Best game ever made. Thousands of hours playing it.

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

It is excellent, I agree!

O.M.G. i remember playing this game in the 80's and it drove my brother nuts because he kept saying "where are the plastic soldiers!?" And i kept telling him, Here you dumbkopf! (The troop tiles). Tried teaching him the rules and he quit after 10 minutes. Excellent video! Lots of great memories!

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad it brought back some fun memories for you!

I'm divorced and I never see my son. This game helps punctuate the dreariness.

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry to hear of your sad situation. Hopefully you can find a buddy or two to play a great game like Squad Leader with to take your mind off things...

One of THE best games ever made.

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

I agree! And I approve your comment! :)

My god, I remember buying this from a shop in Leicester back in the early 80's It made sense immediately. small units are all about leadership, morale, and support weapons. Call of Duty games decades later missed this entirely.

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I agree! And although I'm not sure how to model that in a first person shooter, it would be neat if someone figured out how to do it!

@eriksaari4430

Жыл бұрын

cod isnt meant to be realistical. try arma or something

@alexisXcore93

Жыл бұрын

You are judging a fish by its ability to climb a tree. But if you want a platoon level shooter try squad.

@Thomas-dw1nb

8 ай бұрын

​​@@LegendaryTacticsGearbox/Ubisoft attempted to with Brothers in Arms.

wow, a look back at an excellent game I loved. Many hours spent in this game.

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

It is an excellent game!

I have played this game many times, and yes after scenario 2 the difficulty factor goes up exponentially. You did a great job explaining the basic outline, and rules. At the tactical level there is no better Avalon Hill game

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for saying so, and for watching!

@neilwilson5785

Жыл бұрын

The modular learning is great though. I got it as a 19 year old quite quickly.

@Grandtank1999

4 ай бұрын

Is it? I never played further than The Guard's Counter Attack (decided to jump straight to ASL Starter Kit) I cant imagine it would be too complex.

My brother my favorite game in the early 80s. Enjoyed playing it with my cousin. Even made our own scenarios. Played solitaire when I was in the military.

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

That's great! Lots of great memories there! What was your favorite scenario?

@williebarreto3248

Жыл бұрын

Beleive or not I brought iron cross before squad leader. Had no mentors did not know any better. Once I had funds I brought squad leader. I enjoyed all the scenarios and the made up some of my own based on current events such as Grenada war. I currently still working for the military over 40 years, 26 active the rest contractor. Provide support capacity from Grenada to Iraqi war. Currently supporting central and South America. Was thinking about even creating a game on the potential conflict in Puerto Rico. This would be complex as there are many different type of opponents such as gangs in the villages, some currupt police forces, cartels from within or outside, outside influences such China, Venezuela, Cuba, Russia and Nicuagua. Also an element of ISIS, they do exist in the region of the world. As for US forces from different services, special ops from Southern Command, the Special Security forces Bat (SFAB) this is a basically new units considered it a 800 man A-team, they are not spec ops but more training and advisement at the support level. Aviation units scattered throughout the region. Allies are Chile, Guatemala, Brazil. Army South will have overall command since this is their region. Forces will be deployed from Guantanamo Bay, Florida, Cuba, St Martin and Haiti and Jamaica. That is just some of my thoughts, politics and economics challenges has to be factor in.

I enjoyed the original Squad Leader but found that each subsequent module just made the rules more and more and finally too complicated, bogging things down. I never bought into ASL. Great video. Brought back great memories of playing through this scenario. Thanks!

@davidlessenberry8736

7 ай бұрын

I have played both Squad Leader and ASL. The "Crescendo of Doom" player environment (module to original Squad Leader) is much more difficult to understand than ASL. ASL is a true "sandbox" that will never involve ALL of the rules, in any scenario. If you want to play an ASL scenario, the two players can spend about five minutes before the game, clarifying the rules. Crescendo of Doom seemed to change ALL of the rules from Squad Leader and Cross of Iron, in a very unsatisfying way.

@greyone40

4 ай бұрын

My experience was similar. The ASL rules just seemed to make it a little too complex in the basic operation. Someone else commented that they use a sort of hybrid of the systems, which might be a good idea. I have none of my copies of all these modules, so probably will never play this again. Great memories, and this was a good video to introduce people to it.

I still love this old game; and with the expansion(s) that fix the armor rules it is still vastly superior to "Advanced" Squad Leader that adds volumes of rules with no discernable gain in "realism" yet adds hours to gameplay.

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I could never quite get up to exploring advanced squad leader. Squad leader seems to have the best balance between realism and playability.

@garyfortenberry5829

Жыл бұрын

ASL games take no longer to play than SL. ASL is the better game, by far. I’ve played both since they each were released. Neither are realistic. ASL is much more playable, without all the gotcha rules from SL.

@GrumblingGrognard

Жыл бұрын

@@garyfortenberry5829 "ASL is much more playable, without all the gotcha rules from SL." Complete opposite of my experience and I too have played both and sold off my ASL right before MMP reprinted them all. YMMV but I don't see how anyone could buy this when you need only look at the 3-ring binders for rules you need with ASL. Seriously. :)

@garyfortenberry5829

Жыл бұрын

@@GrumblingGrognard Just the way defensive fire alone works now makes the change worth it. Machine Guns feel much better in use. Snipers work better. Vehicles and Gun rules have been improved. OBA could still use some work, but it’s playable. I took exception to your statement that ASL adds hours to gameplay. To say that is an exaggeration is a huge understatement. ASL takes no longer to play than SL. In fact, length of time needed for either is much more dependent on speed of play of participants than the systems in question. Most of the ASL rules are for specific situations and not used in every situation. The SL rules and gamettes are poorly cobbled together and get increasingly unplayable as one progresses through them. ASL took that mess and cleaned it up turning the system into a very playable, smoothly running game. As they say, don’t judge a book…err, binder…by its cover. P.S. It’s been my overwhelming experience that those so vehemently opposed to ASL in favor of SL fall into two categories: those who tried to learn it alone without reaching out or those who resent the way AH dropped SL for ASL. In the first case, it is so much better to have someone teach you the game than to try it solo. There is no cure for the second case.

@GrumblingGrognard

Жыл бұрын

@@garyfortenberry5829 "ASL takes no longer to play than SL." This is simply not true. Perhaps you feel that way, and perhaps you can play it quickly; but this is silly. I mean seriously: You are saying that the additional hundreds of pages of rules (heck...you and I both know it is more likely over a thousand pages with all of the expansions!) and the resulting rules add no additional playing time whatsoever. ...yeah, right and ASL is the first/only game in history to pull that off, right?

懐かしいです。４０年前の、あの日本の暑い日々に、何度もトラクター工場に突撃しました！

SL is a great game, played the hell out of it when I was a teen. Problem is no one really plays it anymore. It's a relic/collector game these days. People like to give ASL a hard time for being "too hard" (it's not), but there are literally thousands of documented games played every month. Very easy to still find opponents, 40 years after initial release.

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

Are those documented ASL games then? Or SL? I know a lot of ASL was straightforward and intuitive if you knew the SL system, but, man, that is a long rulebook!

@jobu88

10 ай бұрын

Check out the Squad Leader Academy. They have a very active group that plays it using the Vassal software interface. Very close to the feel of the real thing.

Absolutely awesome tutorial. We played this game the day it was released and even used the rules to invade the Vault of the Drow :)

@LegendaryTactics

3 ай бұрын

Thank you for saying so! Sounds like you had a bunch of great memories!

What a great video! Spents hundreds of hours playing this game. Still have it in the original box from the 80s plus a expansion or two. Need to dig out and play with my kids. Nothing better then getting a KIA. Best board game ever! Thanks again!

@LegendaryTactics

6 ай бұрын

You're welcome! Thank you for the kind comment, and for watching!

Many hours and nights spent playing "The guards counterattack" What a fun game this was for me to play. I think I picked this up my Freshman year in HS. Some of the most fun I had was dreaming about the promised expansions-what they would be and more importantly when? I really liked this game but enjoyed ASL so much more. The Idea that if a unit of 10 men failed 2 morale checks, they were dead always seems a little severe. The idea of half squads and to reduce a units base moral if it failed morale checks by more than a certain number was more realistic to me. ASL never seemed like "Tobruk" if anyone knows what I mean by that. All my ASL is in storage Cant decide if I should part with it on eBay or dust it off, set it up

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

I would dust it off and set it up before you sell it - there might be some more fun and memories in that paper and cardboard yet, and you wouldn't want to miss out on it!

@havable

Жыл бұрын

They're not dead when they fail two morale checks. They dissipate. Run for the hills. Scatter.

@S-A-Q

Жыл бұрын

Set it up and give it a go. There may yet be more good memories to be made. You’ve got nothing to lose.

@chrisperrien7055

Жыл бұрын

Part with it to some fool and buy SL again and Cross of Iron , LOL

@nowthisnamestaken

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisperrien7055 Cross of Iron. I ordered that one by mail, was on the early list. Anyone who was on the early list had the pleasure of having all the Soviet armor counters being upside down. Sucked. really sucked. I bought another copy a year later and got another reverse set.. I liked the Black SS counters...and the Tigers

Picked up a copy of Squad Leader in NM condition for $5 at a yard sale. Outer box has suffered from time but the internal components are hardly used - most of the components unpunched. Thanks for this excellent intro! The rulebook is quite dense with details which interrelate and interact with each other. This video was very helpful to watch before my first foray into Squad Leader.

@chrisperrien7055

7 ай бұрын

To find an opponent( a second person). You have to find some prospect (s) who is interested in such history and has the "free time" to do so and is local to you.* The "programmed instructions" of the game really work for understanding the rules and towards fighting more advanced battles i.e. (the next scenario), . But you have to find somebody (or bodies;) wanting to make a go of it with . * I suggest doing volunteer work around local old folk's/retirement homes and ask some of the smarter people there. That is my best guess to look for Squad Leader opponents currently and also locally .

Well made introduction to the Squad Leader basic rules. This is an amazing video. It's been decades since I've played Squad Leader, yet I recognized a few rules points you mentioned that must be addenda to the 1st edition. Holy cow I obsessed over those rules when I was young. 🙂

There’s something to be said for the tactile immersion and endless possibilities SL and its evolution brought to the war game experience. Despite its flaws, I still find this game “system” my go to escape from the digital age.

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

It is a really neat game, and I hope it continues to be played well into the future

I loved it through G.I. Anvil of Victory. We lobbied Avalon Hills for a summarized version of the rules, but they were gung ho to bring us ASL. :-(

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

Well, the system really needed cleaning up and reorganizing at that point... I don't blame them entirely, but I understand how frustrating it must have been

Thanks for posting 🎉. Wonderful a day it was for me buying the game way back in 1977 😄😄

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

Awesome!!

Many many thanks for explaining machine gun penetration!

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

Anytime!

Absolutley love this video. Great refresher.

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

Great video (so far) and looking forward to watching when I have a moment to really learn! Most Squad Leader content on KZread is ASL so I appreciate the old school love. Confession: I play all scenarios, SL or ASL, with SL rules. Thanks for posting!

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, there isn't much on SL, but we're looking to remedy that!

@christophersivley5289

Жыл бұрын

I started playing SL in 1979 and have collected the expansion modules plus the ASL mods as well but like you I use the SL rules because the rules for ASL are just to complicated and bog down the game to much! I do use some of the new rules for certain things that the old rules do not have or has a better rule/modifier! Overall I rank SL as the best small unit tactic game there is or will be!

Awesome video. Where was it back in the '80s when I was trying to learn the rules? It's still a great game and you can easily pick up a copy on Ebay. Anyone interested in the game should check out the interview that the Two Half Squads did with John Hill before he passed. Keep the videos coming!

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Will do!

@garyfortenberry5829

Жыл бұрын

Ironically enough, the Half Squad concept is an ASL thing. ;)

@malcolmsleight9334

Жыл бұрын

@@LegendaryTactics I was lucky enough to know John Hill. He is sorely missed.

Incredible video. Can't even imagine how much time and talent you used to create it. Thank you so much for sharing.

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! It did take some time, but a game like Squad Leader is worth it, and hopefully it will be a video that makes the game more accessible to new players!

@havable

Жыл бұрын

@@LegendaryTactics I see you moving around those counters with your mouse and I want a version like that.

Wow!! This was one of my favourite games to play and was definitely the hardest game to persuade anyone else to play!! Particularly when you opened the box and they saw what seemed to be thousands of counters.... Perhaps if we'd had this video it might have been different. A really fantastic job in breaking down a very complicated game. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

@LegendaryTactics

3 ай бұрын

You're welcome! Thanks for watching. We are planning to do some more squad leader content at some point soon

Excellent narrative - great cadence in speaking. The viewer is able to absorb what you are saying. This is a nice review for an old SL/ASL grognard and for novice.

@LegendaryTactics

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for saying so! I'm glad people are finding this video helpful!

I wrote several scenarios for this game. I wonder if I can find them. It was a lot of fun to write them, and playtest for balance.

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

You should put them in the files section at boardgamegeek.com!

Well done! You explain the rules, assuming little or no previous war gaming experience, but without being needlessly pedantic - a balance that's hard to manage. (I usually tend toward the pedantic side, myself.)

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for saying so, although sometimes it is fun to be pedantic :)

@havable

Жыл бұрын

@@LegendaryTactics I actually learned a few things that had gone over my head from when I was playing in the 80s.

Grest video I still have my purple box signed by John hill. I prefer to play ASL now but this game started it all wonderful game enjoy your ride whatever it is

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

That's great! Thanks for watching and commenting!

Me and the army boys would stay up late playing this over in Nam in '77. Great memories.

@LegendaryTactics

9 ай бұрын

I'm glad it brought back some memories!

Thanks I just picked this up unpunched with 2 expansions.

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

Great! Hopefully one of them is Cross of Iron, which is supposed to be the best one!

I own two copies of all the Squad Leader games. Squad Leader, Cross of Iron, Crescendo of Doom and GI Anvil of Victory. I love this game and play it as often as I can. The hard part is finding people in my area that will play it. I have a nephew that will play, but the hard part is getting the time together.

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

Yes, there were less distractions before, so it was a bit easier to find the time

@andrewluchsinger

Жыл бұрын

@@LegendaryTactics I still play it solo. My wife thinks I'm nuts. LOL

@christophersivley5289

Жыл бұрын

I have two sons who used to play but the computer games have stolen there time and they don’t hVe the love of board gaming! I and three friends started up a game club back in the 80s and played every Saturday! We had over 30 members and usually had at least three to four games going when we had enough players! SL was one of the games selected more than any other!

@colstahler1294

9 ай бұрын

Hi Andrew, if you can find gamers to play on Vassal, then you do not need people in the neighborhood Works great for me

@andrewluchsinger

9 ай бұрын

@@colstahler1294 I do love playing other people, but I will have to try Vassal.

Brilliant video, thanks! Now you're making me think I should stick with Squad Leader instead of the ASL Starter Kits, as it's a bit simpler.

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

I don't have any experience with ASL, unfortunately, so I can't really comment... Maybe learn SL first and then move on to ASL?

Many thanks for this. I acquired the game and dozens if not hundreds of addons but never got past the introductory scenarios. You have piqued my interest and it may be time for another look, having played Grigsby games for many moons. (Wie, Wiw)

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! Give it another go and report back to us! Let us know how it goes!

This is superb! Thank you!

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! Thanks for watching!

this video was so useful , thank you

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching!

I thought I was the only person in the world who liked this game. Never found anyone who would have a game. I've got the Russian one to. I got them in the seventys. I hope someone plays some game on it net. I'll play!!! Think I still remember the rules.

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

The game certainly sold thousands of copies. Hope you were able to find someone to play with!

"oww!" ~ laughs ~

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

Ah, you noticed that LOL

I played this game a lot. Years ago. I mean YEARS. How do you get an original SL Starter Box? It must be at least 30 years old. When I start playing SL, back in 1990 i think, Advanced SL was in the stores. Thank you for some good memories.

@LegendaryTactics

7 ай бұрын

You're welcome! The original Squad Leader is from 1977. You can still find copies on eBay, however

The advice would have more helpful in the late '70's when I first started playing SL. 🤔🤔😂😂

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

Sorry, I was only small at that time and unable to help you :)

love this game ,,so when are you going to do Caesars legions how to play ?

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

It's on the list, but I have no idea exactly when I will get to it...so many games, so little time...

thank you sir😀

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

This must have taken slot of time to make!! You kinda made a digital version of the game🙂

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

It did take a while to make this one, but the others won't be as involved!

The key to this scenario is the lack of Russian leaders. There are only 3. The guards units (6-2-8s) have only 1 leader for 12 squads. It's a really good leader (10-2) but one KIA result and your entire west flank starts failing. The size of the map and the location of German troops makes moving a leader over to replace the loss of this 10-2 nearly impossible. He's likely to die in the street between buildings. When playing the Russians, especially the guard units, keep your leader separate and back, just rallying. One bad result on your leader stack and you've probably lost. Having a couple guards units go berserk can go a long way towards a Soviet victory as well. In my experience, the Germans usually win this one, and is tied almost exclusively to the survival of the Russian leaders. Conversely, if you are playing the Germans, always fire at the Russian stacks with leaders, when possible.

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

Those are some great observations! As the German player, it isn't hard to feel really overwhelmed and that you have too many targets. Thanks for those tips as I feel they're really helpful to make sense of the chaos!

I hope you’ll do one for Up Front someday!

@LegendaryTactics

11 күн бұрын

Yes, it's all in the works... Stay tuned!

Thanks!

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!! We really appreciate your support!

Great explanation. Brought back many fond memories. How did you create this with video? Is the game available in digital format?

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

I filmed this video entirely using Tabletop Simulator, where you can find a digital version of this and many other games. We did a video on how to use it: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dWaMmNihnavdoZs.html

@brg8960

Жыл бұрын

@@LegendaryTactics Thank you. Now, no more fiddling with counters.

Bought this in 1985, I was in the Air Force with a boring desk job and living in the barracks which was just as boring. I took the rulebook to work and read the sections and when I next had a day off, played the scenarios. Great game. I later purchased Cross of Iron and Crescendo of Doom but was disappointed as the level of complexity just got too much to keep up with and I always played these games solitaire. Computer wargaming has changed everything now anyway. PS. I do like the Streets of Stalingrad scenario with tanks and flamethrowers but also Hill 621 is a favorite of mine as well, all those Soviet troops pouring out of the town.

@LegendaryTactics

Ай бұрын

That's great - I know I have hesitated to move much past the base game of Squad Leader, as the complexity gets to be quite intimidating!

New to war gaming here. Do you have a tutorial on the computer program you are using? As I collect Avalon Hill games I have been enjoying your vids! Interested in the virtual aspect.

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

Yes, we have a tutorial on Tabletop Simulator:. kzread.info/dash/bejne/dWaMmNihnavdoZs.html

Great video but do you know when the No retreat series will end?

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

Hi there, sorry I've been so distracted. I will prioritize getting that done! 👍

Now if I can just get you to explain Warhammer turns and rules.

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

Haha, wow, that would be quite the undertaking - I'm flattered that you think I would do a decent job!

Couple of errors along the way. During defensive fire, you fire at any enemy unit, not only on those which moved. And units that break under fire are automatically DM.

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching, and for pointing those out! I did address the defensive fire point at 32:20, although it was perhaps too much of a "throwaway line". With Desperation Morale, I think that your point is a good reminder of the application of the rule I speak of at 29:06. But let me know what you think!

@achabot951

2 жыл бұрын

@@LegendaryTactics I must confess I had stopped watching rather early on. So I went to listen at the 29.06 point. You indeed address DM. The reason i raised the point is that a significant number of players think one has to fire twice at a unit to get it DM in the first place. Anyway, I stopped playing SL and its gamettes about 35 years ago when I moved to ASL. Still have a soft spot for the old buddy though.

@garyfortenberry5829

Жыл бұрын

And, that change in ASL, adding a Defensive First Fire Phase that is intertwined with the Movement Phase is what makes ASL such an improvement over SL. No more putting reticle marker all over the place during movement, then trying to remember who moved through each reticle to drag them back so that they can be fired upon, then placing the unscathed survivors back wherever they ended up the movement phase. The varying degrees of KIA results along with Random Selection rules are very nice additions as well.

Much diff from original Squad Leader. Never played ASL. Played Russian U.S. & German of Squad Leader. Leaders couldn't carry MMGs, just satchel charges or a LMG, IIRC. Been a few decades.

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

It's a great game! You should give it another go!

@andypanda4927

Жыл бұрын

@@LegendaryTactics well, we're talking mid-80s. The crew getting together for games a bunch of old darts like me and scattered about. Never met another gaming group with similar gaming interests. Still chat with one time to time, but, geography precludes. Rest? Have no idea.

I was really into your video until you kept saying portaage instead of portage. That being said, an excellent game that I played in the USAF back in the '70's/80's. I had the four add on packs for Squad Leader. Didn't get into advanced Squad Leader since I had invested so much time and effort into SL.

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

Ha ha, that must be my Canadian accent, eh? And I totally understand your hesitation with ASL - it was such a big investment in so many ways

@davidwilliams7935

Жыл бұрын

Actually the way you're pronouncing it is a French soup.

Excuse me while I mop my brains up from the floor.

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

Ha ha, and THIS is the easiest one to learn!

This is cool. But I mean kick it up a notch a play Necromunda!

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

I will have to look that one up...!

I guess the question is are Advanced Squad Leader Starter kits a good happy medium between ASL and SL?

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

I will be exploring those as well at some point. I'll let you know! I'm hoping so!

@valensinclair6750

Жыл бұрын

Yes

What software/game are you using for this video?

This may sound like a total newbie question and I apologize up-front… In this video you are using some sort of software or online service to click and drag tiles on an image of the game board. Is this something that is available to the general public or is it something you created for the video? I would love to have a tool like this to assist me in learning how to play games.

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

Not a newbie question! I filmed this video entirely using Tabletop Simulator, where you can find a digital version of this and many other games. We did a video on how to use it: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dWaMmNihnavdoZs.html

@markmckay7897

Жыл бұрын

@@LegendaryTactics Awesome. Thank you so much. I love your videos!

What is the name of the software you're using to play?

Nice breakdown. Played as a kid. Avalon Hill is gone. So, is the game still available?

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

Copies of Squad Leader are still pretty plentiful out there on sites like eBay. Or do you mean in digital format?

@Frank08046

Жыл бұрын

@@LegendaryTactics Thanks. I've looked around and saw that there are plenty of the games left. I'm still doing research. There's a digital version?

@Frank08046

Жыл бұрын

@@LegendaryTactics Got one on eBay. Says it's unpunched. Looking at this video I realize I was not playing entirely correct back in the 80's

An excellent summation of the rules but the video is mis-titled. I chose to watch a scenario one play.

@LegendaryTactics

6 ай бұрын

We are going to play through the scenario at some point soon for the channel

Penetration factor? I have been playing Squad Leader since it came out, and have never heard of any such thing for machine guns.

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

Rules 17.5 through 17.7, my friend! It is there to recreate the ability of machine guns to create fire lanes.

Really, it's not a negative number. It's just a dash separating the numeric values.

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

It can be seen either way. But for terrible leaders, don't they write at "6+1"?

@davidwesthoff7746

Жыл бұрын

It is a negative number. You add or subtract based on the number on the leader counter. Been playing since the early 80's.

@box1444

Жыл бұрын

@@LegendaryTactics yes, you'll find colonels at 6+1 on the counter.

OMG! Never have I ever had such a raging nostalgia boner. Thank you.

@jlance1971

Жыл бұрын

25 minutes and a trip to ebay later. I have a copy of a treasured chilhood memory that I fear I almost forgot about. I am now off to try and find an online community and fullfil a nostalgic dream of finding a big enough nerd to play this with me. Wish me luck.

@jlance1971

Жыл бұрын

I also remember that I really apreciated a computers ability to apply such complex rules relieveing me of having to remember them all. And now, decades later, lets be kind and just say that maybe my ability to remember this many rules is slightly diminished. Fortuneately, I welcome the challenge.

I don’t see prep fire, firing

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

Do you mean you didn't see the prep fire rules?

@cwcsquared

Жыл бұрын

@@LegendaryTactics nope. Looks like you forgot

Has anyone ever met a chick that played Squad Leader? 😎. I knew a couple freaky chicks that played D&D back then, but none that played war-games past RISK, much less a real war-game like Squad Leader.😎

@LegendaryTactics

7 ай бұрын

I haven't, but I can't say I've looked very hard either. But, for whatever reason, the anecdotal evidence says you're right. Hopefully we can get some ladies involved, as it is a great game for everyone to experience

Sometimes we would literally spend DAYS playing!!!!!

@LegendaryTactics

3 ай бұрын

Wow, that's awesome! I wish I had that kind of time these days

I was never a Squad Leader fan. The game was too complex.

@LegendaryTactics

2 жыл бұрын

I totally understand. The hobby was trending towards more and more complex games in this era. Good thing you didn't try Advanced Squad Leader then! ;)

prettier maps than asl

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

Sure, although they were similar. It would be an interesting debate!

You never got to discussing Scenario 1 itself and the actual tactical issues involved there. LOL Granted I am new to the site. But the real glaring issue, is you had a bunch of weird dice for the game shown during this vid. That irked me. SACREILIEGE!!! HERETIC!!!! Squad Leader must be played with 2 regulation AH white dice. Those square dice were "Life or Death" , "Win or Lose". And them wearing down only made your game copy look like a veteran of many battles, many opponents, many memories of such battles. Using new " cheap-az backgammon dice" (I don't care even if they are made of real Ivory or blood diamonds) would be an insult to the game of Squad Leader . (plus rounded dice roll further, bad idea, for war board-game with game pieces everywhere.) Nope, I am walking off at a gaming convention, if you want to play with those. LOL There is no other way

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

Ha ha, I roll the dice I am given, and I roll them well. This is meant to be a tutorial to explain the rules to anyone looking to play it. I would like to do a more tactical analysis of the scenarios when I have a chance!

@chrisperrien7055

Жыл бұрын

@@LegendaryTactics I know , but those AH dice were/are the integral part of the game. You can fight over the rules with a coin -flip LOL, if it gets down to that* ;). BTW You missed that AH suggestion, I think. Debating/lawyering/fighting over the rules is one of the first things you will run into playing SL and its Mechanics of Play. Definitely starting with Scenario 1. :) MG penetration? I look at Mapboard 1, in this vid and I remember arguments over that from 45 years ago. LOL. *usually a terrible idea, best just to quit if it got to there. Because the flip loser would just quit shortly anyway, or stop caring about playing .

Avalon Hill lost its business due to ASL. AH put all their resources and experience into ASL. ASL this--ASL that. ASL! ASL! ASL! I need more cow bell! ASL is not any better than SL

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you. I think the popularity of video games also contributed to their sad end, but I think you're on to something!

@garyfortenberry5829

Жыл бұрын

ASL is the vastly superior game.

@crhu319

Жыл бұрын

@@garyfortenberry5829 wouldn't know. Never bought it never played it. The only audience for it was those who had already bought the previous four.

@jeffwise8194

Жыл бұрын

@@garyfortenberry5829 You are also right about that, from a miniatures POV. But was ASL really worth losing AH? Those peeps got old too and maybe ready for retirement. When the hobby lost AH we all lost a good thing.

@garyfortenberry5829

Жыл бұрын

@@jeffwise8194 I don’t play miniatures with ASL. I was speaking strictly regarding a small unit tactics board game. Just the changes to the movement phase defensive fire phase were groundbreaking and made ASL the king of the genre. When the other tweaks are taken into consideration I can’t imagine preferring SL to ASL. Avalon Hill was sold because Hasbro wanted to get the rights to their intellectual property and made the Dotts an offer they deemed acceptable.

Thanks!

@LegendaryTactics

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!!