Stephen A! In all this discussion, you forget to mention Curry’s went 73-9.. and unanimously won Mvp. It’s like we treat it like it never happened. They lost in the finals. But give my boy Stephen Curry credit for what he did in 2016 as well! Best record of all time. And he lost to the 1 and only LBJ!

@gamesplaystv4004

2 жыл бұрын

That's facts but I don't see him and KD making the top 10 I have hakeem the dream over steph and KD ngl

@okocha8113

2 жыл бұрын

Steph can't be a top 10 without a finals mvp

@easyforezzy2024

2 жыл бұрын

With all this it still can't put him into the top 10. The players in the top 10 can play both halfs of the game unlike Curry.

@phenomenalsaviour7803

2 жыл бұрын

@@easyforezzy2024 what do you mean by that

@jjwe2002

2 жыл бұрын

That lost to LBJ was helped by the refs. Also they let Cleveland foul, grab, scratch, bump, shove, hold Curry to no end...which they can affect shooters ability to shoot. He's only 6'3, all that physical harrasment can have a bigger impact on smaller players. They need to stop letting defenders cheat like that.

That voice Stephen A goes into when he says "This is the greatest shooter God has ever created" kills me every time.. 😂😂

@NateWilliams..

2 жыл бұрын

Aye for real tho😭😭

@Dark-of9zy

2 жыл бұрын

Same for me, every time he say that

@marsalisbush1035

2 жыл бұрын

That man sounded like he was in love 😂💀

I'll always put Steph ahead of Durant. Durant's biggest achievement was joining Steph's team to cover some holes after 2016 (which is the same year KD lost to Steph). More rings, more MVPs and much greater impact to the game.

@thelongnguyens

2 жыл бұрын

I hear you, the year KD lost 3-1 lead to Steph was the same year GS lost 3-1 lead to a healthy Cavs. The first ring GS got was against a lone Lebron without Kyrie and Love. If you take that into consideration. Now look at Russell Westbrick, where is he without KD? The fact that KD carried that Thunder team to the final is amazing. The core GS team is definitely very strong, but skill level its hard to say Steph is better than KD even though he's the best shooter. You live and die with the 3s and it's pretty bad to see Steph's off nights..

@kingkillerj123

2 жыл бұрын

Do you not take the finals mvp in account. KD join the team and became there best player instantly. Kd had to deal with Westbrook for more than half his career and look how far he got them. The biggest mistake for the thunders was to let James go instead of Westbrook. If they let Westbrook go, then James would have to play his natural position of point guard. James is a better natural passer than Westbrook.Unlike Westbrook, James don’t force passes and get turnovers. James does try to force fouls but who can blame him.

@thelongnguyens

2 жыл бұрын

@@kingkillerj123 spot on man! My exact thoughts on this. Thanks for sharing!

@heyitsmedammit

2 жыл бұрын

Seems obvious to me.

@Cliandrew

2 жыл бұрын

@@kingkillerj123 Steph took a backseat to kd because he is unselfish. But look at the warriors when curry plays and kd doesn't. And look at it when kd plays and curry doesn't. Let's not forget KD still has yet to win without curry. Don't forget curry beat kd in the playoffs

If I didn't watch basketball I would think KD has 5 MVPs, 10 Scoring Titles & 6 rings and led a team to 70 wins as the number 1 option the way Stephen A. talks about him. Steph Curry has more rings, more MVPs & can change a game in 5 shots. Curry is absolutely ahead of KD all time.

@kirutv3483

2 жыл бұрын

He has more ring because he played with him lol just stop it, you acting like they didn’t call him crying after losing to bron n kyrie

@kemj9

2 жыл бұрын

@@kirutv3483 well at least Steph won a ring without KD

@jonathanchen9587

2 жыл бұрын

if kyrie and love were healthy he would have the same amount rings as kd

@kobekobekobekobekobe

2 жыл бұрын

Idiot here

@cheerioss-9121

2 жыл бұрын

@@kirutv3483 You’re acting like KD would’ve had a ring without Steph.. bro hasn’t been to the finals in how many years without Steph? Steph picked back up right where he left after the injury after Durant left. And as we’re seeing right now they could’ve gotten nearly anybody to replace Durant and went back to the finals

If you say Steph gotta do it without kd you have to say the same for kd because he still hasn’t done anything without Steph

@quintingrant9285

2 жыл бұрын

he did in 2015 without kd

@drakotv9240

2 жыл бұрын

@@quintingrant9285 what he do in 2015

@kevinobida8473

2 жыл бұрын

@@drakotv9240 He won the chip in 2015 without KD

@martial5227

2 жыл бұрын

@@drakotv9240 think he meant Steph has done it without KD in 2015

@datsapaddlin

2 жыл бұрын

@@quintingrant9285 he did it without Kyrie and Love playing most the series. It counts but if he does it again vs a healthy team he would get more praise. Plus he wasn’t the best player on the floor that series.

I got Steph ahead of Durant. Would not be mad if he was top 10. He literally changed the game on every single level. He changed the way the game is played. There maybe 3-5 players who did that all time.

@justinhughes2207

2 жыл бұрын

Steph is better than KD. KD has never won a thing without Steph

@benito526

2 жыл бұрын

Same here. KD wasn’t winning no rings without the warriors, while the warriors already got their ring without him and also ended up with the greatest regular season record in nba history, led by unanimous MVP Steph curry. Curry should’ve got FMVP 2015 as well. Durant is the best scorer ever for me, but I’m not taking him over Steph

@xavier9738

2 жыл бұрын

KD is not top ten. He got no rings

@meech2244

2 жыл бұрын

nah

@michaelsmith7895

2 жыл бұрын

D.. riding Steph curry

Ppl must forget Steph Swept the blazers in the 2019 WCF without KD while averaging 36 PPG and a total of 146 points most ever by a player in a 4 game playoff series 🤷🏾‍♂️

@hamunivadmin2750

2 жыл бұрын

exactly they like to forget that soon as kd went down in the Houston series curry and gsw went 6-0 to the finals

@rafaelisslaam1894

Жыл бұрын

Lmao he was guarded by Dame lol

@rafaelisslaam1894

Жыл бұрын

@@hamunivadmin2750 wym 6-0?

How was KD the best player when Steph was the one getting double teamed. Don’t you double the best and most lethal scorer on a team so why was Steph doubled in the finals

@christophermorris2434

2 жыл бұрын

Correct, kd won 2 mvps playing 4 against 3 because of steph.

Can anyone inform me on the ring KD has WITHOUT Steph??? Dont worry I'll wait. How they trying to discredit ring 2 and 3 from Steph is down right disrespectful. Are we forgetting it was Steph and GSW who sent KD and OKC fishing. The ONE time KD made the finals WITHOUT Steph he lost. Oh Tim Duncan SHOULD be placed higher than Shaq

@pereisjo878

2 жыл бұрын

Okc were a 50 win team, gsw was a 70 win team. If steph wouldnt have won then it would’ve been the biggest choke in nba history. Oh wait he already owns that title when he chocked against the cavs. Kd was the best player on the team when they played with each other, it’s so abundantly clear it’s not even a debate.

@tareekmclean1301

2 жыл бұрын

@@pereisjo878 he was also the best player on okc and he still lost, also the best player on the nets and still lost

@Honsyy

2 жыл бұрын

@@tareekmclean1301 right, cuz his team lost. U understand there’s 4 other guys on the court at all times? Teams win games, not 1 player.

@fear7126

2 жыл бұрын

@@Honsyy Curry did what KD didnt ur arguement is still flawed

@Honsyy

2 жыл бұрын

@@fear7126 currys team did what KDs team didn’t*

Correction Stephen A KD wouldn’t have won those two titles without Warriors

@JayRCity

2 жыл бұрын

2018 warriors could’ve definitely beat the cavs without KD but 17 idk. Cavs just beat fear into the GSW. They needed each other.

@seoulprojectseoulproject6465

2 жыл бұрын

This is the truth,why is no one saying golden state did for kd like how we finally gave him confidence to go try seek a titles in brooklyn

@Joker-jz9cn

2 жыл бұрын

KD hasnt won anything wihtout playing with curry but curry has lol

@danielsmith6553

2 жыл бұрын

Golden state wouldn’t have won without kd either...so stupid

@cgmshow1871

2 жыл бұрын

They needed each other why do people have a hard time understanding that

Tim Duncan definitely deserves the spot in top 10... love that dude.. love his humility ❤

@eliasjohn9247

2 жыл бұрын

Love or hate him (if u hate Tim u have a serious problem) best PF of all time he deserves top 10

@MrE_

2 жыл бұрын

@@eliasjohn9247 definitely. And 5 championships speak for themselves

@Tony-fq5bn

2 жыл бұрын

Tim Duncan prob 2nd most underrated star of all time(5 more years and Il have him tied with Moses tho)

@jonathanwatson1908

Жыл бұрын

He's on my Mt. Rushmore. He's definitely the best PF of all time

Steph doesn't get enough credit, no matter how you rank these players, Curry is highest rated player being 6'3" and under. That should be taken in consideration considering most of the top-rated talent are relatively tall, even Kobe.

@seventy3percent

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Best "short" player of all time

@judyclarkson5887

2 жыл бұрын

The best unathletic player of all-time indeed.

@thesinfultruth7697

2 жыл бұрын

The problem is .none of u know ball.. the fact is.. short tall fast slow CURRY IS top 5 all time and the reason is obvious

@christophermorris2434

2 жыл бұрын

@@judyclarkson5887 that would be Larry bird

@jackalsdole

2 жыл бұрын

I know right. If only Curry had KD’s height. It would be over for the league.

No matter how you put it… with out mentioning awards, accolades, & longevity…we have NEVER seen a player play like Steph Curry. The man plays like he’s not from earth.

@waulstreet

2 жыл бұрын

🎯

@realtalk2046

2 жыл бұрын

Right, steph and Ja are both on the next level Ja at driving and finishing and steph at shooting

@struggleoflife6025

2 жыл бұрын

@@realtalk2046 ja isn’t in any conversation

@acetv5333

2 жыл бұрын

@@realtalk2046 Morant just have flashy dunks. Kyrie and Curry is way better than him in inside finishing. Shaq even said that Curry is the best inside finisher.

@firstnamelastname-ko3ge

2 жыл бұрын

@@realtalk2046 Ja?? We’ve seen MANY players like Ja 😂😂😂😂

Not only did they win a chip without KD they BEAT KD & Russ! They overcame down 3-1 Steph & Klay went nuclear & KD n mostly Russ choked why is that not factored in whenever they have this discussion?

@mylestonah_kruezeeznk8214

2 жыл бұрын

That 3-1 comeback was 16, they won in 15 tho

@chay770

2 жыл бұрын

cause it makes kd sound bad lmao, they never want to talk about anything that makes their boys look bad. Larry Bird and magic would never allow a blowing a 3-1 lead

@chili015

2 жыл бұрын

@Taylor - That's factually incorrect. The year the Warriors beat the Thunder after being down 3-1, they went on to lose to the Cavs in the Finals after being up 3-1. Durant went to the Warriors the next season and they proceeded to win 2 more championships.

@Gabeereps

2 жыл бұрын

@@chili015 I know I conflated both yrs should’ve explained it more

@camdrummond4649

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gabeereps Klay went nuclear not Steph. Game 6 Klay is a thing now. Don’t give Steph that credit. We all know what happened

Steph is my favorite player! But let’s all agree Steph Curry >> KD. Steph has brought sooo much to HIS team. 3 rings. Here’s my question. How many rings did KD get for the OKC?!

@adidasboy3207

2 жыл бұрын

The only unanimous MVP... not even MJ or lebron got that gold standard

@wandamajette5000

2 жыл бұрын

Zero, Zilch, Nada.

@radixonix839

2 жыл бұрын

@@adidasboy3207 0 finals mvp and he'll never win one. Kd has 2 finals mvp and prove who thes best on the team really is

@wyattfriend7360

2 жыл бұрын

@@radixonix839 finals mvp isnt to prove whos the best on the team, thats not part of the sport Lol.

@jamesgj5939

2 жыл бұрын

@@adidasboy3207 If not even MJ or Lebron got unanimous regular season MVP then that should show you that it may not be something to be regarded as highly as you regard it when comparing players

My top 15: 1. Jordan 2. Lebron 3. Kareem 4. Wilt 5. Magic 6. Timmy 7. Kobe 8. Larry 9. Hakeem 10. Shaq 11. Curry 12. Russell 13. Robertson 14. West 15. Durant

@felixsmith2362

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@-hunt-6225

2 жыл бұрын

This is probably the closest I’ve ever seen to my list. This is legit

@allenglennfernandez5522

2 жыл бұрын

Fax, although Curry over Shaq is debatable.

The fact that steph didn’t get final mvp in 2015 gotta be the biggest robbery ever. 2 17 point 4Q in game 3,5 and 13 in close out game 6 while averaging 26 6 5 overall. Only argument was literally gm 1 but everything else is sensational.

@moman3w

2 жыл бұрын

Numbers don’t tell the whole story most ppl who watched that series in it’s entirety felt that curry had the most impact on the warriors and the fact that it was even a convo is very telling

@JayRCity

2 жыл бұрын

Curry scored yes but Andre had a heavier load. Iguodala averaged 16.3 points, 5.8 rebounds and 4.0 assists per game. shooting 40 percent from 3-point range and guarding James every night

@moman3w

2 жыл бұрын

Steph was also never the best player on the court out of the 5 finals he’s been in

@hoppy23

2 жыл бұрын

Yea every shooter has a off night, curry hasn't even been bad as a playoff player at all kobe has worse series and still won at times ud say take off big o for kd and put curry over curry curry is 10th best all time for me at least and kd is at least top 5 for me personally he's too good at ball I don't care about nothing else he played with russ the bust half his career russ isn't a winner he out shot kd just bc he wanted to be the leader smh kd has a case for better then bron

@hoppy23

2 жыл бұрын

@@JayRCity so that's not how finals mvps are usually handed out it was a narrative thing curry did impact the warriors the most that's why when igudula left the warriors were still good

No way KD reaches top 10 IMO, for a player with his talent he should have way more on his resume especially if we’re considering him to be “the best or 2nd best player in the league” since 2017.

@kyleelpel9402

2 жыл бұрын

Since 2012 he’s been considered top 2 in the league

@judyclarkson5887

2 жыл бұрын

@@kyleelpel9402 Not really. Steph took that reign off him since 2015 (tho it only lasted for 2 seasons). He even took it to the next level since lots of ppl were actually believing that Steph was the main face of the league over Lebron after that 2016 mvp campaign (tho of course it got cancelled after the 2016 finals happened).

@akimprince8551

2 жыл бұрын

@@TakumiKhashi that’s cap and I don’t even like westbrook like that but kd was throwing bricks in game 5,6,7 too vs gsw

@andrerandall7873

2 жыл бұрын

@@judyclarkson5887 no he didn’t 🤡

@judyclarkson5887

2 жыл бұрын

@@TakumiKhashi Kd was 1/7 with 4 points on the 4th quarter of that game 6 when Klay went off and ripped their heart apart at Okc. Even Westbrook went a bit better with 8 points (2/7) on that quarter of that game 6. And on game 7 Curry outplayed Kd with his efficient 37 points (13/23 7/12 from 3). So stop the cap when you don't know anything about ball apparently.

KD over steph is kind of laughable seeing that KDs only chips were with steph when steph had already gone to 2 finals and won 1 🤔 kid should be 2 slots higher than giannis and u COOLD STILL DEBATE THAT GIANNIS MIGHT DESERVE TO BE HIGHER THAN HIM💯🤔

@MrE_

2 жыл бұрын

The funny thing about the steph vs KD debate is that we can't use the excuse of "different eras" like we use for the goat debate. These dudes have played together and against each other for years. It's almost like the bill Russell vs wilt debate, one accomplished more but the other is usually regarded as the better player. Same with kd vs steph. Steph accomplished more, KD was pretty much always regarded as the better player tho. So which do we rank higher?

@phenomenalsaviour7803

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrE_ Steph

@zacharypeery4082

2 жыл бұрын

Giannis is higher because he is Elite on both ends of the floor, KD and Steph have NEVER made a All Defensive Team in they're entire careers.

@raseanbenton1456

2 жыл бұрын

And kd is better

was steph clutch when he outplayed kd in game 5,6,7 of the 2016 WCF? was he clutch in 2018 when kd went down, he led them to back-to-back wins against Houston, scoring 33 in the second half of game 5? was he clutch the year before when kd was struggling against Houston and steph closed with 16 pts that 4th qt to go to the finals? was he clutch in game 1 of the finals that year when kd was still struggling and nearly cost them that game, he had 14pt in 4th and hit the shot to send it to overtime? this false narrative needs to stop.

@falahmohammed2708

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for this comment!! 💯

@phenomenalsaviour7803

2 жыл бұрын

So bring clutch decides it LoL 🤣🤣

@Jo-fk1be

2 жыл бұрын

I love how ppl say steph doesn’t show up in the finals but he averaged 27, 8, and 9 in 2017 and 28, 7, and 7 in 2018. Then 31, 5, and 6 in 2019

@CBCB78

2 жыл бұрын

This is 💯. Preach !!!!!!

I'm taking Curry over Durant when it comes to all time.

@Jon155mt

2 жыл бұрын

Except Curry has never been a better player than Durant. Him being on a better team is irrelevant.

@83jdc1

2 жыл бұрын

@Jon155 let's look at Curry's accomplishments before 2017 and KD before 2017 Curry: 2 finals, 1 championship, 1 scoring title, 2 MVP, 1 Unanimous MVP, best record in NBA history, broke 3 point record TWICE!!! Not to mention came back from a 3-1 lead on KD in the west finals. Durant: 1 Finals loss, 1 MVP, 4 scoring titles. Curry has had better team success as well as better individual success, hence Kevin Durant joined Steph Curry, not the other way around.

@dewman7477

2 жыл бұрын

@@83jdc1 GSW had better supporting cast than KD who had westbrick. I’m taking Klay and Draymond over westbrick and Ibaka lol 😂 and KD in 2012 (did have baby westbrick and harden) faced peak LeBron and Wade and Bosh Miami superteam while curry with prime Klay and Draymond played injured Cavs without Kyrie and love basically LeBron carrying them to 6 games. KD put up better overall stats in 2012 finals than curry did in 2015 finals the difference was curry had more help and faced injured team while KD faced superteam with baby teammates barely in nba. KD has been better than curry in every finals and playoffs as well. KD is just a better player with more finals mvps and more overall accolades. Without KD GSW sticks with 1 title that’s it LeBron wins 6 rings. KD saved curry from another loss to LeBron and from LeBron becoming the goat

@Light13807

2 жыл бұрын

Coz curry is unselfish star let's see if curry changed himself

@XxAznVietRetardXDxX

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jon155mt Curry brings more gravity toward him than Durant. More teams are afraid of Curry going off than Durant as well. You can take individual stats into account, but don't forget basketball is a team game. Curry is better at elevating his team's success.

KD would have 0 chips without Steph and Steph knocked KD out of the playoffs....case closed

@warnerjones9932

2 жыл бұрын

@UCVzLgSkMRbB1y3rRuHAljaw who said it was just about rings?.....Rings along with performance matters.... steph can shoot mid range as well...what's the difference between a dunk and a layup?...steph averages more steals than durant....steph is more durable and available than durant.

@dxtremecaliber

2 жыл бұрын

@@warnerjones9932 Steph lost in the 2019 Finals cuz KD is out he needs KD he cannot beat that Defensive beast 2019 Raptors squad lol

@warnerjones9932

2 жыл бұрын

@@dxtremecaliberThe same series where Klay Thompson got hurt???

@amadorluis2008

2 жыл бұрын

@@warnerjones9932 exactly people forget the Warriors had a leas when klay got hurt . And if I’m not mistaken they swept Portland without KD

@christophermorris2434

2 жыл бұрын

@@dxtremecaliber and this is still a fact kd has never won a title wo steph, even though he left to build a super team in Brooklyn 1 playoff round win in 3 years lol.see how easy that was

KD: Greatest scorer of all time. Curry: Greatest shooter of all time. Both are GREATEST at what they do, so the only way to settle this debate is to rank them based on accolades. I believe Curry had the better career so far.

@taps2k179

2 жыл бұрын

Smartest comment by far an accurate asf

@MusOfficial323

2 жыл бұрын

Lol exactly and the dudes that don't reply cant say none cause its facts. Smart comment

@Chillez69

2 жыл бұрын

KD isn’t greatest scorer of all time but he’s up there

@acedlovesclips

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chillez69 jordan is the greatest scorer

@Chillez69

2 жыл бұрын

@@acedlovesclips I won’t disagree with that 👍

The Big Fundamental should definitely be ahead of Shaq and in the top 5. Had Timmy D not been so humble he would have been rated much higher. He is just one Ray Allen shot away from having the same record in finals as MJ.

@MJ_Cruz

2 жыл бұрын

the level of disrespect on Duncan after all these years, my god. 100% agree with you!

@realking4918

2 жыл бұрын

HE IS NOT BETTER THAN SHAQ

@kevinobida8473

2 жыл бұрын

@@MJ_Cruz You’d take prime TD over prime Shaq?

@MJ_Cruz

2 жыл бұрын

@@realking4918 I know, but we have to add overall individual and team accolades here. Shaq, the better and dominant player but Duncan is more skillful and no pun intended, Fundamentally better.

@MJ_Cruz

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinobida8473 I'm gonna be a bit bias here 'cause I'm a Spurs fan so to answer your question, Yes, I would pick Duncan over Shaq. I'm a fan of Shaq as well.

I feel like alot of these convos lack context. "KD was clearly the best cause he had better numbers in the finals to get those FMVPs". Ty Lue is on record that doubling/trapping Steph was the #1 priority.

@Aj-ng7kq

2 жыл бұрын

The plan for the Warriors has always been to let Kd and Klay get buckets, but don’t let Steph touch the ball. The Warriors essentially play iso ball with KD whenever teams deny Steph and they’d take that all day.

@dcdj35

2 жыл бұрын

@@Aj-ng7kq Because while KD is amazing and can win you games, Steph is the one who can break games wide open.

@Aj-ng7kq

2 жыл бұрын

@@dcdj35 yea, i agree. truly believe in my soul that the warriors would have zero chips if KD and Curry swapped teams.

@barehands9614

2 жыл бұрын

I think you're taking that out of context also... Doubling/trapping KD has no effect because he can just shoot over anyone anyway. Much more efficient to try your best to stop someone that's actually possible to guard.

@kingrichard8188

2 жыл бұрын

What I been saying everybody/team doubled Steph in all those finals but they let kd play one and him and curry still was average the same points a game

Anybody notice Jay said the Kareem at 4 and Magic at 5 when his list is magic at 4 and Kareem at 5 😂

@FaceFamous

2 жыл бұрын

He mis spoke 🤷‍♂️

I’m a suns fan and right now gsw are our rivals for the west but how you gonna disrespect Curry’s rings. Clearly he wins ring without KD and they were already the best team in the world. Once KD joined it made it harder to beat them. Tbh I don’t count KDs rings because if he never went to GS he would have no ring. Yet people still think the Nets can win a championship with KD yea right they still have to get past the warriors or suns before getting that ring. I don’t see KD getting another ring we’re as curry I can see it has he has don’t it before!

@michaelgieseler2799

2 жыл бұрын

Of course you ignore how Steph got his first “legit” ring against a beat up Cavs team. Steph fan boys can’t accept that. You say you can’t disrespect curry’s 2nd and 3rd rings, but then, at the same time, you don’t count KD’s rings just because he went to GS despite KD winning both FMVPs and Steph losing to the raptors when KD got hurt again? You are a Steph fan boy if I’ve ever seen one getting all upset about people ranking KD higher than Steph lol

@Thunder0200

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelgieseler2799 in that sense Lebron only has 2 rings

@michaelgieseler2799

2 жыл бұрын

@@Thunder0200 that’s not the point; I’m not counting up how many rings theoretically we count. It’s the fact that LeBron has proven it legitimately multiple times. Steph has two championships playing on a team that was 73-9 and added the second best player in the world afterwards. That’s why the guy in the main comment won’t count KD’s rings, but he counts Steph’s lol. The point is steph has one ring without that team where he got to play a injury stricken team, and weirdly enough, steph didn’t win FMVP. LeBron has never won a ring without clearly being the best player, especially in the finals. You even gave LeBron credit for two rings still yourself using the same logic. Therefore, Steph has never proven it to me. Also, I can only remember LeBron playing a team in the finals with that bad of injury luck in the most recent one against the heat. So idk how you say with the same logic I’m using LeBron would only have two

@Thunder0200

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelgieseler2799 well technically if your not counting super teams then lebron has none. The bubble was against a crippled team, warriors had an injured steph, bogut and draymond got suspended. His other two was a super team where he got bailed out by ray Allen.

@Come_andGO

2 жыл бұрын

@@Thunder0200 lmao he aint responding no more

Why do they never mention that Steph beat KD the following year? Coming back from a 3-1 deficit?

The fact that Kobe is listed at 10 and Shaq is at 11 is all you need to know about this list , SMH !!

@mogalero7705

2 жыл бұрын

Facts lol ESPN always drops the ball on these rankings, they are so bad

@MesseJellon

2 жыл бұрын

Completely agree. Kobe is not top 10 and Shaq is top 5

@ah6169

2 жыл бұрын

@@MesseJellon Maybe you misunderstood my post ! Kobe should be in Top 5 and Shaq in Top 10

@gzk13kc28

2 жыл бұрын

@@ah6169 he didn't...he is just a ameba

if Steph started dunking like Prime Westbrook he’d be the best player of all time😂

@camdrummond4649

2 жыл бұрын

No he wouldn’t. Maybe if he played defense like prime Gary Payton. Yet he won’t even guard his own position in the playoffs tho lmao

The top 10 needs to be the 2 best players for each position all time. That way you don't exclude players that are not playing stat heavy positions like pg and center. Therefore, Wilt and Kareem make the 2 best centers. Tim Duncan and Larry Bird are 2 best PF. Lebron and Kevin Durant are the 2 best Fowards. Jordan and Kobe, Step and Magic. There is you top 10 players ever!!!

it’s crazy how you can be the undisputed greatest shooter of ALL TIME but not be in the top 10 players all time. basketball is literally all about shooting the ball and steph is the BEST at it

@zacharypeery4082

2 жыл бұрын

No defense...., MJ, LeBron, Kobe, Duncan, etc all have multiple All Defensive First Team selections to match the elite offense, Curry has never and will never make a All Defensive Team and that is what Basketball is all about, being elite on both ends of the floor.

@Krrish-yt

2 жыл бұрын

@@zacharypeery4082 he’s an average defender his teammates are taller and stronger who would target in gs a 6,3 guard or 4 other players who are 6,6 or taller

@jamesgj5939

2 жыл бұрын

Basketball is not all about shooting the ball lmao

Tim Duncan doesn’t get enough credit he’s the most underrated player in the history of the league 🤦🏽‍♂️

@whatsyourpoint1facts942

2 жыл бұрын

Fact this is coming from a gsw fan sir 🙏🙏

@whatsyourpoint1facts942

2 жыл бұрын

And why do they have kd there not hating but he wouldn't won nothing without gsw 🙏🙏

@ummok720

2 жыл бұрын

The media always nerfs Tim duncan,kobe and steph.

@ja1boi

2 жыл бұрын

How they literally have him top 8 all time. You think he should be higher?

@maverick33guy95

2 жыл бұрын

@Rick Sin shaq was much more dominant than duncan

the fact that espn keep putting Big O over him is crazy. Its a fact he the second greatest pg ever. Should definitely be top 12 minimum and no question higher then kd. KD has no rings without curry

@edwardbarnes75

2 жыл бұрын

Point Guard...that's laughable how many assist titles ZERO, he's never averaged 9 assists in a season, if you're only known by how great of a shooter you are then you aren't really a point guard my friend. Steph is a shooting guard...no one wants to put him their because then he gets pushed down because of Mike, Kobe maybe even D. Wade, and A.I.

@bryandestine4476

2 жыл бұрын

@@edwardbarnes75 lmfao hes not gonna get pushed down by wade or ai thats ridiculous

@micahbarnett2317

2 жыл бұрын

and curry has 0 fmvps period. even when he didn't have KD on the team. KD was the best player on that warriors team/ steph wasn't . you can't be top 12 and u weren't even the best player on your own team which you are the face of

@brrr3301

2 жыл бұрын

@@edwardbarnes75 7ft tall, so how many blocks leader KD have?

@dxtremecaliber

2 жыл бұрын

and what happen to Steph when KD is out in the 2019 Finals? HE LOST HE NEEDS KD

No disrespect to Durant But Curry was already somebody before he joined the Warriors. Durant just benefited from the fact that Curry was willing to take a lower role in the team when he came in. Y'all keep forgetting that.

@ktownghost4026

2 жыл бұрын

@CH idek why u waste your time if he didn't already know that he's not worth debating with lol

@michaeln.2383

2 жыл бұрын

Durant jumped on the bandwagon.

@Jo-fk1be

2 жыл бұрын

I love how ppl say steph doesn’t show up in the finals but he averaged 27, 8, and 9 in 2017 and 28, 7, and 7 in 2018. Then 31, 5, and 6 in 2019

@MrSPIDEY21

2 жыл бұрын

@CH KD literally had way more talent than Steph..those warriors weren’t no super prospects. They were all drafted and they grew together. Russell Westbrook was a top 5 player, so was KD.

@mrrickstur

2 жыл бұрын

Manasa Vuibau Batiwale, 100% agreed

If Steph Curry wins just 1 Finals MVP his status in the top 10 would be unquestionable. If he wins another championship but not the Finals MVP,he would still at least have a strong Case just for what he's achieved as a shooter and a PG.

Steph already won without KD in 2015. I don’t understand this argument…. 🤷🏾‍♂️

@supernotnatural

2 жыл бұрын

Send Klay to Nets and watch KD win 10 rings. Now you understand the argument? Steph didn't win. He never even had finals MVP LOL. He is the greatest shooter. He isn't the great defender, rim protector,. He can't dunk. He can't pass. Draymond passes for him. protects rim for him. Klay, the #2 greatest 3pt shooter opens floor for him. Iguodala wins Finals MVP for him. lol. If curry was 2 great why didn't he beat Toronto without KD LOL KD almost beat Bucks by himself last year u forgot

@jayrosie6571

2 жыл бұрын

@@supernotnatural send klay to nets and harden and irving to warriors

@vincemeyers2064

2 жыл бұрын

Look at who he won against and that rebuts you weak argument

@dxtremecaliber

2 жыл бұрын

And Steph lost in the Finals cuz KD is out in 2019 but okay go on

@qmiller830

2 жыл бұрын

@@supernotnatural that's false. . u know dam well curry shoulda got mvp dat year Iggy got it cuz he guarded Lebron not for leading the team to victory KD had kyrie in the bucks series till game 4 harden got hurt in game 1 kyrie went down kd won 1 game and loss the last 2 so how did he carry them and u sayin send klay to the nets u mad that warriors drafted and developed there players lol dats like sayin send kyrie n harden to the nets that's a dumb argument lol

The Fact That Giannis Is In The Top 20 All Time And He’s 26 Is Amazing. This Man Is Built Different

@caliba100

2 жыл бұрын

Giannis shouldn't be top 20 as yet. Id say 20 to 25 range, but the pace he's going, he could be a top 5 player.

@troyh.2024

2 жыл бұрын

@@caliba100 Let’s Here Ur Opinion On Why He Shouldn’t Be In The Top 20

@caliba100

2 жыл бұрын

@@troyh.2024 Im not gonna get all deep but Giannis only been great for like 4 seasons now. He's been to the finals once, got molly whop by heat in the bubble and still working on his shot. He only has 13k career points. His prime is rivaling MJ and LeBrons, but he needs to keep it up for 5 more seasons. Every year he can move up a spot or 2, but every ring he adds, he can move up 5 spots.

@troyh.2024

2 жыл бұрын

@@caliba100 True

@javathehut3593

2 жыл бұрын

no it just shows how overrated he is

If there was any doubt, Steph blew that out of the water with his 4th ring.

Honestly, I think Steph should've gotten the finals MVP in 2018. KD only outperformed Steph in ONE game and that was game 3. In game 1, 2 and 4 Steph performed better than KD.

TD definitely top 10 man stop tha cap lmao…..also Curry is most definitely ahead of KD

@Co-nx9ww

2 жыл бұрын

KD better

@romeothompson9389

2 жыл бұрын

The most disrespected player in the history of the game imo people will move mountains to somehow discredit Duncan lol it’s ridiculous

Let’s also take into account curry is the only person ever to average 26 points and six assists Per game in three different finals and not win an finals MVP. Also to be fair you should have one of Kevin Durants and should have iggys. Now as far as Jay Williams list curry has accomplished more than Kevin Durant so he should be number 10. Also take into account curry has more mvps and he won without Durant . So basically Kevin Durant needed to come to Golden State so he can win his rings also I curry should have one of the finals mvps. the couldn’t do it without Kevin Durant argument doesn’t hold water because without curry they couldn’t either. Curry has proven he can win without Durant and win a title The reverse is not true also Curry is more durable and Durant has played with more All-Stars But less championships

@mr.anderson3694

2 жыл бұрын

In 55 NBA Finals games Lebron has averaged 28.4 ppg, 10.2 rebounds and 7.8 assists. He's averaged at least 30 ppg six times in the playoffs. The season they beat GS in the Finals he was averaging 35 ppg lol Stop wishing on a well. Curry couldn't even get GS into the playoffs last season, while KD single handely carried Brooklyn to within a "toe" of the conference finals.

@isandrooo

2 жыл бұрын

Take a new account? You mean take into account😅

@qmiller830

2 жыл бұрын

@@mr.anderson3694 bro wat r u talking about curry missed almost 25 games last season no klay the second scorer for the whole year KD had harden an Kyrie the whole first round Kyrie got hurt game 4 in the second round he had dem majority of the playoffs except the last 3 games of the bucks series kd won only 1 game after they both got hurt lol wat u mean kd carried them . . and on top of that head to head curry always beat kd including the playoffs conference finals u really trippin

@camdonking1919

2 жыл бұрын

@@mr.anderson3694 Steph took a roster full of G league players to the 8th seed. and had them at 5th before he got hurt

@ethanial3671

2 жыл бұрын

@@mr.anderson3694 KD was not carrying, he played absolutely phenomenal in the playoffs against Milwaukee but steph had no help the entire season while he being double or triple teamed every game, and still averaged 32 and had 30+ in both play in games they lost

Great debate and insight from both..

Yo one of the best from Stephen A I ever heard.. great job bru

KD still hasn’t gotten another ring without Curry and o don’t think he will

U know i dont mind Steph being in the top 10 i think he has impacted the game more than enough to have top 10 cases

@kckc7140

2 жыл бұрын

Just because u impact the game don't mean ur better than the 10 guys ahead of u, Steph has 3 rings with no finals MVP, his accolades don't hold up next to the other greats

@kckc7140

2 жыл бұрын

@C don't nobody got Oscar Robertson top 10 other than dumb a$$ ESPN, Steph top 15 but not top 10, closer to 15 then 10

@velocirshtr3756

2 жыл бұрын

@@kckc7140 the big O’s cachet dwindled after Westbrickshow accomplished the same triple double feat. We thought that would never happen but Russ made it happen! Unfortunately averaging a triple double aint what it’s cracked up to be therefore Big O’s ranking is fluffed up considering only winning 1 ring. Russ on the other hand will be ringless

@kckc7140

2 жыл бұрын

@@velocirshtr3756 first and foremost don't disrespect the great Russell Westbrook, that man is a 2x scoring champion and 3x assists champion, he's a hall of famer without the triple doubles because he was that great in his athletic prime

@velocirshtr3756

2 жыл бұрын

@@kckc7140 then Russ and Oscar should be closely ranked but clearly not the case.

Jay Will Steph should have 2 Finals MVP's. 2015 he was the best player on the winning team. 2018 he was the best player( he had the best finals) in the series. If you wanna debate I'm all for it.

All I will say is this: watch the finals between the cavs and the warriors and pay attention to WHO the cavs defense was double teaming off the ball starting at half court on every possession. Hint: it wasn’t durant.

@Ncloud

2 жыл бұрын

Because putting pressure on Steph Curry is easier than KD. KD is 7 feet when he lifts up and shoots he's shooting a like 9-10 feet easy so he's basically in the clear shooting it's a huge advantage for KD and he's the best to do it at his size and length. Steph in that series went more point guard mode imo.

Can someone explain how Kareem is not the best basketball player in history? Jordan number 2. Jordan didn't even get to so many finals. That's why he should be number 2. Even saying that how can we ignore Wilt's absolute dominance as an individual player. Russell played on an all star team. This is about individual accomplishments mixed with talent mixed with some team accomplishments. Wilt changed the game. Curry changed the game.

Top 10 should not be about talent, its about accomplishments, why do these guys put KD on there based on talent, his accolades are nowhere close to what they have in the top 10

Why do we have to see Steph win w/o kd to crack the top 10, but Kd gets into the top 10 having never won a chip w/o Steph?

Top-down, left-to-right. Thanks

His impact on the game is undeniable. If he can get 1 more ring there’s no way he’s outside of top 10

@shomoy7396

2 жыл бұрын

He needs a fmvp

@judyclarkson5887

2 жыл бұрын

2 for me. So he'll have a Kobe-like career. Got disrespected in his first 3 championships just to get 2 more while become the finals mvp. That'll put him as an absolute top 10 player of all-time.

@ronald8664

2 жыл бұрын

A 4th ring makes him top 7, stop!

@Co-nx9ww

2 жыл бұрын

KD better

@youngboy2140

2 жыл бұрын

He has 3… lol.. combine that with his other accolades he is a top 10. Why people keep trynna throw extras on to it.. he doesn’t have a Finals MVP… he did it with KD… One can argue heavily that if not for him the others wouldn’t shine or be who they’re supposed to be

JWill’s top ten is invalid. Can’t have Bill Russell and not Wilt Chamberlain

@qmiller830

2 жыл бұрын

u can

@Griffx99

2 жыл бұрын

@@qmiller830 you can’t considering Wilt dominated Bill in all those finals. Bill Russell was just playing with all the HOFers

Curry is definitely in the top ten. Him alone shifted the tendency of the league from the Centers being the way teams use to build their lineup. Is one of the biggest changes ever. And of course, he’s no only the best shooter ever, but and incredible point guard.

@kingjoshuamanatad2140

2 жыл бұрын

No finals MVP.

@Come_andGO

2 жыл бұрын

@@kingjoshuamanatad2140 finals mvp is an award voted on by the media. How much basketball knowledge do you have if you allow that to affect your opinion? None im guessing.

@kingjoshuamanatad2140

2 жыл бұрын

​@@Come_andGO Every player included in the top 10 greatest players of all time have atleast 2 Finals MVP in their resume. So for Curry to enter that conversation he must a Finals MVP which he can realistically can win this upcoming NBA Finals. But no doubt Curry unique skillset might be top 10 all time. But accolades wise, the only thing missing in his resume is Finals MVP.

When the rankings are close..no one is right or wrong on their list. Can we end this debate and arguing already and just respect and love all the greatness we get to witness in our life

Bird was a better passer, rebounding, and defense than KD

@velocirshtr3756

2 жыл бұрын

Bird has MORE grit!!!! That’s why he’s a Hall-of-famer.

The knock on Kobe wasn't just he lacked the MVPs/Finals MVPs and has the most bricks in NBA history. For a guy known to be a better scorer than even MJ (during the reg season), he only won 2 scoring titles. Iverson won 4. KD won 4.

@dominiquebrown2890

2 жыл бұрын

Scoring titles dont win rings for the most part. Also dont forget kobe was one of the greatest perimeter defenders of all time.

@justinjones9579

2 жыл бұрын

Kobe also was playing behind Shaq early in his prime. Having the ability to avg 30 a game as a second option is crazy

@terrellewilliams2188

2 жыл бұрын

If he retired after Achilles injury would he have had that record? And does Free throws count?

@dresantana7157

2 жыл бұрын

Scoring also doesn’t mean highest ppg means different ways you can score and when you do put up those points. Plus Kobe was really never healthy his whole career and still would give you 30 if he needed to

@munir9527

2 жыл бұрын

Lebron James has the most missed shots in Playoff history

KD wasn’t clearly GS’ best player Stephen A. where did that come from? As far as I can recall, Steph is an ALL-WORLD talent in his own right and still is now

Steph is absolutely my favorite player in the league right now. He's the best player in the league at his position and should be in the MVP conversation pretty much every year he's healthy. That being said, I would have him ahead of KD at #11 (KD being at #12) but not quite top 10 yet. If the Warriors win the chip this year, he'll be top 10. All the top 10 guys have at least one Finals MVP, so as much as I hate that narrative, I do agree that he'll need at least one to crack the top 10 (I'm assuming he'll be the Finals MVP if the Warriors win the chip this year, because that's the only way they win it, in my opinion). Edit: Steph is now #7 on my list, ahead of Shaq, Bird, and Russell, and just behind Duncan.

I don’t know that he’ll finish there. He can absolutely do it if he keeps amassing accolades. I’d say it’s hard to keep him out if he wins another ring, and a final mvp. I’d say regardless it’s very hard to keep him out of 10-15 tho, regardless of what happens

@bobt9705

2 жыл бұрын

If Steph wins FMVP then who are you gonna take out of the top 10 off Jay will's list?? I'm guessing KD to you?

@acetv5333

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobt9705 Probably the Big O or Kobe.

@brendanbloom3366

2 жыл бұрын

Those are team accomplishments. Curry isn't top 25 player.

@bobt9705

2 жыл бұрын

@@brendanbloom3366 lol. Please NAME 25 better than Curry?? He's definitely top 20. I already have him top 15.

@brendanbloom3366

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobt9705 not in any particular order. Wilt Russell Kareem hakeem Shaq Jordan KD Kobe LeBron Dr J Baylor West Gervin Oscar Barkley Dirk Barry Wade Reed Garnett Drexler Duncan Moses Karl Robinson

Steph my favorite player of all time if he wins this year he’s a top 10 lock but not right now

@dwainfrett5385

2 жыл бұрын

Right. I agree

@fear7126

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

There's a case for it. MJ, Kareem, LeBron, Magic, Bird, Russell, Kobe, Wilt and Shaq are locks for any Top 10, in my opinion. That's 9 people, which leaves an open slot at No. 10, and I do think Curry is a part of that conversation, alongside Oscar Robertson, Duncan, Hakeem and maybe Julius Irving. I'd probably still have Oscar and Hakeem ahead of Steph, at least. I don't think Durant is a part of that conversation, as skilled as he is, he'd have to prove he can do it on his own over the course of his career. I also think Giannis has a shot at eclipsing all these other guys and finish up as a Top 5-7 player of all time when he retires.

3:40 😂😂😂 look at his facial expression and tone.

ESPN always finds a way to diminish the greatness of Curry. They always talk about steph won because kd join the warriors, but how about Lebron? Curry only have KD in the top 75 greatest players of all time.. Lebron have 5 ( 6 if we include Shaq ).

@caliba100

2 жыл бұрын

Curry had reliable teammates until his 5th year in the finals when klay and KD went down. Curry is great, but he can't carry by himself. Need atleast klay and Draymond for things to run smooth.

@nazkidd1395

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed bro.

@nazkidd1395

2 жыл бұрын

@@caliba100 Just take a look at what your saying man. Curry can't carry by himself?? But he only got 1 teammate in 75 to Lebron got 6 teammate in 75. Who is the one that can't carry by himself? 🤔

@jamesgj5939

2 жыл бұрын

Steph's teammate (Draymond) himself thinks Lebron is the GOAT

The fact that hakeem gets dismissed from this debate for the top 10 is mind boggling to me dude was a beast in his prime and his two chips are more valuable than kd's two chips ever were Edit: yes ik on paper kd and hakeem each got two chips I meant that hakeems chips were tougher to win than kd's that all I meant by that

@losfyl3572

2 жыл бұрын

No they are worth the same lol

@Oneil_Henry

2 жыл бұрын

2 rings are still 2 rings and if jordan didnt retire those years hakeem most likely would have 0 rings

@bobt9705

2 жыл бұрын

@@Oneil_Henry I hate this talk. NO WAY was the Bulls winning 8 straight titles in the 90s. Give me Houston still winning in 94 had MJ stayed. Chcago barely got by the Knicks in 93. The Bulls first dynasty was trending down and I'm confident enough to say that the Bulls werent winning 4 straight titles.

@Muristacks

2 жыл бұрын

@@losfyl3572 I meant this in terms of context obviously on paper 2=2 but kd's rings came when he was on a superteam hakeem carried his teams and they obviously weren't super teams and won back to back imo hakeem is better than kd

@Oneil_Henry

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobt9705 u believe in 94 the rockets that went to a game 7 with the knicks would beat the bulls if jordan played that year

He changed the game. His effect to the game as a short guys is the biggest of all

Question whats the requirements on being top whats the check list? What needs to be completed or goals meet to be considered? Like what do u have to add? Rings mvps ppg avg in a season what is it? Or is it like he is popular hes 1 hes less popular he is 2 what is it?

Finally SAS speaks on KD’s career the way it should be spoken on. Yes he has 2 rings but at what cost? I’d leave him off the top 10 and put steph in his spot instead

@fear7126

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@dxtremecaliber

2 жыл бұрын

and Steph needed KD in the 2019 NBA Finals

@whataguy69

2 жыл бұрын

@@dxtremecaliber warriors would have won the 2019 finals even after KD got hurt if Klay wasn’t injured .. don’t play dumb and act like steph klay and draymond weren’t 1-1 in the finals before KD got there lol

I know Kobe had Shaq next to him, but for 12 other years, Shaq wasn't there. And Kobe was the Lakers' leading scorer by 2001 (his 5th year). You should dominate your contemporaries crushing T-Mac and Iverson that MJ did to Nique and Drexler.

@velocirshtr3756

2 жыл бұрын

Different conferences, you fool. What happened when TMac came to the WCF? Exactly….

Changed the game man. Not many can say that. 2 more championships and it's unquestionable

no question he is top 10. he stayed on the same team his whole career 1, and is one of the most winningest players of all time 2, I think he wouldve won without KD. cavs had no chance in 2017 and 2018. 3, best shooter of all time, mosts 3s 4, there is so much reasons why. his accolades are undeniable, and he still could win more chips.

@jamesgj5939

2 жыл бұрын

Cavs had no chance in 2017 and 2018 because KD joined the team, not because of Steph Curry lol--dude and his team choked their way out of a 3-1 lead against the Cavs in 2016 without KD.

Why did they always bring the argument about KD?? I could make the argument, well its a fact that KD never won without steph. Steph won without KD, yet they saying that KD is better than steph. I agree that KD got those 2 finals MVP but when you couldn't even win a championship with the other player, I feel that KD should not be higher than steph. Steph had 1 more MVP than KD, and it wasn't like KD was carrying steph in the finals. Steph did avg 27(26.8), 8, 9 and 27, 6, 6 in 2017 and 2018 finals respectively. And without KD, he won the 2015 finals and in 2019 he avg 30, 5, 6 in the finals. Well, I think steph should be ranked above KD, just my opinion though.

@kuyaleyam8080

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed

I'm not 100% on "kd was clearly the best player on golden state"

Same i have curry at 11 and 12

“I factoring players who are killers” lol

well that aged well

When it's all set and done Steph will easily be In top 10 all time. He's definitely winning at least one more ring and MVP

@bryandestine4476

2 жыл бұрын

no not definitely.

@doctorsam5771

2 жыл бұрын

@NBA Instagram Your name is NBA Instagram nothing you ever say will be taken seriously LMFAO

@dxtremecaliber

2 жыл бұрын

@NBA Instagram hes gonna win one more but hes not Top 10 and defintely better than KD period

@doctorsam5771

2 жыл бұрын

@NBA Instagram Oh yeah? Who asked?

this is how people with sport knowledge argue...love it

Curry Top 10 easy/ dude was and is a true game changer...the game still in the form he changed it too

Bro Curry has Effect and done more In the NBA then KD ever has people are in love with what KD can do not what he has done

@camdonking1919

2 жыл бұрын

fax

MJ, Kareem, Lebron, Magic, Wilt, Russell, Kobe, Shaq, Duncan and Bird are the top 10. Steph and KD are in that 11-14 range along with Hakeem and Oscar and for them to crack the top 10 they need to win at least one more championship - Steph to get that finals MVP and KD to prove he can win without Steph and Warriors. But the biggest problem is the disrespect Stephen A showed towards Tim Duncan. He is a 5 time champion, one of the best defender and one of the most consistent player of all time and Stephen A wants to argue that Duncan shouldnt be in the top 10 smh

@jakoblarson4597

2 жыл бұрын

I swear that finals mvp is the most overrated award in sports and nobody taking Oscar over Durant and Steph

@xoniye3573

2 жыл бұрын

@@jakoblarson4597 Oscar hella overrated

@jakoblarson4597

2 жыл бұрын

@@xoniye3573 I still would put him top 20-25

@timmyd5055

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for defending me

I think A ring and fmvp puts Steph top 10 and Arguable Goat PG And if he does so KDs legacy takes a hit imo Curry with 4 rings will now prove that he’s won before KD with KD and after KD and Durants rings are going to be valued even less

After this championship he will be up there no questions asked

Duncan disrespect unreal

@Mj-uz1ng

2 жыл бұрын

Fr

KD has played with Westbrook, kyrie, and harden and couldn't get a ring without going to Steph's team..KD tried to put his own super team together and did nothing. Curry had his team in first place with 3 starters out.

@hamunivadmin2750

2 жыл бұрын

facts!!

@chicagorainydayz3611

2 жыл бұрын

facttttttss

I mean sure you can make the argument that Golden State won a chip without KD but at the same time Goldenstate lost a 3-1 lead without KD when Bron had actual help so I think that cancels each other out. Curry over KD, personal opinion.

Steph was loyal to his team, Steph did something we’ve NEVER seen before with the 3 point shot. KD ONLY won cuz gsw was already established. Steph is def top 10 and will be once it’s all said and done

Hmm I know KD as a talent is better than Steph but KD wouldn’t have 2 rings if it wasn’t for Stephen Curry. Fun fact Curry got doubled team more in the finals which left KD and the crew open for more shots.

@hamunivadmin2750

2 жыл бұрын

facts 40 times to kd 3 times KD the only finals MVP in history with wide open finals highlights besides iggy and ty lue just came out and said curry was the #1 priority in the finals

The Wilt/Russell rivalry of their time reminds me a lot of the Manning/Brady rivalry. Now, I'm comparing Brady at the time when Manning retired. Obviously Brady's numbers increased a lot after Peyton retired. So, Wilt/Peyton had limited championships but had so many of the league leading/all time numbers. Where as Russell/Brady had less stellar all-time numbers, but had so many titles, and many more than anyone else in history.

THIS was EPIC and fun, one of my favourite first take segments EVER. To the Hall of Fame SAs point hese lists are so subjective aside from the top 2 with Jordan and LeBron, I'd put kobe at 4 JUST because Bill Russell has THE most titles in sports period 😭😭😂😂😂😂😎 so he has to be 3 then I'd go Tim Duncan JUST because he has won a ring prior to the 2022s in the past 4 decades and I go from there but Steph not just because he's a Carolina guy by way of college but his 3 range is Superman level AND with this list 3 years old and now Steph a 4 time CHAMP and has STILL several years ahead of him with at least 2 more titles at MAX waiting for him WHO knows 🙏. But big love to ALL these greats, first take, and ESPN

The thing with the Russel and Wilt argument, that Boston team was incomparable. Wilt did all he could. But it was not just Bill there.

Steph being out of the top 15 is disrespectful at this point.. Giannis should not be that close to steph for their careers just yet

@hatim289

2 жыл бұрын

Lmfao u should compare there careers at this point they are close even if steph have 2 more rings idont value those rings as giannis ring

@OffTopicKamah

2 жыл бұрын

@@hatim289 y’all choose to value rings when it supports your favorite players.. it’s also because steph has impacted the game in ways Giannis never has or could… this year is his first year where the masses considered him top 3 in the league.. Steph has been that since 2015…

@hatim289

2 жыл бұрын

@@OffTopicKamah are we talking about impact on the game ? Idonr care if he impact the game by three point shooting

@OffTopicKamah

2 жыл бұрын

@@hatim289 because you don’t know basketball that much

Please stop disrespecting Duncan he got 5 rings on Kobe/Shaq/Lebron era and 2 MVPs while being the best player on his team if he’s the greatest pf he should be ahead of Shaq 🤷🏾‍♂️

@youngblood4127

2 жыл бұрын

I have Duncan ahead of Shaq for sure. Duncan and LeBron is close for sure. But Duncan got 5 and was a better defender throughout. My top 6 is always 1. Jordan 2. Russell 3. Kareem 4. Wilt 5. Magic 6. Bird

@Mj-uz1ng

2 жыл бұрын

@@youngblood4127 same

@dominiquebrown2890

2 жыл бұрын

@@youngblood4127 i have kobe at 6 over bird i have bird at 7

@youngblood4127

2 жыл бұрын

@bLIZKA That's fine & true. Magic is just slightly more iconic in the grand scheme. Only By a smidge but both are important and are literally intertwined in history. You can't tell one story without the other. They're interchangeable.

Curry changed the way the game is played, undisputed greatest shooter of all time But aint no way he top 10 MJ, Lebron, Kareem, Wilt, Magic, Duncan, Kobe, Shaq, Bird, Hakeem all have a FAR better resume and that's just off the top of my head

WHAT THEY GONNA SAY NOW????? TAKE THIS TROPHY JAY WILLIAMS!!

It's insane how disrespected Larry is. Stehen A. made an argument for putting KD ahead of Bird and listed off some of KD's accolades, but the funny thing is, almost everything he listed off Larry has more of. Championships 3 to KDs 2 League MVPs 3 to KDs 1 FMVPs 2 to 2. Scoring titles 0 to KDs 4 Now you factor in all nba teams 1st teams : 9 to KDs 6 Total selections: 10 to KDs 9 Defensive selections: 3 to KDs 1 Now if you want to say KD would beat Larry 1 on 1 thats fine, but in terms of all time greatness, it's Larry by a mile. And that's not even taking into account that KDs rings and FMVPs are tainted and that Larry's rivalry with magic carried basketball through the 80's, meanwhile KD was never actually Lebron's rival and it was pretty clear cut that this was Lebron's era. Larry should be top 5, not being considered for bumping out of the top 10.

@markozbunjol625

2 жыл бұрын

Not only Bird but Hakeem also. You notice something beacuse i also notice this narative in last ten years. If you remember Bird and Hakeem is considered always top 10 player ever, Bird in early 00s considered top 5 and even top 3 player with Magic and Jordan. I remember that and only player after 00s who can put above Bird and Hakeem is Lebron. And somehow in last ten years Bird is bottom 10 and Hakeem not ten. This is narative with new generation. I mean, Bird considered many years better player then Magic.

@robbnoble1509

2 жыл бұрын

@@markozbunjol625 I personally have Hakeem in my top 10. I do think he's becoming forgotten but he was pretty clear cut the 2nd best player of the 90s, even if he declined at the end. But there are a lot of dudes near the end of the top 10 that can be argued that deserve to be there, so I understand why some people would not have him. With Larry it just seems like pure disrespect.

I felt bad for Trae Young during the All Star game....Steph was showing his little copycat how its done lol

@camdrummond4649

2 жыл бұрын

Yea until the 4th quarter when he usually chokes/goes cold

@gamesplaystv4004

2 жыл бұрын

Nobody was playing defense what are you talking about

@amadorluis2008

2 жыл бұрын

@@camdrummond4649 u mean when he was getting tripled team at half court ???? DURING AN ALL STAR GAME ????

@camdrummond4649

2 жыл бұрын

@@amadorluis2008 Lmao he was hitting shots thru 3 quarters. No show in the 4th. As usual. Make all the excuses you want casual

@camdrummond4649

2 жыл бұрын

And by the way, Steph wasn’t NEARLY as good as Trey is this early in his career. Give Trey Klay and KD. He’ll end up better than Steph anyways. Just watch. He actually has guts and a clutch gene

Steph Curry n dirk was the most game revolutionary players in the past 20 years

I like Jays list. Im on board with it.