Star Wars: Dark Forces - Extensive Retrospective┃History and Analysis

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Star Wars Dark Forces is widely considered one of the best Star Wars games ever made. Has it aged well? Does it live up to the hype?
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  • @evprince
    @evprince6 ай бұрын

    I made an EGREGIOUS error in my scripting! Dark Forces predates the first STAND-ALONE Windows operating system (Windows 95) by about 4 months. Not the Windows operating system itself.

  • @darthtripedacus1

    @darthtripedacus1

    6 ай бұрын

    As an ambassador to the IT community you are forgiven hahah nice video sir.

  • @happyspaceinvader508

    @happyspaceinvader508

    6 ай бұрын

    Ooooh the comment I was going to write. Narrow escape, mate! 😉 But your correction is a little confusing… I think you meant it’s the first that came with MSDOS bundled?

  • @troublewithweebles

    @troublewithweebles

    6 ай бұрын

    Yea, most games ran through ms dos mode off a disk drive, you would launch the write only ms dos ui and command to the file. It wasn't hard, but it was a learning curve for a middle schooler - but also made playing it feel like an achievement in and of itself😅

  • @SuperHns

    @SuperHns

    5 ай бұрын

    haha it's okay

  • @rinoz47

    @rinoz47

    5 ай бұрын

    well, thats ONE lol

  • @bilbobaggins9451
    @bilbobaggins94516 ай бұрын

    Ah yes, the REAL Rogue One.

  • @BeachTypeZaku

    @BeachTypeZaku

    Ай бұрын

    Rogue What?

  • @laurencerushton3544
    @laurencerushton35446 ай бұрын

    I fondly remember playing this, though not spending £80 on an extra 2mb of RAM to play it. When Rogue One came out I thought, 'Hold on, I stole the Death Star plans!'

  • @holisticreviews

    @holisticreviews

    3 ай бұрын

    Jan Ors > Jyn Erso

  • @KageAkarui
    @KageAkarui6 ай бұрын

    Theres a reason Kyle is called Space Chuck Norris.

  • @urseldowntownempire1930
    @urseldowntownempire19306 ай бұрын

    Somehow every 90s and early 2000s Star Wars game has a side plot involved about Crix Madine turning to the rebels

  • @zummone
    @zummone7 ай бұрын

    As far as coding goes, the Jedi Engine shares much more in common with what would later become the Build Engine than Doom's, because of the use of portals rather than bsp trees. Iirc they had an asian tech wiz on there who pretty much came to the same conclusions as Carmack's fast orthogonal sector-based rendering (perhaps inspired by doom pre-release builds) and it grew into another beast entirely, fitting it with room over room capabilities and affine texture mapped 3d model rendering, which Doom nor Build ever supported.

  • @lfroncek

    @lfroncek

    6 ай бұрын

    In the Topps Star Wars Galaxy magazine feature on this game, it says that the guys at Lucasarts were in communication with ID about creating the style of game, including the implementation of 3D assets into the engine. Pretty fascinating read if you can fine a copy. I also recall they hired architecture students to help create buildings that had some logic to them vs the standard method of the time of just making mazes that made no sense.

  • @jtjames79

    @jtjames79

    6 ай бұрын

    ​@@lfroncek No wonder there weren't any safety rails. Architects, am I right?

  • @cykeok3525

    @cykeok3525

    6 ай бұрын

    @@jtjames79They must've hired actual Star Wars architects :D

  • @riftshredder5438
    @riftshredder54387 ай бұрын

    Fun fact, many assets from this game were also used in Shadows of the Empire, like the sound effects and voice clips, you may notice that Kyle Katarn's in game voice is the same as Dash Rendar's as well as the voices of the stormtroopers

  • @alexello1189

    @alexello1189

    4 ай бұрын

    that’s just one of the quirks that makes Star Wars special. Like how obi-wans lightsaber was originally made from an old camera flash tube and modeling kit parts.

  • @Kinepho
    @Kinepho6 ай бұрын

    I am so glad someone did a video going through this fantastic game from my childhood. To hell with Disney. They threw out some amazing content when it came to movies they COULD have made. I disavow Rogue One as the story of how the Death Star plans were acquired. Kyle "Motherfu*king" Katarn did that along with Jan "I'm a badas*" Ors. I cannot wait for the Nightdive remake. They have done the work of the Gods in recent remakes.

  • @bilbobaggins9451

    @bilbobaggins9451

    6 ай бұрын

    It’s a shame that we can’t get these games anymore. Disney got rid of all the cool stuff. They don’t even rerelease the games or remaster them. I’ll tolerate most of their BS if they simply remastered games like dark forces or the revenge of the sith game. Even if they remastered and rereleased the force unleashed. But they can’t even do that. Totally worthless.

  • @corq365
    @corq3657 ай бұрын

    Solid EU Starwars focus. Excited for more to come!

  • @DIEGhostfish
    @DIEGhostfish7 ай бұрын

    33:25 Fun fact this ship is SUPPOSEDLY only 160 meters long, but the interior's actually got to be at least 242 or so converting the ingame units to meters. And the Crow is only partway up the ship when it's at the absolute edge of the interior map. So the ship;'s more like 500m.

  • @padawanmage71
    @padawanmage717 ай бұрын

    IIRC, Lucasarts had already been in the advanced workings of DF before Doom even came out. Perhaps Wolfenstein was their initial inspiration? I just remember how DF was lumped in with the rest of the ‘Doom Clones’ of that time, and the developers basically saying they were already working on this game before ID’s game even came out.

  • @Nikelaos_Khristianos

    @Nikelaos_Khristianos

    6 ай бұрын

    Plus, Dark Forces 2 was the first game to actually have lightsaber combat. It also did a really good job making Dark Forces feel like its own thing.

  • @user-ww9yw4zi8m
    @user-ww9yw4zi8m6 ай бұрын

    Games that confused,make you mad and rage quit and throw up, ahhh the good old days :)

  • @Dram1984
    @Dram19846 ай бұрын

    It usually takes me about a week to finish these long retrospectives. I listen as I fall asleep and then just start the next night at the last part I remember.

  • @BeAltyrnative
    @BeAltyrnative7 ай бұрын

    I had access to this game on the mac when i was a kid in the 90's and STRONGLY influenced my love and appreciation for star wars games and lore. I love this game and as a kid it was something very special for me. glad to see younger generations able to enjoy it and see it the way I did.

  • @andreichira7518

    @andreichira7518

    6 ай бұрын

    Same here. Once I played this game, I went from being a Han Solo fan to a die-hard Kyle Katarn fan. His journey through the EU into becoming the new Master of Combat Arts in Luke's Jedi Temple was icing on the cake and a fine end to an incredible original character.

  • @Dovah21
    @Dovah216 ай бұрын

    Anybody else stoked for the remaster coming next year? I'm hoping we see a similar situation with Dark Force II, because getting that game to run properly on modern PC's is an absolute nightmare. I still haven't gotten it done.

  • @R1ck_Ryder

    @R1ck_Ryder

    5 ай бұрын

    Look up Dark Forces 2 Remastered 3.0 and enjoy my friend

  • @Dovah21

    @Dovah21

    5 ай бұрын

    @@R1ck_Ryder I actually discovered that mod package between this comment and now, and I CANT GET THAT RUNNING EITHER! I actually went so far as to contact the developer behind OpenJKDF2 and even he can't help right now. I'm in a unique situation where my specific hardware configuration (I think) doesn't play with the engine and he has to do new development.

  • @R1ck_Ryder

    @R1ck_Ryder

    5 ай бұрын

    @Dovah21 do you have discord? I had some issues at first as well

  • @R1ck_Ryder

    @R1ck_Ryder

    5 ай бұрын

    @Dovah21 they way I did it was buying the game on GOG, clicking on its exe in the Browse Files option, then the game will say your missing Direct Play. After that the game should launch and then you can commence with the Remastered mod installation

  • @R1ck_Ryder

    @R1ck_Ryder

    5 ай бұрын

    @@Dovah21 you could also search for VC++ all in one dow loader since the game mat have some old runtime you need to use

  • @NeurovisionGorn
    @NeurovisionGorn7 ай бұрын

    In a year I bet this channel has grown substantially, lord knows it deserves it

  • @evprince

    @evprince

    7 ай бұрын

    Thank you sir 🙏

  • @saschaberger3212
    @saschaberger32128 ай бұрын

    Mr. Prince. I really don't understand why your channel has such a small subscriber amount. Your videos are really good. May the algorithm fairy find your channel soon

  • @evprince

    @evprince

    8 ай бұрын

    🙏

  • @TheChronozoan

    @TheChronozoan

    8 ай бұрын

    We'll get there. Evan is already successful, the world just hasn't caught up to him yet. We got in on the ground floor.

  • @Valdorian

    @Valdorian

    7 ай бұрын

    the algorithm got me here, i hope many more. Awesome work, keep it up and it will eventually become big if you keep this production quality!

  • @doomguyplays

    @doomguyplays

    7 ай бұрын

    Because he still has few videos. But we’ve found him, so that counts!

  • @Mephilis78

    @Mephilis78

    7 ай бұрын

    Because uploading a video to KZread doesn't telepathically last ever user on the site know a video has been uploaded.

  • @josiahbahuaud2294
    @josiahbahuaud2294Ай бұрын

    21:27 X-Wing, TIE Fighter, and X-Wing vs TIE Fighter had dynamic music also. 😊

  • @CSestp
    @CSestp7 ай бұрын

    You should do a retrospective on Dark Forces 2. I played and beat DF as a young kid, when i saw DF's 2 in the store i freaked. The whole jedi thing hit me blind, so i doubly freaked.

  • @evprince

    @evprince

    7 ай бұрын

    Next month!

  • @CSestp

    @CSestp

    7 ай бұрын

    @@evprince heck yea, also surprisingly TIE fighter has a very good, and lore packed story. Look forward to more of your work.

  • @Paul_McSeol
    @Paul_McSeol8 ай бұрын

    Loved this series ever since it first came out. And while I do think that Rogue One is the best of the Disney Star Wars projects (and Andor) there is something classic about this take on the Death Star plans and what came after. Yeah, the Legends timeline rules.

  • @nonplayercharacter596

    @nonplayercharacter596

    6 ай бұрын

    Calling it legends is slander. Instead you should refer to Canon as fanfic.

  • @legotimefuntime5438

    @legotimefuntime5438

    6 ай бұрын

    Not legends. The true Legendary canon.

  • @andreichira7518

    @andreichira7518

    6 ай бұрын

    When Rogue One was announced and we saw Cassian Andor for the first time, I was hoping we'd be getting an on-screen version of Kyle Katarn. While Cassian is no Katarn, there's glimpses of a similar sort of character in him. I wish they'd kept this in, though, because Kyle's story was amazing.

  • @MonsieurJimjams

    @MonsieurJimjams

    6 ай бұрын

    @@andreichira7518 I really much prefer this Dark Forces game and the radio adaptation of Star Wars over Rogue One. Honestly feel like I'm the only person in the world who thinks that film is just awful, all style and no substance.

  • @sothatsdevintart2562

    @sothatsdevintart2562

    6 ай бұрын

    @@MonsieurJimjamsRouge One’s first two acts are not my cup of tea, but the finale is amazing and Andor blows everything else post 1980 out of the water.

  • @straytraveler
    @straytraveler6 ай бұрын

    Funny story. I found and started playing Dark Forces in 1996 on PC. I was playing this game when my future wife called me for the first time. I didn't pause the game. :) Twenty six years later, that wonderful woman is still with me and went to see all the Prequels at midnight and all of the Sequels. This game started a new life for me. :)

  • @evprince

    @evprince

    6 ай бұрын

    Wholesome

  • @66522780

    @66522780

    6 ай бұрын

    The force was with you that night! 😂 Congratulations 👍

  • @user-nl4ch1pz4x
    @user-nl4ch1pz4x5 ай бұрын

    I still remember the first time I saw Dark Forces, it was the demo playing on a computer in Circuit City. Stopped me in my tracks. The game became my life until Goldeneye was released a few years later. My best friend and I made custom levels with Dark Forge and uploaded them to our GeoCities Dark Forces webpage. I can still find it with WayBackMachine. It was the early days of the internet and an absolute hell of a time. I'm 40 years old and can still vividly remember the excitement this game made me feel almost 30 years ago. The last time I saw some of the levels in this video was when I was playing the game in-period. Brings back lots of emotions and childhood memories. I still have the original box with its complete packaging and Mac CD-ROM. Can't wait to play the remaster. Thanks for the video.

  • @holisticreviews
    @holisticreviews3 ай бұрын

    41:14 “One thing’s for sure: they’ll never see me coming.” Chapter IV: They See Me Coming

  • @evprince

    @evprince

    3 ай бұрын

    They saw me coming.

  • @elwyn5150
    @elwyn51506 ай бұрын

    16:05 Did you realize there's a map? One of the Easter Eggs on one level was seeing the head of Max from the Steve Purcell comics and then-LucasArts game "Sam & Max".

  • @airborneace
    @airborneace6 ай бұрын

    It's sad to see how much love, quality and effort was put into old Star Wars content compared to the endless trash Disney farts out today

  • @bilbobaggins9451

    @bilbobaggins9451

    6 ай бұрын

    Star Wars entered the absolute worst timeline in 2012

  • @NerdtotheThirdPower
    @NerdtotheThirdPower6 ай бұрын

    "The music is dynamic, I can't think of another game that did it." That would be the IMUSE music system, first used in the original release of X-Wing in 1992. It was sadly not reused for the more popular CD-Rom release.

  • @GundamFireStorm
    @GundamFireStorm6 ай бұрын

    You Take that back! The Dark Forces Audiodrama is a Masterpeice! XD

  • @darthdemented

    @darthdemented

    4 ай бұрын

    I have both on my audible!

  • @marricktryathia3464
    @marricktryathia34646 ай бұрын

    This game is not older than windows. I think Windows 3.1 was out when this game was released. DOS was the operating system that Windows ran on top of until Windows XP.

  • @DIEGhostfish
    @DIEGhostfish7 ай бұрын

    1:37 this is unlikely, development started a bit before Doom released or MAYBE slightly after. Officially it was more inspired by Wolfenstein but when Doom came out the project scope expanded.

  • @HansAlRachid
    @HansAlRachid4 ай бұрын

    Can't wait for another excuse to replay this game again, that Nightdive remaster will more than suffice - this game is one of the best shooters of its era and was one of the first games I remember really digging into back in the day. Was pretty damn hard to figure out without a booklet and without the ability to understand English back then.

  • @PIMPTD
    @PIMPTD4 ай бұрын

    I played this game few years ago after being huge fan of Jedi outcast. This game held up surprisingly well and only remember that final boss kicking my ass forever. Excited to eventually try the remastered and play this again.

  • @nicmendoza2507
    @nicmendoza25072 ай бұрын

    WOW! My new favorite KZread channel just off one video. Truly fantastic content. I love your genuine enthusiasm for the experience, as well as your ability to review it while also embodying the character and story as the game progresses. It was a lot of fun reliving this game with you. Cheers

  • @evprince

    @evprince

    2 ай бұрын

    Welcome aboard!

  • @patroche1266
    @patroche12663 ай бұрын

    "The puzzles/navigation was not that hard." Bro, I first played this when I was 11. I spent a YEAR replaying the first 3 levels because I could NOT beat that sewer level. Any hint as to what that center switch did or what I was supposed to do in the doors it opened probably would have got me through but, ugh that level frustrated and terrified me. I never figured it out and I saw dianoga's popping out at me in pitch darkness as my nightmares! I finally got some cheat codes online once we got dial-up and skipped that level to continue on and beat each subsequent level until the prison level, also never figured that one out. I was probably 32 by the time I showed my kids and revisited this game to finally figure out where to go and what to do on each level. Playing this game as a kid in 1996 is kind of akin to the first time my kids tried Oculus Quest. It truly was revolutionary to me, and I also experienced DOOM as a 10 year old! Oh, 90's computing. PC gaming on shareware and CD ROM really was a secluded experience; NO HELP or guidance with lot of terrifying things trying to kill such a young kid hahah

  • @CptJistuce
    @CptJistuce6 ай бұрын

    Oh man, I spent so much time playing this on my 486 back in the day. There's a lot of wonderful touches, but the one I remember best is a minor detail: If you punch a droid, you take 1 point of damage. Because you just busted your knuckles on that darn robot's shiny metal face.

  • @astrosquirrel5038
    @astrosquirrel50388 ай бұрын

    Really enjoying this series. Keep up the amazing work!

  • @lancebaylis3169
    @lancebaylis31696 ай бұрын

    Excellent retrospective. I love how you juxtapose modern game footage with the classic game. Dark Forces is a game I remember fondly from when I was 12 years old. Star Wars videogames used to be so immersive. They were really trying to recapture the Cinematic experience. This game came out before even the special editions of the movies hit theaters, but it was all a part of the lead up to seeing Star Wars in theaters again after 20 years. I think Star Wars games really benefited from being made "in-house" by Lucasfilm. The people behind the games cared about the lore, because they weren't just programmers for hire. They really were invested in it.

  • @TheZubr1k
    @TheZubr1k6 ай бұрын

    Great late night find to watch. KZread algo delivers.

  • @ThEShApeOfACiRcLE
    @ThEShApeOfACiRcLE7 ай бұрын

    This was one of the first game ive ever played with my dad. i still replay it at least once a year

  • @lordosis5650
    @lordosis56505 ай бұрын

    As a kid, I found the game at goodwill. I didn't know anything about computers, but I got the game running. The sound never worked. I'd play the first two levels so much, but the dark sewer level and sewer monsters scared me so much, that I just stuck to those first two levels until I got much older. Never got to finish it, so I'm excited for the night dive remaster to finally give it the full attention it deserves.

  • @TheFoxEssence
    @TheFoxEssence3 ай бұрын

    You’re one of my new favourite channels! Thank you so much for this!

  • @HallwayMusic91
    @HallwayMusic913 ай бұрын

    This game is still my all time favorite and my first time I learned about Kyle Katarn. My dad originally owned this game on the Macintosh but it was only a 3 level demo disc, so the PS1 version was the only version in which I can play the game in its entirety. I still like to go back to it every now and then.

  • @TheRealHoloNet
    @TheRealHoloNet7 ай бұрын

    What an amazing retrospective! Love it! Subscribed!

  • @connorharrison
    @connorharrison7 ай бұрын

    Fantastic coverage and extensive assessment of one of my favorite games when I was growing up

  • @evprince

    @evprince

    7 ай бұрын

    2 is coming soon!

  • @JarrodSchilling
    @JarrodSchilling6 ай бұрын

    One of the many games I remember playing as a kid and wish they fully remade on today's best gaming engines. X-Wing Vs Tie Fighter would definitely be on that list as well. Great job with this video, thanks for making it! Brings back soooooo many memories.

  • @Niskirin

    @Niskirin

    6 ай бұрын

    I'd prefer the original Tie Fighter, I always found that game to be more attractive than the vs title.

  • @Aquatarkus96
    @Aquatarkus967 ай бұрын

    Wasn't Windows originally released in 1985?

  • @TabbyTimeOut

    @TabbyTimeOut

    4 ай бұрын

    It was little more than a DOS shell until Windows 95. The first REAL windows OS relesed was Windows NT in 1993. But I wouldn't' classify that as a consumer gaming system.

  • @MutantHeadcrab
    @MutantHeadcrab6 ай бұрын

    This was one of the first PC games I ever owned. Learned how to make boot disks so I could go straight to the game. Ah, memories.

  • @ludekz.773
    @ludekz.7737 ай бұрын

    Very well done video! You deserve more notoriety

  • @ectogambit
    @ectogambit6 ай бұрын

    I liked how the medal you got at the end was one of the same ones from X-Wing. The "Star of Alderaan" if i remember.

  • @RockRedGenesis
    @RockRedGenesis6 ай бұрын

    One of my all time favorite SW games, this is the canon to me. Kyle got the Death Star plans, not Jen Erso. I can't wait for the Nightdive Remaster, if just to play it with quality of life additions. I hope that Nightdive eventually work on remastering Dark Forces 2 and Mysteries of the Sith and eventually bring them to modern consoles

  • @ectogambit
    @ectogambit6 ай бұрын

    Yeah. That detention level was hell in 1995. I saw the little door but took a while for me to click that uou had to "Die Hard" your way through

  • @frapels
    @frapels5 ай бұрын

    Ah man, this game was something. I played it back in the day. Couldn’t last longer than an hour because I got motion sickness every time. But man, did I love it. I must have played that Death Star level a hundred times at least. There’s were all these fun hidden sections that you could find by running along each wall and spamming the action key until something happened. Good times.

  • @johndavis3999
    @johndavis39996 ай бұрын

    I enjoy Kyle's voice actor in this, I actually find him very fitting. He really does sound like a storm trooper

  • @sonicguyver7445
    @sonicguyver74456 ай бұрын

    Wow, what a great cover of this old game. Never got to play it myself but I can really hear how much fun you are having with it. Love the running narrative you have, really makes watching it more fun.

  • @Bearbytez
    @Bearbytez6 ай бұрын

    I'll never forget being a kid in my dad's computer repair shop and seeing this game on the shelf. Obsessing over it. But not being allowed to play it because they only had the one copy for sale. I finally played 5 or 6 years later on the ps1 and was still blown away like it was release day. So much so that it never even occurred to me until JUST NOW nearly 23 years later that it WAS a Doom clone.

  • @ronnical2489
    @ronnical24896 ай бұрын

    Glad I found this channel, awesome videos! I am hyped for the other entries in the dark forces/jedi knight franchise. Jedi Outcast and Academy are so amazing because they really let you feel what having a lightsaber is all about, especially with dismemberment turned on

  • @Timberjac
    @Timberjac6 ай бұрын

    Considering I played all the games before it and the ones after LucasArts, I have to say that this one, along with the X-Wing/TIE Fighter, broke the mold. Clint Bajakian was already an old acquaintance for those of us who had bought a few games. For example, apart from the X-Wing and TIE, his work on Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis is also great. It's fantastic how he modifies Williams' music a little bit to create wonders. For some reason, the part I got most excited about in this game is when you go to the prison to free Crix Madine and that part of the music plays, the return of the Jedi, when the rebel fleet has come out of hyperspace and the different wings start reporting on its status.

  • @bradlauk1419
    @bradlauk14196 ай бұрын

    Those classic Lucasarts midi tunes at 9:00 take me back man.

  • @DomenicVermillion
    @DomenicVermillion5 ай бұрын

    Excellent video, such nostalgia. Wishing your channel much success!

  • @darthsquidious5956
    @darthsquidious59568 ай бұрын

    Another awesome vid, man!

  • @sportosp-0158
    @sportosp-01584 ай бұрын

    This was an excellent play-through and commentary. Great watch! Thanks

  • @AceParty
    @AceParty7 ай бұрын

    Very nice review. I remember being so excited when I was a kid for this game. The night dive remaster should be great, night dive is an amazing studio that release amazing modern remaster of all these legacy games.

  • @kingbeef66
    @kingbeef666 ай бұрын

    The Dark Troopers in this game was more powerful and menacing. They were really nerfed down on The Mandalorian, since the ones in the game are suppose to be resistant to lightsabers since they’re made of Phrik.

  • @VespoLiveGaming
    @VespoLiveGaming6 ай бұрын

    If the sequel trilogy were written competently, Finn's character arc would have mirrored Kyle Katarn's...

  • @Rschr101

    @Rschr101

    6 ай бұрын

    Would have made more sense for sure. But nah let's have him die at the end, and lets kill all the heroes we grew up with. Barf

  • @Armand-ue7om
    @Armand-ue7om6 ай бұрын

    I remember this being included as a sample game (just the first mission) bundled with the soundcard and speakers set of Sound-Blaster back in those days....

  • @TabbyTimeOut
    @TabbyTimeOut4 ай бұрын

    The prison on the ice planet took me forever to figure out. Stupid elevator.

  • @digitolwonder
    @digitolwonder2 ай бұрын

    Dark Forces = JaN ORS Rogue One = JyN eRSO Always felt like that was a nice nod. Great video!

  • @LaukkuPaukku
    @LaukkuPaukku4 ай бұрын

    46:30 Except for the lone brown-clothed Imperial officer idling in the hangar, the true final boss of the game.

  • @ryanjourney9607
    @ryanjourney96076 ай бұрын

    This takes me back to when I was 13 years old and got this for my birthday. It was such a great game. Although I absolutely hated the sewer level. The music really made the game and got you hyped up.

  • @finnishmetalfreak
    @finnishmetalfreak6 ай бұрын

    Rogue One: takes an entire army to steal Death Star plans Kyle Katarn: hold my corellian ale

  • @libman2006
    @libman20066 ай бұрын

    It wasn't released before windows os. Windows 1.0 came out in November 1985

  • @Edward135i
    @Edward135i7 ай бұрын

    I remember playing this on my dads computer on Dos when I was like 6 in the 90s. It was the only thing I knew how to launch on Dos, my dad got tired of launching it for me so he showed me how to use Dos...at age 6

  • @johnellis3383
    @johnellis33836 ай бұрын

    Great video! Dark Forces was such an amazing game when it came out. The graphics, sound and feel were so far above other FPS or "Doom clone" games at the time. Absolute classic!

  • @B-A-L

    @B-A-L

    6 ай бұрын

    It also had a proper story that made you actually feel you are doing something instead of just completing levels.

  • @elmartillo7931
    @elmartillo79316 ай бұрын

    I was 24 when dark forces came out, and I played it on an IBM aptiva. I just remember at the time it looked amazing

  • @PhantomSturm
    @PhantomSturm6 ай бұрын

    This was the game with the anti-Ewok graffiti easter eggs, iirc.

  • @shieldagent001
    @shieldagent0016 ай бұрын

    29:00 there is a room you need to jump throw a window where one imperial officer has the red key. Inside there is a control panel that turns a large fan on so you dont need the gas mask

  • @evprince

    @evprince

    6 ай бұрын

    Oh wow I did my even know that

  • @shieldagent001

    @shieldagent001

    6 ай бұрын

    Now you know and your welcome

  • @dheisey1014
    @dheisey10146 ай бұрын

    Sweetie, sweetie, sweetie. Just because games were released for dos doesn’t mean there was no windows. Windows 95 was appropriately released in 1995, and it wasn’t the first windows os by a bit of a walk. Gaming on windows was held back for a long time. Windows had a shut down option for restart into dos. Keep in mind that these operating systems were kinda written on top of dos. Like command line wasn’t there it was dos prompt.

  • @thewewguy8t88
    @thewewguy8t885 ай бұрын

    You know what I just realized I think stargate may have gotten some inspiration for Anubis' s super soldier arc from the dark trooper.

  • @dairedarcy1130
    @dairedarcy11306 ай бұрын

    Real quick corrections here: Windows has been around since 1985 (though not in wide usage until the late ‘80s/early ‘90s), and Disney had nothing to do with General Grievous, George Lucas was responsible for that turd…

  • @OPproductions22
    @OPproductions226 ай бұрын

    Can’t wait to play Nightdive’s shiny new remaster of this, this year.

  • @geggy310
    @geggy3105 ай бұрын

    I'm pumped for the remaster!

  • @77philesposito
    @77philesposito5 ай бұрын

    Dude all your vids are bangers!!! Thank you for making such dope Indepth reviews of what was truly one of the best parts of my childhood! Long live the old EU!! I can only imagine you've read the old EU books, I'd be very interested in watching any content you did breaking down those as well!

  • @evprince

    @evprince

    5 ай бұрын

    I've thought about it!

  • @banedon8087
    @banedon80876 ай бұрын

    I remember Dark Forces coming out (have got a big box version of it) and it was so weird to read magazine articles saying that it "wasn't very Star Wars" - when it very much was. Loved the game, played it many, many times over the years. One thing: The PS1 version of this (bought by my brother in law) was one of the few game who's fisheye effect & frame rate made me physically ill.

  • @dandy-man-can
    @dandy-man-can6 ай бұрын

    Excellent, thank you.

  • @scooperfield
    @scooperfield6 ай бұрын

    Before DF, dynamic music was in X-Wing (1993) and Tie Fighter (1994), both by Licasarts

  • @user-yv8zl1pu5b
    @user-yv8zl1pu5b6 ай бұрын

    The Howie Long scream (from broken arrow movie) when falling off

  • @Californology
    @Californology6 ай бұрын

    Great video. I was 20 when this came out and loved playing this. Correction though, Win95 was out when the game dropped but the DF had to be launched from the DOS prompt. I had to install a CD ROM to play this.

  • @dudujencarelli
    @dudujencarelli7 ай бұрын

    It's not older than Windows. Early versions existed during the 1980s and early 90s. Dark Forces is only older than Windows 95.

  • @evprince

    @evprince

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah realized that post video release haha

  • @dudujencarelli

    @dudujencarelli

    7 ай бұрын

    @@evprince Also, regarding the music commentary at the end. At the time (1995), Star Wars games mostly didn't really play the classic John Williams scores. Other than the 16-bit SNES renditions on the Super Star Wars trilogy, that is. CD-ROM was still new technology at the time, and most home computers didn't have advanced sound cards. Since games were made with DOS in mind, LucasArts created original music through its proprietary iMUSE technology. Both X-Wing and TIE Fighter were also comprised of mostly original music. The first SW game to fully embrace the John Williams movie score was Rebel Assault.

  • @raycavazos8927
    @raycavazos89276 ай бұрын

    The Imperial Port planet of Ramsay's Head. Where the troopers are horrendously foul tempered and flagrantly foul mouthed with a particular penchant for calling Mr Katarn a "Donut" and a "Donkey."

  • @BennPriceVStheWorld
    @BennPriceVStheWorld6 ай бұрын

    Great video and fantastic to see Dark Forces getting some love. Gotta do Dark Forces 2 : Jedi Knight next though, surely ! Kyle Katarn is almost more Star Wars to me than Luke and Co. Spent huge chunks of my youth playing all of these games and I hold them very dearly.

  • @Rschr101

    @Rschr101

    6 ай бұрын

    Dark Forces 2 is GOAT

  • @lfroncek
    @lfroncek6 ай бұрын

    To get the authentic experience, you should shrink the viewing window to about 25% of the screen size. That's how we did it on our old 486s with 8 megs of ram.

  • @billxciii
    @billxciii6 ай бұрын

    Nice video... I have a few comments. 1) I seem to recall being able to shoot the mines with one (or maybe more?) of the guns. 2) You didn't mention the secondary fire modes for the weapons... I believe that was a first for an FPS. 3) This was, the first FPS to have hand grenades (in the form of the thermal detonators)... you can make life much easier by using the secondary fire mode to bounce them off of walls to kill enemies without exposing yourself to them, that was mind blowing back then. 4) X-Wing and TIE Fighter also had a dynamic music system (iMuse, IIRC) before Dark Forces came out (though some of the music is certainly borrowed from the movies). 5) The 3d ships in levels were amazing at the time and actually helped set me on my path to my current job as a creative director. Even though you can't get inside it, the Moldy Crow and 3d TIE fighters also added a lot to the immersion. I actually brought this up with the lead engineer of a later game (Ghost Recon) because people were asking for helicopter insertions for the 2nd expansion of that game (Island Thunder) and the team determined it was technically infeasible with Ghost Recon's game engine. I mentioned the Moldy Crow in Dark Forces, told him to put some ropes on the ground and show a helicopter flying away. His response was, "We can do that." They did, and it seemed to please a lot of the people who were requesting that feature. One of my favorite techniques in game design is when you can't technically do/show something that would be really cool, then imply it... and just maybe you'll trick people's subconscious minds into thinking that you did! Ironically, things have come full circle, and now I have had a couple people working for me that used to work for Lucasfilm before it was bought by Disney, and one of them used to report directly to George Lucas! 😅

  • @derekthedullard
    @derekthedullard6 ай бұрын

    This was one of the first games i played when i was about 9 or 10…along with a star wars flight sim called Star Wars X-Wing which came on 8 floppy disks. I have very very fond memories of the dark forces series of games. ❤❤

  • @RyanKarolak
    @RyanKarolak6 ай бұрын

    The game didn’t pre-date Windows. Windows often wasn’t preferred for games until Windows 95. I love this game though. I played Dark Forces a lot as a kid and even made a few maps.

  • @RyanKarolak

    @RyanKarolak

    6 ай бұрын

    This video brought back a lot of nostalgia. I was seven when this came out and it felt amazing at the time. I think it still holds up pretty well, especially if you use modern controls.

  • @B-A-L
    @B-A-L6 ай бұрын

    This was one of my favourite game of the '90s and I still play it on my tablet Dos emulator! It's long overdue for a total remake the way System Shock is being done.

  • @KylePhantomK94
    @KylePhantomK948 ай бұрын

    51:28 You just earned yourself a sub.

  • @evprince

    @evprince

    8 ай бұрын

    More SW coming too

  • @daveruda
    @daveruda6 ай бұрын

    Dude you have a headlight in this game as well. Suprisingly ive seen more videos where this wasnt known by the players.

  • @johngreenfield
    @johngreenfield6 ай бұрын

    Great video, it brought back a lot of memories. I'll have to get the force engine installed and give it another go for old times sake. I'd love to see you cover it's sequel Jedi Knight in the future

  • @Hanneth
    @Hanneth6 ай бұрын

    Dark Forces engine was very different from Wolfenstein. Also Wolfenstein wasn't the first game to use the grid map with ray casting method of rendering. There were at least 2 engines that had full released source code at the time as well as other games that used the same method. Wolfenstein just brought the engine, graphics and sound together to make something special and fun. Dark Force's engine was more like Doom, and may have been partially inspired by John Carmack and Michael Abrash work. Carmack back then was talking about what he was working on, and how he was trying to solve problems. His ramblings later were made more organized and I think is what he started putting into the .plan files. Michael Abrash was known for his writings about optimizations and Carmack credited him as one of the main inspirations for many of his ideas. Ironically, many games are going back to ray casting, or the term that the 3d rendering community has used for a long time, path tracing. Nvidia incorrectly calls it ray tracing. Ray tracing is about casting light from a source where path tracing it about casting rays from the camera tracing back to light sources. Both have their advantages, disadvantages and problems. Though just about everyone using path tracing now because it is so much faster and can be made to look, good enough.

  • @MaliciousMallard
    @MaliciousMallard8 ай бұрын

    Great video! I hope you do the other games in the series :) One small nitpick: Vader's ship the Executor is pronounced as the legal term, like it is the "executor of Vader's will", not like executioner. Again: small nitpick :P I did legitimately enjoy your video though!

  • @evprince

    @evprince

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Trust me more jedi games are coming.

  • @OfficialRedTeamReview
    @OfficialRedTeamReview7 ай бұрын

    I've never played this game but am familiar with the lore. I love how a lot of it does tie into Rogue Squadron. It's a shame, as the series continued, they didn't have as many original missions in the sequels as they did in the first RS game that tie to the EU.

  • @cykeok3525

    @cykeok3525

    6 ай бұрын

    It was like the LucasArts games had their own corner of continuity within the EU to play with, with some overlaps with the larger EU and the movies of course. Felt really cool. One of the best renditions of post-RotJ continuity Luke that I remember was in Jedi Outcast, where the player (as Kyle) actually gets to fight alongside Luke. He'll wipe out all the Force-using, lightsaber-wielding Imperial Reborn with or without your help. Then (this part in a cutscene), the big bad of that game clashes with Luke for a moment, realizes he's outmatched, and has to pull down the ceiling/floor above to slow down Luke, while he legs it to his ship to escape.

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