I worked with the croatian army in the US army. They won't let you forget that they make our Springfield XD, or the VHS-2. They're very proud of their guns, and rightly so.

@damyr

2 жыл бұрын

LOL that's because we are a small nation (population 4 mil), so we are sometimes overly proud of everything we make, like we won an Olympic gold or something. :) But I guess that's still a bit of accomplishment in this world of big global players.

@ivan-Croatian

2 жыл бұрын

🤣

@alihd-jd9gw

Жыл бұрын

كم مدى اطلاق النار كم يصل

@jacobishii6121

Жыл бұрын

It's our Springfield XD .....it's a Croatian gun that Springfield bought the US lisc rights to

@pineapple999100

Жыл бұрын

The XD is a turd. Lmao

Btw. That pin in the cheek piece that it pivots around is a product improvement. Our original rifles didn't have it for a period of about 2 years and many a cheek piece was lost in the woods and many a soldier was smoked for it.

@logical-checkmate

2 жыл бұрын

Cheers from the Czech republic. That's sweet rifle you made my Croatian brothers and sisters. 🇨🇿🍻🇭🇷

@philbrotherton5720

2 жыл бұрын

Were there any instances of the bolt being reassembled the opposite way to the ejection port & then being fired?

@MatoVuc

2 жыл бұрын

@@philbrotherton5720 none that i know of. Even if it was reassembled the wrong way, the worst that would happen is that the weapon would try to eject the round through the closed ejection port and jam up. The one incident that did result in a damaged rifle was when one fired a live round with the blank adapter on the barrel. The gun was damaged and needed to be sent to HS Produkt, but no one was injured.

@CZProtton

2 жыл бұрын

@@MatoVuc It seems like an amazingly well made rifle, are you one of the constructors? Or a soldier that got issued this thing? I would love to know how it behaves in the field, it looks like it should work very well.

@mynick937

2 жыл бұрын

@@MatoVuc Kada sam gledao prvi video gdje je rastavljao VHS 2 ,prvo šta sam pomislio bilo je Bit će te plastike svuda😅

So there's "Kraut Space Magic", "Czechnology", "The French copy no one and no one copies the French", "Three Guys in a Shed" and "Nyet, rifle is fine". How should we refer to Croatian arms engineering?

@PrototypeSpaceMonkey

2 жыл бұрын

That Thanos meme of "Fine, I'll do it myself" comes to mind.

@damyr

2 жыл бұрын

@@PrototypeSpaceMonkey LOL

@wildcardbitchesyeehaw8320

2 жыл бұрын

You forgot one, "Rifle is fine but needs some Finnishing touches"

@eliharman

2 жыл бұрын

For the homeland, ready!

@jacobstaten2366

2 жыл бұрын

"Croat Space Magic."

Feels weird realizing that bullpups really are an "old" idea. I remember being wowed as a child by models like the F2000, AUG, and P90, and now 20+ years later they're still treated like a novelty or something that small countries with tiny militaries blow wads of cash on because it sounds like a good idea.

@ulvschmidt7174

2 жыл бұрын

I am still awed by them

@gunmadonna

2 жыл бұрын

the aug dates all the way back to 1978, and there was an experimental british bullpup called the em2 in 1951!

@theonewithin609

2 жыл бұрын

The M4 is almost 40 years old... It's the US standard rifle... And somehow somethin from 20+ years ago is old? Strange.

@NamelocTheBard

2 жыл бұрын

@@theonewithin609 Yes, it's possible that two separate items can be old, that's how time works. Also Bullpups in general are in fact older than the M4, or any Armalite-derived rifle. The 20 years is just in reference to the F2000 specifically, as it was essentially one of the last "big things" in Bullpups for quite some time. Strange indeed.

@RobertMorgan

2 жыл бұрын

@@theonewithin609 40 years old? the 1960s were only 40 years ago? I'm almost 40 and was born in 1983, strange.

I haven’t used a VHS for self-defense since I was little. Mind you it was a VHS copy of The Green Mile and I was throwing at my little brother, but I think the concept is still there.

@MellowFellowOfYellow

2 жыл бұрын

Walking the green mile walking the green mile

@justindunlap1235

2 жыл бұрын

you probably gave your little brother a concussion.

@robertwright7937

2 жыл бұрын

The book is much better. Especially the hardback. You can get some force behind that one.

@helmsscotta

2 жыл бұрын

But did you heal him afterward?

@tombogan03884

2 жыл бұрын

Should have walloped him with the Betamax. LOL

The idea for doing everything inhouse was not just because of the "enemy" neighbour, but also to circumvent embargos or export stops.

@engineer1941

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, Croatian infantry man is fully equipped with gear from Croatia. Ifv is also localy produced licensed version or patria. There should have been tanks but project was killed in 2004.

@thekraken1173

2 жыл бұрын

I think it is because during the Yugoslavian Civil War, Zastava Factory was in Serbian controlled area. It made an effect on people.

@shinobi-no-bueno

2 жыл бұрын

@@engineer1941 as all countries should do

@inyoface5456

2 жыл бұрын

The thing is, because of the wartime embargo, the croatians were forced to smuggle in 30k AKs from Hungary and basically fought with sticks and stones, so they're trying to not let it happen again.

@europaprimum7050

2 жыл бұрын

@@shinobi-no-bueno Sub Saharan Africans can't design their own things.

It's impressive that every part of the rifle was made under one roof. It's a thing of beauty

I had the chance to travel to Croatia in 2018 it is a beautiful country with amazing food and good people. The years of the war still live in the collective consciousness of the nation. I was there when they made it to the semi finals of the World Cup and it was a sight to behold. This rifle like the country of origin is beautiful and high quality.

@ghkk9941

2 жыл бұрын

And some Americans joined us to defend country from Serbian aggression. And many other countries foreign volunteers

@zagrepcanin82

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you bro

@pixsilvb9638

2 жыл бұрын

They went to the last world cup final against France. Croatia has a pretty good resume in world cups. Land of inventors and creative minds; like Nikola Tesla, inventor of the AC (alternating current); or Slavoljub Penkala inventor of the fountain pen; or Ivan Lupis, created the concept for the modern torpedo.

@Clash_CT_Rocker69

Жыл бұрын

@@pixsilvb9638 You forget mention Faust Vrančić, inventor of parachute (homo volans) or David Schwartz - air ship and his invention has been STOLEN by Zeppelin.

@tihomirrasperic

Жыл бұрын

you forget (or didn't know) Croatia fought for 400 years against the Turks, and two world wars 50 years of "peace" in Yugoslavia cannot erase the military spirit We have been at war for 300 years longer than the Israelis

The Croatians seem to have put a lot of thought into this. They must have took any feedback they got from the end users of the original rifle and maybe even went beyond any requests made to make it better. I like it.

@johnqpublic2718

2 жыл бұрын

Still a bull-pizzle

@varanid9

2 жыл бұрын

Seems like a great rifle, but I kinda balk at the price. I also have reservations about not having a chrome lined barrel.

@shooteveryday1841

2 жыл бұрын

Well, they built a rifle from a set of requirements, iterated, and validated the design, including batteries of testing developed by a military. Having the hindsight of the problems of modern military rifles and bullpups was surely valuable. And even then- they had to go from VHS-1 to VHS-2. Bravo to the successful work of the engineers at HS Produkt.

@u2beuser714

2 жыл бұрын

@@varanid9 to my knowledge it costs 2000 dollars right?

@Darth.Fluffy

2 жыл бұрын

It actually seem like they went further. They addressed the complaints over OTHER bullpups.

In the Croatian military, we used proprietary VHS magazines that were inspired by G-36 magazines. On the VHS-1, they were more G-36 square-ish shaped, with the AR type magazine latch and bottom plate. They sucked... On the VHS-2, the developed a magazine that is shaped more like the pmag, with the G-36 latch system and snap-together system and a more AK like bottom plate. Those were excellent.

@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive

2 жыл бұрын

G-36 magazines fit perfectly apparently.

@lewhanwen4302

2 жыл бұрын

@@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive Yeah, they actually switched to G36 magazines The propertiary magazines were discontinued and rarely show up with the VHS-2.

@MatoVuc

2 жыл бұрын

@@lewhanwen4302 interesting. That was definitely not the case during my service.

@stagalgiz1097

2 жыл бұрын

I wish they had kept that in this release, since I have a Tommy Built TG36E (all German parts so consider it a G36E with only an American receiver and carry handle that are both built by Tommy Built Tactical). I have my review on the TG36E over on my channel with my buddy. Point is, I got rid of my AR's for the TG36E (also I'm third Generation German-American so I kinda like my Kraut gear and guns). I've wanted this to come out for awhile, just like the TG36E. Since I'm familiar with the charging handle on the G36, this wouldn't be much of a change in the battery of arms. FYI, I have 5,000 rounds through my TG36E, no issues and it will shoot steel cased without an issue. My TG36E is showing plenty of wear, and frankly a rifle that cost $3200 should be used. I didn't buy a safe or range queen. This will be my next purchase.

@Buletspunge555

2 жыл бұрын

@@stagalgiz1097 I would think getting a mag adaptor would be possible, and if they aren't offered by Springfield, looks easy to 3d print.

Those of us who drove M1A1 Heavy tanks through Croatia into Bosnia back in the winter of '95 to stop the war there have never forgotten Croatia. Drove an M1A1 across the first floating pontoon bridge deployed in an active Army operation anywhere on the planet since World War II. We froze our butts off in the snow too. Of course the border area near Bosnia was pretty much blasted out rubble back then but the Croatians very quickly rebuilt it all. Croatia is now a vacation hotspot and highly recommended. I went back once summer for a week's vacation in 00s when I was still living in Germany and it's a fantastic country with a lot of history and some really nice people. Like any other eastern European country, if you show them respect they'll return it in kind. And hoo boy do they *hate* commies there. Can't say I blame them at all. I also have a nice XD in .45 and an XDm in 9mm and both pistols have been flawless in operation, the XDm in particular has a nice crisp trigger is more accurate than even my skills can provide. All I did was slap easier-to-see fiber-optic night sights on them and left the rest alone, but I ran with the white dots for years with no real issues.

I actually work every summer as a student in company that is external collaborator to HS Product in field of electricity and automation and I have seen and been in almost every process of manufacturing this gun. I must say that, in general, HS is very sophisticated, organized and has helped many people from that area to get a job and to prosper. All in all, as I read the comments I can be very proud as a Croat and someone who worked there, but there's always room for improvement. :)

YES, finally we see this bullpup Croatian beauty on the US civilian market. I'm very happy my country's weapon manufacturers made what is probably the best deal they could make. The quality of HS firearms is respectable, the weapons look great, it was only a matter of time.

@frankopanklaric

2 жыл бұрын

Yea, but then you remember it's springfield and start to feel sorry for HS.

@angrydragon4574

2 жыл бұрын

They can't go wrong with entering the US civilian arms market. Especially when it already takes AR mags.

@shinobi-no-bueno

2 жыл бұрын

@@frankopanklaric what problems have you run into with Springfield firearms

@noahjackl2240

2 жыл бұрын

@@shinobi-no-bueno Alot of pro-2a guys don’t like them because they had a business relationship with I believe a contractor that backed a gun control bill in Illinois, but that relationship is now over.

@chickensbelike2790

2 жыл бұрын

@@shinobi-no-bueno my only issue i ever had was the springfield hellcat pistol, it couldve been a lemon but that thing could not group for shit. Im not afraid to admit im an amateur shooter and my groupings arent great to begin with but I couldnt shoot true with that pistol no matter what I tried. anyways this VHS2 that they have sure looks promising and I might see myself owning one in the next few years.

The VHS-2 was evaluated by the U.S. military, probably just in order to familiarise certain troops with it, they purchased 250 VHS-2’s back in 2015.

@korgothofbarbaria2841

2 жыл бұрын

Or 500?

@mrjockt

2 жыл бұрын

@@korgothofbarbaria2841 They purchased 500 of the earlier VHS-1 back in the early 2000’s for the same purpose.

@mrjockt

2 жыл бұрын

@@dirckthedork-knight1201 As I posted originally it was probably just to familiarise certain troops within the U.S. military in the use of the weapons, I very much doubt if there was any intention of ever issuing such a weapon to any branch of the regular military.

@mpetersen6

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrjockt Makes sense. I would expect the troops involved in the familiarization process would be SF or airborne personnel that could potentially be deployed into the area. A just in case situation.

@MrCcfly

2 жыл бұрын

@@mike-yd4py less then ak they use before

I find it interesting that this rifle actually has a "forward assist" - if you press down on the metal tab at the back of the charging handle it makes it reciprocating until you release the tab. This does not seem to be documented in Springfield Armory's manual.

The gun also has some serious combat chops already, too. 100,000 were purchased by Iraq for use by the federal police, the army, and special forces during the conflict with IS. Naturally a number ended up in Syria, too Pics started showing up around 2016-2017 and the guns appear to still be in widespread use. So it's a combat-proven new bullpup as well

The VHS2 is showing up in a lot of my YT feeds... Lots of excitement about this rifle. Edit: That cam pin is a brilliant bit of simple-but-efficient engineering.

@u2beuser714

2 жыл бұрын

Croats gave americans this rifle now its americans turn to give croats the f-16

@manifestman132

2 жыл бұрын

@@u2beuser714 That plan fell through they bought Rafales instead. Also the Gripen is the better option.

@onpsxmember

2 жыл бұрын

Official release at shot show, so it'll be featured quite a bit. Media coverage ban lifted and so on.

@madkoala2130

2 жыл бұрын

@@manifestman132 what if there is war again in that region, then who will sell speer parts for those Gripens (Swedan is known to be neutral in every conflict unless they gave licence to someone else)

@lairdcummings9092

2 жыл бұрын

@@madkoala2130 if there's a demand, parts will be found. There are always plenty of merchants willing to provide, if the price is right.

Beta fans: If VHS is so good, why isn't there a VHS2? Croatia:

@COIcultist

2 жыл бұрын

Will they do a Video 2000 version?

For my opinion one of the best bullpups ever created. Everything is ergonomic, very well thought out and can even be fully used by left- and right-handed people without any disadvantages.

That cam pin solution for changing ejection is genius-level stuff. I feel like there are the quick and dirty utilitarian type things that get the job like just adding or swapping deflectors and even overly complicated stuff like you see with forward ejecting but that Cam pin set up is just next level, and as a person that loves firearm design I think that's really impressive.

@tihomirrasperic

Жыл бұрын

there is a promotional video of the factory, I think you need less than 2 minutes to change left or right

@Sleepy_Alligator

Жыл бұрын

It's an elegant solution, beautiful in its functional simplicity.

@hoilst265

8 ай бұрын

@@Sleepy_Alligator F2000: good engineering. VHS-2: good design.

I just love that Ian got a dig in at the VHS/BETA jokes... Kinda annoyed because I was going to crack one, but hey, Ian breaking the fourth wall was funnier.

@beargillium2369

2 жыл бұрын

The Fourth wall is the camera... being a presentation type video he's speaking directly to the audience the entire time. Plus the joke is clearly that they've done away with the clock because nobody could ever set it correctly.

That is an elegant design. Two thumbs up for the Croats, great work.

@johnbartlet6669

2 жыл бұрын

@@MansMan42069 The last one

Love the design of this weapon, modern looking while having a bit of 'future looking' spice. You could easily put this something like Starship Trooper and would blend with the aesthetics.

@amannamedsquid313

2 жыл бұрын

Would be a lot more practical than most of the weapons is Starship Troopers.

@brandonhallam51

2 жыл бұрын

Or Halo

@xkavarsmith9322

2 жыл бұрын

Think PlayStation. Not for nothing have people referred to this as "the Helghast rifle" from the Killzone series.

@registheron9752

2 жыл бұрын

@@xkavarsmith9322 the Stahl Arms StA-52

9:19 - That adjustable length of pull is something that interests me the most. So many bullpups can't do that. They keep forgetting the advantages of fitting the gun to the shooter in the quest to make it small.

@tihomirrasperic

Жыл бұрын

there are also two barrel lengths shorter 16" (shown) for paratroopers and special forces and a longer barrel 20" for normal infantry

@MrLM002

Жыл бұрын

@@tihomirrasperic Springfield definitely needs to import the 20 inch barrel models to the US. For 5.56 bullpups the standard barrel length should be 20 inches.

@clownworld4655

Жыл бұрын

It’s really nice, but the only issue is that the hellion/vhs already has a pretty long LOP even when fully collapsed. Mainly helps if you’re very tall

Very neat looking, impressive gun, however I have some concerns that the DVD rifle will make it obsolete

@tadeuszkrassowski9300

2 жыл бұрын

Use the Force, Marek... Beyond BlueRa(y)dom you look!😉

@kj3n569

2 жыл бұрын

Which will soon be replaced by the BluRay Gun. Technology. It moves fast.

@biglypox

2 жыл бұрын

Illegally downloaded guns will lead to its obsolescence too 🤔

@ArcturusOTE

2 жыл бұрын

@@biglypox Mmm, 3D printed guns So far no gas systems but roller delayed blowback seems feasible enough

@CroHOOLIGANs

2 жыл бұрын

Wtf you talking about new model will be named Streamio ( whit options to stream netflix & amazon prime at same time)

Very excited to see this being imported finally, my only concern is cost. If they want to carve out their own section in the market its gonna have to cost less than the Tavor/Aug

@ForgottenWeapons

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I was surprised at the price; I expected it to be higher.

@molonlabe420

2 жыл бұрын

@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine correct

@ls200076

2 жыл бұрын

@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine Yup, 2000. I expected higher.

@geodkyt

2 жыл бұрын

MSRP is $2K, which means i expect "street" price by the end of the year will be around what an AUG is.

@geodkyt

2 жыл бұрын

@Sqwee it's a Melonite coated barrel, not bare steel. Superior corrosion resistance and accuracy to typical chrome lined barrels, and unless your doing mag dumps or otherwise treating it like a machinegun barrel, should be just fine. You might see excessive erosion compared to chrome that actually starts to affect accuracy more than chrome does after 5000+ rounds.

Excellent channel and excellent videos on Croatian firearms. I would recommend you do an interview with HS product designers, I met some of them and they have very interesting stories about why the made the VHS like they did. The stories are full of anecdotes from Croatian war, Yugoslav army, French foreign army, etc. When you see all the Hellion reviews from USA, you ask yourself why did they do some features like this, but they have excellent answers why.

I have to say, when I looked at it, I thought it was going to be tricky to field strip. Holy heck was I wrong. This looks like a bullpup I might actually buy if I was in the market for one. Well played HS, well played.

This seems to be a very well-designed rifle. Very impressive work on the part of the designer and manufacturer.

As you suggested, I imagine a 3rd party manufacturer like Geissele Automatics will contemplate its own trigger upgrades to this rifle. That would be quite a rig!

@CKshouta

2 жыл бұрын

or KE arms?

@americanmilitiaman88

2 жыл бұрын

They did for the tavor

@caporalmilitary7240

2 жыл бұрын

top 5 weapon 3Dprinters 😮😮😮kzread.info/dash/bejne/nWWMkqdup8TWlc4.html

Just want to say thanks for keeping your channel the same over all these years and not pressing unrelated sponsors on your viewers in every video. It's nice to see someone making content simply to spread knowledge and not just trying to grow your channel purely for monetary gain. You and Paul Harrell are SEVERELY underrated.

Just picked one up after spending months deciding on a bullpup. Love it

I just got a new dream rifle. Also, the more obtainable FAMAS

Glad to see Croatian weapons manufacturing being showcased. Love and Hail from Croatia! :)

@WTFisTingispingis

2 жыл бұрын

Ayyy, you guys make pretty decent guns.

@sik59rt

2 жыл бұрын

@@WTFisTingispingis like?

@TheLoveTrain

2 жыл бұрын

@@sik59rt The VHS-2...

@varanid9

2 жыл бұрын

Hail, Croatian brother!

@kennys9644

2 жыл бұрын

@@sik59rt And the HS2000

My biggest issue with bulpups (as a former soldier) was cleaning was a bugger. I know you like to not pick on in range on little things, and yeah that’s in depth. But practically, as a soldier it’s serviceability in the field. So stoppages and cleaning. And in this regard this looks rather promising. I think I’d be very happy to have been issued it 👌

For some reason, my inner gadget geek got a kick out of watching the strip down. Decent design and engineering always makes me happy.

I really like this rifle, it's the closest thing we have to a "modern" FAMAS "look-alike".

@Rensune

2 жыл бұрын

FAMAS, but better.

@RedXlV

2 жыл бұрын

I wish it had a more FAMAS-like carry handle, just for aesthetic reasons.

@shinobi-no-bueno

2 жыл бұрын

@@RedXlV I do not

@ScottKenny1978

2 жыл бұрын

@@RedXlV this looks like the FAMAS with FELÍN gear. And I *want* one.

@aizseeker3622

2 жыл бұрын

Remind me of Halo BR

I’d love to see a 9-hole review of this gun, and seeing what he thinks of the iron sights.

As a european (Czech), I was looking through websites of HS Produkt, as I like their pistols, and stumbled upon this rifle like two years ago... I wished You made a video about theirs VHS, and here we go. Thanks Ian! New toy to get hand on to...

For a country as small as Croatia, having a complete domestic production [including all the parts] of a service rifle in similar quality to other modern rifles [certainly better than the Russian AK-12] is quite an achievment. And an important step towards protecting your national independence even under hostile circumstances. Congratulations Croatia.

That seems like a really solid well manufactured rifle. Reminds me of a supremely improved FAMAS

@TheNinjaDC

2 жыл бұрын

As the XD line has shown, the Croatians make great arms.

@TheSlasherJunkie

2 жыл бұрын

If you watch his video on the VHS-2, that’s essentially what it is. The French were looking at replacing the FAMAS, Croatia took the commercial version and modernized the hell out of it thinking that the ease of transition would win the contest. It still lost to the HK-416, but I’m incredibly happy these bad boys are getting imported.

@defconart7387

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSlasherJunkie Yeahhh to me our leaders just wanted the 416 and they found excuses to all the other weapon in list. The VHS-2 was following our training and doctrine, it was really logic to take it. I like the 416 but it's asking a lot of effort to re learn all the training, cleaning etc ... that's a bit sad, I would have love to see our guys with that rifle ^^

@mdc2296

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheNinjaDC That's a joke...right?

@mdc2296

2 жыл бұрын

@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine The police department I worked for had a list of guns that were prohibited to be carried by officers due to safety, reliability, and general quality issues. The Springfield XD in any of its iterations was second on the list right under the S&W SD9VE. I've personally seen them fail time and time again, they're far from good guns.

Okay, I once declared I wanted nothing more in life than the Laugo Alien. Now I feel like I'm being unfaithful because I feel the exact same way about this.

@PassiveDestroyer

2 жыл бұрын

Why not both?

@Jebotito

2 жыл бұрын

@@PassiveDestroyer well 7000 bucks later you can ask yourself that question again lol

@PassiveDestroyer

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jebotito No thanks, I'm intrigued by both, but I don't really crave either.

@peasant_shots

2 жыл бұрын

That's some expensive taste you have my friend

@Jebotito

2 жыл бұрын

@LabRat Knatz well the alien was around 5k if i remember correctly and the VHS is 2k, right?

Very innovative. This is a bullpup I could learn to love. Well done Croatia.

Love the modularity. Almost feels like Lego’s with retaining pins opus a few metal pieces, where “beyond polymer” strength is req’d. Clever.

This has basically everything I love in a rifle design. Really great design. Just from looking at it, this seems like a really great design period, but especially for a bullpup

@andersjjensen

2 жыл бұрын

"Bulb-up", not bullpup. Bulls get calves, not pups :P (Well the cows get the calves when the bull has done the job, but you know what I mean!).

@brian8152

2 жыл бұрын

@@andersjjensen lol

@fleebogazeezig6642

2 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of a blockier halo battle rifle

@squidy4082

2 жыл бұрын

It’s all plastic lmao

I just saw James from TFB-TV do a review of this on KZread as well. This really does seem like a good choice for those looking for a semi-affordable bullpup carbine that isn't an AUG or the MDRX, both of which fetch a pretty penny

@Fiendir

2 жыл бұрын

It's like a FAMAS, AUG and G36 had a baby. Scientists are too baffled and embarrassed to explain how it actually happened, but the end result is looking pretty neat imo

@revylagoon716

2 жыл бұрын

Except it’s got a $2200 price tag, over the aug and tavor

@ihurricane7

2 жыл бұрын

This is priced similarly to the AUG. Might be even more expensive in the short term with demand

@xm-5178

2 жыл бұрын

@@revylagoon716, that you are right. At least it isn't as expensive as the MDRX though. I priced one out with a 5.56/.223 Wylde chamber with a 20 inch barrel, FDE upper and lower, forward eject, and a BLKLB integrated bi-pod fore end and it came out to be over 3 grand so the Hellion is pocket change by comparison. I guess your paying for the American made build quality and better trigger with the MDRX but is it worth between $800 to a $1000 more for that? I'm not so sure myself but I still would love to get one

@roc00851

2 жыл бұрын

Kel TEC RDB!

This is really freaking cool. The first bullpup I’ve seen that I’ve ever actually really wanted now.

Got to play with the VHS when I was in the Navy. It's a fantastic rifle.

Captive pins? They certainly weren't captive on my service rifle. Good to see the product improvements we were the guinnea pigs for bore fruit. Wonder if they made an extended handguard for the D version

@darkogaurina4778

2 жыл бұрын

Zanimljivo, jesi imao mehaničke nišane ili

@jakovmarenic2460

2 жыл бұрын

Did you ever click those pins in and out non stop while waiting for your turn at the range

@MatoVuc

2 жыл бұрын

@@darkogaurina4778 da. Dužio sam VHS-D1 i VHS-2D, obje sa mehaničkim ciljnicima. Taman su počeli dobivati one ugrađene CT ciljnike od Ruđera, ali to je išlo prvenstveno izvićačima i probranima u regularnim desetinama, ali nisam skužio po kojoj logici

@MatoVuc

2 жыл бұрын

@@jakovmarenic2460 no, but i did place the pins in the side vent holes of the handguard during disassembly. Worked much like those holes in the G-36 stock, if a bit improvised

@darkogaurina4778

2 жыл бұрын

@@MatoVuc kako uopče izgleda desetina, mislim tko tko duži što se tiče puške i optike

Even after watching this video and realizing the VHS2 was made after Killzone, I will still always look at it like it's the Helghast rifle from those games... really excited for this one, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for the video, Ian. 👍

@angrydragon4574

2 жыл бұрын

You know what? It looks better than the Helghast rifle.

@gabenewell3955

2 жыл бұрын

@@angrydragon4574 I’m gonna have to disagree the helghast rifle has a cylindrical mag and that’s cool

@automatonm99

2 жыл бұрын

This gun is in Insurgency Sandstorm as well liked it ever since I saw it in game.

@garrickanderson4533

2 жыл бұрын

Well after that tidbit if I ever get one I'll make a plan to have Stahl Arms engraved on it

@zim3900

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I've been watching this whole video thinking that I need one because it's the closest thing I've seen to an STA-52.

HELLION, great name, and fairly easy take down for a well thought out military rifle. Thanks

The engineer that designed that ambi cam path is straight nutty.

As a big fan of this channel from Croatia, this is exciting! Predictably, I'd like to comment on the war. I would just like to say that while you could technically call it a civil war, it was more a war of independence. Yugoslavia was a socialist federation, and we wanted out in the 90s, riding the wave of downfall of communism in general, but Serbia (whose whole thing was being the main benefitor of the yugoslavia thing) didn't like the idea, hence the war, in a nutshell, from the croatian perspective. You know how these balkans nationalistic things are, I just had an itch and had to write this.

@ironwolfF1

2 жыл бұрын

My understanding is that the Serbs quietly nursed a grudge going back to WWII (held in check by Tito), where Croatians (for the most part) took the side of the Axis, _and_ that Croatia has a sizeable ethnic German population, about 1/3 iirc; the Balkans being Balkans, the Serbs took the opportunity 'settle accounts' until Germany (under Kohl) quietly sent military aid to the Croatians...who then sent the Serbs packing. Yeah, I'm simplifying things a bit, but as I understand it, the Croats always considered themselves a separate entity and almost got independence (and their own king) in the final years of the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

@WesMerc

2 жыл бұрын

@@ironwolfF1 yeah the Croats did some genociding in WW2 against the Serbs .

@dawnkeyy

2 жыл бұрын

@@ironwolfF1 Well, the devil is in the details. The nazi Croatia thing? Yeah. The numbers are debated, within an order of magnitude even. The croatian nationalists tend to lower them, the Yugoslavian government inflated them greatly. Most independent historians, as far as i know, are somewhere in the middle. Not many people know Serbia was also a nazi territory which had a Serb on top, and was one of the first territories that proudly announced it is juden-frei. Digression. The 1/3rd german ethnic population is total news to me. Could you provide me with a source for that? Also way worth mentioning croatia had antifascist partizans (Tito being a leader of the group at some point, earning his reputation). As far as the whole nazi puppet thing goes, Croatia has been under foreign rule for centuries (the austro hungarian empire, venetians, ottoman threat) then we found ourselves in Yugoslavias which were a Serbian "great Serbia" wet dream- not good for us. When we were given the opportunity to have our own country (by the nazis), a lot of people welcomed it as the coming true of a centuries long dream. Which is, in retrospect, of course, silly, since you know, the whole puppet thing. A lot of ethnic cleansing was done, general crimes against humanity. Then, yugoslavia under Tito, exploited Croatia, forcing of "brotherhood and unity", trying to create a one people out of many. That tends to breed strong nationalism which can still regrettably be found here. Tito died, things started going to shit, communism dying was trendy, "hey we'd like out"- no -war. There was a lot of Serbian propaganda directed towards the serbs living on croatian soil that this would be just like the nazi Croatia, so there was panic amongst the Serbs here, MANY of them fled to serbia, some stayed and fought. War crimes, hospital bombings, mass murder of civilians (from the serbian side, but mind you, I'm a croat so I assume there were things we did we weren't exactly taught in school). Bosnia was especially rough because there you had a third faction of muslims, mixed in with croats and serbs, and many many ugly things happened there commited by all sides. Edit: but yeah, I'm not sure about other parts of the world, but the Balkan mentality is very much that of revenue. "They massacred our people". And so it goes in circles.

@AppleCinnamonPie

2 жыл бұрын

And both Croatia and Serbia wanted a slice of Bosnia, and committed war crimes and ethnic cleansing of Bosniaks.

@dawnkeyy

2 жыл бұрын

@@AppleCinnamonPie Yea, it was ugly. But the thing also is, "bosniaks" was a new concept then. There used to be croats (and maybe serbs, idk) of muslim faith. Just as there were croats of Orthodox faith, but after the war, they are seen as serbs, and have either converted or, I don't know honestly.

possibly a must shoot gun for me, it's like a "there's everything you don't know you wanted" gun

6:42 - great moment! I've always wanted to see a live side by side lineup of a bullpup and classic rifle to see exactly what you're saving in terms of space.

that was a really slick disassembly I'm impressed

If you've ever seen Croatia's national water polo team, you'd realize the potential need for a very long length of pull 😂

@johnnybagofdoughnuts4193

2 жыл бұрын

Lol. That’s like saying “Of course the A2 stock is the right length! Have you ever seen the American gold medal winning basketball team?!”

@themeatpopsicle

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnnybagofdoughnuts4193 IT IS A JOKE ffs

@robydee920

2 жыл бұрын

@@themeatpopsicle well it shouldn't be a joke because males from Dalmatia on Croatia’s coast are currently the tallest in the world in the 18-year-old category, that is according to an extensive anthropometric survey among 1,803 young men and 782 girls in 66 schools in 23 cities, aged 17 to 20 and overall Croatian men are the 7th tallest on the planet while today the United States ranks 40th.

@johnnybagofdoughnuts4193

2 жыл бұрын

@@themeatpopsicle I can’t stop laughing

@themeatpopsicle

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnnybagofdoughnuts4193 Don't particularly care if you don't think it's funny. The joke was not for you.

Like springfield to cheese it up with a goofy name. Hopefully it will be better than the XD or saint because this looks very interesting.

@ForgottenWeapons

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I wish they would stop doing that.

@geodkyt

2 жыл бұрын

At least they trust us to know where the grip is this time...

@parsecboy4954

2 жыл бұрын

@@geodkyt But not how to actuate the back up irons 😂

@tanall5959

2 жыл бұрын

Gotta have something trademarkable, dontcha know.

@leonardwei3914

2 жыл бұрын

I always joke that they called their AR-15 line Saint because Chris on the channel Small Arms Solutions consider their M1A line a sinner.

I’ve watched several videos on this new import, and you’re the first to show its complete disassembly. Very cool! Thank you for another great video!

One of the best reviews on this weapon I've seen, especially on how to change the ejection for lefties. Thanks, just subscribed

Always a good day when I get a new forgotten weapons video notification

@option350z

2 жыл бұрын

I can confirm. Gun Jesus brings all the joy

Seen this rifle a bunch of times in combat videos in the war against ISIS in Syria and Iraq. Always wondered why they never imported them to the US, better late than never

@mikistjep

2 жыл бұрын

It's been battle tested and improved much, so you guys ger the final product. Us arms market is pretty demanding, and if it wasn't good, it wouldn't fly.

@CroHOOLIGANs

2 жыл бұрын

In Iraq it got nick name isis killer ( urban battle for Mosul) ,, that why big + 😃

I love mine. 75-250 yrds she's a beast. Happy to have a different platform to expand my versatility. Where's my 7.62 barrel kit. I'm waiting...

Ian, thank you for everything you do! I'm increasingly interested in fabrication/manufacturing, and I love learning the technical terms for things. I'm grateful that you have filled the niche we didn't know was void.

That is a truly impressive piece of design (and design of a piece). The only possible improvement I could see would be for the appropriate ejector cover to be selected by the change of cam position. That might not be feasible, but for sure somebody's going to forget to swap both parts at least once.

@tazthedevil22

2 жыл бұрын

Understandable. Luckily making this mistake is easily fixed by just popping the cheekweld up and switching the pin. Forgetting this will only result in a failure to eject malfunction that wont cause any huge problems. Off course this sucks if it happens in a firefight, but even on a m4 it's very easy to create a non functioning weapon by forgetting one important step during maintenance.

@JohnDoe-pv2iu

2 жыл бұрын

It reminds me of what Kalashnikov said to Stoner, '...you must have very intelligent soldiers...!'. That said, some soldiers would figure out how to dick-up a bow and arrow! I do like the gas system though. It's a fine weapon. The individual soldiers shouldn't need to disassemble the bolt carrier group because it keeps the gas out of the receiver. Pretty cool! Ya'll Take Care and be safe, John

@JohnDoe-pv2iu

2 жыл бұрын

Also reminds me that every time soldiers came across files in Iraq... Their M4s seemed to 'break' and the 3 shot burst position started shooting full auto... If a Soldier can screw with it, it will be screwed with... Ya'll Take Care and be safe, John

@tazthedevil22

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnDoe-pv2iu lol. Glad our "m4's" have the fun mode back instead of the burst.

@parrotraiser6541

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnDoe-pv2iu Murphy Rules!

"The Bullpup Trigger" seems to be the next mountain to climb for the design type. There are after market "Fixes" but they also seem like a repair for an item that shouldn't be marketed as a repairable of fixable product right off the shelf.

@gunfaceUK

2 жыл бұрын

Meh, I had a bullpup as my service rifle for 12 years and when I first picked up an AR I thought the trigger was a POS. A good shooter will get used to whatever weapon they run.

@garyguymon9857

2 жыл бұрын

@@gunfaceUK That's the problem - stick a rifle in the hands of a recruit and you don;t know if he's Dead Eye Dick or Sad Sack. Not everyone is a Good Shooter', it's why they invented Spray and Pray and Snipers.

@onpsxmember

2 жыл бұрын

The MDR has a decent one and just talking about the trigger, the Kel-Tec RDB shows how good a bullpup trigger can be with brains. They should have the patents for it.

@mrjockt

2 жыл бұрын

Most militaries are just happy that their bull pup rifles can hit what they aim at when used by the average soldier, their not really considered as a marksman’s weapon so a “mushy” trigger pull tends to be acceptable.

@garyguymon9857

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrjockt That's a sad commentary but probably more true than not.

Ian can’t help but get giddy when a FAMAS-like rifle comes along.

Excellent video. Just picked one up and am learning it inside and out before firing. Pairing it with a Trijicon TA31H ACOG.

“Simple can be harder than complex: You have to work hard to get your thinking clean to make it simple. But it's worth it in the end because once you get there, you can move mountains.” ~ Steve Jobs. This is simple, elegant, and has some really amazing design work in it.

Hollywood armourers should buy these in bulk, they look like the perfect futuristic weapon. Though these days it seems its really popular to show some AR15 variant still being used 50+ years into the future which, I suppose, isn't that implausible.

@bachtomin213

2 жыл бұрын

Just don't give one to Alec Baldwin.

@Treblaine

2 жыл бұрын

@@bachtomin213 I'd trust Alec Baldwin more than I'd trust Dick Cheney. No one tricked Cheney into thinking he had a safe prop gun and there's no way any actor is falling for that trick again.

@davidhoran7116

2 жыл бұрын

@@Treblaine imagine shooting your friend in the face and then getting your friend to apologize on national television for “any stress I may have caused the Cheney family”

@Treblaine

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidhoran7116 I still can't hear the Aerosmith's "Janie's got a gun" without hearing "Cheney's got a gun".

@Treblaine

2 жыл бұрын

@@kitosjek9541 The buck stops with the director. Any hiring or firing is at their behest, they have the ultimate authority on set. It was the director who checked the prop gun that the armourer brought to him. It's not like when that helicopter crashed and killed 3 people (2 of them kids) the director, John Landis, didn't mislead the helicopter pilot or explosives specialist into the danger of the situation. If he had then only John Landis would have been on trial for manslaughter.

That's a pretty cool weapon. When Ian first reviewed it, I was impressed. And now it is coming to the US for sale? I like bullpups so this is pretty cool!

Very cool video. Always informative. Nice hoodie!

Wonderful! Finally, this exists! Can't wait to see where it goes from here.

Therapist: Bullpup G36 is not real, it cant hurt you. Bullpup G36:

@ls200076

2 жыл бұрын

💦💦💦

I had forgotten all about this rifle. Great video. Thank you.

As a long time fan of the Serious Sam video games I have been well aware of the country of Croatia for many years as the developer Croteam is located there.

To the guys asking for them to be imported: you better buy it now it's here, or other cool guns will never make it!

@robertcook3004

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't know they were even thinking about importing theses. At 2k though I lean towards just getting an AUG which I've seen as low as 1700

@user-njyzcip

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertcook3004 its cool factor is waaaay higher than the AUG tho 😉 worth the 300 extra bucks to me, but I'm not in the US

@angrydragon4574

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-njyzcip Dang buddy, which country are you in?

@robertcook3004

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-njyzcip the Aug is cooler for me because I grew up with Die Hard and Counter Strike.

@ladyelect9274

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertcook3004 i saw the hellion for presale on a site marked down to around 1.6k but i cannot find in my searches :( hopefully similar markdowns are in stow though

I’m definitely interested in getting one of these. I’ve liked the rifle since I served with some Croats in Poland, but never got to play with their toys. Now I think I’ll just go pick up my own!

Thanks for showing the field strip process.

…I would like one. First pistol I ever bought (just over a year ago now) was Springfield Hellcat OSP. Everybody doubted it, but I looked into it quite a bit. Grew up in a firearm friendly family, but took my sweet time getting my license. Once we went to the range dad and my middle brother were impressed to say the least. A joy to shoot. Thank you for the spotlight on this new rifle Ian!

Everything seems really well thought out on this, I followed that field strip really easily.

Stupendous vid Ian. Very informative. I know we will eventually get these in at our store. I feel VERY confident I can provide the end user with all pertinent information on this rifle. Thank you!

@ladyelect9274

2 жыл бұрын

awesome to see a store that does all their bookwork. where are y'all located?

Some great design work here for quality of life. Line the multiple qd mounts, ambidextrous everything, the irons look solid. Trigger seems unfortunate but I'd love one of these. I'd have to train bullpup mag drills lol. Never done those. Cool video man

Very cool, can't wait to see you shoot it!

Great video Ian. I'm not usually a fan of bullpup rifles, but this looks like a very interesting design. Can't wait to see you shoot it, see how it runs. Thanks for all you do Ian. You are truly awesome.

@Hellsong89

2 жыл бұрын

My only issue with bullpups is price, the trigger feel and how well balanced the rifle is given the weight should be same or less than full length rifle. Also how much my government hates self reloading rifles and guns over all. Getting one would be huge paper hell and probably would not get it with out huge expense in time and money.

@stuartgorka989

2 жыл бұрын

If you look as his past videos, he's shot the military/police versions already with good success. Hopefully the import version does as well.

1:40 just a small correction there; it wasn't a civil war because croatia declared it's independency before the war itself and that actually (among other things) caused the war to happen Other than that great video

@johnegan7622

2 жыл бұрын

And they didn't fight Serbia. They fought the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. Serbia came much later, after the Montenegrins left.

@miljenkostipic1622

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnegan7622 yes, that's more or less correct but after croatia left sfrj serbia pretty much became the power that took over yugoslavia and it's army And again my point was only that it wasn't a civil war

@sancota1

2 жыл бұрын

Well it was a civil war, just not a *Croatian* civil war. It was Yugoslavian civil war. I know that they drill us in school and media (Ja sam isto Hrvat) the war of independence name but that is just a form of a civil war. Civil war - "a war between citizens of the same country." When the war started Yugoslavia was a internationally recognized country and Croatia was subject of the Yugoslav federal government with no sovereignty, at the conclusion of the civil war Croatia became a sovereign country. In many of it's peoples eyes Yugoslavia was illegitimate but it was a country that had power over the republics in it (till it didn't any more when the war started ofc)

@miljenkostipic1622

2 жыл бұрын

@@sancota1 I completely agree, I just didn't want to overcomplicate the whole story Bottom line is it can be called civil war in it's earliest days but the majority of time it has been led including the time that went to develop VHS rifle (the video is after all about the rifle) Croatia was an independent country

@johnegan7622

2 жыл бұрын

@@sancota1 I guessing both of you chaps are from the Balkans, so to speak. But as I remember it, pretty quickly after Croatia declared independence Germany under Helmut Kohl recognised Croatia giving it some international "legitimacy". For that reason I would call it a war of independence, similar to Ireland's War of Independence - our war was against the United Kingdom has never been described as a civil war. 'The Troubles' in Northern Ireland would be closer to a civil war.

Just purchased a Hellion. Thanks for the brake down, very helpful.

Yes! As soon as I saw the military version I instantly knew I needed this. I WANT THIS GUN!

@Magno_Money

2 жыл бұрын

Me too, damn too bad I blew all my gun money on an MP5 last month.

@theenjoyer1445

2 жыл бұрын

@@Magno_Money judging by your profile pciture im guessing you blew your money on something else

@Magno_Money

2 жыл бұрын

@@theenjoyer1445 yeah, but that came out of my ammo money lol.

@theenjoyer1445

2 жыл бұрын

@@Magno_Money gross

@Magno_Money

2 жыл бұрын

@@theenjoyer1445 JK, why would I commission something when the search bar already shows everything you want?

Damn this thing looks so sick. Thanks for showing it to us♡

I just spent this whole video going "damn that's slick and clever" again and again. I'm very interested, I need to find a range to try one.

I've wanted one of these for YEARS man

Hello from Croatia, thanks for review ❤️

It would be nice to see the APS 95, another croatian assault rifle from the 90s

@nijoe70

2 жыл бұрын

You could literally live your whole life in Croatia, serve as a conscript in Croatian army, and never see one.

@lucacrippa5237

2 жыл бұрын

@@nijoe70 I know, such a shame :'(

at first sight, I was pretty skeptical. Now I am rather impressed with this rifle

There are a lot of good ideas in this design and you can tell that they've put a lot of thought into it. Still not available in Canada, though.

It's such a lovely mix of many great guns...now I need one

This gun is gonna flop when people realize they have to rewind it everytime they're done using it.

@PresidentSkroob12345

2 жыл бұрын

Joke's on you, I still have my VHS rewinder! Be kind, rewind!

@revolution6133

2 жыл бұрын

2000$ In today’s struggling economy isn’t going to help it. Neither will steel ammo prices being nearly double of 2019.

@9x29Dillon

2 жыл бұрын

Heh

@arielvega6344

2 жыл бұрын

@@revolution6133 I'm willing to make that sacrifice for Helghan!

@unsure0fflifem913

2 жыл бұрын

Legendary comment

The second I saw someone posted a picture of this to Reddit yesterday I immediately checked inrange. Sadly nothing there yet, but I have gun Jesus to tide me over while I wait for the review!

Great review, thanks

Ever since I lost all my guns when my house burned down in 2020, I've not replaced any of them, kind of stopped caring about the whole scene. Maybe this thing is a interesting place to start over and get back into it.