Subboor Ahmad is a Whiny Toddler Coward
Hey remember when I did a reaction video about some brainless Muslim creationists who did nothing but giggle and soil themselves when attempting to discuss science they are totally clueless about? They didn't really like it, so they've challenged me to a "debate". Of course they didn't email me with the offer, they just made a long video where they puffed their chests up like smug douchebags, clearly grandstanding for their brainwashed flock, and very clearly bluffing. Well, here is my response! Do you think they'll follow through, the whiny little cowards?
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No email from these clowns yet! Anyone wanna place their bet below as to if and when they will reach out to set up the debate they so desperately pretend to want?
@seriaura
Ай бұрын
As an Ex-Muslim myself I’d so love to see this debate happen. Having watched your 3 hour annihilation of everything they said I really can’t even begin to imagine how they’ll try to feign scientific understanding in an attempt to save face. There is actually no way out for these people. I don’t understand how he can challenge someone to a debate in something that he himself is so uninformed in.
@marniejones331
Ай бұрын
I'll bet my kidneys they'll not reply and pretend to ignore
@kampikun6194
Ай бұрын
Eh, wouldn't expect anything from them if i were you, Dave, thats not how this type of people work.
@distermaer
Ай бұрын
They will pretend this video never existed and keep reverberating to their echo-chamber.
@barn_a
Ай бұрын
I would love to see another live debate with you again. If they do contact you will you accept??
The first rule of Dunning-Kruger club is that club members have no idea they are in Dunning-Kruger club.
@ericdanielski4802
Ай бұрын
Absolutely.
@hyperswag506
Ай бұрын
I’ve got that shirt
@C-Farsene_5
Ай бұрын
need that in a shirt
@geordiedog1749
Ай бұрын
Funny thing about D-K is that it’s starting to become a really good example of D-K! Especially by theists, I noticed.
@paulbooth3953
Ай бұрын
Dunning-Kruger club...DKC! First DKC rule, IDK! 😶
'James Tour humiliated him.' Well, that tells me all I need to know about this man's grasp over reality.
@freddan6fly
Ай бұрын
Well if you have to lie about science, it is fully natural to make lying your primary nature. Just like Kent Hovind and his ilk.
@MenchisMenagerie
Ай бұрын
These people are just idiots, and they know their audience will never check - they're just that gullible.
@noodlekeeper5150
Ай бұрын
Yeah, more like James Tour humiliated himself.
@foolishlyludicrous
Ай бұрын
MISTER FARINA!
@John.0z
Ай бұрын
And he gave support to Behe - the same one a judge admonished in the Dover school trial! How far from being science literate do you need to be to support Behe?
"He doesn't even have a phd" My dude someone with a PHD debating you would be like bringing a rocket launcher to a toothpick fight. It's complete overkill.
@woundedone
Ай бұрын
PhD to debate high school stuff 😂
@seeker_of_knowlage3568
Ай бұрын
What? He did debate multiple people with PhD. Get a life.
@akbarindo8976
Ай бұрын
@@seeker_of_knowlage3568so?
@berniethekiwidragon4382
Ай бұрын
It would be like stepping on an ant. You wouldn't even know you did.
@captainzoltan7737
Ай бұрын
@@seeker_of_knowlage3568 I highly doubt he has debated a PhD biologist given he fumbles 9th Grade Biology.
Ain't no way people actually believe James Tour did something in the debate
@freddan6fly
Ай бұрын
If you are brainwashed enough it warps your perception of reality and we call it "to have *god-glasses* on"
@OmniversalInsect
Ай бұрын
A lot of religious people side with him just because he has PhD and believes in God.
@elfishmoss1457
Ай бұрын
He did something, just nothing that supports his point
@Crowbars2
Ай бұрын
Just read some of the comments on James' video about it. They're such morons that they legitimately believe James "owned" Dave in that debate.
@sevarkon2290
Ай бұрын
@@Crowbars2 Christians actually think that the one who citated more good stuff from the Bible - wins anywhere on any topic, this can be seen in numerous debates with them
your titles make me giggle every time
@IvanEedle
Ай бұрын
A wild Anton appears
@ronexyt147
Ай бұрын
What da hail
@cosmidia
Ай бұрын
Anton! I’m a huge fan. Please have a wonderful day.
@AV4Life
Ай бұрын
Hello wonderful person
@Marcus_Tullius_Cicero
Ай бұрын
Hello wonderful science KZreadr!
I can't believe I just beat professor Dave in a debate!! I imagined an email I could send to him, and he never responded! Checkmate!!
@joebama3578
19 күн бұрын
He will never recover
As someone who lives in London, I would never use the phrase all expenses paid. This town eats money.
@berniethekiwidragon4382
Ай бұрын
Shh! If he wants to bankrupt himself, don't stop him.
Didn't know James "Mr. Farina" Tour had muslim apologist fans as well
@freddan6fly
Ай бұрын
All that reject evolution and OOL support each other. Except the flat earthers. They are too stupid.
@ramigilneas9274
Ай бұрын
Well, the vast majority of Muslims are creationists… so they must love him.
@JayMaverick
Ай бұрын
They're part of the same Dunning Kruger club.
@magnetiktrax
Ай бұрын
@@alphauno6614 are you going to pretend that Islamic Theology doesn't teach nonsense like getting 72 virgins when you reach heaven, or Mohammed splitting the moon?
@akiradvlmn
Ай бұрын
Well all of they argumensts is from discovry institute and other christinan creationists but most of them doesnt even understand their own arguments
In UK the title of Professor is at the top of academic pecking order. Your title is Dr through Lecturer, Senior Lecturer, Reader. When you are promoted from Reader to Professor then you can call yourself Prof. Those 2 guys in London, like a lot of nonacademics, aren't aware that in the US the Prof title can be used by non-PhDs in teaching roles at universities.
@xxEzraBxxx
Ай бұрын
Well it seems they aren’t really good at figuring that out either
@brianhilario5230
Ай бұрын
Great context!
@watcher235711
Ай бұрын
I'm in the US and it's like that at my university too (sort of)...we have "Professor" and then assistant prof, associate prof, adjunct, instructor, lecturer. I don't even know which is which. If my student calls me "Professor W." I don't explain the technicalities...I answer their question.
@jeremysmetana8583
Ай бұрын
I feel like you're giving them too much credit. I doubt they even knew this much. They're just barking out based on their assumptions.
@xxEzraBxxx
Ай бұрын
@@jeremysmetana8583 Even if the context here did make complete sense, it doesn’t detract the fact that they’re still talking out of their ass and having to pick on the most trivial details because they don’t actually have a real argument
Why do so many people desperately want their religious textbooks be treated like a scientific paper while simultaneously whine whenever anyone actually does that and scrutinizes it.
@marknieuweboer8099
Ай бұрын
To let science "justify" their crackpotteries.
@RR_theproahole
28 күн бұрын
It's like they are in an abusive relationship with science, they constantly willify and attack it while simultaneously being obsessed with it and wanting validation from it.
@mikefixac
20 күн бұрын
Great line.
@louseveryann2181
19 күн бұрын
Because they know science > cult.
@jalsiddharth
16 күн бұрын
There are these typical fundamentalists which are more along what you mentioned, and then there are the more devious bunch, ones that conflate and abuse/misuse philosophy, these are the real devious ones. When you go on a philosophical word-babble, sheep get fooled easily and its easy to grift. All of Subboor's smug/arrogance you see in the video comes from that very perspective. I have nothing against any religion (more appropriately, I look down on all religions equally) and don't have any problems with people believing what they want, but these devious ones are the most damaging and that's where I divert from my usual position of indifference.
Let's be fair, the crybaby got one thing right. "This guy has no respect for people who believe in intelligent design." Spot on! I don't have respect for IDiocy and other forms of creacrap either.
@reidflemingworldstoughestm1394
Ай бұрын
it's people who argue dishonestly who I have no respect for. You can believe anything you want. Just don't lie about it.
@tinthatisfullofbeans
Ай бұрын
Laughed at creacrap 😆
@marknieuweboer8099
Ай бұрын
@ ReidF: creationism pretends to be science while it rejects science, so it by definition is a lie. That's why almost all creationists lie; in 25 years of internet I have met two exceptions.
@Maladjester
Ай бұрын
Treating it with every molecule of respect it deserves. Not our fault that just happens to be zero.
@boinqity4621
Ай бұрын
they think that's some sort of smoking gun aha moment because they genuinely cannot see the difference between creationists and the 90% of religious people who are normal. to everyone but them it sounds fucking stupid lol
The fact they all start by complaining about how mean Dave is (he's not; people just don't like being called out publicly but conveniently forget they were spouting nonsense publicly) demonstrates they have absolutely no capacity to refute anything he says. It's a manipulative tactic to draw sympathy from his audience. I hope Dave never stops because he's having a major impact and it's a sight to behold.
@Yhwh5040
Ай бұрын
@@alphauno6614 it's just a name!! Get over it 🙄 Dave started his channel when his students used to call him "professor David" and the name just stuck 😒
@user95395
Ай бұрын
It's true, calling people out is not normative so Dave automatically gets called "rude." What's rude is confidently denying reality for money and influencing people dumber than you who will aggressively push this noninfo on others because it's easier.
@andycocchia4202
Ай бұрын
I think it’s more he calls people dumb, and stupid, and morons etc. it’s not calling out their science it’s the fact that he is an actual asshole to people. This entire video is attacking the person just like he’s complaining about. He calls him a toddler in the name of the video. Let’s count how many times he insults him with names in this video alone, shall wed
@XraynPR
Ай бұрын
Ill have to say Dave can be mean, sometimes to people who he misunderstands in the comments if the comments arent entirely clear. Then again, its usually well deserved and he clearly has 0 patience for BS anymore.
@ivmi1702
Ай бұрын
I mean he is a bit arrogant but usually right
Subboor coming in with big "hold me back, bro!" energy, here. Hell, if someone sets up a go fund me, I'll help pay to send Dave to London just to watch him ruin this doofus.
@uNiels_Heart
Ай бұрын
Some subtext sounded like he was threatening Dave, though. (At least that's how it came across to me, doesn't mean it is so.) I know Dave is not scared and that's commendable, but I would be.
@cuttru8041
Ай бұрын
Maybe watch Saboor's other debates in an academic setting before you make that statement. Unless you are willfully ignorant, you should see his arguments hold merit even among other athiest/secular scientists.
@shassett79
Ай бұрын
@@cuttru8041 I'm not ignorant and his arguments are garbage. I'd suggest everyone go watch Subboor get totally embarrassed by skydivephil in November of 2018. Dave will not be as gentle as Phil was...
@georgehatzimanolakis1904
Ай бұрын
@@uNiels_Heartthis comment is kinda fishy, there were no threats of violence or anything
@georgehatzimanolakis1904
Ай бұрын
@@cuttru8041please don't set yourself up for insults
"thats when their public demeanor and decorum falls apart because they are in front of a live audience and theyre getting humiliated" you know, like James Tour did?
@woundedone
Ай бұрын
Twice. One time at his own university, one time at Cambridge round table. Lol
4:12 the pure hypocrisy of him saying "how can you shamelessly call yourself a professor" while he shamelessly sat and lied for about three hours about what geneticists and anthropologists do...
@ryuzaki5491
26 күн бұрын
The response by"professor" Dave was three hours. The original video was about 20 minutes long. Gg
@kemicalhazard8770
26 күн бұрын
@@ryuzaki5491 that's just a straight up lie... "Muslims Scientifically And Rationally Dismantle Evolution! Muhammed Ali & SubboorAhmadAbbasi" uploaded on "The Muslim Lantern" is 1 hour 41 minutes and 24 seconds long. It took me about 15 seconds to find that video
@ryuzaki5491
26 күн бұрын
@@kemicalhazard8770 My bad. It's still not close to 3 hours.
@ryuzaki5491
26 күн бұрын
@@kemicalhazard8770 Now watch it.
@kemicalhazard8770
26 күн бұрын
@@ryuzaki5491 i did.. Dave showed the entire video while reacting to it Just the part in the beginning when Subboor is claiming that “these papers disproves evolution” and he simply flashes some papers and *doesn’t even read the abstract* shows he has 0 interest or capability to read the primary literature. He also outright lied about deletions, insertions and duplication events, which are mutation events, not scientists changing the genetics of animals to make them similar to humans. If you actually watch the debunk, it becomes insanely obvious this Subboor guy knows less than nothing about evolutionary biology.
oh dave, i love your condescending attitude towards willfully ignorant people.
@Jrpyify
Ай бұрын
Cathartic lol
@commiecomrade2644
Ай бұрын
Its nice. It used to rub me the wrong way but after thinking about how little respect these types have for "mainstream science" ie hardworking people who have made all of our lives better - I decided that they deserve it. It is tit for tat. Can't claim earnest committed scientists are all liars or fools then cry foul because you got called out on it.
@ED-TwoZeroNine
Ай бұрын
No mercy 😂
@defaulted9485
Ай бұрын
Either it's "Return to Sender" or "Taste of his own medicine". That's the only way to get these people attention.
@irishpotato8786
Ай бұрын
Same
Professor Dave - if you want to learn, he's a nice guy; if you want to lie and misinform people, he's your worst enemy.
@shreyvarad
Ай бұрын
that's kinda the point. misinformation is the exact opposite of the stuff he does on his channel
@user95395
Ай бұрын
i'm a teacher, same way
@MoGumbo_
Ай бұрын
No way, I love your vids dude
@Revived4U
Ай бұрын
I want to learn
@edmundoandrade5113
Ай бұрын
Me and my homies hate missinformation 💪🤓
I guess after mentioning their offer to invite you to London, they checked their bank account and decided to stop there.
@uNiels_Heart
Ай бұрын
Now it will be interesting how they're going to respond in video (if they dare to respond at all).
@ateyzero
23 күн бұрын
they did invite your prof tho. unfortunately your prof chicken out
@abhiruproy1170
23 күн бұрын
@@ateyzero Oh really? Did they show any proof to you special fans?
“James Tour humiliated him” Does bro also think the Axis won WW2? What about the 1864 election? Lincoln lost that?
@chriscasperson5927
Ай бұрын
He probably actually believes that Dewey defeated Truman.
@PersonalUseOfUrMum
Ай бұрын
“According to my degree from the University of Reddit, we’re actually living under an Emperor right now!”
@omegatired
Ай бұрын
@@chriscasperson5927 Well ... there was a headline ...
@PersonalUseOfUrMum
16 күн бұрын
Subhoor probably thinks Han Solo shot first
'humiliated' MR FARINAAAA!!!!
@benjaminkoch2380
Ай бұрын
This will never get old 😂
@faelheavymetal
Ай бұрын
GO GO GO GO
@1nchwonder290
Ай бұрын
@@faelheavymetal YOU CAN'T DO IT YOU JUST TALK TALK TALK
@phammanh2689
Ай бұрын
MR FARINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!! HERE!!!!!!! GOO!!!
@user-vm3dd4yd2l
Ай бұрын
*looking away from the projector*SHOW ME THE RESEARCH
As an actual cockney Londoner, I embarrassingly laughed out loud in appreciation at your accent at the end! I haven't had a Butchers at your channel for a while, but this has drawn me back in. We know Subboor is talking Pony through his Khyber, but it would be awesome if you came to London to put him in a right Two and Eight! Keep up the good work Dave, I'm off for a Ruby!
For some reason, this video popped up, so I watched it. Not knowing the context made it a bit hard to understand what was actually going on. The clip of the man shouting "MR FARINA" had me intrigued, however, so I looked on your video list and found the James Tour debate you did. As a chemist, may I say bravo. You can't tell me it wasn't a little off-putting being screamed at by a maniac for 2 hours, though. Anyway, I have colleagues who say and believe "God did it" in regards to abiogensis quite frequently. I have repeatedly shown them papers (some of which you directly referenced in your debate) prebiotically plausible pathways for these early molecules which feasibly could have formed higher order structures on a Hadean earth over billions of years. It's really not that difficult to understand unless people are choosing to be willfully obtuse. Which actually pisses me off. I'm fine with someone believing in God or whatever, but when someone actively tries to ignore scientific research, which directly contrdicts their worldview, its time to reflect a little!
@SouIShot
Ай бұрын
If I may add a bit; Even if some people decide to be willfully ignorant, they can be so. Sure, I, you and others may disapprove of it, but it is their right to think and believe what they wish. However, it's an entirely different category of people entirely who dedicate themselves to spreading misinformation and actively fighting against human progress, like Subboor, Kent Hovind and the Discovery Institute. Those are the people who should truly be looked up with scorn, mockery and ridicule. Which is what makes me love Dave's content so much. Even if I fail to understand half of what he says, despite my best efforts, I can only applaud and admire his dedication both as an educator and an anti-misinformation-ist.
Doing all that damage must’ve annoyed them. Doing it while drunk must’ve pissed them off.
@elasticass
Ай бұрын
This was genious.
I can confirm the accent at the end is how we all talk over here.
@SteveBarnes0
Ай бұрын
Sir! How very dare you. I am speak like this
@BuIIetBiII
Ай бұрын
owright guvna! I spose I betta clean yor chimney!
@mythoed6651
Ай бұрын
You're from London ? Why do these motherfuckers talk like they own London ?
@YetiUprising
Ай бұрын
Bo'oh Wa'ah
@HarryNicNicholas
Ай бұрын
gor blimey, apples n pears mate. jolly hocky sticks.
"He doesn't even have a PhD" And their education is????
"Come say this to my face" taunts the coward while desperately holding the door closed.
religous apologists are the most humiliating type of people. They just warp what other people believe to what they want to be true
@Paladwyn
Ай бұрын
Which makes sense considering what they said about Dave. They just twist everything around and pretend the opposite is real.
@thatphatbaby
Ай бұрын
Thats the whole goal of religion in general. Get people on your side so you can exploit them and get all the power and/or money.
@SpydrXIII
Ай бұрын
it's always sad and funny when atheist know more about an aggressor's religion then them, and has better morals then them.
@Paladwyn
Ай бұрын
@@TheMessage2022 What belief?
@Paladwyn
Ай бұрын
@@TheMessage2022 I don't know of any atheists that believe that. I don't. It's weird that you believe that we believe that.
Never underestimate cult mindset.
Congrats on 3 mil man. We're going to be using your videos to help with our homeschooling curriculum next year. Appreciate your content dave.
I never thought Professor Dave would use Sans the skeleton talking effect in one of his videos, the world is a strange place...
@ProfessorDaveExplains
Ай бұрын
They did that, I just used it back at them.
@gonzalomeadearanda5751
Ай бұрын
@@ProfessorDaveExplains Hi dave!
@citizencj3389
Ай бұрын
@@ProfessorDaveExplainsi died of laughter when you did that outro. The shade was so thick that you gave the planet a worldwide winter storm 😂😂😂
@wolfetteplays8894
7 күн бұрын
lol same, it plleases the undertale fan in me
DAVE DOESN'T MISS
"this guys so mean for thinking creationists are dumb!" - guy who makes videos about how scientists are dumb
@TheMagnificentGman
Ай бұрын
They are ashamed of nothing and offended by everything
@Belayet_says
Ай бұрын
Proof?
@HarryNicNicholas
Ай бұрын
@@Belayet_says the proof is right there in the videos they make, hamzas den has had a variety of atheists - pinecreek, tjump, jack angstrietch and others and folks like suboor never listen to what has been said, never answer the question asked and all fail when it comes to science. even here all we get is a string of denials and personal attacks - no science at all and no actual invite, flight tickets, hotel booking - just the hot air of god as always. and creationism has been proved false in court, it was a hoax set up to get another hour of god taught in schools that backfired, the dover school board all quit before the verdict was in, it was prosecuted by a catholic believer who was sick of lies about god and the ONLY people who keep creationism going are religists -when 3/4 of the religions in the world are okay with evolution anyway. it's a dumb thing to fight over, fought over by dumb people.
@bilalhasan6660
Ай бұрын
Correction. He is not calling scientists dumb. He is refuting the darwinian theory of evolution and highlighting his flaws that people LOVE to take as fact.
@antibiker
Ай бұрын
@@bilalhasan6660 right he's not calling them dumb he's just saying the overwhelming majority of them are wrong and they, science illiterate morons, know better
After being called out so hard, they pretty much have no choice but to follow through if they have any pride left to lose. Hope you enjoy London, Dave! Looking forward to the debate.
@martin2289
26 күн бұрын
Professional religious excusologists can weasel their way out of anything with a new bunch of lies. It's just what they do.
Their only possible mitigation here is that in the UK the title “Professor” is reserved for heads of departments. Ordinary lecturers don’t use it. But then again, I suspect they don’t know that.
The honesty of this title is why I'll always support Dave
@freddan6fly
Ай бұрын
It was a bit too nice to Subboor Ahmad but I guess Dave have to comply to TOS and the swearing rules to get this video monetized.
@shyohevzion984
Ай бұрын
@@Gottamr if they REALLY wanted to send him an email, they would've checked his socials to see if it's there. I checked, and found it in under a minute in his FB page that's linked in his profile here. He's not hiding it.
@DavisJ-ln6fw
Ай бұрын
@@Gottamr It's the description section of this video.......😆
@HarryNicNicholas
Ай бұрын
if they had anything concrete they would sue. creationism has already been PROVED false in court in the dover trials. the hamzas den mob are just that, a mob.
@thekwjiboo
Ай бұрын
@@cuttru8041 so you didn't watch the debate with Tour then, did you?
So, an apologist says you're doing the things he's doing and doesn't do any research on what he's talking about. What's new?
@shreyvarad
Ай бұрын
this one's islam
@___Bruh__
Ай бұрын
@@shreyvarad same shit different guy
@shreyvarad
Ай бұрын
@@___Bruh__ well... yea
Ayo Dave dawg, the comments in his videos were all saying bad things about you and one of them commented about how you are always “cussing” whenever they comment on your videos disagreeing with your points. I want to tell you, from my heart, that maybe the best way to communicate with these Muslim apologists isn’t necessarily to reply to them with comments that are “mean” to an extent, but rather composed of pure logical argumentation and scientific evidence. I know most of the times they won’t change their mind, but it’s repulsive to them when you are “mean” to them. Other than that, your content is absolutely brilliant and scientific based. Keep it up, and an enormous amount of love ❤🎉
He's doing a livestream right now saying that the debate is being set up
@ProfessorDaveExplains
10 күн бұрын
What a twat 😂
@wofkwengel
8 күн бұрын
He sais he's a man of his word and it's definitely going to happen... it just "takes time"
@DavisJ-ln6fw
2 күн бұрын
Uh huh so were the email ? It's been 4 weeks.
@wofkwengel
2 күн бұрын
@@DavisJ-ln6fw He didn't specify the amount of time 👀
@DavisJ-ln6fw
2 күн бұрын
@@wofkwengel 4 weeks is plenty of freaking time to spend at least an email .
It's crazy how many people throw out the 'debate me bro!' defense when a) debating isn't how you do science and b) they almost never actually ask the person directly
@istvansipos9940
Ай бұрын
because they KNOW that 99% of their sheeple never watch the other side, and thus never know that no challenge was made.
@woundedone
Ай бұрын
I mean.. debating is a fine way to advance science though. But it has to be in written format and the whole thing needed to be public, refereed and peer reviewed. Otherwise it is completely useless to have people talking over each other, except for entertainment of course.
@h14hc124
Ай бұрын
It's exactly like "debating" the amazing ex-pat Taffy.
As a British person, you cannot enjoy London.
@dogwalker666
Ай бұрын
Agreed!
@brianhilario5230
Ай бұрын
Best comment lol
@mojomusica
Ай бұрын
You cannot afford London! 😅
@tmimify
Ай бұрын
I'm not a British person so I did enjoy London a fair bit. National Gallery, Natural History Museum and Science Museum for t3h win.
@joecantdance494
Ай бұрын
I love London! I mean I don't live there but still, I love it!
The most unrealistic part of his argument was saying that you'd be anle to "enjoy London"
@magnetiktrax
Ай бұрын
London is enjoyable as a tourist. I wouldn't want to live there again though. 10 years was too long, Amsterdam is way better.
@bewing77
9 күн бұрын
Agreed, London is pretty fun to go to occasionally, as are many European capitals. I wouldn't live in any of them though, but that may just be my rural biases.
Just when I thought Christian apologists were bad at arguing, I have to be reminded that Muslim apologists exist.
@Marniwheeler
Ай бұрын
Yes, when I discovered Muslim apologetics a few years ago I was shocked how bad the arguments were. I became genuinely concerned about the educational level of the majority of the population of Earth.
@wut_the_fug
Ай бұрын
Yeah, when i see science communicators or atheists mention lenski's long term experiment, at least christian apologists spew bullshit about the experiment that might be believable for avarage person. But the usual shit i see with muslim apologists is just them completely ignoring the topic or resorting to "why didn't they turned bacteria into reptiles hmmm?" Moderate muslim apologetic arguments are at least one and half centuries old.
@marvincool3744
27 күн бұрын
Arguing is plan B for them
@lucofparis4819
26 күн бұрын
This only serves to illustrate the major disparities between the islamic world and the christian world. Islam never had to face things like the Reformation and the anticlerical deist movements, hence it never had to put a sustained fight on its home turf.
@RoLaren-mk6nj
26 күн бұрын
Ya it’s an eye opener I incorrectly assumed ppl were just being prejudiced but it’s actually that bad. no sht flat earth level bad
"We need to bring him in front of a live audience" Yes Please! "but they never contacted me" Of course. what was I expecting...
@physetermacrocephalus9986
Ай бұрын
@@Gottamr 1 week old troll account
@DavisJ-ln6fw
Ай бұрын
@@Gottamr It's in the video description....🤣
@Maladjester
Ай бұрын
First, disclaimer: I'm 100% on the side of facts and reason. I could watch Dave clown on these fools all day. Once or twice, I have. With that out of the way, hate to say it but this is 100% a win for Subboor. He knows exactly what he's doing. Notice how he lied by not lying? He got the ego boost of blustering in front of his sheeple. The sheeple will conclude Dave is a coward and refuses to debate, reinforcing their indoctrination and loyalty to Subboor. The kind of moron attracted to folks like Subboor is therefore more likely to hear about him and come to his channel. If Subboor is ever called on his lies, he can say that's not what he said (technically true), not what he meant (which his idiot followers will take to mean Dave is acting disingenuously), or couldn't find the time (which he could if it was important but his followers will take to mean he's too busy doing all the other work Allah has for him), or he wasn't able to find the money (which his sheeple will believe even though GoFundMe exists and believers are so bad with money they'll send it to megapastors). He doesn't have to do any of the work for a debate but still gets to act like there was one and he won it. If the world weren't stuffed to the brim with weak-willed, emotionally crippled simpletons, guys like Subboor wouldn't have much traction. Unfortunately it is, and they do.
Dave is like the Dillahunty of science; knows his topics well, very importantly, knows exactly how to roll around in the mud & see through & call out bs tactics
As a muslim... im sorry for these silly muslim apologetics... I feel ashamed!😢😢
@Suiseisleeps1
8 күн бұрын
It's ok man No one is against Islam We are against Anti Science
@1love06
7 күн бұрын
@@Suiseisleeps1 Same! But these dumpster brained cells of human beings can be the most anti-science and most pro science when it comes to them trying to prove why Islam is "correct".... I do feel ashamed becuase their using my religion for their quackery of a joke!
@chantjelly6773
6 күн бұрын
I know plenty of muslims who accept evolution and see the Adam and eve story as a metaphor. I'm an atheist but I recognize that this Subhoor guy doesn't speak for all muslims
That's a great point. Why didn't they refute anything you said in video format? They'd have all the time in the world to craft a reply. Instead, targeting your channel name which is just silly. These people are way out of their league.
*During the debate* Dave: Evolution has been proven without reasonable doubt to be true through countless studies and even still we are finding new information that continues to prove it so and your arguments make no sense Those two idiots: Nuh uh Dave: Tf you mean nuh uh?!
@iiddrrii6051
Ай бұрын
No, Saboor's strategy is to point out that scientific theories aren't actually "fact". It's true, but oversimplifies science. He's a sneaky and slippery fellow using philosphy to attack science.
@edenswhateverchannel
Ай бұрын
@@iiddrrii6051 changed it to fit lol
@eddysch1840
Ай бұрын
@@iiddrrii6051 exactly muslim apologists are experts in liquefying everything but their faith moving every knowledge source to the "maybe or maybe not" region while claiming that their brain gymnastics are the only source of absolute facts 💀
@moon_wobble7782
Ай бұрын
“Is creationism science?” “No”. Why did I fly to the UK to answer that?
@turkeytrac1
Ай бұрын
No, evolution has not been proven, through science it currently sits as the most likely way that chamge happens in living organisms. Im not against science, or evolution, but there is a reason it's called a "theory", and its not the reason apologists give.
I find it hilarious when somebody insults another person and says he’s only a high school teacher. Which these apologists couldn’t achieve. Regardless of the truth of their claims. It’s difficult to take people seriously when they believe in magical human faces horses that fly with wings to heaven.
@aralornwolf3140
Ай бұрын
You can have a master's degree and be a high school teacher... A bachelor's of science is enough to get a person hired as a science teacher here (assuming they have the degree in education).
'James Tour humiliated Dave' ... I think when someone devolves into screaming all their arguements, they're compensating for the fact that they're wrong.
@NeutralDrow
Ай бұрын
Maybe they meant "humiliation by secondhand embarassment?" 😉
@chimpzchimpington420
Ай бұрын
@@NeutralDrow That's the only possible way that statement could be true
@h14hc124
Ай бұрын
Dumb people think that the louder a persons scream, and the angrier they look while doing it, the better their argument was.
Honest question: Doesn't it ever get very disheartening? Seeing how many people like this actually exist in the world? And then realizing how many people support them?
@ProfessorDaveExplains
Ай бұрын
yes
@mcalkis5771
Ай бұрын
@@ProfessorDaveExplains How do you cope with it?
@ProfessorDaveExplains
Ай бұрын
@@mcalkis5771 shitting all over apologist frauds and watching their followers squirm and cry
@mcalkis5771
Ай бұрын
@@ProfessorDaveExplains Guess I should try it some time lol.
@citizencj3389
Ай бұрын
@@user-rc7fr4ut2eghe fuck are you talking about? The verbal ass whooping Dave gave to these radical pseudoscience apologists is justified. And this is coming from me who is a PhD student.
Here we gooo , im grabbing my pop corn for this one
@basketvector7311
Ай бұрын
over all too quick
The Dick van Dyke level shit cockney accent at the end is a master stroke. Oh, and congrats on 3m subscribers.
I do hope you can come to London - either to debate these clowns or for other reasons. It'd be great to see that debate!
Why insult high school teachers? Most science teachers have a degree in the science they teach (yes, some take tests for a science credential, but it is less common), many have post graduate degrees, all have teaching credentials from university programs, and many worked in a science field before teaching. High school teachers can also debunk anti-science nonsense and provide peer based evidence (not me personally, but that is because I am terrible at debate, not because I don't know the science). This is in reference to qualified public school teachers, not private or religious schools, with little to no actual qualifications required. Conspiracy Catz teaches middle school (or high school, I forget which), and is an excellent debunker. I'm a big Professor Dave fan, but I am disappointed in the demeaning attitude about high school teachers in this video.
Me: [bored and sad 2 hours before work] Dave: hey, I made a- Me: YES
@nilahfay1650
Ай бұрын
Literally me rn the night before work!
My bet on what a debate would look like: Professor Dave asking him specific organic chemistry questions related to origin-of-life research and his only response will be philosophical thought experiments and tired apologetics. He will try his hardest to get the topic away from science and onto ontological arguments. You could send them all the scientific papers you intended to cite and they'd still show up unprepared for any of it.
@DetInspectorMonkfish
Ай бұрын
This is accurate. Only i would insist on using the term 'pseudo-philosophical' instead. He doesn't actually understand the philosophy.
@watcher235711
Ай бұрын
Don't forget "Deletion and insertion" used wildly wrong!
@sethboyce3941
Ай бұрын
Would that be like how james doesnt understand theology (see: him calling babalonian gods "trash from the primordial soup" and dave showing how hebrew mythology borrowed lots of ideas from it)
@sethboyce3941
Ай бұрын
"the term did not come from you modern day OoL researchers, it actually came from the Babylonians. And from that also came their gods. It's trash" actual quote
I honestly find your no-bullshit approach refreshing. So many people peddling complete bullshit with no consequences, and too many science-based channels that don't have a firm enough approach to counter this crap.
The "MR. FARINAAA" clip will never stop amusing me
Hi Dave, I'm a Muslim AND a loyal viewer of yours (mainly cuz I owe you for saving me during O-Chem I & II lol). You've inspired me to communicate these topics to my Muslim-majority home country once I finish my Chemistry undergrad here, the US of A. Please, don't stop doing any of these, I feel like it is necessary for everyone, especially the Muslim community, to be aware of the progress done by evolutionary scientists. I admit, I do consider myself a conservative Muslim and yet, I'm still able to comprehend the importance of these topics and retain my faith, it is really not that hard if you have a surface knowledge of both.
@suksuk5191
Ай бұрын
i haven't been keeping up with this beef, what are they arguing about? - a muslim med student
@JGM0JGM
Ай бұрын
"I'm still able to comprehend the importance of these topics and retain my faith" Ah, so you're an expert on cognitive dissonance then... 🙂
@magicrectangleEnt
Ай бұрын
The line “it’s not hard to comprehend evolutionary science and retain my conservative Muslim faith if you have a surface knowledge of both” I’m assuming includes some form of typo, but even if it doesn’t… I‘ll always be in the corner of people who are willing to let their point of view evolve over time instead of clinging to something and rejecting everything that doesn’t match.
@bobbobby3085
Ай бұрын
@@JGM0JGMNo he’s a rational person keeping his faith and learning what he loves I say kudos to him
@bobbobby3085
Ай бұрын
@@andybeans5790Islams position on evolution is quite ambiguous so his positions and Subhoor’s position are alright they can both exist with their different views
Well, James Tour certainly had a meltdown when he was confronted. Did they miss that part of the debate? The part where he was shouting that because Prof. Dave didn't write it on the blackboard, this argument was invalid?
@uNiels_Heart
Ай бұрын
I think their primary concern is to discredit Dave to their viewers, to hope that they believe them and that they never go to the actual video and check.
@dimitriuss
Ай бұрын
Tour's video comment section is literally the same as daves, except all his followers talk about how stupid anyone is that thought that Dave won. Point is, The facts dont matter, its all about deception.
@h14hc124
Ай бұрын
I think the probem is that sensible people like you and I think that winning an argument means presenting supporting facts, and being able to highlight the problems with the opposing view. But for James Tour's supporters, winning a debate means being louder and angrier than the other person.
@omegatired
Ай бұрын
@@h14hc124 They missed the "the first person who shouts loses" rule of debate?
Dave trying to get a free vacation out of this
Thanks Dave! I was having a really rough day and you put a much needed *Smile* on my face 😊
I wouldn't accept this debate even if the invitation was delivered personally. When people puff their chest and say "come to London you'll have a lovely time", you will not have a lovely time
@uNiels_Heart
Ай бұрын
Ah, glad that I'm not the only one who heard this subtext. It's likely they were just bluffing in regards to this or at least I hope so.
@T.E.S.S.
Ай бұрын
why not
@TheDarkSide11891
Ай бұрын
@@T.E.S.S.It usually ends with someone "getting the point". In the most literal sense possible.
@pureflix8086
Ай бұрын
@@TheDarkSide11891exactly. Its a subtle threat, wrapped in a bluff.
@reubenwills9757
Ай бұрын
@@TheDarkSide11891no it doesn’t stop fear mongering
He’s so mean I love him.
@durden91tyler
Ай бұрын
theres no more sagan, dawkins, or hitchens with enough energy to do what hes doing anymore, i hopemore people like him are on youtube and i just cant find them.
@RJS2003
Ай бұрын
You mess with Dave you get war. He's coming for your head. This is oddly analogous to the Kendrick Vs. Drake beef.
@Spellweaver5
Ай бұрын
@@durden91tyler there's Aron Ra.
@GiovanniGeo
Ай бұрын
@@durden91tyler Gutsick Gibbon is a lighter version of Dave too. She is more subtle and refined but her insults are cathartic as well. She speaks mainly about human evolution, in case you dont know her.
@diarmuidkuhle8181
Ай бұрын
@@durden91tyler Try Logicked for a more intellectual approach, and Sir Sic for a sarcastically humorous take-down angle. Both brilliant.
You should make a side channel called "Professor Dave Doesn't Explain" and every video is you staring at the camera in silence for 20 minutes.
@shinji391
27 күн бұрын
That is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever read.
I hope you understand how huge of an inspiration you are to so many people. Unfortunately, the scientific community is in desperate need of more people like you who are willing to absolutely bludgeon spreaders of irrational thinking, because it seems humiliation is the only way they will crawl back into the holes from which they emerged.
@ProfessorDaveExplains
Ай бұрын
That's exactly how I see it! Please convince all the naysayers who whine about how mean I am.
@citizencj3389
Ай бұрын
@@ProfessorDaveExplainsLet them cry and rage against the dying light of their irrationality.
Said it before, say it again. That Scorpio-Grimes-Millhouse portrait is off the hook.
@mjjoe76
Ай бұрын
The end credits song about Hank Scorpio is going to be playing in my head for the next few hours. _He loves German beer!_
@gwoody4003
Ай бұрын
@@mjjoe76 You Only Move Twice is my absolute favorite Simpsons episode.
@gwoody4003
Ай бұрын
Now that I think of it, the Frank Grimes episode is my next favorite.
@markblacket8900
Ай бұрын
how is it still on the wall then
@gwoody4003
Ай бұрын
@@markblacket8900 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Dads everywhere just sat up and slapped their knee, bewlidered by what that odd impulse was that suddenly came over them.
lol I just found out about this "beef" lmao its so funny. Thanks for helping me out on my physics and linear algebra classes this semester
Let’s remember our boy Dave was like 5 drinks in on his reaction video 😂 wait til he preps like Batman for the debate
This is abnormally funny because I was just rewatching the live reaction you made about them while eating breakfast when this was uploaded.
Are we seriously not going to talk about the god damn Sans Undertale reference at 8:15 ? Even Sans the Skeleton want's to see Subboor Ahmad have a bad time.
@ProfessorDaveExplains
Ай бұрын
Oh I dunno what that is
@ronexyt147
Ай бұрын
@@ProfessorDaveExplains It's just a really popular game.
@Emperor_Creeper
Ай бұрын
@@ProfessorDaveExplains So, there is this cool game that's popular where this skeleton beats you up if you kill a bunch of his friends, his name is Sans, and he's form the awesome hit game 'Undertale' when the text on the screen appears at 8:15 the sound it makes is Sans' speaking sound for when you interact with him. Anywho, I just think that's interesting that it got included in the video.
@davisdf3064
26 күн бұрын
"So... i've got a question for ya. Do you think even the worst negationist can change? That everybody can be a good science communicator, if they just try? Alright... well... here's a better question: *_do you wanna have a bad time?_* "
I got blocked by him when I told him to debate you. That should tell you all you need to know.
i love that youve finally given in and changed your videos to this kinda thing you are a natural.
"How do I make myself look rational and trustworthy? Oh I know, I should disparage teachers!"
THE TITLE LMAOOO
I never get tired of witnessing the reveal of the “Professor Dave” moniker not just being a neutral, factual description of the man, Dave Farina-but also the “superhero name” of pseudoscience vigilante, Professor Dave! *thunder clap, lightning flash*
I like how he started swaying in his chair nervously at the end at the thought of you actually saying yes to the debate.
Your swagger is crazy LMAOOOOO
Oh boy dis gon be good
The way Dave was tipsy, leaning into drunk and STILL was delivering facts with precision
The Dave vs James debate gets a sequel and it's set in London?! WOOO!! Count me in!! Also, I hope they do E-Mail you, cuz London is a wonderful place! You HAVE to visit the natural history museum!
3:55 Im calling it now. That is projection to the highest degree. That dude would fold immediately and clam in a real rebate without being behind his keyboard
@jmaitland5709
Ай бұрын
Honestly? I actually suspect it isn't projection and more of a threat. They don't care if they're wrong, they don't care if people think they're wrong, they want to stack the audience with their most radical supporters to threaten and intimidate those that argue against them. I've not seen the exact same thing happen before but I've seen very similar things happen before. People like us, or -James- Dave, or a genuinely curious audience, are not their intended targets, it's their own audience. They want to be seen striking down the opposition to reaffirm the faith of anyone in their own audience who might be having doubts or wavering.
@leonxpc1
Ай бұрын
@@jmaitland5709 Interesting comment. But Im arfaid I dont understand it very much. When you say threat, you consider them saying that dave would fold in a debate is a treat or you meant another thing? When you say people like us, who do you mean, Prof Dave audience or ? and Who is James ? James Tour? is James part of the us or is more like in general " all people in agreement and opposition" that dont agreee with the dude on the video ?
@jmaitland5709
Ай бұрын
@@leonxpc1 Not quite. What I mean by it being a threat is for when they're actually at an in-person debate. The whole "Why won't you debate me in person? Why do you just say words from behind a screen? Scared?" already kinda has the underlying hint that he would have something besides just words to be fearful of at an in person debate, but more explicitly, it goes like this: "Come debate me irl" the guy demands, if Dave says no, the guy goes back to his audience and proclaims victory, saying Dave is a coward. If Dave says yes, then he does as I said, stacks the audience with his most rabid supporters to try and heckle and threaten Dave during the debate to hopefully make him back down or fumble. Also yes, by "us" I meant Dave's audience, cause I seriously doubt that either of those two guys either hopes to or cares to convince any of Dave's audience that they are the ones in the right. As I said, it's performative for their own side. (I meant to type "Dave" before but flubbed and wrote James, I was typing while listening to the video and they were talking about James Tour while I wrote that I guess lol, brain fart, my bad)
@leonxpc1
Ай бұрын
@@jmaitland5709 OOoh I got it now. Thanks for explaining. I think you might be correct.
Please come to the UK I'd love this debate!
The challenge on an unlisted video and the grandstanding inside a closet they thought was closed is absolutely epic, how do you get served up these easy meals so often hahaha
even a high school teacher's assistant would know more science than these ignorant liars
@h14hc124
Ай бұрын
...even a high school *student* would know more
@omegatired
Ай бұрын
I have a degree in Philosophy with a comparative religion angle, and I know more science than these two do. Of course, I wanted to be an archaeologist and an astronaut ...
So, he keeps talking about how people like Dave fall apart in live debate.. but, they also know Dave debated someone already. Didn't look like Dave fell apart in the debate they are referencing. How much evidence do you need that Subboor doesn't care about evidence lol?
Your video titles are the most unabashed, unapologetic statements of fact and it I live for this drama
That “sweetie” flattened MY earth, Dave. 😂
keep doing what you do Dave! best wishes from a fellow Tuscan.
Dave, you should reach out to those guys and say you accept their offer. You should also do it in their video's comment section for their viewers to see.
@marknieuweboer8099
Ай бұрын
You and I can do that too.
@ProfessorDaveExplains
Ай бұрын
They've blocked me from their comments sections. And if he isn't a scared little bitch, he can email me.
@briguy677
Ай бұрын
@@ProfessorDaveExplains Would it be okay with you if I and others accept for you in the comments?
@ProfessorDaveExplains
Ай бұрын
Yes please go spam all of their videos with the link to this one. Put it in every comment thread. Rub it in their dumb faces.
@d_grimreaper
Ай бұрын
Dude stop, his email is in his channel description @@Gottamr
Those last 33 seconds at 07:50 are gold!
Subboor criticizing Dave for not having a PhD while he himself doesn't have one is peak irony
Are these the clowns that said evolution states that giraffes stretch their necks and then passed the longer necks to their offspring?
They literally don't know the difference between a professor and a doctor 😂😂😂
I love that they think that any time the upload a video Dave just immediately senses it and thats how "its been on his mind for some time"
Here we go. I see a great amount of content flowing out in the future. Best of luck Professor.
Hey there, I started watching your videos in 2020 when I began deconstructing my beliefs and after years of hearing Christian apologetics it was extremely refreshing to have these things debunked and explained in a clear way. I find your videos extremely healing and I wanted to thank you for what you do. I can’t express how grateful I am for people like you who help us brainwashed folks understand the science we never got a chance to.
"Anybody with 2 brain cells will look at that coverstion and say Prof Dave made a fool of himself." Correct.
@freddan6fly
Ай бұрын
LOL, needed to read twice.
@antiksur8883
Ай бұрын
Eh, two is too many.
@ProfessorDaveExplains
Ай бұрын
Right. You have two brain cells. That’s why you think that dumb thing.
@antiksur8883
Ай бұрын
@@ProfessorDaveExplainsIt's a joke. And you literally explained how it's a joke.
@siaotak4657
Ай бұрын
@@ProfessorDaveExplainsit's a joke. Read that again 😂😂😂
Absolutely lost it at the end lol, Cheerio!