really form a bond. The closest they ever get is the summer they live together but honestly most of the scenes they have together throughout the series are them arguing and it's annoying because that happens and then Regina gets upset because Bay is being honest about the fact that they barely have a relationship. Then she tells Bay that she will do better AND SHE NEVER DOES!

@dnaksndnirjddndbe2575

2 жыл бұрын

Guilt really sucks and it's honestly not Regina's fault. It's really hard to bond with someone like that when guilt is involved so you try to keep your distance. I think that Regina suffers from commitment issues after Angelo accused her of cheating. It's not her fault tbh it's the hospitals. Angelo is a victim too.

@lunabelletheinsane

2 жыл бұрын

@@dnaksndnirjddndbe2575 That's bullshit. It was at base the hospital's fault, but everything after Regina found out when the girl's were three is Regina's. She had multiple opportunities AFTER she moved into the guest house to repair her relationship with Bay and she never did. So she had commitment issues? So what? This isn't some guy she can dump at a later date if things don't work out, it's HER DAUGHTER. That she personally failed time and time again on her own accord. The fact that the hospital was at fault is irrelevant in all those situations because they didn't make Regina push Bay away once it was found out.

I understand both side. Regina was right by the time. The Kennish are hypocrite they would have took BOTH. But Bay is right to feel hurt. It really break my heart when she said « what about me » and it’s not a surprise that Bay is the first to understand Regina at the end. They always have a connection despite being apart. That’s why Daphné bacame jalous later.

@HollyShannen19

4 жыл бұрын

I don't think Keninishes are hypocrits. They took both girls in Ece Mono cause they were scared for their safety but I don't think it would be that way if she told the truth after being sober for couple of years and I don't think judge would give both to the Kennishes. I understand Regina wanted what's best for her daughters I really do. But as you said yourself - my heart breaks so much for Bay. And what bothers me is Regina's very little effort to get close to Bay even though Bay was indeed the first one to forgive her. Back to the Kennishes - Kathryn couple years later told Regina that she understands now why she did what she did. Both families wanted all the best for both girls, there's no doubt about that.

@Selenee77

4 жыл бұрын

Dachshund Mom I think she took time to get close to Bay because she felt insecure and guilty. But this is something I didn’t like on this show. They took time to développe their relationship beside their obvions bond.

@HollyShannen19

4 жыл бұрын

@@Selenee77 Yeah, I agree I dislike it too.

@AngelicMistyStorm

3 жыл бұрын

Dachshund Mom they took both girls in that episode because they were selfish and didn’t wanna share... lol

@sweetlife031

3 жыл бұрын

When did Bay forgive Regina? And I really think Regina's hesitation about getting closer to Bay was because of how John would've acted if she'd tried ...this is mirrored in the fight between Regina and John in 2x14…

But Regina was right... if she had come forward they would’ve taken both girls and never let her see them again. Hell John and Kathryn even say it to her face that they would have taken both of them away from her if she had.

@HollyShannen19

2 жыл бұрын

Cause they were pissed. And later she was sober for years, plus she could and should contact Angelo

@angelicalicari8355

Жыл бұрын

100%. Also, she's a single parent and she knew Bay had two parents- if they all had joint custody, she would have lost 2-to-1 on parenting decisions for the rest of their childhoods.

@sailorsister211

5 ай бұрын

​@@HollyShannen19 Honestly I dont think it would make difference if she was sober or not. She would still risk of losing both girls. Even in the episode, what if Regina came forward. They didnt even gave her a chance to get sober and file restraining order. Let the girls still get in touch with Adrianna. John was extremely pissed when he found out the girls went to find Regina. In other words her being sober didnt really matter. Even in the first episode, this was way before they knew that Regina knew and Regina has been SOBER for YEARS. They were very judgemental of her parenting skills and did threaten her to take full custody of Daphne. So it didnt really matter if Regina was sober or not. Regina could have never been an alcoholic and she would still would have risk of losing both girls. However it only matter if she was rich.

At around 0:36, Bay was right when she said “That makes it worse.” when Regina said she hired a private investigator that took many pictures of Bay and Regina constantly followed her around. Regina just described herself as a stalker.

Regina just wanted to keep both girls stable in the lives that they wee used to ❤️ In 2x15 we see exactly what Regina had been scared of if she had told right away...I think Regina knows that too many people jumping in and out of a child's life can confuse them or hurt them too 💔

Regina grew me and I think the reason I liked her so much is she’s the parent of a deaf child that I wish many of people in my community have but it shows the other person that irks me about her how I don’t really feel throughout the seasons, she tried to make a real connection with Bae the fact that you took pictures of her, but didn’t want your child back. That you finally get to be around her and you still are kind of ignoring her.

“Regina’s bullshit” 😂😂😂💀

@nicoledaniellemanning4492

Жыл бұрын

I know I love that 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Regina really did do what was best for her rather than what was right or what was best for the girls. She was terrified of losing one or both girls, but if it was what was best for the girls shouldn't that have been a risk worth taking? I mean the moment Regina knew Daphne wasn't her child and there was a questionable legality, the fact Regina knew this child wasn't the child she should have- wouldn't that make Daphne an abducted child? the moment Regina knew the truth. In those pictures wouldn't it have shown Bay's growing disconnection from the Kinneshs if Regina cared to look deeper than surface value of growing up? The show was meant to be about the lives of both girls; Daphne and Bay and the switch, but the show favoured Daphne over Bay. Daphne was the golden child everyone wanted and bonded with and made sure was doing well, while a lot of the time Bay was left on the outside looking in. The Kinnesh's and Regina started off in a tug of war for Daphne's attention and affection. Regina didn't really want to bond with Bay- who from the show looked to be trying to connect with Regina like Daphne was with Katheryn. Regina's attention was more on Daphne. Even when Regina did bond with Bay Daphne was still priority for both moms

The real truth here is there IS no good choice. Either she does nothing: Bay has a good upbringing and isn’t ripped away from her parents who raised her. Also Daphne, her instincts were right in that they would have tried to rip Daphne away from Regina. So both girls were protected that way. OR she reveals the truth: which means both girls and J&K missed out on so many years. There really wasn’t a perfect choice, either way someone is hurt. The girls would have been hurt either way. Probably better as teenagers when they are a little more stable. I think she chose the lesser of two evils.

Regina actually did the right thing. In the very first episode, John and Kathryn talk about taking both girls. They’re wealthier where people, Regina is a single mother living in poverty. Regina did what she thought she had to do to protect both girls. And I can’t blame her for that, it’s a complicated situation.

DachshundMom - Can you please upload Bay and Regina scenes from: • 1x16 - Bay goes to Regina for help and she helps redo the mural • 1x18 - Regina tells Bay about the wings art piece that she made when she found out where Bay was and Bay says it's beautiful ❤️ • 4x14 - learning colors in Spanish and: "Of course it matters...you're my mom..." Awww 💖 • 4x20 - Bay trying to reassure Regina when Eric flees yet again Thanks in advance! 😊🤗💕👍

@HollyShannen19

4 жыл бұрын

I'd love to but unfortunately I don't have those scenes. I made this vid by cutting parts from another one, sorry!

@sweetlife031

4 жыл бұрын

@@HollyShannen19 - Do you know anyone who does have these scenes? Or, can you find em from another video and make compilation like you did here?

@HollyShannen19

4 жыл бұрын

@@sweetlife031 I don't know anyone, I can try to find them but I can't promise anything.

It's no one's fault but the hospital's honestly. If they weren't switched at birth in the first place then it wouldn't be a problem for anyone. Regina also has a lot of guilt. Guilt is a really strong emotion that animals like humans have and it's not her fault for feeling it at all. Regina didn't want to get Bay back because she's feel guilty for ripping her apart from the only family she knew by then. Regina also suffers from commitment issues. Commitment issues are caused by fear of hurt and missing out and trauma. Things like that. The only people to blame is the hospital and the only person who was able to see the bigger picture was Toby and Regina.

Things are hard to understand as a teenager. I can see the points and sides of both mothers. Reginia wanted her child to have a good life and she knew it would be hard on the girls.

Poor bay

It’s like not only did bay have the parents she thought were her bio parents treat her like an outsider !like they’re still in high school and they’re the cheerleader and the jock but then the person she could connect with so much with art and DNA. A lot of the time treated her the same as an outsider.

Bruh idk what I would do at that point

I’m on Regina’s side. She did the right thing, had she come forward, the Kenishes would’ve taken both daughters away, had she come forward, Bay would also had being ripped apart from the only family, she considered her, same as Daphne. Regina had everything to lose and the girls also had everything to lose.

Here's how I feel about the whole ordeal: Bay was in the complete right to feel the way she did about the situation. Regina "not wanting to traumatize the girls" or "take them away from the only family they'd ever known" was incredibly selfish on her part. All they sound like are cop-outs and excuses to me. She did illegal things in her past, most of which involved alcohol, and was still going through it at that point, (I think. I haven't watched this show in a while) and didn't want to face the consequences of her actions. She didn't want to make herself look worse and put her feelings before everyone else's. Also, shouldn't there have been some legal repercussions to this? Finding out your non-adopted, non-stepchild isn't the one you gave birth to and STILL keeping her anyway has to be illegal. Taking both girls to live with the Kennishes would've done both families a world of good. Regina shouldn't have gotten to have had her cake and eaten it too. You do illegal things, you don't get to have our child in your custody. That's just how it works.

I dont really blame Regina. Lets be really, Regina was right, John and Kathryn would have taken them both. It was proven later in the show, what would have happened if Regina came foward. They would have taken them both and they wouldnt have given Regina a chance. Daphne would have been spoiled brat. Toby would have been ignored and wouldnt have Regina help him with his gambling addiction. Bay would still feel unwanted charity case child. In a way. Both anyone say the Kennish only wanted custody of both of the daughters bc Regina was an alcoholic. Regina should have waited when she was atleast sober for couple of years. I stil believe it wouldnt make the difference if she waited a couple of years to report the switched. In Ecce Mono, they didnt even gave her a chance to get sober. They file restraining order aganist her and hide gifts she would spend to the girls. From it seem they didnt let Regina's other family members to have relationships with the girls. Plus ever since the very beginning the series and this was way before they knew that Regina knew about the switch. They did threaten to take full custody of Daphne. Regina at that point has been sober for years. So her being an alcoholic wasnt the Kennish main problem. They were pretty judgemental of Regina's parenting styles. The only reason why the Kennishes couldnt get full custody is bc Daphne was almost 18.

♥

Bullshit? Um no. She didn't want to traumatize any of the girls. She was scared of possibly losing Daphne...she probably knew it was a possibility because the Kennishes can afford good lawyers and because of her DUIs. AND if she ripped Bay from the only family she knew...that would have traumatized her. So no, it's not bullshit.

@HollyShannen19

2 жыл бұрын

No it wouldn't cause it wouldn't be ripping out like they are some objects that you can just relocate. Plus, she was only 3. I don't remember a single thing from that time and I doubt if she would. And I say what I'm repeating all the time - Regina wanted best for both and did great job as a mother of Daphne but didn't care for Bay much or at least didn't show it and Bay didn't felt it. Throughout the show Bay repeately had to ask Regina for time together, for posibility to get close to her. Regina never fought for Bay - not after finding out about the switch and not later when the truth was out. She keeps saying how sorry she is but that's all she's doing - like in the last episode "I'm so glad I found you and so sorry for the time I missed" - yeah, well you didn't really found he, you knew where she was all along and if it wasn't for Bay you would still be just collecting her pictures in the guitar case.

@samanthawhatshername2939

2 жыл бұрын

@@HollyShannen19 ummm sorry but I personally know someone who is still traumatized because they were ripped fro their mother's arms younger than two..it forever changed them. If you don't have or know a personal experience...then you wouldn't understand how devastating it is. 🤷🤦

@HollyShannen19

2 жыл бұрын

@@samanthawhatshername2939 Okay then but I still don't think giving up on your own child is the answer, especially looking at how Bay is devastated here, feeling that she wasn't worth fighting for by her own mother. Regina protected herself mostly here.

@samanthawhatshername2939

2 жыл бұрын

@@HollyShannen19 she protected her kids.

@sailorsister211

2 жыл бұрын

@@HollyShannen19 I like Regina and I do understand why she kept it a secret for all these years. However, I do agree she wasn't there for Bay. However, it wasn't just for Regina, the same goes for John and Adrianna. My biggest issue of this show is the favoritism the show had with Daphne over Bay. I always felt the parents expect Angelo and Kathryn to favor Daphne over Bay. John did seem more interested in Daphne's life over Bay, only seem to get involved when Bay got into trouble. Adrianna never seems interested in bonding with her bio granddaughter. She even tried to get Angelo deported, when she knew Bay wanted to get to know her father better, yeah I wouldn't be happy if my daughter got back with her ex that left her but I also wouldn't try to get him deported esp if my granddaughter was happy to see it. The same goes for Bay's material grandma, who did ignore Bay for Daphne. Even in the alternative version, where Regina reported the switched Bay felt like the black sheep that didn't belong and unwanted. For me Kathryn was the best parent in the show, she always tried to bond with all her three kids equally, without being asked or told.

What season and episode was this?

@HollyShannen19

10 ай бұрын

1x08 Pandora Box

Thats horseshit. Regina fell in love with Daphne (just like the Keshners did anfter meeting her) and chose to keep her and the whole thing hidden. That’s fine. She raised Daphne. But like don’t act remorseful when at the time you probably weren’t.

What episode was this?

@HollyShannen19

2 жыл бұрын

1x08 Pandora's Box

Poor family

At 0 28 i would removed the underwear at regina

Regina made the right choice. For both girls. She would of ripping both of them out of families they already saw as their home. Bay and Daphne will never understand until they become a mother. I know Regina kept herself at a distance from bay because she said she had to pretend bay wasn’t out there because it hurt too much that she couldn’t have her. Then when bay was suddenly back in her life, it was hard to turn the switch back on after all those years of trying to protect herself.

@jasonmoukala8909

Жыл бұрын

No she didn’t

@Me4003

10 ай бұрын

Completely disagree that wasn’t her choice to make alone and the kids where 3 when she found out the change could still have been easy.

Umm no. It’s the other way around. Regina made the right decision and Bay is too stubborn to understand why

@HollyShannen19

4 жыл бұрын

How is giving up on your child the right decision? I can understand why she was afraid to tell at the beginning when was still drinking, not employed etc. But I don't get why she didn't tell anything later, when she was sober for years. She made a decision convenient only for herself. And Bay is not stubborn here. She has every right in the world to be hurt.

@Lonarix1

4 жыл бұрын

Dachshund Mom you are right that she could’ve revealed the truth later on after getting her life together but still, like any person she did not know what the other family is really like and could not risk the possibility of losing both daughters. They could be good people like Katheryn who is understanding and reasoning. Or they could’ve been like John who believes that past actions define a person and they can never change despite correcting their wrongs. He is also controlling, stubborn, he apparently he doesn’t realize that he treats his family like possessions. But most of all he is arrogant which worsens the other qualities. He doesn’t care how his actions effects others if he believes he is right, which is almost always.

@FourSeasons04

3 жыл бұрын

Bay was speaking from a place of hurt and insecurity, but Regina was correct for the time. Bay was no longer Daphne Vasquez and it was pretty clear, she was loved and well cared for. I totally understand Regina's focus for the child left in her care. Remember during the court case, Katherine testified she would not have reversed the switch, even if she had the option to do so. There were no losers or winners, each family made the best of an unfortunate event.

@Lonarix1

3 жыл бұрын

Four Seasons Thank you. So many people are missing the point of the “What if” episode.

@AngelicMistyStorm

3 жыл бұрын

Dachshund Mom I think both girls should be grateful they had good mothers who took care of them. They could had a mother who buried the other daughter alive to keep the daughter secret that she hit her with a rock.

It wasn't bullshit

Bay is a trouble maker maybe spoiked kid but i never liked her character because she wa always fighting for what she felt was right even if it was wrong like PAINTING ILLEGALLY . There are rules we have to follow you dont damage someones property for a cause you find a way that wont hurt anyone are physically are are materialy she had no rights. She made a good show bad everytime she brought up her cause.

Daphne is the worst