In 40 yrs of riding I do prefer the simplicity and lack of mess from a belt drive this should translate nicely to the Shotgun 650 also which I would definitely want to do as a mod

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Nice. Hope all works out. 🙏

Very interesting video, I will watch for future updates from you.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Thank you. No worries 🙏🤞

Many thanks for sharing this TTT. You're a good bloke to know about. Thumbs up to RSTech for making the things they make :)

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

I think Robert is a true engineer, and just enjoys the challenge. 🙏

@Jonathan-L

4 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand You've picked some real plums of good aftermarket bike bikes in Thailand. I'm not a Royal Enfield owner, but knowing that cool bit exist would definitely be part of committing to buying an R.E. By the way, I think if RSTech did belt drive kits for Triumphs, they would possibly gain some market share (of course, there are other belt drive kits already available for Triumph, but somewhat pricey).

@robertstraghan9009

4 ай бұрын

RSTech here - I have a Bonnie T120 for my other bike and keep getting asked that very same question. Probably is the answer but no idea when

My belt kit arrived in the post yesterday. Thank you so much for bringing this outstanding product to my attention.! Now I've just got to get my head around installing it 😜😳

@Teacher-T-Thailand

2 ай бұрын

I do hope to record and post a fitting guide soon, but I’m sure Robert’s PDFs are thorough. 🙏

@felixVanDiemen

2 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand they are thorough and very well written, I've just got to bite the bullet and do it. It is a little more involved than I had anticipated. However in my experience once you get going on these sort of projects, they aren't as scary as they look on paper 😂

Looking forward to a Ride review/Progress report as you get some road time in.🙂

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Thanks. Will be a month or so away. Thanks for the support 🙏

Das Beste was man in eine 650 er Meteor investieren kann!👍👍👍

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Thank you 🙏

@felixVanDiemen

4 ай бұрын

Richtig!

@felixVanDiemen

4 ай бұрын

du liegst nicht falsch 🤟

@douglasradowick508

3 ай бұрын

I'm glad to find out about the belt drive system. That was the 1 thing that held me back from going "full tilt" in getting the meteor 650! Id go with the high ratio set-up to get the lower rpm's, better mpg & horsepower. I think I'll do the DNA high performance air filter system. The "touring" package is what clinches the choice for me. Now it's just the color I have to pick out for the .motorcycle!🏍️😁🤓👍 Doug, from the USA🇺🇸🦅

@felixVanDiemen

3 ай бұрын

@@douglasradowick508 I completely agree, I have ordered the higher ratio one, as for the colour, that's easy, has to be Celestial blue for me 🤩

Good one again, T. Waiting for more.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Thank you. Yes looking forward to a follow up 🙏

I installed it on my 650i '650 interceptor in Brazil' and I'm really enjoying it, no more dirt...

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Nice. And smoother power transfer? 🙏

@OWilsonBatista

4 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand Yes, smooth and without losing strength.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

@@OWilsonBatista Great. Thank you 🙏

Gr8 keep up videos...love to watch ur exclusive and innovative

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Thank you. 🙏👌

So pleased to see them do this. Gonna take a while to get here to the U.S though

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Ha ha. Them is not RE. It's privately made, and available now world wide. Link in description 🙏

@robertstraghan9009

4 ай бұрын

Shipping the end of March, and no problem to the US with a week transit time, and door to door tracking

this got my attention so fast. after clocking 25k on mine i can see myself getting this kit with aftermarket settings for top speed. seems like i could save hella fuel along the way

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

I am unsure about the fuel savings. At the moment with standard bike I consistently get 25km/l. I will of course test the new fuel economy. ,🙏

No compromise to quality🔥

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

All quality products used. So hopefully not 🙏👌

I wish Royal Enfield (meteor 650) would come up with a stock belt drive, and for sure I will never dream and look for another cruiser motorcycle but this. It would be a perfect cruiser for me.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

I will make a review in a month or so 🙏

@paulodaCL

4 ай бұрын

Não é original? Que pena 😢

Love the colour choice on your 650. Met a guy up in Mae Gum Pong with the same setup. I'll keep an eye out if you're riding around Chiang mai.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

I'm here tonight lol

@Fallen608

4 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand Hah, Rev your engine loudly around Nimman and I'll look. :)

Went on their website and it’s not available yet :( but I definitely feel like it’s a worth while upgrade. Thank you for sharing. Damn the exhaust are 10kg ….. damn

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

Available very soon. Mid April. Just parts waiting to be heat treated and coated 🙏

One of the reasons why I got the Scout over a Meteor, I was so done with chain maintenance.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Wish I could afford a Scout 😂🙏 They do look awesome. Hopefully one day

Great video, very interesting, an option for my Super Meteor👍

@Teacher-T-Thailand

2 ай бұрын

Thank you. It's a great option for the SM650 🙏

Very interesting mate! I will be keeping a close eye on your reviews of this belt drive, I'm very temped 🤔

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Tomorrow I will test ride an Interceptor with RSTech belt drive fitted. Hopefully video next Friday 👌🙏

@felixVanDiemen

4 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand cheers mate, I look forward to it!

Huge after market for belt drive it won't be long till a Company offers this for many bike manufacturers ❤

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

It’s a great optional extra to have when buying a new bike. RE offer handlebars, seats, back rests etc. Shame they don’t offer this also. A good job RSTech does 😂🙏

You should consider a rear lower end belt protection cover.( see HD) . It eliminates the risk, that in unlucky moment a stone or debris get between belt and rear sprocket.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Thank you. Will pass it on 🙏

I am part of a SM650 riding group in Bangalore with over 100 members. Love to hear from RSTech if they are planning to sell these in india soon. Most of us would love to have it.

@robertstraghan9009

4 ай бұрын

Yes, but reasonable cost shipping is very difficult to find these days.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

RSTech say it’s possible. As long as the belt is tensioned correctly, all is good. They are looking into selling the tension tools also.

My mistake. The chain fitted on the Meteor 650 is a 520 not a 525. Sorry 🙏😂

Keep up the good work

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

I’m just the reporter 😂🙏

Honda NC700/750 Auto needs this

@Teacher-T-Thailand

2 ай бұрын

👍🙏

Very nice made parts. I prefer belt drive instead of shaft or chain. From 50 years of experience.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Top quality. Top machining. Top protective coatings. Top belt. ,🙏

Amazing!

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

It was a lot of hard work. Thank you 🙏

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Thank you 🙏

Here a close future owner of a SM650 (ending March I hope). Thanks a lot for these videos. I would love to be able to make this change to my bike, but I'm in Spain and don't know if the price and burocracy in order to legaly do it would be worthy. It would be great if Royal Enfield do something similar in an officially supported way.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Congratulations. Welcome to the club soon. We visited Spain last year. Dania area. Perfect biking roads for a Meteor 650. I very much doubt that Royal Enfield will in the near future. They compete on price point on new bikes. But hopefully they make take note. Thanks for watching. Happy riding. 🙏

@g4yvm

4 ай бұрын

Whilst I appreciate the engineering, seriously how practical is this expensive mod? So I have to make the arduous and life draining weekly check and clean of chain...as i clean the bike anyway. Like I said nice engineering but a total waste of cash in my opinion.

@robertstraghan9009

4 ай бұрын

Oily mess is a consideration for some, and the most common comment is on how smooth it is. From a USA rider - "The first thing I noticed was how much smoother it is in the on/off throttle moments, it's not as harsh in transition from being fully loaded to no load. Consequently, it has less effect on the frame attitude when entering corners." If cash is your only consideration, consider the long term cost of a belt VS that of a chain/sprocket set, including the labour and hassle to change 5 chain sets over the life of the belt. I would rather ride the bike, then work on it.

Looks a good kit , I would consider one if I bought the Super Meteor or Shotgun, but waiting to see if the classic 650 materialises !

@Teacher-T-Thailand

18 сағат бұрын

Ohhh it will. But probably 6 months to 1 year away. Depending on where in the world you live. If they get the looks and colour choices as good as the Classic 350, then that would be a contender for many 👍🙏

@melfzs

18 сағат бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand I have a Gunmetal grey classic 350 , if they keep it true to it's style I'll have one!

@Teacher-T-Thailand

18 сағат бұрын

@@melfzs 100% I’m not a great fan of the colour choices on the Meteor 650 or Shotgun. 🙏

@melfzs

17 сағат бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand yeah, they are a bit hit and miss , but I think the green of each version is the best choice of either ?

@Teacher-T-Thailand

13 сағат бұрын

@@melfzs hence why I have the green and black😂🙏

Hi Teacher T. I thoroughly enjoy watching your videos. I've bought a RE Super Meteor 650 and love driving it in France. It's a great place to ride. I've already adjusted the suspension and added more padding (professionally) to the seat; then did a ride-out of 320Km. I'm really interested in the Belt Drive kit. Do you know if it is going to be available in Europe? Presumably it will invalidate any warranty on the bike? I look forward to hearing from you and seeing your next vid. 😊 Rob

@Teacher-T-Thailand

2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much. It means a lot. It sounds like you have some good roads there. Yes, RS Tech will certainly post to France. Their link is in the video description. You are probably right about warranty. But this could apply to any modification. Even something as simple as changing to the DNA air filter, or exhaust silencers. Or not servicing in an approved centre. But I'm personally not worried about it. Thanks again. Safe riding 🙏

@robertmoon6492

2 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand Thanks, I'll contact RS direct. I'll see if my local RE shop would be willing to fit it. French roads are fantastic for biking. Next time you're in Europe, I'll be happy to show you some windies (not windies 😄) in the Creuse!

Danke!

@Teacher-T-Thailand

2 ай бұрын

Danker Doi! Many thanks 🙏

I have a Royal Enfield Hunter 350 and would be interested in this belt conversion. Do you know if they are planning on introducing a kit for the 350 platform; Meteor, Classic and Hunter?

@Teacher-T-Thailand

Ай бұрын

Sadly not at the moment for the J series. The problem is that there is not enough room in the J series to fit that large front pulley. If you make it any smaller, then that would be too thigh a turn circle for the belt parameters and cause a short life on the belt. RSTech will not make because of this. Other companies are making, but I wouldn’t advise it because of the reason stated. 🙏

The big problem with a belt final drive is tension. A chain can tolerate variations in tention far better than a belt. Each bike design will be different. The relationship between wheel centre, front sprocket centre, swing arm pivot position and amount of suspension travel all play a part in how much the tension will vary on each individual bike through the suspension travel either creating an enviroment that is belt friendly or not.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

You are 100% correct. Which is why RSTech will not make or put their name to 350 J series belt kits. The tolerances don't add up for longevity of the belt. But the 650s all check ok. Not sure on the Shotgun yet. 🙏

@americofarianey4075

3 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand, In Brazil is on sale for the Meteor350

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

@@americofarianey4075 it would be interesting to know how long they last for. 🙏

Hi belt drive looks good i will wait till you do a long term review, would it be available in the uk customers and how mutch would it be

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Yes available world wide. The link to RSTech is in the video description US dollars. I return to UK myself soon to visit family. So won’t be able to use my bike for a while 🤐

Looking forward to your review. Do they have plans for the Meteor ?

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

The gates belt has a minimum turn radius, and sadly the front pulley would be too big to fit on the J series 350 bikes. Other companies in India make and supply, but not something RSTech would like to put their name to at the moment. This may change in the future if belt technology changes. 🙏

@lancerbiker5263

4 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-ThailandThanks for that. Cheers

I am also riding a sm650 in CRI. Would love to meet up sometime. Probably the CRI RE Grand Opening?

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Sure. Any time. Are they not already open?

@thecraziest77

4 ай бұрын

They are ...... late though. There will be a group ride and a party on 23rd March. Please see them for more info.

Its all good Thanks

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

I hear you are sorted 🙏

awesome

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Thank you 🙏

like it, nicely engineered, my 650gt is about 20kg lighter than standard, i might have to findthe money to do this, was the guy wearing safety flipflops! lol

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

It is cheaper on a continental. Shorter belt. Flip flops are standard safety foot wear in Asia 😂🙏

@robertstraghan9009

4 ай бұрын

My Interceptor is a lot lighter than stock as well, and I run an even higher 2.375 ratio - IE the Inter "16T" mod, which confusingly higher than the SM 16T mod at 2.53 or stock Inter ratio. Just back now after a 1700 km trip with cruise speeds at 120 kph, so the higher gearing is a plus for me. Given that our bikes are a lot lighter than a SM this higher ratio works well, but likely too high for the SM to pull, and more likely one would not like it that high

Very nice

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

It is. A niche mod 👌🙏

Did you mount a stone catcher ? I have one of the first Harleys with belt drive, also without stone catcher. A stone in the rear pulley will break the belt, and yes this happens.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

When you say ‘stone catcher’ I take it you mean guard? A guard will stop stones getting but it also stops them getting out. Obviously a belt drive is not recommended for poor roads where stones are an issue. Hence why dirt bikes never use a belt drive. 🙏

@robertstraghan9009

4 ай бұрын

"Stone catcher" is aptly put. Like a stock Enfield, my old Harley guard was L shaped, and open on the back side. Unless the guard is fully enclosed (impossible with an endless belt unless a 2 piece guard) the guard can "catch" a stone, trapping it in the guard, increasing any potential risk. This is why myself, and others remove the guard in the hope that any rock will get flung out. So is the guard to keep out rocks, or a mandated safety regulation to keep out fingers and bits of clothing?

Interesting video, can u get belt drive from bangkok,i install usd charger from your video,keep going sir👍👍

@Teacher-T-Thailand

2 ай бұрын

Sure. The belt drives are shipped from Chiang Mai I believe. Congrats on the USB 🙏

Hi. Any belt drive for Meteor 350 on the market ? Thanks in advance teacher.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

There are. But only from India at the moment. The Gates belts that RSTech use require too large a front pulley for the J series to accommodate. But Hates have launched a new belt, so it may be possible in the future with a high quality belt.

👍😎💪💪💪 Könnte ich mir für meine 350er auch vorstellen

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Not at the moment from RSTech sadly. The front pulley would be too small for a Gates GT belt. 😒

Interesting project even though there are already many belt drive options available for Super Meteor 650 in India but they aren't specially tailored made for super meteor so there are some minor errors like gears being a little large and belts to be less durable compared to chains so when your project is completed down please do the extreme durable test of belt and it's gears for extreme conditions and then gave us report of how much longer your belt drive lasted maybe Indians would order it if they find it durable enough to run on crazy Indian roads.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

You,have in India already? As far as we are aware this is the first kit available for the Meteor 650. Especially your using the high quality world proven Gates belts. But yes, maybe belt drive is not a good option for Indian roads. 🙏

@shubhamgupta-pq2me

4 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-ThailandYes we do have though I don't remember the exact brand name of belt drive because it is local companies in our country who specially made all types of accessories for R.E and Harley. Many of the Indian riders already had gone for Belt Drive option some even did extreme tests but the results of that extreme test was already the one I told you in my previous reply Gears size is slight bigger which sometimes makes slight friction against the bike chasis and as for belt after extreme tests it broked out.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

@@shubhamgupta-pq2meAt the start of the video you will see the size of the front sprocket / pulley. This is the minimum size required for the Gates belt to operate correctly. The pulleys I’ve seen on the 350s made in India are far too small, and maybe this is the reason belts are not lasting. Unbranded belts, and too tight a turn. 🙏

@robertstraghan9009

4 ай бұрын

Proper engineering, quality components, a quality Gates belt, proper belt alignment, and tension are all critical to long term life and reliability. Belt drive is a well proven idea on motorcycles, and Harleys have been using a belt since 1985, over literally millions of km. This is the same system as used in stock OEM fitment on Indian, Buell, Kawasaki, BMW, Suzuki, Triumph, and Yamaha motorcycles; not to mention Gates who invented the drive belt and used in industrial applications under very harsh conditions. I am not the only one to have put 160,000 on an older design Harley belt.....................

@shubhamgupta-pq2me

4 ай бұрын

@@robertstraghan9009 Brother you took my comment wrongly I am not saying that belt drive aren't reliable for bikes obviously they are best the option for bikes it's just the belt drive that some local companies are making aren't able to produce tailored fit for super meteor 650 which causes it belt to break down early on in extreme tests.

Cool

@Teacher-T-Thailand

2 ай бұрын

It is 🙏

Hi Teacher T. Can you please inform me if RE still have a showroom in Chiang Rai?

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Ha ha. Yes they do. But a new franchise, in a different location. Look through my videos. I made a video for them 😂🙏

@jaisabai4155

4 ай бұрын

​@@Teacher-T-Thailand Ok, thank you.

How many kilometers that belt can run whats the life of that belt when needed to be changed and what's the maintenance?

@Teacher-T-Thailand

2 ай бұрын

Long life with minimal maintenance are two of the belt drive advantages: Many riders report putting 160,000 on a Harley belt - a much heavier bike with far greater torque than a tuned Interceptor at 50 Nm Gates say 5-8 times the life of a chain and sprocket set, which bears out this experience. The Gates carbon fiber belt does not stretch like a chain, nor wear at the links, so as one might imagine, maintenance is very minimal. Noteworthy is that the HD maintenance intervals only go to 80,000 km, and specified as "inspect and adjust" only. Other OEM brands using a belt drive have similar statements, however a prudent Rider would keep an eye on belt tension as part of regular pre-ride checks.

Why they removed the complete rear suspension? i wanted to have a belt-drive but not available now in Germany, can you help me to order?

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

They removed the swing arm, to fit the belt. You can order from here :rstech.my-online.store/product/royal-enfield-super-meteor-650-belt-drive

@robertstraghan9009

2 ай бұрын

The belt is an endless loop, so no way to get it around the swingarm, without removing it. The biggest part of the job is removing the rear wheel, and dropping the swingarm only adds about 10-15 min to what would be a chain set change. At 70 I can do the belt upgrade in 2 hours. Teacher T's Super Meteor chain, was an endless loop as well, although some SM are reported to have a link.

pardon my naivete : what are the chances of snapping at high speeds !! maintenance cost of it and would it impact performance if road condition is bad >worse specially in high humidity dust and muddy areas !!

@chrisfs150

4 ай бұрын

These belts are typically immensely strong I work with 900 kw motors that use belts on the output drive and they've never snapped and even when 'wearing' out there's plenty of warning... Bear in mind my 900 kw motors are 1300horsepower and the royal enfield at most puts out 50hp so,if they can't snap belts i dont suppose the r.e will! 😊

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Sadly there are copy belts and small tight turn pulleys being fitted to bikes in India. Then belts snap and give the whole system a bad name. This is the same type of belts fitted to HD and they have much more torc. Mud and stoney roads can be a problem. Good tarmac roads no problem.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Thanks. At last some one who understands the science ;-)

@robertstraghan9009

4 ай бұрын

Both belt alignment, and tension is important to life and reliability. Harleys have been using a belt since 1985, over literally millions and millions of km under all conditions, so a well proven concept for a road bike. A belt is stock OEM fitment on Indian, Buell, Kawasaki, BMW, Suzuki, Triumph, Zero, and Yamaha; not to mention Gates who invented the drive belt and used in industrial applications under very harsh conditions. I am not the only one to have put 100,000 miles (160K km) on a Harley belt, and on another Harley I pumped 121 Hp and 141 Nm of torque for about 40,000 km until I sold it. A much heavier bike with far greater torque than a tuned Interceptor at 50 Nm on a belt that is 30% stronger. Gates claim that this carbon fiber tensile cord belt is stronger than a NEW chain. Whether you believe that or not does not matter, as an Interceptor simply does not have sufficient torque. Also give some thought to how a chain wears at the links and where any potential failure point will be. A belt does not have such a wear issue.

I have sm 650. Is belt drive is success in sm 650. Were to buy belt drive in India do you know.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

After watching itchy boots, and seeing the state of the roads in India, I’m not sure if I would recommend a belt drive there. But the link of where to get is in the video description. 🙏

@hitendrasarthi798

3 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand YOU ARE CORRECT. THANKS FOR REPLY 😊

Checked the website through ur link The site doesn't have any for super meteor 650

@Teacher-T-Thailand

29 күн бұрын

Ahhhh. I think there maybe a new website now. Let me update the link shortly 🙏

@Teacher-T-Thailand

29 күн бұрын

Try here : www.royalenfieldbeltdrive.com/product-page/super-meteor-shotgun-650-belt-drive-kits

@sharatmuthyala

29 күн бұрын

Thank you so much it's very helpful

Very informative Price is high 😢

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Thank you. Expensive materials. Expensive machine cutting. Expensive coatings and belts. All add up. Still cheaper than a Harley 😂🙏

@jetsetter_Awara

4 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand yes I UNDERSTAND. I M HAVING this machine. I am loving it. I love to ride this machine on the belt system, but ......😔

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

@@jetsetter_Awara enjoy. Royal Enfield is a great brand 👌🙏

super Idee, würde das System sofort bei meiner Continental installieren, da wäre noch die Hürde mit dem deutschen TÜV. Vielleicht weiß ja jemand hier wie man es macht oder wie ich an ein bezahlbares Gutachten komme.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

I wish I could copy and paste this to translate, but my iPad won’t let me. But I will take the word Super 😂🙏

✌

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

🙏

Watching you put air in your tires was not what I was expecting after the build up for this video!

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Noted. I thought it linked. Hot air balloons, my lovely portable tyre inflator and my dirty hands after chain lubing. Thanks for watching. No tyres inflating next time. Promise 😂🙏

Dear Teacher , does any other performance of the vehicle get affected by this belt drive ?

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Not if you choose the stock geared option. But if you chose the higher geared option, top speed will be higher, but acceleration slower. 🙏

@samuelsoundrapandian3836

4 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@Teacher-T-Thailand. Kindly elucidate “stock geared option and higher geared option”.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

@@samuelsoundrapandian3836 Certainly. Stock geared is the same ratio you have now on the bike. Standard. The higher geared option is just that. The gear ratio is changed, so that the front sprocket turn less to rotate the rear wheel 1 revolution. So therefore a higher speed can be achieved if required, or use same speed as before at less rpm and hopefully save a bit of fuel at the same time. The only down side is slower acceleration, but not much.

@samuelsoundrapandian3836

Ай бұрын

Thank you sir.

Will you add S&S 865 big bore kit?

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

Yes I will try and persuade Robert to video it when he does it. At the moment he is filming his tubeless wheel conversion. 🙏

@robertstraghan9009

3 ай бұрын

Just pulled the engine today to do that rather than do it in-frame. Not a big job and had it out in 2 hours

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

@@robertstraghan9009 hope you are videoing Robert 🙏

@robertstraghan9009

3 ай бұрын

I am not doing the actual tear down and rebuild myself this time, as I am going to Canada for the summer soon. More importantly, a very well respected tuner has retired to Chiangmai, and I am lucky enough to have him do the head work and cylinder sleeving while I am gone. Cylinder head porting is an art, and I have ruined just enough heads to know that I have a lot to learn about head work. He will install larger diameter valves, flow the head, bore the cylinders for new liners, degree the cam, and give me the assembled engine back. I will install the new Rekluse clutch, then it will be a trip to the dyno shop to re-tune the cracked ECU@@Teacher-T-Thailand

@Teacher-T-Thailand How's yours going?

@Teacher-T-Thailand

2 ай бұрын

I’ve been in UK for a month, so sadly not ridden. I will do a review when I get some real milage on it. But I have done a review on the Interceptor belt drive with plenty of of miles on it 👌🙏

@felixVanDiemen

2 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand no worries just curious. I have the utmost confidence in the product, and Robert's integrity. That much is clear.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

2 ай бұрын

@@felixVanDiemen he is an honest clever guy. That is clear 🙏

Hi. Unable to add to cart. Have they all gone already?

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

All done I hope. I think there is a lead time, as parts need coating 👌🙏

@user-bb7wb4pe1o

4 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand Do you want a deposit? Are the prices $Australian or $US?

.....and I've always been told to oil a hot chain!

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Makes sense, to absorb oil better, but if I don’t oil my chain after washing, the very next day the OEM chain starts to show signs of rusting. 🙏

@drdoolittle5724

4 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand could it be metal quality possibly - my Honda 700 chain in crappy UK weather never concerns me but to give it the best care it is oiled?

Something is missing : what impact on power/torque ?

@robertstraghan9009

4 ай бұрын

The statement that belts are not as efficient as a chain is not true with these Gen 4 curvilinear toothed belts. From the Gates Engineering manual: “PolyChain® GT® Carbon® belt drive efficiency will be as high as 98%. This high efficiency is primarily due to the positive, no slip characteristic of synchronous belts. Since the belt has a thin profile, it flexes easily, thus resulting thus resulting in low hysteresis losses as evidenced by low heat buildup in the belt." and "Chain drives running unlubricated may generate significant heat buildup due to increased friction in the roller joints. Even properly lubricated chains running at higher speeds tend to throw off the oil due to centrifugal forces, making it difficult to maintain proper lubrication at the load bearing. " Consequently, chain drives are typically only 92-98% efficient." While there is lots of Gates marketing fluff out there, the Gates manual I referred to is an engineering design manual rather than propaganda. The "elsewhere" references I can find are either KZreadrs with questionable engineering credentials, compaqrison with bicycles, or general statements about belts or V-belts, and not specifically about these Gen 4 belts. Here is an unbiased US Dept of Energy report giving that 98% efficiency, and comparing to V-belts www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2014/04/f15/replace_vbelts_motor_systemts5.pdf And a technical paper of chain VS belt with the same result: core.ac.uk/download/pdf/55693235.pdf

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Robert is used to this question. His reply is attached 🙏

hi can you please share the link of that tire pump you are using? tnx

@Teacher-T-Thailand

Ай бұрын

Sure. Which country are you in?

@djo0164

Ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand Serbia

@Teacher-T-Thailand

Ай бұрын

@@djo0164 sorry for delay in reply. I can’t find any websites there. But please Google Xiaomi Mijia Air Pump 2 . It’s Chinese, it good quality. Make sure it’s the 2 model. The first model not so good. Be aware of cheap copies.

@djo0164

Ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand Thanks a lot appreciate

Hi how are you? I m italian and i thing if is possible to bay this kit if is legal for street use tnx for your time

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Belt drive kits are of course legal, which is why Harley Davidson and Indian use them. But you may have to inform your insurance of a modification to remain covered. 🙏

@erikmartin6746

4 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand where i can to bay it

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

@@erikmartin6746 rstech.my-online.store/product/royal-enfield-super-meteor-650-belt-drive 🙏

Will you supply this product to India..??

@Teacher-T-Thailand

18 күн бұрын

Yes, RSTech have already sold to, and have happy customers in India. Their website: www.royalenfieldbeltdrive.com/product-page/super-meteor-shotgun-650-belt-drive-kits

@mr.basavarajhakare5958

17 күн бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand Thank you So much for the reply.. 😊

Belt drive increase the pick up of the bike Plzz reply sir 🥰

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

I feel nothing different in pick up. Nor does it slow down. It’s just so much smoother transfer of power. Very noticeable 🙏

@ytoggy2543

3 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand ok 🥰thank u sir

Great 👍. 😊now can you do similar for the new bullet please please please 🙏

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Sorry. Can not. The front pulley would be too small, belts would have too tight a turn and break. You can buy them, but I wouldn't advise to.

What is the price for Interceptor-650

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

I just had a look at their website. It’s the same price. On Friday I will upload a review about this kit, as it’s been out and fitted on bikes fir over a year now. rstech.my-online.store/product/royal-enfield-650-belt-drive

What about power loss in belt drive?

@felipedourado5721

4 ай бұрын

Good question! On big Harleys it doesn't seem to make any major difference given the monster low end torque they have but in such modest powered motorcycle as the Super Meteor maybe it's an issue.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

No difference that I have noticed. Apart from the benefits of no chain snatch and a cleaner bike. For Cruisers I think it’s ideal. Perfect the a 45hp engine.

@robertstraghan9009

4 ай бұрын

The statement that belts are not as efficient as a chain is not true with these Gen 4 curvilinear toothed belts. From the Gates Engineering manual: “PolyChain® GT® Carbon® belt drive efficiency will be as high as 98%. This high efficiency is primarily due to the positive, no slip characteristic of synchronous belts. Since the belt has a thin profile, it flexes easily, thus resulting thus resulting in low hysteresis losses as evidenced by low heat buildup in the belt." and "Chain drives running unlubricated may generate significant heat buildup due to increased friction in the roller joints. Even properly lubricated chains running at higher speeds tend to throw off the oil due to centrifugal forces, making it difficult to maintain proper lubrication at the load bearing From Gates Engineering Design Manual " When properly designed and applied, surfaces. Consequently, chain drives are typically only 92-98% efficient." While there is lots of Gates marketing fluff out there, the Gates manual I referred to is an engineering design manual rather than propaganda. The "elsewhere" references I can find are either KZreadrs with questionable engineering credentials, or general statements about belts or V-belts, and not specifically about these Gen 4 belts. Here is an unbiased US Dept of Energy report giving that 98% efficiency number: www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/2014/04/f15/replace_vbelts_motor_systemts5.pdf And another technical paper with the same result: core.ac.uk/download/pdf/55693235.pdf

@felipedourado5721

4 ай бұрын

@@robertstraghan9009 Thanks for the answer, I'll check the links you posted. My question was made based on old and generic information regarding belt driven motorcycles that put them right in the middle. I mean, accordingly to that information on the the top of efficiency is the chain system, in the middle the belt drive system and, due to major mechanical losses, the shaft system. Regards from Brazil.✌ P.S. Just to make sure that I don't have any prejudice about belt driven trasmission systems I ride a Harley Softail Deuce and love it for its cleanliness and for its low maintenence characteristics.

@felipedourado5721

4 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand Thanks for your feedback. Looking forward to watch a new video on which you may give us a more in-depth review of this system installed on the RE Super Meteor and how the bike behaves, performance-wise, using this kind of final transmission. All the best from Brazil. ✌

hi

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

🙏

600$ 😮 you can buy ten chain and sprocket kits from royal Enfield for that price here in india😂. If these are intended to be sold to make a lot of money, that aint gonna happen.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

29 күн бұрын

Every one to their own Some people do not want to replace chain and sprockets every year, and avoid the oily mess that goes with maintaining a chain. A Meteor 650 plus a $600 belt drive kit is still half the price of a Harley Davidson, where belt drive comes as standard. It’s a premium product, and therefore a premium price tag. But in the long run will save you money, time and hassle. 🙏

@diaryofawanderingboot4058

29 күн бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand I agree with you regarding the chain maintenance and smoother /less noisy operation. But comparing the price of royal Enfield stock parts and a Harley part ain't doing anything to justify the cost here. I'm from India and here since we do the manufacturing i know for a fact that's it' costs a fraction of that to make. But I get it, everyone wants to recoup their money / make a quick buck before folks figure it out.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

29 күн бұрын

@@diaryofawanderingboot4058 There have been many kits sold to India already, and owners are happy with their purchase. 🙏

For $600 it should be better.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

2 ай бұрын

Is that a statement or a question? Confused 🙏

@robertstraghan9009

2 ай бұрын

Not everyone agrees with your evaluation, and if the initial capital cost is your only purchasing criteria, then this is not for you The US made Gates belt cost is fixed, proper engineering has a cost, and quality components, manufacturing in small quantity, with post machining surface finishing comes at a cost. In all fairness 600 USD is a very good price compared to other quality belt conversion kits to fit my Bonnie You can have quality or you can have a cheap price, but you cannot have both.

@TXLorenzo

2 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand The point is, that for a premium price of an accessory for a relatively inexpensive bike, good value is expected.

Its alloy wheels looks ugly... Can u find good looking and strong alloy wheels for super meteor... Just like Harley Fatboy or Ducati xdiavel

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

This is just the test fit piece. The rear pulley will be type 3 anodised for hardening and corrosion protection. It will also turn the pulley to black in colour.

@abhinavtripathi7585

4 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand I did not get my answer.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

@@abhinavtripathi7585 ahhhh sorry my mistake. I thought you were talking about the pulley, not the wheels. I have no idea about those. Sorry. Maybe some one can suggest on here?

HOW MUCH? $595?? I bought a belt conversion for my Royal Enfield Classic 500 in 2021? £140. Someone is taking the mickey.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

You couldn’t even get the ‘Gates’ be.t for that price. So I do question the quality of the kit you have bought. How many KM have you put on it?

@WidleyWesident

4 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand apologies - the full kit from Bandidos in India to my home in the U.K. was $US 303.41. Works well, has done 4000 miles without fault or need for adjustment. The belt is Gates carbon belt from the USA.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

@@WidleyWesident That’s a great price for a genuine Gates belt kit. I would be interested to know the diameter of the front pulley 🙏

@WidleyWesident

4 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand I haven’t a clue as I sold my Classic 500 and replaced it with a Guzzi V7 850. It was a good conversion too (front sprockets were different between 350 and 500 models) but it looks like Bandidospitstop no longer sell the Legundary kit. The chap that bought my Classic 500 seemed very pleased with it.

Absolutely wrong. A chain get lubricated direct after a ride if the chain is warm. So the lubricate can go in to the chain where it sould be and can cool down with the chain together and is ready for your next ride in the morning. If you spray it on a cold chain in the morning and than you start to ride away, your lubricate is everywhere on your bike and on the street but not inside your chain.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

3 ай бұрын

Each to Thier own. You solution is a good one, but after washing my bike, if I don't oil straight away the OEM chain will rust. Obviously after washing it is cool.

@Zimmermann310

3 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand After I washed my bike, I ride the bike for 15 to 20 Kilometers so the water is out of the chain and the chain is warm. Than i lubricate the chain because the oil can go much better in to the chain parts. The way you do ist, let the oil just sitting on the outside of the chain and if you ride your bike, the Oil flung of the chain and is every where but not where it should be. But yes... each to their own. I like to lubricate my chain while you lubricate the street.

Yor address plz

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

Wen site address?

This was a very disappointing video--there was no new information provided!!!!! Very disappointed!!!!

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

The price? Where to get? The benefits? As far as we are aware, this is the first belt drive kit available for the Meteor 650.

@markwood9755

4 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-ThailandGreat update video, not disappointed at all, please keep us updated with future developments😊

@jlrutube1312

4 ай бұрын

@@Teacher-T-Thailand I thought it was very good information. I am glad to know about this option and the information was very helpful.

@BlackdogADV

4 ай бұрын

Excellent review, thanks.

@Teacher-T-Thailand

4 ай бұрын

@@markwood9755 Thank you 🙏