Coming from a black middle-class family, in no way can I see affirmative action as a good thing. Our society should be solely based on merit.

@briand3029

2 жыл бұрын

It is! I think the perception is falsely set that affirmative action just chooses students off race. That’s far from the case. It actually allows a review of students more on merit given their socioeconomic background, race, use of limited resources etc… myriad factors and race is really such a low factor more of a slight consideration

@blerr

2 жыл бұрын

Coming from a poor white family, I also agree. But, for me, I get rejected from scholarships due to my physical traits. I personally only care about what that individual as actively lived through not passively.

@MrUCL

2 жыл бұрын

You get out of life what you put into it. I can't help you untill you start helping yourself.

@lisalynn8441

2 жыл бұрын

Soon they will use affirmative action for illegals

@RickPatNB

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrUCL Not always true, but for the most part it is. Working hard obviously increases your chances in life. Just like a positive attitude will get you so much further than bitching and moaning about literally everything.

Affirmative action to me basically says “because of your skin color you won’t get anywhere in life without help” which to me is one of the most racist things I’ve ever seen.

@jdbertel33

2 жыл бұрын

The soft bigotry of low expectations

@RFXLR

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t want anyone denying me anything solely because of the color of my skin. Why would I want to gain anything by it either? It’s wrong either way and ultimately hurts everything.

@charg1nmalaz0r51

2 жыл бұрын

exactly its bad for the person being given something they dont feel they earned and may even struggle with being able to fit in intellectually or whatever the requirements were needed. The other person who didnt get it based on their incorrect race now has lost an opportunity they worked for. And society as a whole loses out because we have less than ideal people in positions they don't belong in. Despite all this i dont see what race has to do with getting in these positions anyway. It will more than likely be an issue with wealth. Which is a different set of problems entirely

@momcologistmakeupjen6197

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! Exactly this point! It reminds me of the argument that was put forth that black people didn't have access to get a drivers license when conservatives were pushing for ID's to vote. How many people said that it was a racist proposition because they supposedly didn't know where or how to get an ID, nor had one already... I mean, I had many conversations pointing out how incredibly racist that actual thought process was... but the point was lost on the sheep. They were just regurgitating the leftist media talking points and obviously not doing any freaking thinking on their own. Because anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together should be able to see it.

@blackswanstudios6632

2 жыл бұрын

One of the main things Van gets wrong is he talks about blacks being poor, but then uses affirmative action as a tool to solve that. If poverty is the problem, why would you promote a program that discriminates based on skin color? Why wouldn't your argument simply be "I want all poor people to compete on a more even playing field" if poverty is the issue? Van is using poverty as his argument, to smuggle in skin color discrimination as his tool. And that's intelectually dishonest or simply blind.

This professor guy is one of my all time favorite people from the change my mind videos. This is an excellent example of discussion, disagreement and debate all while treating one another as honest human beings with good intentions.

@Extravaganzoyeur

Жыл бұрын

He comes across as an awesome teacher / professor. I wonder what classes he teaches.

@dougr8646

Жыл бұрын

White supremacy and the patriarchy

@TeranRealtor

Жыл бұрын

@@Extravaganzoyeur He teaches hip hop.

@teeleetreasures5570

Жыл бұрын

I agree

@PBJ979

Жыл бұрын

Agree!

If you want to hire a quarterback for your team, and you look at 9 of them that all practice 10 hours a day and win 50% of their games, but the 10th guy practices 2 hours a day and wins 85% of the games… nobody cares how hard those other guys work, they care about results, and would pick the 10th guy because he’s more qualified.

@n.w.owhoknowstheshadowknow58

2 жыл бұрын

But the smart leader picking the quarter back can spot that his lazy attitude is going to catch up with him sooner than later because those working ten are going to catch him quickly and pass him in game performance sooner than later. 199 pick worked harder and smarter is now a 10 time Super bowl appearance player goat that no one wanted

@metaldamnation276

Жыл бұрын

And soon as he looses or struggle s a little bit … he will quit.

@NickB283

Жыл бұрын

​@@n.w.owhoknowstheshadowknow58 I completely understand your point, but the issue here is that I never said the guy that practices less but has more natural talent is lazy. If you go to school and you're smarter than everyone else and can do a year's worth of assignments in 3 months, you move on to the next thing and everyone else is still working on what you've already finished. I have worked alongside lazy people, and I can't stand it. We all feel that way, I imagine. I have also worked with people who were exceptionally gifted, and even when the rest of us work as hard as we possibly can the exceptional people still advance faster than the rest of us. Some people are just better at certain things, and that's life. If you need to hire someone to do a job and there's a guy that can just plain do more than everyone else, who cares if they're trying harder than him? Everyone should try as hard as they can and see how far they can go, but some people will still stand out because they're more naturally capable, even if it takes them less effort.

@Al-Rudigor

Жыл бұрын

This society has taken extraordinary steps to disenfranchise a certain group over a long period of time. It is okay to now take extraordinary steps to enable that group to catch up. Studies show that even now, if an application has a black sounding name, it has way less chance of getting read.

@chrhadden

Жыл бұрын

@@NickB283 people like that are very few and the exception to the rule though be realistic here.these kids arent genius s

When I went to college in Texas, as a lower middle class white male, my family could not afford to pay for my tuition. I took out student loans (my own choice). Even though I didn't qualify for student aid, and needed student loans....a portion of my tuition every semester was "set aside" for minority students that couldn't afford school. So, even though I couldn't afford it myself and took out a loan to pay for school, part of my tuition went to other people that happened to not be white males. I am currently paying interest on a loan to someone else that couldn't afford school that got it for free while I didn't qualify because I'm a white male. Affirmative action is cancer.

@redrum41987

2 жыл бұрын

You entirely wrong. Nothing you are paying is because of someone else. Stop blaming other people for yo your decisions.

@surleydrum

2 жыл бұрын

@@redrum41987 You're right with it being my choice to go to school and to make the decision to take student loans, I even admitted that in my original comment. However, there is without a doubt several thousand dollars of my tuition, and others, that went to minority groups' tuition as policy. Maybe I didn't explain it well enough in my original comment, but my biggest issue is - why inflate the cost of tuition artificially just to take a portion to give to a minority student who can't afford school? Even though I didn't qualify for aid (due to race and gender) and took out a loan (again, my choice), why is part of my tuition going to grant programs for other people? Those students have access to the same student loan programs I did, but I didn't have access to the grants because I am a white male. I'm not claiming to be a victim, just pointing out that the entire policy surrounding affirmative action is illogical in almost every way.

@remo27

2 жыл бұрын

@@surleydrum No, you are the victim of a racist policy. It's ok to say that. Poor people in general should get help regardless of sex or color. The reason you don't is that 70 and more years ago there was discrimination the other way, and 170 years ago there was slavery. Slavery which you had nothing to do with personally, and your ancestors might not have had anything to do with if they were all abolitionists, or came here (like most white Americans) in the great immigration waves of the early 20th century. I can assure you that the people who are making you pay this price (lost opportunity) are the same rich and connected people whose type ran the plantations in the past , who set up and enforced Jim Crow in the more recent past, and whose type buy products from sweatshops in China right now.They don't suffer. They never suffer.

@richardmyers7847

2 жыл бұрын

Aw poor snowflake

@beeaeidels64

2 жыл бұрын

@@redrum41987 When affirmative action started up, the colleges raised their tuition on every single person that has to pay for their degree. That includes the minorities who busted their asses to make it into a university gg

In your previous Thomas Sowell video, he discussed that a disproportionate amount of Black students were on academic probation at Stanford University, where he taught. He looked up their SATs & discovered that they were mostly in the 75%, which is very good. But, most of Stanford students were at 90 percentile. So, those students were admitted based upon race, not merit. This benefitted the university, but not the student. The university got to boast about their racial diversity. The students probably suffered from "Imposter Syndrome". They were far from stupid. They were above average. If they had gone to a state school, they could had taken tough classes & excelled. They could had graduated & accumulated wealth. Maybe they did OK with a prestigious degree. Maybe they graduated with a "chip on their shoulder".

@dennisdickson6210

2 жыл бұрын

Thomas Sowell is a treasure being neglected in this country, simply because he proves the narratives are bogus.

@jonathandorsey

2 жыл бұрын

And with administrative costs ballooning, now you are also saddling those who drop out with a significant amount of debt. Most scholarships that I saw when I was in college had some performance metric to get funding distributed. Failing out usually means covering at least one semester of debt from my experience.

@thecityman1910

2 жыл бұрын

GREAT job Kathy. I was literally just about to refer to the exact same video because Sowell specifically addressed exactly what LFR just said and did it well- as he almost always does. Plus you said it better than I could have. Nicely done!

@timcarr6401

2 жыл бұрын

Kathy, I though Sowell said that most of his students were at the 99% point.

@theroachden6195

2 жыл бұрын

That's kinda what Crowder was getting at just not as eloquently as Sowell. Van missed it.

He perfectly explained Affirmative action with his Hip Hop analogy, you thought was bad.

@shadowbanbaitaccount7874

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. It was an accurate inversion of the current criteria employed by their affirmative action policy, but he didn't get it.

@alannagilmore8982

2 жыл бұрын

I’m watching this from the future Van.. wanna rewatch? From a few months later? Love ya my man

@geolectric_universe

2 жыл бұрын

@@shadowbanbaitaccount7874 Agreed. I was a little flabbergasted that he immediately said it was a bad analogy.

@captpat6421

Жыл бұрын

Agree. The problem is that if one agrees with such an analogy the house of cards supporting affirmative action comes tumbling down. Affirmative Action becomes indefensible if you give up this ground, so it is a defensive react to discredit it without serious thought.

@chrhadden

Жыл бұрын

@@shadowbanbaitaccount7874 it kind of struck a nerve in him it looked like,he probably didnt care to elaborate on.i have had my moments.

I’m Venezuelan American (born in Venezuela), was ranked 8th in a class of about 500 in a high school that was highly competitive academically, earning immediate acceptance into any public university in Texas for being in top 10% of my class. I didn’t need affirmative action.

Van, take note: “One of the penalties of refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.” ― Plato

@WizzRacing

2 жыл бұрын

I hope he gets that...As someone that is interested. Will get elected and make decisions for him. Even he doesn't like it or want it. That is what Thomas Sowell is trying to educate people on. As life is full of compromises. Your choice is the one that is less destructive to society. Not to save everybody. As the world was born into poverty. Wealth is the exception. You can't have equal outcome. Just never going to happen. As not everybody wants the same things out of life. And you don't have to like Politics. But it's simply part of life. He can be educated and inform.

@zf5656

2 жыл бұрын

Nice quote. I wouldn't say that LFR is refusing to be involved in politics. Not only does he vote, he's politically influencing people on KZread; if not just to say, take a minute to think.

@acraftyhuragok7586

Жыл бұрын

​@ZF I would not say he is including people in ploitics. He is showing videos and inputting his life experiences. I do seeing him wrong on some opinions/points but normally his overall message is in the correct place. You can throw something in the correct direction but you do not always hit the bullseye.

As a minority, being raised with MLK color blind mentality, I have never had someone explain to me how affirmative action is NOT racist. You are specifically accepting or rejecting someone for school or a job based on RACE. That's racist. Any justification after that fact is simply looking to say why it's ok to be racist THIS TIME.

@charg1nmalaz0r51

2 жыл бұрын

the explanation usually boils down to its ok for my side to be racist because its benefitting me currently. Which is sad because you would think people who may have experienced racism and were effected by it would not desire to have those same thoughts and traits.

@momcologistmakeupjen6197

2 жыл бұрын

SPOT ON!!!!!

@grail143

2 жыл бұрын

Affirmative action was as important as forced desegregation, but has now outlived it's usefulness.

@offmymeds2994

2 жыл бұрын

Look up how crowder mocks milk jr. Crowder is b.s.

@chago4202000

2 жыл бұрын

@@grail143 Desegregation says you are NOT allowed to discriminate by race. Affirmative action specifically discriminates by race. They are the opposites of each other.

Just as someone who never had to study for school I hit a plateau of just my own knowledge. My plateau was calc 2 in college And that was hard because I had to teach myself how to study right there. Just have your son learn the tips and tricks to studying now instead later bc it will be a life changer.

I've been enjoying your conservative reactions. With that said, here are my thoughts on the topic of government assistance (not just affirmative action). It's easy to fool a group of people. It's difficult to convince a group of people they've been fooled.

@Rizik1986

2 жыл бұрын

^^^ Van ^^^

@bbsal4031

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, all that government money over the years has absolutely ruined so many communities; and decimated the family unit.

@stk8824

2 жыл бұрын

BB Sal, sorry to tell you, but YT violated your right to free speech. Your comment seems to be hidden. I totally agree with you though.

@Rizik1986

2 жыл бұрын

@@bbsal4031 Ya I got notification of ur comment but its not shown This is clear bias from YT and wrong

@bbsal4031

2 жыл бұрын

@@stk8824 oh well.

The fact there needs to be an armed police officer standing watch to guard two people who are having a civil intelligent discussion tells you all you need to know. Not only do some people not want rational discourse they will act violently to prevent it.

@eristicfreethinker2098

2 жыл бұрын

Some people? Leftist college students, faculty, and administration perhaps?

@neilruiters

2 жыл бұрын

So very true

@scottfree641

2 жыл бұрын

You are correct. However Eristic below comment is dead on. It's not some people it's ONE type of people. There's a reason the respect for Tulsi Gabbard by the right even though she's on the opposite side of the isle. She's a rare one who loves civility and discussion and debate. And there fore invited to what some would view as right leaning Television. AND why the insane left hate her for it. They eat there own, all they want is war, war, war. And sadly for them I don't think it's going to turn out as well as they think if they keep pushing for it.

@eristicfreethinker2098

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottfree641 There’s also a reason serious progressives like Jimmy Dore and serious liberals like Bill Maher are watched by conservatives. We don’t fear other ideas. We just appreciate honesty, even if we disagree. It’s only the left that seeks to cancel and control anyone who dares step off the plantation.

@scottfree641

2 жыл бұрын

@@eristicfreethinker2098 That's exactly right. We all know how this ends and it's ugly. Just keep giving them rope and the left will hang themselves.

"you can't beat racism by installing racism" Me: he *gets it,* finally!

@rahn45

2 жыл бұрын

Yesn't.

@chriswhinery925

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like Van was kind of all over the place on this topic honestly. When he says you can't beat racism by installing racism, it sounds like he's getting the point, but then later in the video it seems like he's still in favor of affirmative action. I think it's a topic he'll need to think deeply about for a while in order to come to a firm decision on.

@charg1nmalaz0r51

2 жыл бұрын

@@chriswhinery925 He gets it, everyone gets it but the ones who are benefiting from it arent going to give up their new government sanctioned privilege lol.

I remember my dirt floors and tin roof in Mexico. Everyone has it hard and its never easy. I have been taught good values and now I'm living one of many dreams available to people in the US.

I’m glad you are willing to learn. That’s the first step that I had to take by myself as well. Good on you brother. Edit; to counter what you said about everyone doesn’t have the same opportunities. Yes, you are right. But to quote what you said earlier in the video; “Life isn’t fair.” That’s completely right. If life was fair, I’d choose my dream of playing in the NBA, grow 7 inches, and be super athletic. No one is born with the mental or physical traits as each other, but to implement a rule based on race or sex does not fix this. It’s just attempting to fix a problem at the branch, not the root, without the equality we all want.

@chrhadden

Жыл бұрын

god knows i know that shits the truth

It was painful to watch you miss the point so many times in this video bro. Especially because you usually get the point pretty fast, faster than I could the first time I watched these conversations. I can see it's an emotional subject for you so I understand. Still respect for making this content.

@degenerate.3574

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah when he said Crowder's analogy was bad when it was virtually a 1:1 comparison really blew my mind. IMO I believe Van is a Lefty watching Right-leaning content. It has to be hard bcuz I know how I feel when I watch Left leaning chit 😂🤣

@elchamo14

2 жыл бұрын

@@degenerate.3574 he has said he's not into politics. And if you're not intentionally politically informing yourself (like he is starting to do now), you'll be on the left. The left has a solid grip on culture, through the universities, Hollywood and most of the media. So yeah I'm sure a lot of the things he's watching right now might feel counterintuitive or outright wrong to him.

@Mr05Chuck

2 жыл бұрын

Van is a indoctrinated lefty. Hopefully, these reactions red pill him.

@seannovack3834

2 жыл бұрын

There are exceptions to every rule. That said, as a general rule, those who achieve more work harder for it. If you try to completely refute statements that are 99% correct by pointing to a 1% exception, you are doing a disservice to the debate and to yourself. That is called "Letting the perfect be the enemy of the very good" To paraphrase Ronald Reagan: The man who agrees with me 70% of the time is a trusted friend and ally, not a 30% traitor!

@Melivilth

2 жыл бұрын

It is extremely hard to understand new concepts that directly challenge core beliefs. Your brain will work to actively undermine and deny that information without you even realizing it. That is why there are so many that won't even listen to the other side of an argument. It gets even worse when it is something that someone uses to support their arguments in what is good and correct and what isn't. Many people would die before they allow something to challenge a core belief enough to actually change it. Especially when they would then have to look back on past decisions and behaviors and see that they may have actually participated in perpetuating evils. As an example look at most any devout follower of any religion and try to convert them to a different religion or point out the ways that their religion has or is causing great evils.

Steven Crowder is not an intellectual like Peterson, Sowell or Shapiro. But he still makes great points. And he's really funny too!

@TheNinjakat2010

2 жыл бұрын

Hes a comedian first

@justincox2031

2 жыл бұрын

It's called common sense which is not so common these days.

@CodyCha

2 жыл бұрын

The only you need to win debates with liberal scholars is common sense AND facts.

@Mark-pz3lq

2 жыл бұрын

Why did you bring up that fact? Different people, different methods and different platforms.

No one understood why I had to study in College when I never did up through High School, and was skipped four grades and finished High school at 14! I wasn't mature enough to understand a lot of the studies. I read all of them later in life, and Wow!

I was told in community college that I would be eligible for scholarships because my GPA was 3.97. I only had ONE non A grade in Bio-Chem 2, because my roommate died and the other roommates were stealing from me. I got no recognition at graduation, but some girl taking easy classes gets a 4.0 they made a shining example of. When I went to the University and applied for scholarships, they told me I was not eligible for any because I was not black, a woman, pregnant, or a black woman. Period. Even a scholarship fund that I paid into gave me nothing back. White privilege is just something racists say.

They’re no such thing as reverse discrimination. It’s all discrimination, period.

One problem with affirmative action is placing people in situations they are not equipped to handle. I would rather see resources put toward making sure more people meet the requirements.

@yfzrider13

2 жыл бұрын

Affirmative action often causes extremely qualified minorities to fail out of schools they wouldn’t have been able to get into without AA. It’s really fucked up, because they would have done great at a top school. But they get put into a program that may be too challenging for them if that makes sense.

@Kunfucious577

2 жыл бұрын

That’s the biggest issue with affirmative action but the least discussed. What’s the point of going to school if you can’t graduate

@katyw8201

2 жыл бұрын

Trade schools is an important option that no one discusses.

@richardgrace5043

2 жыл бұрын

@@katyw8201 most people (especially young people) don't understand the idea of supply and demand when it comes too education and jobs... meaning if you go to school for something that there is a demand for then once you graduate you are now the supply and if there is a,shortage in supply then companies are willing to fight over you and pay big $$$ for your services (and that is what has happened to the trades)

@richardrabe7940

2 жыл бұрын

@@katyw8201 that why men are likely to go to trade schools now that why women now have average in college because men see no reason to collage when we can go to trade to do what we want

It's not a race thing, it's a culture thing, look at the number of fatherless homes in the black community and the stark increase dirring the Civil rights movement, look at the people the black kids today idolize, the behavior that they idolize.

I oppose anything that gives preference to one person over another based on race. This includes Affirmative Action.

I listen to StevenCrowder for an hour every morning on KZread starting at 7:15 AM Pacific time. It’s a mixture of conservative news, comedy, and information media won’t tell you. Shout out mug club. ☕️♣️

@moseschew4538

2 жыл бұрын

YES

@CutThroatJuggalo

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂 "It's Sam Seder! What a fucking nightmare!"

This is how things should be. Two people who believe in different things having a chill and intelligent conversation without putting each other down and shoving each others bs down the others throat.

@Kunfucious577

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. This dude is doing a lot of good

@Kierrik

2 жыл бұрын

Best part is, you don't even need to agree. Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't.

@cindytisch1267

2 жыл бұрын

So very true. And without raised voices or violence, from either side!

@niecedspain3568

2 жыл бұрын

How adults act! These screaming, ranting, youngers need to take note!

@chicagomikey6416

Жыл бұрын

This is how society's have worked since forever... how we reached the level of ridiculousness we live with today is beyond me. As a conservative American I believe in debate and love when my mind is opened up to a new perspective I didn't see or know previously. I can't sit here and say that all people with conservative ideologies are perfect or tolerant but the majority of one sided debate or lack of debate comes from liberals. As a conservative a hate being put into a box politically but the display of nonsense that is spewed from the liberal party forces me to be a Republican. That doesn't mean I agree all Republicans or conservatives either...there are some really good liberal or democratic politicians and people out there that actually use common sense but the majority ... and I mean a very high percentage majority of the left are just insane and are incapable of holding a conversation with. The media is the worst. I try to watch channels like CNN OR MSNBC ECT... and I usually can't listen longer then a few minutes before I turn away because the nonsense they spew is soooooo ridiculous and detached from any sort of reality it's disgusting. I have a hard time believing these people actually believe the nonsense they say. It becomes comical when a topic arises and they all have the same talking points. People in different states, different channels all using the same key words as if some mastermind is giving them a script to read. Like is there some big morning meeting they all attend so they get their daily objectives... it can't be natural. It's just pure insanity to me.

These videos about current events are AWESOME. It’s refreshing to see these conversations about the necessity of respectful conversations. We all need to listen to both sides of these issues so we can make informed decisions. I so respect you for wanting to learn as much as you can. I look forward each day to watching your next video. 👍🇺🇸❤️

Thomas Solwell Steven Crowder Candice Owens Ben Shapiro Ben carson The Officer Tatum Dinesh D'Souza Larry Elder Jordan Peterson Anthony Brian Logan Voddie Bauchman Allen West These folks are key to the times we are living in, very worth listening to.

I think we all agree that class and income are the biggest factor in determining access. Where we disagree is the root cause for the difference in incomes. Racism is an insufficient explanation for the disparity between black and white, much like sexism is an insufficient explanation for the disparity between men and women.

@WarlordShogun

2 жыл бұрын

I forget the title of the book but Tomas Sowell wrote extensively about exactly that and he performed an in-depth analysis of what drives income disparity and it wasn't race.

@JoeBizzle

2 жыл бұрын

@@WarlordShogun Visions of the anointed comes to mind

@JoeBizzle

2 жыл бұрын

@@WarlordShogun oh, and Conflict of Visions covers a lot of this.

@UpYourArsenal

2 жыл бұрын

To further your point of the 'insufficient explanation': 'Black' people who immigrate from Africa are statistically more successful than those born in America (by 10%+, depending on the standard you are measuring).

@JoeBizzle

2 жыл бұрын

@@UpYourArsenal well, the "fact checkers" would point to the fact that we only allow the doctors and engineers from Africa to come here. It's not true, but sounds plausible. Also, they didn't have the generational slavery there the way we did here. This is also untrue, because slavery was the norm all across the globe for thousands, if not millions of years.

So glad you reacted to this, this is my favorite change my mind segment. This is how debating should be instead of just yelling at each other and shouting down people.

@bigbore4498

2 жыл бұрын

Because that’s not debating. That is a debate that has degraded to a childhood argument.

@dole8001

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigbore4498 sadly that is what happens most of the time

@Gutslinger

2 жыл бұрын

I personally perceive it as a discussion, and not a debate. I've watched various debates, and they're usually condoned under a timed and turn based format. It's more like a fight, intended for the audience to determine who the winner is. You don't really see people participating in debates open to understanding the points of other position. They're there to perform and win in front of an audience.

@syx3s

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gutslinger i agree. i personally find hostile public debates like that distasteful and non productive because you're really only able to judge the intellect and preparedness of the individuals and not whether the actual idea that they're arguing for is actually correct. i find it frustrating to watch a debate and see someone arguing your point of view but completely miss some important information either because of the stress in the hostile environment or because they just didn't know enough about the topic.

I really respect your opinion. I’m halfway through and you said that you’re jumping all over the place but honestly you’re talking the way most of us do. Not everyone is a politician so just being open and listening already goes a long way. I may not agree with all points but listening to you has also made me understand a different view. Thank you for putting out your view while also listening to ours. It really is for open dialogue between two people with views that may not meet but just being able to hear each other is one step in the right direction. Thank you again for this video.

I agree with you that blacks may not always have the same opportunity. But the place to fix it is in the school system and culturally when the children are young, not by putting them in a place they haven't qualified for and setting them up to fail.

I'm a conservative. I believe in a system built entirely on merit.

The professor is impressive entering into this with an open mind and having an open discourse. It doesn't really matter what his conclusions were but that it was honest.

@colinwalker4824

2 жыл бұрын

It’s nice to see someone with an actual wizard beard being wise and pursuing knowledge.

@carolrice5127

2 жыл бұрын

I respect the professor for sitting down and having a respectful conversation. Something that rarely happens on college campus with conservatives.

@valeriemckay7064

2 жыл бұрын

They prove it can be done, so good to see.

@devonjones102

Жыл бұрын

@@colinwalker4824 I can only hope to look half as good as that man when I get that age lol

@colinwalker4824

Жыл бұрын

@@devonjones102 agree 100%

Tennessee. Do not get pulled over in Tennessee if you are black. That's coming from a white guy. I have a good friend that was moving from AZ to New Jersey. He was technically illegally bringing his guns across state lines, but he was pulled over for what I consider to be "no reason".

Thank you! If we could all sit down and have a civil conversation like this the world would be such a better place!

If Asian Americans are doing amazing at school then there might be something in their culture that the rest of us could learn from them. The extreme focus on doing well in school in several asian cultures seems to be giving great results. So maybe it's a cultural issue more than something the schools need to correct? If you as a kid spent more time hanging out with friends than sitting in your room studying you didn't earn the same opportunity. And that's where the parents' responsibility come in.

@13thfloorlookingout19

2 жыл бұрын

You are correct, the Asians are more family oriented, hard working with high expectations for their kids to exceed. They work as a unit, from grandparents on down. They for the most part, take the opportunity given them to succeed and it shows in their work ethic.

@erynlasgalen1949

2 жыл бұрын

Not a lot of single mothers in the Asian communities.

Steven Crowder is actually an intelligent comedian. Really good at pointing out obvious things that get overlooked by mass ideological manipulation

@csmkorn1

2 жыл бұрын

He’s articulate and very quick/witty. “Intelligent” is a bit of a stretch nowadays though… lol.

@donavanmills1776

2 жыл бұрын

Mr Crowder is blunt brutal and honest about his views and opinions and I kind of like it because I kind of feel the same way he does

@chrisprimiano611

2 жыл бұрын

@@csmkorn1 would you accept "well researched" in place of intelligent?

@Jrocka7x

2 жыл бұрын

He's not funny though, and sometimes tries way too hard to be offensive.

@j.akelly9775

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jrocka7x I would agree that he sometimes tries too hard but he can be funny

One of the biggest take aways from what you said was. "Try to find a better way." That what gets left behind. People wat instant gratification but not willing to take a different route to achieve the same goal.

The best conversation to have is one where two people who have different views, can have a grown up conversation to express those differences and walk away w/more knowledge.

The thing is, that kid who can sit on the bus and do his homework in such a short amount of time shows that he had to work hard at some point in his life to be able to do that. Just because someone isn't working hard at that point in time doesn't really mean he didn't work hard to get to that point.

@braxindor4153

2 жыл бұрын

As a kid, I never worked hard on anything school related, but I'd be doing best in my class, or close. My only bad class was my Norwegian class. Prior to attending university, I didn't have the need to do more than read the book once early in the semester and then spend the break right before a test to get it freshly in my memory. It lead to a lack of study technique and a lot of hard work in uni, but the kids really might not have worked hard by then, just like I didn't. (Please mind that hard work for completely different topics are disregarded here. School just wasn't a priority for me as I had other things I wanted to spend my energy/effort on)

@Diddley_Squat

2 жыл бұрын

That doesn't make a difference in the argument.

@thefool5460

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with this. I am what you would call a geeky nerdy kid and I know people who admit their jealous of my intellect. I know that sounds braggy but they actually said that. But most people don't realize that I was homeschooled prior to entering highschool and it was extremely difficult stuff. They were preparing me for college at middle school level. The only people who fly by school without working hard are genius's like Einstein, Newton, and Stephen Hawking.

@SaydeeEnward

2 жыл бұрын

No this is not true. I was the same way. I never brought my backpack home except one time in high school, and finished 90% of all homework during the class before the class it was due in. It just came naturally to me. It sucked ass my jr/sr year of college though, because I literally had no ability to study, or even really how to study. I didn't understand how much not understanding one small part of a subject would snowball onto everything until I had dug myself into a far deeper hole than if I would have just studied it out right away.

@erynlasgalen1949

2 жыл бұрын

Hard work is a myth. I took to reading and arithmetic like a fish to water. I was frustrated with homework because of the time it took to fill out the worksheets with one busywork problem after the other. I studied before history and science tests because I was told to, and the tests were more about regurgitating dates and facts rather than exhibiting a grasp of the suspects. People don't like to hear this because it seems so inherently unfair, but I don't get bent out of shape because I will never be able to dunk a basketball.no matter how hard I work.if

The “Change My Mind” series is actually an amazing series. He covers so many things. You should dive into his videos in this series. I really enjoy the way he approaches the “hard” topics.

@colinwalker4824

2 жыл бұрын

They’re the best work he does all around. It sucks that there’s been such a big gap in them making change my mind videos due to covid

@tracyfrink3594

2 жыл бұрын

@@colinwalker4824 to be frank it’s the best work any journalist does. I can’t speak highly enough of the series. And even when they don’t agree when both parties articulate their points they end up shaking hands after words and having a great conversation about it. No gotcha moments like everyone has now, no trying to trap you with fancy word fighting just a genuine conversation.

@colinwalker4824

2 жыл бұрын

@@tracyfrink3594 my only criticism is that he can sometimes switch between hard facts and appeals to emotion or personal opinion in a way that’s kind of a flawed argument but because it is a very conversational approach and also bcuz he grants the other person the same liberty, I think it’s not a big deal. My other small issue is that on the gender issues he can be a bit more abrasive but from the videos it seems like he gets significantly more harassment from the crowds when he does those topics. He could be a little less antagonistic at times but you can only ask so much of an imperfect human being.

@TinyCochran

2 жыл бұрын

I REALLY enjoy his Devils Advocate bc he’s sooo good at making arguments for the left. It helps me and my temper approach these insane people with a clear open and calm argument.

"People get warned to stay out of a city". When has this happened outside of a movie script? Yes, it happened to Rambo, but he is a fictional character.

I was at a restaurant tonight older black lady came in asked all of the black customers if they had ordered ...did ask me even though I was standing next to register... she just stepped in front of me... who was privileged??

You have to give that Professor Props for having a Conversation and NOT yelling, calling names or trying to Shut down Crowder. He was calmly stating his views. About 65% of ALL College/University Students are Women. Mainly White Men NOW as of 2022 are Minorities in College/University because of Affirmative Action.

@elchamo14

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Although it's Incredible how the bar is so low that someone who doesn't yell deserves props

@dard4642

2 жыл бұрын

I love how the first thing they did was get on the same page as far as what affirmative action means to each of them as far as definitions or concepts. So many words and phrases have become so loaded that oftentimes we're arguing with someone or using the same words without realizing that they have different meanings for each of us and we talk and talk and shout and shout and get nowhere.

@michaelernst3731

2 жыл бұрын

@@elchamo14 You should see more of his vids. All the Liberals who Claim to be Enlightened all just Scream, Talk Over, Call Names and just act like Entitled Twats. This Professor was Calm and willing to Talk to Crowder. So Props to him for that.

@MrKevin486

2 жыл бұрын

Its more then 65% now.

@nicolebartlein1854

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrKevin486 *than

I am so proud of you. I’m a southern old white woman raised under MLK doctrine. This is one reason school choice is so important.

@3YearsApart1613

2 жыл бұрын

School choice is important, but what makes the most difference in a child's school is the involvement of their parents. Without a solid responsible home life, kids will not progress to their potential.

you also want to remember that with affirmative action policies, the people that do not test at the same level but get in because of race, may have problems graduating from the school because they can't keep up with the curriculum. It all has to be based on merit not race, sex, religion, or ideals.

When i was in high school my cousin was in the same grade and she would spend like 4 hours a night studying and doing homework and i would just do the homework in class and never study. You 100% right that some people are born with a different capacity. If any type of affirmative action were to exist it would only be fair in my mind if you were awarding people who studied and spent time working although there’s no way to prove and measure that

Change my mind is a great series. We as a society need to have more conversations like this.

@shanenolan8252

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed ruby , some great discussions or needed conversations

@chriswhinery925

2 жыл бұрын

It can be great when he's talking to professors or other people who might actually know something about a topic. When he's talking to actual students it can sometimes seem almost like intellectual bullying, where he's arguing a subject he's looked into and studied with some dumb 19 year old who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.

@AB-ol5uz

2 жыл бұрын

@@chriswhinery925 - it only seems like that if the student is so closed minded that they aren't willing to acknowledge they don't know what they don't know...and the students that say a fetus is just a version of bacteria on his change my mind about abortion videos deserve every minute of pushback that they receive.

@momcologistmakeupjen6197

2 жыл бұрын

@@AB-ol5uz I concur! It's their pride and that they are probably out on their own for the first time and rebelling against how they were raised, but not knowing any better, just trusting the media and what they see on twitter and facebook in an attempt to come up with their own thoughts, but at the same time, just regurgitating another perceived authority figures ideas as their own under the guise of being enlightened and knowing more than they really do. Not to mention, they argue emotions and not facts. They haven't matured enough to realize that there is so much info out there that doesn't support their claims because they aren't facts, they are manipulation tactics deployed by the leftist media to convince them if they share these views they are part of the "in crowd"... the dems can only hold on to people that are too lazy to research things themselves. Like Tom Macdonald said, "Bacteria is life on Mars, but a Heartbeat isn't life on Earth?" They do deserve to be checked. In fact, he's done them a huge favor.

I remember when I was touring colleges while in high school, we went to an HBCU. We were told by the guide about a minority scholarship that was available as a 100% free ride for white students, which surprised me. Getting a free ride because of your skin color so the school can meet some weird quota seems like a bad policy, white or black. Take the race category off of college applications so all they have to go off is the merit. This seems to be the best way to avoid racial discrimination as it relates to college admission. I can't think of any reason a college would need to know your race other than for discrimination.

@psd.3144

2 жыл бұрын

I think every school or state offers minority or other ridiculous scholarships. I remember I got scholarships for being black with a decent gpa, being Christian, and being a black Christian among other things. As far as that situation is concerned, I believe it’s because that pot of money is reserved for those who fit the criteria at the school and I don’t think they can spend it otherwise without justification. My school toured SC State and NCA&T and I don’t think I saw a single white person on those campuses throughout the entire day so a full ride is probably just because there’s less than 75 or 50 people who would get the benefit in a given year. Scholarships and grant awards aren’t a big deal imo since you still gotta pass the requirements to get them. They aren’t given at the expense of another in most cases (scholarships might depending on who is funding it I guess).

@user-ef4gf7rr9r

2 жыл бұрын

@@psd.3144 I would bet that somewhere out there is a guy who took money for being Black, Christian, Asian, Muslim, and gay. And more power to him for taking the system for all it's worth. We do need to stop this kind of thing, at least in public universities. In private, I guess you can do whatever you want, but you still shouldn't do it.

I’ve watched several of your discussion based videos , and really appreciate your honest and open forum… keep up the good work

I’ve watched quite a few of your videos. I can say this is your best commentary thus far ! I was a firm nonbeliever in affirmative action policies, You have shed light on a perspective that, on the face of it seems obvious, but I’ve not heard before and for some reason have not thought of myself. I can not say I’m swayed to the other side of this issue for sure, but you have presented food for thought. Kudos to you for that! For this reason I’ve subscribed and felt the need to leave a comment.

The government should never be the one to decide who wins and who loses.

Cool to see you reacting to Crowder! He's a funny and intelligent guy! You said the analogy about white hip hop professors wasn't good, but respectfully, I think you missed his point there. If two students or professors are exactly equal in merit but one is admitted in accordance with a racial diversity quota for the sake of the quota, it is inherently racist because it is discriminating against the other candidate based solely on an immutable, or unchangeable, characteristic (skin color in this case). In Crowder's example, he's simply exaggerating this point slightly to illustrate the point more easily by stating that if someone is actually unqualified but gets hired based on skin color, that's very wrong and I'm sure we all agree on that. Love that you're continuing to be willing to listen to new and different people to gain understanding! It's fun to experience with you!

@dewrus2153

2 жыл бұрын

Grant-Good explanation.

I live in Cleveland and was always in the Public school system and I will tell you we always had new technology and programs but most was damaged because the students did not respect what was provided for education. They tore and destroyed books so of course they didn't want to keep replacing them. Also no one ever joined the programs offered to them. I remember in Science lab students decided to stuff paper towels down the drain and catch the place on fire. I have also seen kids slammed through tables. This stuff is expensive to replace.

Whether they worked hard or not is irrelevant. The question is who is the most qualified?

This was an excellent conversation. Not an argument but a discussion. Well done

Women are often referred to as minorities, but in fact they make up more of the population than men, so they are actually the majority. Love that you have an open mind and are so interested in learning!

Love the ending. Seems like we need more of these discussions with as many folks as we can. People might see that being civil is a way to bring us together! Together is how we solve the problems!

I love watching your journey. Wish more people would make videos like you do about their own journeys. I personally, love to collect perspectives. Because perspectives brings depth to knowledge/wisdom

School choice from kindergarten to high school should be the right of every citizen. One political group is for this and the other is against it. That's all I got.

The beauty of change my mind is not what anyone specifically says but it's that a conversation happens.

I think what's most important in these situations is the recognition that WE NEED TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS! People need to stop steering away from real life issues and can't be scared to talk about race, religion, history, various perspectives and assumptions held by all sorts of people. Many times, I find people base their opinion on something based upon emotion and perspective rather than fact, logic, and common sense. Thanks for the videos. Keep 'em coming, mate! ***Notice how calm both guys were and how respectful they were toward each other the entire time!? Amazing! We need more of this people.

I’m white and have experienced the same thing. I’ve stopped to get gas and was told I was the wrong color for the area that I needed to leave.

Change my mind is an amazing thing to watch, sometime the discussion is nasty but it proves you can talk to people with different views.

@JohnMiller-zn9pf

2 жыл бұрын

to be fair, Crowder is always polite. The people who sit down with him become nasty when he doesn't agree with them.

@TheNinjakat2010

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnMiller-zn9pf yea should have made that distinction but if you watch then you know.

Van, I'm a50+ year old conservative, white, southern man. This isn't the first time I've heard you mention that there are states where certain races are not welcome. I agree that there are probably areas in any state where this is true for any race but I think it's unfair to paint an entire state with that brush. In my life, going back to the 70's and early 80's, I have maybe met 5 people who felt that way, but no one in the past 30 years. I know they exist but I believe their numbers are decreasing exponentially. Thankfully, channels like yours are extremely helpful in their demise.

@zgdafzgdaf4264

2 жыл бұрын

I took this comment to also mean in the hood are essentially to go zones.

@kenashburn5473

2 жыл бұрын

@@zgdafzgdaf4264 I also interpreted Van's remark to apply to hood neighborhoods as well as some backwoods areas. I don't think Van was being particularly one-sided. I just believe that in both scenarios we are talking about some very small part of the population and that to smear entire states is an over reaction to that reality.

@Morrow45105

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I know firsthand if a white boy drives through Camden, he’s getting pulled over by the cops and ticketed with a $1000 loitering fine. Just for being there. And if you go down the wrong street you’re getting robbed at the very least

The point is the person met the requirements/qualifications to get in. His score proved it and for some people, subjects come more easily to do well in. Let's face it. Some people are lazy and don't want to do what it takes! Some people work hard but they just didn't cut it - not everyone can

Dude, I love your commentary :) you're so down to earth. The world needs more parents like you. :)

What you said about your time being an electrician at around 20:00 is one of the reasons people advocate for school choice. With school choice, the schools would basically become like a business trying to attract customers who are the students. You'd no longer have a predetermined school based on your address.

STEVEN CROWDER FINALLY. He often times has strong opinions and his words are sharp but his content is so informative and entertaining.

@colinwalker4824

2 жыл бұрын

Dave landau is the best part of his show. Steven is for the info, landau is for the laughs.

@promisesrkept

2 жыл бұрын

…and TRUE!

@dercurt

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not a fan of Crowder. He cheers to hard for Republicans even if they're wrong. I lean conservative, but I call out bad idea and character. Lindsey Graham and Dan Crenshaw come to mind.

@shanustheanus

2 жыл бұрын

The change my mind stuff is where he shines. Usually. His comedy skits are fine, sometimes funny, usually middle of the road. His in studio off the cuff jokes? The worst thing I've ever heard in my life. I hate it. He's not a funny guy but he can't stop trying to be.

@colinwalker4824

2 жыл бұрын

@@dercurt dan Crenshaw is so far gone. Especially after that “don’t question my faith” incident I don’t think there’s much to rely on him for beyond blindly opposing the most ridiculous leftist stuff that doesn’t impact his or the governments income.

I have two favorite bosses of all time (I’m almost 42). One was my manager for MANY years. Ousmane Ba, who immigrated from Senegal. I was a supervisor, he was the manager of us supervisors. My other favorite is my current supervisor. He’s black, barely 20 years old. And he is amazing. Neither of them were given their leadership positions. Neither of them are “tokens” that were promoted because they’re African or black, respectively. They were promoted because they possess the skills and determination and intelligence and talent and because they were the best candidates for their job. Both of them came from very different backgrounds, but they both came from poverty. If anything, it is insulting to black people to suggest they “need” programs to succeed. Black people aren’t a charity case. They’re just human beings like all of us are. The suggestion that black people need the white knight white folks to give them opportunity seems very, very insulting to me. Obviously I’m a white person saying this.

This was a great conversation. I truly wish this was the norm. I love learning why people believe the things they do, it opens my eyes to things I’ve never considered.

I believe there's more relevance to class discrimination than racial discrimination in today's world. That doesn't mean racism doesn't exist, just that class is a more powerful component to negatively effect our society today. Great reaction as usual Van. Keep the conversation going.

@4TwentyFour20

2 жыл бұрын

yup

@chamboyette853

2 жыл бұрын

Agree. However racism and even institutional racism is very strong today, especially in universities where people openly discriminate based on race.

@rachelc8715

2 жыл бұрын

@@chamboyette853 yes, lots of universities openly discriminate against white people. For example, the black-only-no-whites-allowed cultural centers that are allowed in lots of universities today.

@geolectric_universe

2 жыл бұрын

@@chamboyette853 The only institutional racism left today is against whites and asians.

@chamboyette853

2 жыл бұрын

@@geolectric_universe I really wish more people would make your statement which is not only logical but irrefutable and evident.

I'm a member of mug Club. steven crowder is brutally blunt and honest on his views morals and opinions ,and I kind of like it because I feel the same way.

@morgankuikka4940

2 жыл бұрын

I dont agree with everything he says, normally on the religious points, but i also have a mug, i respect that he is hinest and straight up says he has a bias, but also encourages you too research and come to your own conclusions. He doesnt claim to be unbiased, nor does he just go"trust me" Plus i love some of the darker humor.

@DyvmSlorm

2 жыл бұрын

My son was excited when I joined and I gave him my mug. Unfortunately it broke and they are hard to replace.

@MelaniePoparad

2 жыл бұрын

I too am a mug club member. I agree with almost all of his views, but he is honest that he has a perspective and he has a bias and he is open with why he has views and does invite honest, open discussion. And he has some great jokes and sketches. I also like that he can be funny... the way comedy used to be and should be. It pokes fun at everyone and it should. No one is above a good natured ribbing. We should all be able to laugh at ourselves sometimes. Keeps us from being too self important, selfish, jealous, etc. Comedians censoring themselves (or networks censoring comedians) is one of the worst things for any culture. The jester always has to be able to make fun of the king.

What a great conversation, and done so well on both Steven, the professor (sorry I didn't hear his name) and LFR. Most of this social hostility we have today is due to people not able to talk to eachother anymore. And thanks to LFR and several other reactiors on KZread, I'm seeing comment sections the way they should be. People talking again in a positive, organic and fulfilling way.

So far, I think of both of these guys as Brothers. I also understand where they both come from. Hell, I am a white guy that attended a historical black college. Total respect for each.

I have never in my 63 years on this planet meet anyone who wished for slavery again😨

Steven has his flaws but im glad he's out there starting these conversations

The town where I grew up had a sign that said don't let the sunset on your black a$$. Shameful.

My school didn't have a computer in every classroom. I went to college. I used the library to learn how a computer works. There are opertunities out there but you have to think and work for it. It shouldn't be easy to get scholarships. There has to be some kind of effort put in to justify it. Not preferential treatment because of where you went to school, your class or anything like that. This is America where to reach the dream you have to work for it, not have it handed to you.

I like Crowder, but Jordan Peterson, Thomas Sowell and Ben Shapiro are a much higher caliber spokespeople for their positions.

@celebwenskye5446

2 жыл бұрын

Crowder is more like the ‘every man’. The others are incredibly intelligent, highly educated, well spoken. Crowder sounds like the guy next door.

@JohnMiller-zn9pf

2 жыл бұрын

to be fair, Crowder is also a comedian.

@TheNinjakat2010

2 жыл бұрын

Crowder is a comedian first, but does have a lot of facts and knowledge on these topics.

@Valkross9

2 жыл бұрын

You can think of Crowder as the Trevor Noah of the other side. It's comedy first, sprinkled with his interpretation of facts.

@TheNinjakat2010

2 жыл бұрын

@@Valkross9 Trevor pushes lies and racist thoughts, crowder doesn't, yes his comedy can be called racist but so is any good comedian. Dave Chapelle ring a bell?

I believe in things being "merit based". If you want something you work for it. If that doesn't work; work harder. I also see a problem with making every kid feel like they are a failure if they don't go to University. It's not for everyone. There are Trade schools and various other things people can do to be successful. Many kids who are bullied into college by their parents end up dropping out and their self esteem suffers a great deal. If you admit a kid into a college based on skin color instead of test score; you could be setting this kid up for failure. The school will probably be too hard for them no matter what color they are.

@StayTunedReviews

2 жыл бұрын

The issue with something being "merit based" is who determines what qualifications are needed to do the job? Those who want "their own" to be included in the organization? Because if that's the case, then its really no better than Affirmative Action

@1stsharkb8

2 жыл бұрын

@@StayTunedReviews , Your High School records combined with your scores on college entrance exams are what should be used for admission to be merit based. If you can't perform well in High School and dont perform well on entrance exams; you probably won't do well in University. It shouldn't have anything to do with skin color. If a company is looking to hire a lawyer; how well they did in Law School and on their BAR exam and years of experience should be how you determine who you hire. Not their sex or skin color. It would piss me off if someone reduced me to my sex and skin color. And it's not GOOD for people when you set them up for failure. You give them something you KNOW they can't handle just because you have to fill a quota. We need to solve the bigger problem. Our elementary level education system in this country. THAT'S where we need to start. That's where we give underprivileged people no matter what their skin color is a fair start. Parents should also take a more active role in teaching their children things that the school doesn't have time to teach them or just doesn't teach them. My youngest son told me that if I had not taught him the things I taught him at home he wouldn't have been able to do well in College. He said the school really didn't teach him HOW to study, HOW to prepare for testing, and various other things. All but two of his friends that attended the same schools dropped out in the first semester of college because it was too hard. You still have to pay that student loan back if you drop out! This just sets young people up for failure and debt.

@StayTunedReviews

2 жыл бұрын

@@1stsharkb8 Well what if you go to a high school that doesn't offer the best education or advanced classes? What if the school district where you live doesn't offer the best preparation for college entrance exams? This country was built off the Haves and Have Nots system and there's no true way to ensure that everyone has a chance to succeed.

@theelite3792

2 жыл бұрын

@@StayTunedReviews Tbh, if you went to a high school that didn't provide adequate general education, then going to a university where they expect students coming into to all have achieved a certain level of success wouldn't help them, that's one reason community colleges exist, they bridge the gap between high school and university, they have classes that range from remedial high school level classes to university sophomore. Also, they cost less than a tenth of most universities, often only being 24-50$ a unit (300-600 a semester) as opposed to 3-25K per semester. Also, some of the school districts and high school that have the most underperforming students and students far below reading level are also some of the most well funded school districts in the country. If a school has three to six times the funding per student that another school district does but offers a sub par education in comparison, it sounds like the school board needs to be overhauled so that people can in to fix the problems and hold the publicly funded employees accountable.

@theelite3792

2 жыл бұрын

@@StayTunedReviews The only way to ensure everyone has a chance to succeed is to give everyone the same opportunities, if everyone has to do the same things to graduate high school, if a university puts out it's requirements for standardized tests and grades and it's the same for everyone, those things make it more fair than life normally is. If some kids choose to put themselves into clubs or honors or advanced placement classes? Good for them, if a family chooses to starve to send their kid to a better school farther away? Good for them. If a kid has to deal with a school that doesn't offer any extras and only the bare minimum academically? They can still be the best student in a bad school. I've seen the list with an asterisk next to my name at employers, who hire based on diversity quotas, and how we were pigeon holed into simple tasks that are normally performed by lower level positions and prevented us from standing out for opportunities of advancement. My next employer who was only merit based? He didn't care where you went to school or how rich or poor you were, if you could do the work, you got the job, if you were able to do more work of a higher quality than your coworkers, you'd get raises and bonuses, if you lost the company money, you could get fired. Our top people were all minorities, and we earned it.

The message that the world ain't fair should be a given towards anyone, not just children. Yes, you don't always get what you deserve. But you sure as hell will increase your chances in life by working hard and having a positive attitude.

Crowder mentions that there were more Blacks in colleges before AA and then implies that AA caused that. I totally disagree. I believe, as a former teacher, that it's because of the quality of education. There is no doubt that public schools in poor neighborhoods have gotten way worse in the past 60 years. Lots of reasons for this, but that's when teachers unionized. Unions are simple democracies and simple, pure democracies are majority rule. 51 teachers can make policy for a 100-teacher school.

I think a big part of affirmative action is this: If the government can just hand out so many "free passes" then they don't have to put any money or resources into the black communities. They can ignore the struggling communities, look like the hero for mandating it, and it doesn't cost them a dime.

@ianroskam5131

2 жыл бұрын

It isn't the federal government's job to improve any communities. That is the job of the community and the state they are in.

@barrett75jb

2 жыл бұрын

@@ianroskam5131 I agree. But their local representatives are part of the federal government. And they're placating their constituents with feel-good policies instead of actual assistance.

@Diddley_Squat

2 жыл бұрын

@@ianroskam5131 amen

Armed security must be present to conduct a respectful and rational conversation. Bigger issue than the topic in my opinion.

@singularleaf3895

2 жыл бұрын

If you seen some of his other Change My Mind segments, you would understand, if I remember correctly abortion was pretty heated.

The way your videos get right into the action is awesome! You work your promos into the reaction. Not that some content creators don't knock their opens out the park but most are long and drawn out. Plus at times I'm learning information right along with you love your content. I have to surf your channel so I don't ask for something you've already done.

Keep watching these videos that make you use logic and reasoning...and you will take the red pill with a smile on your face

Exactly dude, supplying tools for success is the ultimate equalizer, not lowering the bar for black people.

The concept of “affirmative action“ was originally meant to be inclusive, and non-prejudice. Employers who adopted this program are supposed to not hire in regards to race, creed, color, sex, or national origin. The problem, is that’s NOT how it’s being practiced. Let me give you an example: Years ago I took the police officer civil service exam for Rochester New York. On the back of the test booklet we had to put our thumbprint along with our signature, acknowledging that one out of every three officers hired must be a minority…REGARDLESS OF QUALIFICATION OR GRADE. It was explained that this was because of a federal court ordered affirmative action program. I got a 96 on that exam! And I never even got a notification to be processed! I never even got called for an interview. I found out later on that some of the Women, Hispanic, and black applicants were processed and HIRED with grades as low as the upper 70s. Now I’ll ask you all…HOW ON EARTH IS THAT EQUALITY?! How is that FAIR? Because all you’re doing is practicing reverse discrimination. If you want things to be equal… Then lets keep it EQUAL. You can’t go reversing things with the idea that, “well it’s our turn now“… Cuz it doesn’t work that way!

@eileencastillo6323

2 жыл бұрын

How did you learn the test scores of other applicants? Did you actually inquire and recieve the answers to your questions and conformation of your assumptions? It wasn't a satisfactory solution for leveling the playing field because you can't force people to change who they are just like that. This solution just forever bound the minorities who were hired, to continually having to prove their worthiness.

@jimbigboystoys4077

2 жыл бұрын

@@eileencastillo6323 Yes I did inquire, and get answers. They don’t tell you the names of people. But they do show you how many applicants were processed, and what their test score was. Test scores for hired civil service employees are on their permanent record.

@eileencastillo6323

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimbigboystoys4077 They passed the test. You know that those tests do not reflect how well someone will do on the job after training. Unique to other jobs though, law enforcement being a position of armed power and authority dealing with the public, I think that one out of every three hired being a minority, should be a hiring policy no matter what. Regardless of affirmative action laws. I am not going to deny the unfairness of a high test score being passed up though. Obviously, that sucks big time. I would feel the same way if my high test score was passed up. I'm a Hispanic female.

@erynlasgalen1949

2 жыл бұрын

As originally envisioned, affirmative action meant that two applicants being equal in aptitude and qualifications the minority would get an extra point in recompense for the fac5 that their category had previously been excluded regardless of ability. That seemed reasonable, but no one said how long this policy would last and when the old wrongs had been righted. It has been fifty years or more and we still haven't achieved equity

@jimbigboystoys4077

2 жыл бұрын

@@eileencastillo6323 Well I agree and disagree with you. First off, I never said they didn’t pass the test. All I said is they were chosen from the list before others with higher grades because of their minority status. And I agree that grade doesn’t always reflect how well an officer will do on the job. There’s a lot of other qualifications that go into it besides test grade. However, the part I don’t agree with you on, is where you said one out of every three should be the department policy anyway. WHY? If we’re looking for FAIRNESS and EQUALITY…then just simply hire the most QUALIFIED people. Look…if you as a Hispanic woman, the black guy down the street and myself we’re candidates together, and you and him had better qualifications than me… Then darn it… you and him should get the job before me. End of story. I would have no problem with that whatsoever. But to hire with ANY KIND of special consideration to race creed color sex or national origin, in my opinion, is not right. I agree with you that civil service test score alone does not dictate how well someone will do on the job…..But neither does being in a minority status either. The bottom line, at the end of the day, all I expect, and so should everyone else, is equality and fairness. And in a strange way, classifying people in separate categories is…Well…SEGREGATION. We need to get past that kind of divide.

Never forget the influence of the family. Without parents who push education, kids won’t go very far.

Schools providing computers, etc., doesn't mean the schools don't have money. It means the local government is not spending the money on the schools like they should. Very sad

Maybe some old beliefs rising up instinctually in this assessment. Change is a slow process for all of us.

@seanhunnicutt4829

2 жыл бұрын

I've watched quite a few of these reactions and see some growth in his acceptance of different ideas, but there's times like this where he makes a couple of good points, but surrounds them with a bunch of ignorant ones that make him sound like he still has that prejudicial chip on his shoulder, and that disappoints me. He's flip flopping on his standpoint and reverting 2 steps back to his old self for every step forward in growth in acceptance to openness of opinion. And, I'm sorry, but if you're going to believe testimonials from celebrities on TikTok and the like making claims that the Southern states' police is the same as it was1950. The majority of those today are from attention seekers looking to stir things up. It would also help if on some of these videos he knew the timeline of their release and full context, as well as not keep pausing before hearing rebuttals because he has an assumption, because that clouds your judgment. Doing some independent research would help, because if your sole source for broadening yourself with new ideas and information is partisan media and internet, such as social media filled with opinions and half truths, you will never form a truly open mind.

@dlehmann8353

2 жыл бұрын

@@seanhunnicutt4829 Bravo! I actually lost patience and unsubscribed... and said I'd return in a few months to see if he has evolved.... But I saw him reviewing Steven and thought this should be good but not staying because you and Dadpool have helped me save time... I see I'm not the only one who is "pained" by his hesitant growth. He is on the right track though... it may take some time

@ednicolle2456

2 жыл бұрын

@@seanhunnicutt4829 yes mate totally agree. it is what it is and i respect the growth, but it is what it is. this seems to be america nowadays, at least looking as an outsider

Cool to see you checking out Crowder .. I believe that he’s incredibly misrepresented.. I’m sure you’ll be fair !

@janelleg597

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with a lot of SC's stances but can't stand his show lol. His change your mind series are awesome. Really appreciate those, learn something every time!!

truck driver here. white boy, corn fed meat head. I've been in Compton, Gary, and few others where the police stopped me and told me to get out. it goes both ways. my response is I'm leaving when I'm done.

"Diversity is not found in counting and measuring our physical differences. Diversity is achieved when the physical differences between us cease to matter at all." ~ Philip Brower

I really disagree with you downplaying "hard work". Almost any reasonable goal can be achieved with hard work.

I can't believe that some people don't instinctively realise that 'affirmative action' is racist just upon hearing the idea. I'm not saying they're stupid. I just can't understand how they don't _feel_ that it's wrong and discriminatory.

Thank you! It's great to help out people in other countries that are in great need, but not until every American man, woman and child had their needs met. When we have people living on the streets, eating from garbage cans, starving, freezing to death including children and veterans, our focus needs to be meeting their needs.

you nailed it. The MONEY to go is how you equal out the opportunity. Not the requirements to get into the school. If you can get in based on merit, but don't have the money to pay for it, then that is where the effective change can, and should, happen. To the other point of well, if these kids get a crap education prior to applying for college...then that is an issue with the primary and secondary education, not the college. A completely different conversation.