The funniest part of this interview was after it, the BBC carried out a full audit of their own pay structure and found there was more men being underpaid than women and because of it more men got raises than their female counterparts, classic .

@patinho5589

2 жыл бұрын

That’s too funny!! First time I’m hearing this.

@shadowkiller123

2 жыл бұрын

I thought that was google, did the bbc do it as well?

@Swaggmire215

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

@hagakure81

2 жыл бұрын

omg thats hillarious. I had no idea that had happened

@shadowpowahful

2 жыл бұрын

Really.. wow

I am a woman and retired Engineer, this interviewer has been drinking too much angry feminist kool-aid. What Mr. Peterson is saying is absolutly true, if she would listen to his answers instead of trying to bait him into an embarrassing sound bite she might learn something that would make her life more fulfilling. I had two very different career paths in my life, counseling and coaching until my children were on their own and then through some unexpected turn of events I became an Engineer in an Aerospace firm where I worked until my retirement, 15 years later. If she would listen he is trying to tell her there are several critical criteria which determine outcomes, she is looking at an average outcome without being willing to listen to the contributing factors, she will end up with unintended consequences much worse than where she is now because she would not look objectively at all the facts.

@colemcleod941

2 жыл бұрын

Marry me. Oh, dammit, you've married already. DAMMIT.

@TheKeystoneChannel

2 жыл бұрын

Amen to that. I agree wholeheartedly with Jordan as a woman

@macmusic08

2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant comment. Thank you for sharing your perspective.

@diannwhitaker6

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not feminism, it’s misandry.

@ktgo4424

2 жыл бұрын

Great post. There are so many instances where studies only tell an overview that points out that there is a difference, or a problem, or a gap (between genders, races, etc...), but none of them offers any real dive into WHY. It's then, usually the media that takes that study, and starts writing their own opinions, without looking at why. The why is so important. Anyone who wants to know the truth wants to know why.

I forgot how hard this interview was to get through. "so you're saying", "no I'm not saying", "but you're saying", "no I didn't say that"

@hza1203

2 жыл бұрын

Right? CRINGING every time she opened her mouth 🤦🏻‍♀️

@brandonr8269

2 жыл бұрын

You think she's married? Wonder what that relationship is like, if so. Low performance man in her life? Just a guess, I actually have no idea.

@carolinebyrne9392

5 ай бұрын

DADDYS DESPERATLY KNEED TO GO BACK TO TEACHING THERE LITTLE BOYS TO GROW UP TO BE REAL MEN WHO TREAT WOMAN LIKE QUEENS AND MUMS TRACH YOUR DAOUGHTERS THAT YOU WONT ACCEPT ANMYTHING ELSE FROM A MAN

I love when he says, “ I choose my words very, very, very, very carefully.”

@wesleyball1205

2 жыл бұрын

Rule 10: be precise in your speech.

That woman is absolutely disengenious. Constantly distorting his arguments and putting words in his mouth. Jordan Peterson is an absolute legend for pausing and reaffirming his original arguments over and over, to make sure no one sides with what she was saying he said. Stand up for your points and values!

@bradp5848

2 жыл бұрын

She's is more foolish than disingenuous. Trying to shoe horn the interpretations the thoughts of a psychologist is similar to translating a language she isn't fluent in. There are 19 reasons he can give on the pay gap. If women really want to close it quickly then they will have to work in career fields that are undesirable. Engineering fields, high risk high reward outdoor or ocean voyage commodities, and 80+ hour workweeks dedicated to management. These are filled by men because traditionally women have not chosen these fields. Social sciences and education are off limits as they are on the lower end of wages and hold back the gender gap. And then realizing that stay at home women raising families who don't earn income are still calculated into the equation. Their choice of major in college will have to be in studies that put income over interest as well. 5 women compared to 1 man earning 0$ would cover the %9 alone depending on the country and region within that country. I don't blame women for not wanting to work unfulfilling, unhealthy, or inflexible careers after college. Wanting to earn more will mean giving up goals and desires as a result. Women in male dominated fields vastly out earn their peers the same as male RNs earning more than most female RNs. She mentions 7 out of however companies are led by women but hasn't asked the more important question: how many would choose 12 hour days as CEO over having children, seeing family, staying married, or just plain unhappy as a person. Who would choose earning a million annually guaranteed if a perk package covers a new car, miserable off hours, unpopular and cruel decision making, and the best healthcare for chronic and declining health.

@lll9416

2 жыл бұрын

She brought a knife to a gunfight

@LN-Lifer

2 жыл бұрын

She has to distort his arguments to make her on. Because what he is actually saying can not be denied

@royce7200

2 жыл бұрын

Respect @Iulia Bianca, good for you for prioritizing your soul and happiness over the dollar bill. Jordan has said before that the pay gap is not really men vs woman, it is more accurately, men and woman who don't prioritize families and pause their careers to have kids vs woman who do have kids. Simply put it's like this, if you are very good at what you do, companies will promote you to the top and pay you big, *REGARDLESS* of what you have between your legs, and the second your value drops to them, companies will forget you faster then you can scream "male patriarchy" if there is someone they can replace you with that can bring in more money. You are only as good as the last quarter in their eyes, because share holders mean more to them then your happiness. Welcome to capitalism, it is far from perfect, even a bit cruel at times but based off history it seems a lot better then the alternatives since this system has pulled more people out of poverty then any other system in history.

@AMikeStein

2 жыл бұрын

I lost count the amount of times she straw manned his arguments. This was painful to watch.

I love his sly little smiles when he's asked loaded questions and he knows what they're asking and he utterly refuses to roll over for them.

@aawalkonkos8759

2 жыл бұрын

It’s like he says to himself “what is this madness 🤣🤣” and then relaxes and answers

I love that Jordan never loses his cool. He knows he’s the smartest in the room!

@phasespace4700

2 жыл бұрын

Loses his cool all the time. When he gets a bad review for the idiotic filth he writes, he hurls obscenities and physically threatens the reviewer. 😂😂

@OrkanKurter

2 жыл бұрын

@@phasespace4700 Oh how I would love for you to prove that. But you won't. You just want to smear people with shit. What a sad way to spend your time. You could at this very moment be trying to improve your life. But you will rather talk lies about someone who does nothing but try to help people do just that.

@dennisjr77

2 жыл бұрын

@@phasespace4700…….. lol, let me guess…… you think he’s transphobic

@phasespace4700

2 жыл бұрын

@@dennisjr77 He claims there are ghosts in the trunk of his car and that he went 25 days without sleep after overdosing on apple cider. He’s sanity-phobic.😂

I love this interview because 100% of all her questions are followed by answers and push backs she didn't want. Even her attempts of cutting him off so he couldn't push back failed. He never lost his temper and that is another thing that didn't go the way she wanted it to go.

This was not an interview, it was a free therapy session for this lady...

@kingbertie

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think she learnt anything from it though.

@hebercluff1665

2 жыл бұрын

@@kingbertie most don't appreciate free things

@countalucard3405

2 жыл бұрын

@@hebercluff1665 lmao

@brandonr8269

2 жыл бұрын

She's got miles to go before she sees...

Thank you everyone for watching and for participating.

@jacqueline4514

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t let the thought police stop you, Van. This man is stating facts that some people are too blind, radical or sensitive to hear.

@Anonymous-uw4sr

2 жыл бұрын

Please react to more Jordan Peterson!

@sukmynut

2 жыл бұрын

@Mason exactly yet they had time to pin a comment thread hating on Peterson? Wth is goin on here.

@Antilli

2 жыл бұрын

Where is part 2?

@mikemclaughlin3306

2 жыл бұрын

Don't give in to the nonsense. More, different views are always more preferable than less. Please post the second half.

This was a legendary interview, for a few reasons. One being that she knew she was massively out classed in intellect and knowledge so she took a very combative strategy, which works a lot of the time because it causes people to stumble, get mad, say the wrong things and generally get discombobulated. Jordan Peterson took it like a champ and stood his ground, stayed even keeled and used his intellect and knowledge to fire back over and over.

@brianlevine249

2 жыл бұрын

Agree. Because he's infinitely qualified to talk about the subject and he regularly says "this isn't my opinion, I'm telling you what the clinical data says". He's not trying to defend his opinion but rather tell people what the real data says. Oh and this is all data from a field of study dominated by liberals on the left (which he is actually one). If anything the studies bias to the left not the right.

@MalikEmmanuel

2 жыл бұрын

If she thought she was outclassed they would have released an edited version of this. She thought she “won” this interview that’s why it was released unedited.

@xinx-fn8973

2 жыл бұрын

@@MalikEmmanuel even better 💀

@mesenteria

2 жыл бұрын

I know what you're saying, but I can't agree. I think she thought she had the feminist dogma cold, felt it was unassailable, and felt that she would easily prevail in making him look like a fool. It became fully bright to her the instant he chuckled and said, "Ha! Gotcha!" It's a testament to he courage and pluck that she managed to mumble out a few further questions in a feeble attempt to salvage her dignity, and the dignity of her relationship with her fellow hags when next they met.

@MalikEmmanuel

2 жыл бұрын

@@mesenteria don't forget the false flag attempt! When the video got downvoted to hell, she started claiming that there were credible threats against her life.

That woman was having a one sided debate . She was so focussed on being right that she was completely zoned out of the actuall debate

I have to say, as a woman I find it extremely satisfying when JP makes them look like fools. It's these women who give women a bad name. They're just so smug, so self-righteous, so arrogant...they think they're going to make him look like a fool and their own behavior calls them out every time. They really are no match for him because he always comes through with facts, not feelings.

@amyhayutin1738

2 жыл бұрын

As a woman I wonder if the clear demonstration of how she has to be less agreeable to compete in her workplace had any impact on your view of her? For me it demonstrated JP’s data perfectly.

@amomto4

2 жыл бұрын

YES!!!

@marciwyrd8905

2 жыл бұрын

@@amyhayutin1738 it's not her disagreeable attitude that makes people dislike people like her. It's the fact that JP is constantly trying to point out that statistically men do the higher paying jobs and therefore statistically men make more, and she is constantly trying to spin his words to make him sound misogynistic. The seven women on the British version of the fortune 100 list for instance, statistically more men aim for that particular segment of society so of course statistically more men will be there. Just like how more women go into nursing so statistically a man in nursing is going to have a female boss. Edit: he's trying to go into the fundamental difference in male/female psychology that underlies these statistics, and she says stuff like "so you're saying women are less intelligent than men?"

@onethought1123

2 жыл бұрын

yes!

She had one goal and one goal only in the “interrogation”, to cancel Dr. Peterson. I question anyone’s character if they think cancelling the truth is acceptable.

@toastysock

2 жыл бұрын

??????????????????

@elrikard7909

2 жыл бұрын

@@toastysock What don't you understand? Honest question.

@The442nd

2 жыл бұрын

That's the mission of The Left

@AnAverageGamer18

2 жыл бұрын

@@The442nd I think that's a really bad argument saying that the political point of a person is the sole reason why they try to cancel someone but ok bud

@AnAverageGamer18

2 жыл бұрын

And yeah, she was the whole interview baiting him to say something that she distorted to sound bad, even if it wasn't remotely what he said.

Jordan Peterson is in his own league! It's absolutely incredible to witness. We need to protect this man at all costs.

Bro did you see the backlash this woman got after she aired this interview!? Holy crap definitely check it out cuz it was brutal, it was so bad that they actually had to call the police into the studio over threats and then she was blaming Jordan Peterson and his trolls but it was like 13,000 people that were bashing this woman to the point where they couldn't even do anything with this interview, she got her ass handed to her from him and the public.. " so what you're saying is " 😆😆

This man is the #1 enemy to a lot of stupid people.... He's brilliant and well thought out so it normally ends this way 😂

@WildChild

2 жыл бұрын

He's the #1 enemy to mass media and dumb colleges

@language-n-learning

2 жыл бұрын

I heard the other day that he actually had to quit his university job because his students weren't able to get jobs. I assume that means pschology majors with his name on their CV were being turned down for jobs by woke employers. That's disgusting.

@scratchpenny

2 жыл бұрын

@@language-n-learning That is disgusting. But it doesn't surprise me. The entire social sciences have become indoctrinated and forced down one path. Any deviation and you risk your career.

@dreymak4071

2 жыл бұрын

he's the #1 enemy for saying something that wasn't even all that radical.. all he did was tell the truth, and they hate him for it..

@jonnyutah3748

2 жыл бұрын

So all colleges

Thing about Cathy Newman is she's trying to "win." She's not interested in the truth. She's interesting in "winning."

@chrisbergin390

2 жыл бұрын

She is very unprofessional

@GrumpyGrebo

2 жыл бұрын

Chris Bergin: "She is very unprofessional" Cathy Newman: "So what you're saying is... all women are unprofessional"

@quirkypurple

2 жыл бұрын

Strawman Queen 🤣

@Zenith_Nulls

2 жыл бұрын

@@quirkypurple no cap 😂

@Macbeagle

2 жыл бұрын

💯%

I'm from the UK, I watched this interview when it happened. She tried SOoo hard to make him look like an Evil misogynist and failed so hard at learning anything from this very enlightening interaction with this very accomplished professor. to take it further, Channel 4 (where this was shown) were so embarrassed by this that they made out they got death threats from his fans... so if they can't make him look bad directly, they started a Twitter rage war to make him look bad by-proxy . This interview is legendary for the huge fail that it was! Thanks for the trip down memory lane, I forgot how good this was.

This was such a huge missed opportunity for her. From the very beginning, she had a clear agenda and wasn't open to actually communicating. Her entire goal was to catch him up...and THAT is not communication and lends nothing to understanding or learning. She was her own worst enemy as this specific interview that she wanted to be a slam-dunk for her actually eroded her credibility substantially.

@beagle8boy

2 жыл бұрын

Eventually Jordan runs her to ground AND she admits it. This interview is still all over the web if you have the time and inclination you should listen to the rest. It's really worth it and will prove to be, as a 77 year old male retired judge and college prof before that, will prove to be one of the best interviews you will ever hear.

@dewrus2153

2 жыл бұрын

@@beagle8boy - Agreed! I have seen the entire interview and I loved that Jordan can do what many cannot…he stays calm and keeps the conversation on topic. I loved it when she suddenly realized he was right and instead of taking the time to proactively acknowledge it..she simply went blank while processing his words. That was my favorite part.

@mmalave71

2 жыл бұрын

There is a point in the interview where he says “gotcha” and she agrees with him. Epic!

Fun fact: after this interview the BBC released the results of their investigation and found they were underpaying more men then they were women. Jordan is playing chess, this lady is barely playing checkers.

@HereIsWisdom1318

Жыл бұрын

She’s playing “how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop”.

Oh man I was waiting for the exact part you stopped at!!! Waiting for part 2! BTW as a woman... I'm with Jordan. I managed a multi million dollar business. I also had 4 kids took time off, changed careers to be home more! My choice! Doesn't mean I'm not a badass, it proves I am! 😏

@12floz67

2 жыл бұрын

I was waiting to hear gotcha! Lol🍻

@toastysock

2 жыл бұрын

And obama clapped.

@scottallencarr

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! I think Jordan was the one truly speaking up on behalf of the women here.

@mariabunch3541

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! You put your kids first. That kind of selflessness takes courage. I applaud you.

@quirkypurple

2 жыл бұрын

Wow, well done.

“Most people do not listen with the intent to understand; they listen with the intent to reply.” Stephen Covey

Dr Peterson :” Breathing” Cathy Newman:” so you are saying oxygen is only for men.”

@BloodSweatandFears

4 ай бұрын

I choked on my Mac and cheese laughing at this and some cheese went up my nose.

JP: The sky is blue. Her: So what you're saying is you hate the color red.

@captainz9

2 жыл бұрын

What's amazing is that after this interview she felt she "won", when nobody else did.

@dafellaz6

2 жыл бұрын

@@captainz9 she got DRAGGED after this interview

@richardcranium5048

2 жыл бұрын

That made me chuckle, so true

@Win-tq2uf

2 жыл бұрын

@@dafellaz6 Elaborate pls

@dafellaz6

2 жыл бұрын

@@Win-tq2uf she getting threats and insults all over social.

You’re getting into some great stuff. Thomas Sowell please

@singerkgreen

2 жыл бұрын

Yessss!!! Thomas Sowell for sure.

@Gigi-bx8td

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! Absolutely!

@vulgarprophet2689

2 жыл бұрын

YES!!!

@haroldconverseiii

2 жыл бұрын

This man’s books should be required reading in school

@mokumboi19

2 жыл бұрын

Utter nonsense.

I agree with Jordan Peterson 100%, he’s arguing with pretty much pure facts

@phasespace4700

2 жыл бұрын

Nope. He's lying over and over. As usual.

@jeanfigueroa6235

2 жыл бұрын

@@phasespace4700 Why?

@phasespace4700

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeanfigueroa6235 Same reason every other rightwing slob lies. He has to. All the facts are against him.

I can't help but feel 90% of the problems are due to the breakup of the family. Children need MOM AND DAD to grow up their healthiest self mentally, emotionally, and spiritually.

@anneb889

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. I just got my haircut and the 26yr old female hairdresser was telling me she has no desire to have kids, or even be in a relationship. She still lives with her parents, who she almost had her older, so they are retired, I’m their late 60s. And I wanted to point out to her that when she’s the one in her 60s she won’t have any family around…. People (mostly women) seem to want to rely more on the government now than their families. It’s sad.

One thing I witnessed in my professional years was how often a male colleague walked in and straight up asked for a pay raise ... And received it. Yet, my female colleagues sat back and waited for a raise... And waited ... After two years of hard work, I chose not to wait for my next performance review. I arranged a sit down with management and stated I was worth more than I was earning and expected a salary increase. Because I was aggressive, I not only got my raise, I got better benefits, as well. Sometimes I see women waiting, instead of boldly stating their worth.

@GenXfrom75

2 жыл бұрын

@Mason lol okay then.... The *audacity* 🤣🤣🤣 I've seen what I commented in MY company. Your experience is what you've seen, perhaps. But you can't say how EVERY business operates. My point is that I've known women not earn what they *deserve* simply because they didn't speak up and ask for it. Simple as that. ✌️

@amandafischer937

2 жыл бұрын

If I tried that as being mixed, I would get fired

@deminybs

2 жыл бұрын

same, granted I've never been turned down for a raise because my boss is my sister's husband 😂😂 so I got more leeway than anyone in the company, even knowing that I still don't like to use that as an excuse, I'm here to better the company, my family, etc and complacency doesn't get you anywhere. (of course unless you feed off the government just because you're too lazy to apply yourself) then they just complain anyway. people need struggles/hardships to overcome....the pay off is better than any drug I've had

@JohnMiller-zn9pf

2 жыл бұрын

@Mason no one said they didn't get HIRED at the same rate. she said pay RAISES went to those who asked first.

@thehoogard

2 жыл бұрын

@Mason You should learn to read before you accuse people of lying.

From the videos I've seen about this she was 'ripped to shreds' by media outlets after this and that the reason that it took so long for his speech to get more assertive with her was he was taken aback because she was in his words 'quite agreeable until they started the interview and then was as you see'. One of the medias he talked about this interview on was joe rogans podcast

He is spot on with how psychology teaches assertiveness. I went to a therapist for anxiety and she helped me see where I needed to start saying "no" to people, including at my job, bc it was putting too much on my plate to take on others problems or take on way more at work simply bc the bosses knew I wouldn't say no, I was stressed, so when I started to see where I could say no and could do it in a respectful way, I stopped taking on other people's jobs and stopped having panic attacks at work. I became way more successful at my job too and got better year end evals. Edit: learning to stand up for one's self, men and women, is empowering and life changing

@HereIsWisdom1318

Жыл бұрын

I ALWAYS say no!

JP has a broad repertoire of words at his disposal , I literally have to sit and think or even look up for some. He just cites them like they are the A B C, I really respect his intelligence

she's clearly not listening properly, that's why she cites him wrong, she just wants to hear what she wants to hear

@brettneygibbs9047

2 жыл бұрын

One of the biggest problems in the world today. When they don't agree, they shut down and twist everything, nobody wants to listen and try to see things from a different perspective. It's sad.

@crustybomb115

2 жыл бұрын

thats the annoying thing about whats happening nowadays, people hear but dont listen... unless of course its something they WANT to listen to, which usually means something they already believe to reaffirm and reinforce their own beliefs... any contesting opinion needs to be shut down(thats how certain people view and act on the matter, examples being usually in politics, however its been bleeding over into other things as of late)

@jakeand9020

2 жыл бұрын

Not quite. She has an objective and very intentionally misrepresents what he says to fit the narrative. All he has to do is agree with her once and she's "got him" and nothing else he says matters. That's why, on the rare occasion he does agree with her, it's in his own words rather than a flat affirmative. She's pretty good, but uses a sub optimal tactic. She uses, attack attack attack and eventually they'll slip, works surprisingly well on most people. The best method for her objective is to actually get someone in the habit of agreeing first, then start twisting it. However, she's not really allowed that option for a few reasons, first and foremost being that she's bound by the narrative.

@migueldiaz248

2 жыл бұрын

@@jakeand9020 no, she's just an angry woman interviewing lol. nothing more than that. she is a master manipulator and liar and most fools fall for it, not jordan

“So what you’re saying is…” became a meme because of this woman, as if she was Ash trying to cram a rolled up magazine down Ripley’s throat in the movie Alien.

@BaileyDewayne

2 жыл бұрын

dude i know what the fuck

@JacobSantillan

2 жыл бұрын

@@BaileyDewayne I can’t remember, but I think she got roasted so hard they had to turn the comments off. I may be wrong about that though.

I was following Jordan Peterson before this, and this interview with Cathy Newman was what really blew him up into the titanic figure he is today. Keep digging, LFR Family. You're on a rich vein.

THANK YOU FOR LEANING IN to listen so you can hear what is being said. Thank you! Love this content so much. So, so much. I’m female and I understand completely what JP is saying.

Thanks to JP I realized I was selling myself short. My last interview I basically channeled him, told the people interviewing me (there were 5 in the room) that they needed me more than I needed them and told them how much I wanted. I got everything I asked for.

@kingbertie

2 жыл бұрын

If you say so. I suspect that nineteen out of twenty people who try that line aren't as successful as you in getting 'everything they asked for'.

@wallyllama2926

2 жыл бұрын

@@kingbertie welp, I did.

@Lizards_Lounge

2 жыл бұрын

Worked for me when I've done it. I've always put myself into things and made sure my standard and speed of work is high and only said that when I knew it's true... When the rest of workforce was lazy and unreliable.. or when your running so many things and they are trying to squeeze more out of us. When you know your being fired for standing for yourself and your crew would be devastating to the business.

@digitalis2977

2 жыл бұрын

@@kingbertie If 19 out of 20 people are lying when they say it, of course it isn't going to work out for them.

I love how Jordan Peterson knows so much about psychology that he is literally just giving this information out of a passion to help people and he'll just say the truth without thinking of what the political repercussions will be

@timinator1178

2 жыл бұрын

no, he definitely thinks of what the political repercussions will be. He thinks of what he says, and he is very careful about what he says

@phasespace4700

2 жыл бұрын

No--he's a fraud with no clue WTF he's talking about.

@brianlevine249

2 жыл бұрын

@@phasespace4700 bwahaha ok. Except when his clinical practice was active the cream of the crop of women would seek him out for career planning and counseling on how to get to the top. And he was overwhelmingly successful. Their salaries would triple within five years. But yeah ok, the best and brightest career minded women in Canada lining up for his clinical practice but he's a fraud with no clue......people like you are comical.

@RavetsU

2 жыл бұрын

@@phasespace4700 Typical argument without any explanation or source of why he is a fraud :D

@phasespace4700

2 жыл бұрын

@@RavetsU I have no explanation as to why he's a fraud. I'm assuming it's for the money and because he's a narcissist. ..not sure why anyone would take a guy seriously who claims that there are GHOSTS in the trunk of his car, ancient people made paintings of DNA molecules and he went 25 days without sleep after overdosing on apple cider. The guy is obviously a kook.

Thank you for your insights and analysis! I thoroughly enjoyed watching this clip again with your reaction and feedback. As a mature aged, black, female university student going for her third Bachelor degree it is refreshing to listen to patient and intelligent conversation about subjects that are often divisive because someone wants to 'win the point'. I have followed you for a little while now and have subscribed today because of this reaction video. Well done, and thank you!

This interview was many years ago now and still relevant. Love the new attention to thought leaders in common sense.

As a female (I am) she is too combative in this interview. If that's her style so be it ... because Peterson has a focal point in helping young men fight back against the attacks from feminist and let them know its OK to be a man .. she just chooses aggression to lead this interview... she talks over him far to much .. don't ask a question if you're not willing to hear a complete answer.

@jasonharter4876

2 жыл бұрын

His focal point isnt helping young men fight back against the attacks from feminists...I dont know where you got that, because he explains it over and over again in many interviews. It just so happened to resonate with young men more because more men watch youtube more than women. He has many lectures where there are women who sit in and learn. he is a clinical psychologist so he provides therapy for both men and women. He was a professor at a university and taught men and women. The idea that his focal point is towards young men is a fallacy by legacy media designed to demonise J.P. and promote "toxic masculinity". He even makes that argument in this exact video that he isnt solely focused on men.

@mickeydrennan1576

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@metalmayhem3622

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a bit of a misogynist. I have to give her credit for her back and forth, no matter how wrong I think she is.

@coryclark5442

2 жыл бұрын

Combative and stupid are different, shes an idiot. Ignored and misunderstood what he said the entire time.

@toastysock

2 жыл бұрын

@@metalmayhem3622 What the fuck

You are right she is so dismissive of what she refuses to hear

Appreciate your humility man. And you're right - what you clearly observed is she's asking "loaded" questions. They are loaded with her presumptions about him, hence her embarrassment by the end.

The way she's leading with the questions, she will only move forward when she gets the answer that connects her to her agenda

Great reaction. You made some valid points and you showed great integrity and humility when you explained how your wife helped you through your “growing up” phase. Sounds like you have an awesome family. Great job! Go in peace.

Hes Brilliant. What I love about him is that he is the most unbiased person ever looking at any situation. Maybe its because he is a psychologist but he litterally breaks everything down so fairly no matter what it is.

@mickeydrennan1576

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@deathgrinderb3284

2 жыл бұрын

yea he goes by facts and stats. thats why the left hates him.

@mickeydrennan1576

2 жыл бұрын

@@deathgrinderb3284 lol, no.

@kristinewhitfield4110

2 жыл бұрын

@@deathgrinderb3284 lol He seems to trigger the left and they act delusional pretending this clinical psychologist doesn't know what hes talking about lol. Smh ignorance.

@zbynekurbanek3345

2 жыл бұрын

@@kristinewhitfield4110 you know whats the funniest? Peterson never really thought about himself as "being on the right" during his grown up life before 2016... and when he was a teenager he was a member of socialist party of Canada :) he actually had some sort of carreer there as a young local leftist politician... but left the party I think when he was 16 when he got into contact with top tiers of the party and found out all the people there were phonies who didnt care about workers rights at all... (then he left politics and went into psychology)

I've watched the interviews and debates on this Playlist more times than I can count. To the point, when I do, I'm literally holding my breathe right before my favorite parts and reciting the words out loud along with the speakers. It's nice to come along for the ride through the eyes of someone watching for the first time. And I like the cut of your jib good sir! Very entertaining and on point!

He said that before the interview began, she was nice and was engaging in pleasant conversation. Once the cameras came on she became adversarial and combative.

I’m glad you did this reaction. I think Jordan said somewhere that he had to fight to keep calm in this interview and not get pissed the f**k off and he did an amazing job. People saw through a lot of the lefts bs in this interview.

You definitely have to keep going in this interview. The next part is classic with a true mic drop moment. He literally leaves her speechless. You might say he broke her brain.

@JustInOutDoors78

2 жыл бұрын

Damn. I watched the whole video waiting for him to get to the "Hah! Gotcha!".

@fuzzylogics139

2 жыл бұрын

I applaud your mental strength and endurance. How do you sit this cringe-fest out without ripping your hair out man? I think I need to shut this one off out of self preservation really..

@JustInOutDoors78

2 жыл бұрын

@@fuzzylogics139 username checks out

@fuzzylogics139

2 жыл бұрын

@@JustInOutDoors78 I watched the whole thing after I spewed my irritation. I even watched the FOLLOW-UP because of you and Doug raving about that.. Like awe man!! Did lose some hair in the process but nothing I can't hide with a little comb-over. We're good.

Jp: "the sky is blue" Newman: "so you are saying that other colors arent real?"

The funniest thing about this is, the channel she's on, and she thought this conversation went well. They released an edited version first, and it got a ton of backlash. They thought it was probably because of the way it was edited and her points didn't come through, so they released the unedited version. The unedited version made her look worse.

I am a brown man. Completely agree with Jordan Peterson. He has lots of great messages for humans in general. People are trying to paint him as a bad person because he doesn't agree with the left.

@surfersilver6610

2 жыл бұрын

Right!(pun)

My husband and I went with another couple to hear Jordan Peterson during his lecture tour a few years ago. He is very clear and concise with his arguments and points and he is very balanced. You need to listen and digest what he says, not have "knee jerk reactions" to the words themselves. He wants all people to live happy lives. I appreciate that you listened to him, Van.

@khornebloodgod2137

2 жыл бұрын

@@charliesanders6930 yet funnily he is the kind of person activists should look upto.

Jordan Peterson: "I like pizza" Cathy Newman: "So you're saying you enjoy watching children die of starvation"

"Why should women put up with those reasons?" That's like asking, "why should women put up with themselves?" We're talking about sex differences in personalities, preferences and priorities that are rooted in evolutionary biology/psychology. Now here's some math no one wants to talk about. You have 100 men and 100 women. 70 men and 30 women are working in management. In that job, the men earn $50k/year and the women earn $55k/year. 70 women and 30 men are working in customer service. In that job, the men earn $20k/year and the women earn $23k/year. The 70 men in management earn a total of $3.5 million a year, and the 30 men in customer service collectively earn $600k/year, for a total of $4.1 million/year. Averaged across all the men, their incomes are $41k/year. The 30 women in management earn a total of $1.65 million/year, and the 70 women in customer service earn $1.61 million/year, for a total of $3.26 million/year. Averaged across all the women, their incomes are 32.6k/year. That's a difference of $8400/year less per woman! Ermagerd! Women earn 20% less than men do! Women deserve equal pay for equal work! This is so unfair to women! Even though in my example, a woman earns 10% more as a manager than a man does, and in customer service, a woman earns 15% more than a man does. THIS is why you can't only go by one variable.

I’m only 10 minutes in and I can’t stand her. She is rude,argumentative,interrupting and leading. Just rude. Just my opinion.

@mattglenn29

2 жыл бұрын

She's a lefty bro, what do you expect. They have talking points and no argument haha!

@sylmen1111

2 жыл бұрын

You are right, I wasn’t going to comment but I did twice, she was giving me anxiety.

@crustybomb115

2 жыл бұрын

welcome to how certain people do interviews...

@TLAS

2 жыл бұрын

@@crustybomb115 Oh, please teach us more, Ms. Journalism! 😆

@crustybomb115

2 жыл бұрын

@@TLAS oh please, people like that interviewer are called urinalists for a reason... its not journalism so much as being a blatant activist with a paper that says that youre a journalist...

Van thank you this is something I needed to see today. It's weird things that come up in life but this brings some stuff to light for me. I'll notgo into a big explain but thank you

I appreciate you opening up about your relationship with your wife, that's not an easy thing to do. You gave a great example.And I'm sure it's helpful to many people.

You’re right! She only asks “gotcha questions” but JP is too smart to fall into her snares. ❤️🇦🇺

I'm a homeschooling, stay at home mom that worked for 20 yrs in the financial industry. From the very first day I began work I KNEW that what I wanted out of work was greatly different from the men I worked with. I knew I would rather not work overtime, men usually do, I knew I would rather take my vacation time, men are more likely to let that time roll over, etc. I knew if I got married and had children my family would become my primary focus and I would sacrifice work opportunities to the benefit of my home. Media, school, entertainment LIED to me in my youth that a woman could have her cake and eat it too and be just as happy and successful as a married man. I have been happiest being a house wife, just like my mama, my hero, was. Women have to grow up too and stop pretending that your family deserves to sit second place to a job.

Fantastic content. Please keep Jordan clips coming. He speaks the truth in the most respectful and positive manner. This broadcaster thoroughly embarrassed herself. Jordan, in no way, intended to make that happen. It was obvious he even tried to not allow her to make herself seem so close minded. Much respect to you for this video. ✊

I like your analysis of the interview but really respect your ability to listen to a conversation and examine the information being presented with some really honest, self-aware, introspection, and do so without becoming defensive. That’s a powerful example of a strong desire to better yourself instead of trying to excuse negative behavior. I believe Shakespeare said “Happy is a man who can hear his detractions and put them to mending.”

I like how you acknowledged the sacrifices your wife has made..and said it was unfair and showed commitment to writing it.. it shows you where a man of integrity and I appreciate that

I love shows like this. It forces you to think. Peterson is 1 smart dude. Been watching him for a few years now.

The woman interviewer makes more money than a lot of other women...is that fair?

@BoondockRoberts

2 жыл бұрын

What I would have asked her is hypothetically if the network found out there were far more females in her position and they needed to replace a few women to balance it out would she easily step aside in the name of equity

@mayanking339

2 жыл бұрын

Supermodels Strippers women make more

Jordan: "I don't like lettuce in my hamburgers" Just: "So you're saying you don't like vegetables" Jordan: "No, I'm not saying that at all" Wash / rinse / repeat 35 times and that's this whole interview.

@christinetuazon9700

2 жыл бұрын

summary lol :)

@svenjorgensenn8418

Жыл бұрын

JP only eats steaks and has had terrible health problems

The problem with starting an argument with somebody who is significantly smarter than you is that you will almost always lose

Thank you for this video. I love Jordan Peterson. I will say, as a female, women like this drive me crazy. I understand that for a very long time women were considered a minority group. But (in my life only) I feel I earned the pay I have. I've never been made to feel like my gender was a handicap. I do agree with the agreeableness argument. Incredibly, this woman believed she won in the "interview". It's now become a meme to have her picture and the words "So what you're saying is..." and then adding something totally off the wall.

@amomto4

2 жыл бұрын

As a woman i also agree!

30:29 - This is the biggest point that is lost on people... she's dwelling on some national general statistic being different than another one, and as soon as he proposes a potential reason, she dismisses it and pivots back to the general "good or bad/yes or no" nonsense.

Saw this "interview" a while ago but I loved your personalized intro, one of the greatest I've heard. Had me rollin, thx man!

I've seen this clip a number of times but appreciate your commentary at intervals. Thank you for promoting conversation and free speech.

In my career as a manager one of my responsibilities was negotiating salaries. Most often the women would except my first offer and the men had negotiating skills to raise that salary. When representing the company the real goal was to control payroll cost.

His videos are amazing, you could do a complete series on just his content... Looking forward to part 2

I love the change from the beginning when she came out trying to knock him off balance and he was stumbling a bit but not much longer and he was on his game and got ahead of her and didn't miss a beat.

@Cinderella1463

Жыл бұрын

I think he stumbled at first as backstage, she was pleasant and agreeable but when the cameras started rolling she wanted to be the 'one that took Jordan down, boy how I laughed as his smartness made her completely come undone and show herself up for this absolute egotist she is!

I love most of what he believes. But in general I find his points extremely important.

20:14 there’s a big time lawyer from my area who spoke of this in his later years. The dude had a family and literally spent all his life focused on law. He spoke of many regrets, missing simple things as his child’s little league games or concerts, anniversaries with his wife, all because he was motivated and driven in that direction. Like he mentions, it’s not a moral or ethical call, it’s just an observation from data, that certain men are more likely to tread that path than women. Note: I am a man and I’m not one of these people. I don’t understand why someone like Tom Cruise (who clearly has enough money to just live) doesn’t retire. There’s a drive within certain people, which I don’t have, and his foundational point is we shouldn’t punish or hinder that.

@GreyGooseNWO

2 жыл бұрын

Most celebrities have an expensive lifestyle. Sure they could retire but it’s often not enough money to keep living that way and it’s hard to go back to a regular life. Take a look at johnny depp he spends so much money that he would go broke if he stops shootings some movies from time to time. He has a private jet , a yatch , 14 homes , 45 cars , 40 full time personal staffs just that cost at least 10 million a year to maintain

@morothane

2 жыл бұрын

@@GreyGooseNWO definitely. Saw a Reddit post a few years ago of an “upper middle class” family that made 400k/year and still struggling. The budget listed was everything from dance lessons to tutoring, sure great stuff, but not “necessities”. You are right. There is a lifestyle change that even just more than basic needs aren’t enough

@mattthespyd3r969

2 жыл бұрын

@@morothane most people are broke because of money mismanagement

This is why gender EQUALITY has changed to EQUITY. Much like in Russia one person kick ass and works hard, out produces but the guy next him puts in less than 1/2 of what he did and demands equal pay. She thinks arguments constitute debate. Doesn't equate.

@svenjorgensenn8418

Жыл бұрын

In Russia they made the same wage for over 50 years

This is such an entertaining interview. She throws out "gotcha" questions and he hammers back on her like "I'm not here to stoop to your immaturity".

The blue versus pink helmets, let's go line by line. Blue dye used in plastics is available from multiple countries that compete, which brings prices down. Pink dye costs more because it's sourced by just one country that doesn't have to compete. On top of that, blue dye requires lower temperatures to integrate it into the plastic. Meaning less energy is needed to make a blue helmet, therefore a lower end price. Also, ALL non-pink helmets cost less, because EVERYONE is willing to wear a blue helmet, or a green one, or a black one, or a white one, or a yellow one. Only a small subset of just women adamantly insist on pink helmets, therefore a pink helmet necessarily has a smaller share of the helmet market, and could be considered a "specialty or novelty item", which necessarily demands a higher price because it's not as scalable. Bitch, call me when the cashier at Walmart calls security on you because you're trying to buy a blue bike helmet and women aren't allowed to do that, and I'll change my mind. Until you do, I'm calling bullshit.

@winterfrench8094

2 жыл бұрын

You're a damn hero. Details matter.

You and Stevie Knight talking about this stuff is so important and I'm incredibly happy this conversation is happening. 💯%✓✓✓✓✓

This illustrates the very important skill of "listening" before engaging ones mouth...Ty brother for this

She a prime example why men don't have casual conversation with women

@judgemarshall6127

Жыл бұрын

🎯 Exactly..

I love your reactions which add so much to my understanding of the issues. You bring a different background than the videos. I really appreciate that. That is one of the reasons I watch these videos through your channel.

I agree with Jordan. Just equalize the playing field. Make it equal opportunity, not equal outcome. Just give us all equal opportunity and see what we do individually and together.

I love how he neatly sidesteps her landmines. "So what you're saying is (states something not even close to what he said)?" "No, this is my point, as an answer to this broad question, within this larger context." "So, what you're saying is you think the one f**ed up side is correct, and the side I prefer is crap?" "No, what I'm saying is (patiently explains, yet again, as if to a child)." "So you'd love to dominate and exclude women, wouldn't you?" "No, what I actually said was...." She is a big practitioner of the 'gotcha' conclusion, or as you say it, Van, the leading question, trying to get the person she's interviewing to defend something messed up, that they in fact never said at all. Luckily, she's not very good at it.

@billparrish4385

2 жыл бұрын

@@charliesanders6930 Fair enough. We're in the same general vicinity to each other, I think. After reading your comment, I realize what I had in mind was that she was not very good at it when it comes to opposing him -- it may work a treat against someone else. As your apt imagery suggests, he's playing chess while she's playing checkers. I would quibble with the assertion that her having her own show is a proof of her being 'good'. These days, that could simply mean she's 'doctrinally pure' among the ranks of her ideology. Jordan sees through all that, with a clear, unwavering gaze: The fallacious 'reasoning', the bumper-sticker tropes, the false syllogisms, the distractions laid across his path to get him off topic and thus dilute his message. She's all about the sound and the fury, while he's in service to the significant. She's selling the sizzle -- he's selling the steak.

As a liberal Canadian I'm not always on the same page as JP but he is often the most eloquent and concise orator in any debate. His dismantling of the interviewer was a pleasure to watch. She was just looking for a fight and JP rope-a-doped her like he was Ali and she's Foreman.

I really liked your open approach to hearing what the speaker had to say. It is so funny how closed minded some people can be and how they just want to argue vs. having an intellectual conversation. He kept saying there a re 18 variables in the pay gap and of course the only response was "so it is gender based". I would have enjoyed an actual conversation where she asks him what are the other variables and how do you think we can address them. I enjoyed your commentary.

Jordan Peterson is a very cool man, his biblical series is wonderful. He teaches it from a psychologist perspective it's really fkn interesting

@rhoetusochten4211

2 жыл бұрын

My biggest criticism of Peterson is that he seems to fall into the trap of "when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail". (Psychology being his hammer) I think it is a wonderful tool with many uses, but it isn't the only tool.

Dear sir, the way you analysed the interview and how you related the information to your own life, for example your wife early on taking up more responsibility etc., that made an impact on me. It had me reflect on my current relationship and realise how much more I should appreciate the woman I am with. Thank you for a great channel.

"What has gone wrong" Peterson, "oh god" 😆

I watched this video elsewhere, but it was incomplete. I ended up here looking for more complete footage. Aside from Mr. Peterson sharing my own observations on these topics over the years, two things in particular struck me: 1, One needs must ask actual questions, rather than presumptuous, leading remarks; and then one needs must LISTEN to the responses, at least consider them even if not necessarily accept them outright. 2. One must always question; but I'm often floored by the gross determination that discussion tends more toward competition than conjecture and analysis. This all-or-nothing approach is in large part what holds us back as a society and a species.

Yes!!! Love jordan peterson!!! So glad you're watching him great reaction!

Jordan is a good man. He just wants to see people have good, fulfilling lives. The problem with Kathy's view on being paid for the same job is that she thinkS that someone making a burger at McDonald's should be paid the same as someone making a burger at a 5 star restaurant because it all just cooking.

@mickeydrennan1576

2 жыл бұрын

It is "just all cooking". But that's not the actual point. That's just a deflection from the real conversation about who actually produces wealth (it's not the wealthy).

@jedimastayoda112

2 жыл бұрын

@@mickeydrennan1576 Talking about the "production of wealth" is the deflection. This isn't an apples to apples comparison. The collective earnings of men measured against the collective earnings of women is about as disingenuous as you can get. Fewer women are in the workforce (housewives) The collective time all women take off for maternity leave and subsequent fewer hours worked henceforth, the fact women dont demand a raise as often as a man does and arent willing to quit if they dont get one and in general, zero women can be found in high risk high pay fields like deep sea oil rigging means your argument has no merit on its face.

@lewisner

2 жыл бұрын

She works for Channel 4 TV and she says "women at the BBC are being paid less, illegally". So not only does she criticise "the other lot" but she talks nonsense because if they were being paid less "illegally" they would take their employers to court, and win.

She likes her own voice too much 😂 She never allowed him to finish one question without cutting him off.

The problem is, most folks do not understand equality of outcome vs equality of opportunity.

The second part of this is better than this portion. This man is one of the most brilliant people on the planet.

4:05...sadly, me too. One of the reasons I coach young men in sports is to do my part to guide them to that same self-discovery we have made. BTW, I am not surprised, and am very glad, that you are examining videos outside of the standard reaction fare. You have a bearing and presence about yourself that lends itself to this. Bravo!

Love hearing about how you and your wife handle stuff. Really encouraging to hear