“If the Bren was so good, why isn’t there a Bren 2?” The Bren 2:

@randylahey2242

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like if it’s so good then why is there a 2nd one makes a lot more sense

@moehoward01

2 жыл бұрын

@@randylahey2242 "Good" is subjective. There's always "better".

@HasvenWorld

2 жыл бұрын

Fuck I was gonna say that

@blackore64

2 жыл бұрын

Personally prefer the original over the reboot though

@jakegore8265

2 жыл бұрын

@@randylahey2242 All I’m saying is my Bren 805 worked, neither Bren 2 I had would for more than a couple rounds at a time lmao.

It was a true pleasure having you here Ian 😎

@Al-no2fm

2 жыл бұрын

pardon my ignorance. Why not use the heavier primer spring as standard? what effect does the 7.62 spring have on 5.56? also, the 6 screws to hold the barrel. Looks like they could have gotten away with 4 on reciver and almost had a freefloat barrel?

@CzechoslovakGunStories

2 жыл бұрын

@@Al-no2fm that would be a question for CZ engineers designing these rifles. I can try to ask but I know for sure all variants were extensively tested and so the solutions and differences may certainly come from this thorough testing.... :)

@PeterSikachev

Жыл бұрын

​@@Al-no2fmheavier trigger pull than could be

@sadnessinside123

8 ай бұрын

Great rifle. Another step forward in modern firearms. 🎉

@AboveGroundArmament

6 ай бұрын

We next?😮

It seems like a recurring theme on this channel that v1 of a rifle ticks all the boxes that the ordnance department wanted, then v2 gets rid of most of them to tick all the boxes the grunts wanted.

@GeorgeCowsert

Жыл бұрын

That's generally the theme with every military rifle. Militaries nowadays are too paranoid about malfunctions and durability that they wind up only considering the most impractical designs. Case in point, the FN-SCAR, which has an absolutely overweight operating rod because the US military was, and still is, paranoid about the smaller ones breaking.

@tomdog5265

Жыл бұрын

SOP

@infinitsai

8 ай бұрын

I mean you need to first convince the ones paying the bill before you can hear the ones who actually use it

CZ really knows weapon design. These are some wonderful improvments. The original Bren is a rather decent rifle, but shaving off all that weight and tons of small creature comfort changes makes this an excellent rifle.

@konstantin.v

2 жыл бұрын

No free floating barrel though 🤗

@konstantin.v

2 жыл бұрын

I stand corrected. The barrel _is_ free floating! It's just so easy to miss a small gap between the barrel and where the front bolt is screwed into 😃

@Jesses001

2 жыл бұрын

@@konstantin.v True. I did notice that. For a service rifle, I do not think that is that big of a deal. Sure it will cause some accuacy loss when the gun heats up, but within expected ranges I expect it should retain enough accuracy for the job.

@Jesses001

2 жыл бұрын

@@konstantin.v It is? I need to take a closer look it seems.

@konstantin.v

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jesses001 , watch from 15:48 to 15:54 on the slowest speed. The gap is never shown in all clarity, but I managed to capture a couple of still shots that I believe imply it very strongly 🙂

The charging handle construction is the best solution I have ever seen to the non-reciprocating charging handle situation

@henrymumford4937

2 жыл бұрын

Very similar mechanism on the ACR.

@Locutus494

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's exactly the same as the ACR. And there's probably other examples, too.

@konstantin.v

2 жыл бұрын

I was going to ask if the flimsy plastic latch was robust enough for acting as a forward assist. But then I realized that you should not beat the bolt into battery with a hammer anyway 😊

@m4tol

2 жыл бұрын

I think this is an overcomplicated, flimsy, error prone mess which makes the AR-15 charging handle design look reasonable in comparison. And that one is stupid in its own ridiculous way. Just slap a hunk of steel at the side of the bolt carrier already and be done with it ffs. Something like the optics mount screw or what that protruding thing is. This is a military weapon for crying out loud. This level of complexity and delicate engineering features is too much even for a range toy. SMH.

@konstantin.v

2 жыл бұрын

@@m4tol , that plastic piece does raise questions, I'll give you that. Maybe, they'll make it metal in Bren 3 😊 Besides that, it looks robust enough to me and a clever idea, too. Putting aside everything else, a non-reciprocating charging handle surely is a nice thing. More significant problem may be in the high placement of the charging handle. I've recently watched a video about the trials of SCAR for the US military. They were unhappy with it being a "knuckle buster". That is, whichever way you hold it, you are likely to bust your knuckles against the mounted optics 🙂

The pronounciation of Uherský Brod was smooth. Props to you gun jesus

@thegreenberretwearingbrony9678

2 жыл бұрын

@see here There's nothing here. Spam bot

@Likexner

2 жыл бұрын

@@thegreenberretwearingbrony9678 I went to report the bot for spamming and i noticed they added "untrue information" as a possible reason to report. What the hell. KZread is getting even worse with the thought policing. Can you imagine reporting someone because they said something you consider false?

@thegreenberretwearingbrony9678

2 жыл бұрын

@@Likexner I report them as well but this feels like a Don Quiote (sorry if I mistyped it) fight against a windmill

"Bren 2. This time it's payback!" "Bren 2. The breninator!" "Bren 2: The return of the Bren." "Bren 2: In space no one can hear you Bren!" "Bren 2: They should have left Bren alone..."

I have a customer that needed me to sight-in his Bren 2 at 200 yards and shoot 100 rounds through it - so I got more time under one of these than I usually get. While it may not replace the AR-15 for me, it is a great platform. All the controls and ergonomics were great, trigger was very nice, and it grouped better than most autoloaders.

@kostis2849

2 жыл бұрын

...meters. You zeroed it in meters.

@zachr1386

2 жыл бұрын

@@kostis2849 american import?

@kostis2849

2 жыл бұрын

@@zachr1386 Well sure, but do they re-calculate ballistics and re-calibrate in yards for imports?

@GrottyWanker69

2 жыл бұрын

@@kostis2849 You don't need to. This has standard AR style irons and can take any optic. It's not like the ladder sight on an AK which does use metric measurements.

@lesthodson2802

2 жыл бұрын

@@kostis2849 If someone is sighting in an optic they can sight it in in whatever units they want. Meters, yards, smoots, whatever you'd like.

I’m so happy that you made these videos on the cz brens. First rifle i ever shot was a bren 805 and first the handgun i shot was a cz 75 b so i’m always happy when you come out with cz related content.

@ff-zero2804

2 жыл бұрын

iha ok mut ootko kattonu...

@themythofthefacelessman2180

2 жыл бұрын

@@ff-zero2804 kattonu mitä?

@ff-zero2804

2 жыл бұрын

@@themythofthefacelessman2180 simpsonit sarjasta jakson himoläskihomer siinä esiintyy koko simpsonit perhe eli myös bart simpsons homer poika fanit saavat nauraa ja naurattaahan se tietty myös vaikka homerin läskikuteet ja muuut kannattaa kattoo nopee

@themythofthefacelessman2180

2 жыл бұрын

@@ff-zero2804 selkee

@Leitis_Fella

2 жыл бұрын

I should have known that username was Finnish when I first saw it

I love seeing such a well balanced rifle that gun jesus can balance it on the mag.

@wilk7255

2 жыл бұрын

That only demonstrates that the rifle is not rear heavy, the rifle could be mid-balanced or it could still be front heavy like its predecessor.

@MichaelPoage666

2 жыл бұрын

@see here stop spamming

Cool military rifle. Unfortunately I was one of the owners burned on (two) civilian 7.62 versions. 5.56 is an okay option if you need something different to an AR but near total lack of parts 3+ years in is kinda a big concern. They haven’t been able to fix the 7.62x39 reliability issues since the beginning and have quite frankly treated effected owners awfully. Would actually really love to see Ian of all people talk about the issues with the civilian model, nobody has except for MAC and he was about as helpful as you’d expect.

@ghost101049

2 жыл бұрын

Ouch. I was thinking about getting the 7.62x39 version before the curtain on ammo came down. What do you mean by "he was as helpful as you'd expect" ?

@jakegore8265

2 жыл бұрын

@@ghost101049 I won’t go as far as to accuse MAC of being a shill like many but he does often avoid criticizing products from companies he likes. While I appreciate him being the only big channel to actually mention the nonfunctional 7.62 Bren 2s, his video amounted to shooting a bunch of ammo through one gun that already worked and then concluding that many of the guns must be fine and that CZ would fix the issue. Now a few years later CZ hasn’t fixed the issue, and the lack of any real pressure from online influencers is probably a major factor in why they haven’t taken the Bren 2 problems seriously.

@BlazemanGuitarX

2 жыл бұрын

The weirdest part is it isn't even a hard fix, just needs a new gas plug. A good gunsmith can drill you a new one on the "off" setting, but then you've got 2 settings that won't function properly. Best bet is to get a new plug machined, then get said gunsmith to drill you a normal/suppressed/adverse setting port for x39. Probably a minimum of $200 for one tiny part :(

@jakegore8265

2 жыл бұрын

@@BlazemanGuitarX Amazing that independent gunsmiths have made more progress fixing a $2k gun than the manufacturer at this point. Unfortunately I have heard from some other owners that drilling the gas plug still doesn’t result in full reliability. The use of 5.56 parts on the 7.62 civilian Bren 2 causes a ton of problems….

@forrest225

2 жыл бұрын

@@jakegore8265 CZ is great at releasing a cool product and then doing almost nothing to support it. I love my scorpion but damn, CZ is something else.

These rifles are soo smooth even right out of the box. Too bad the 7.62 variant has extractor breakage issues though

@donovanchilton5817

2 жыл бұрын

X39. They've always had issues. I dont know if they've been worked out by now, I just sold mine for a 5.56 variant.

@jakegore8265

2 жыл бұрын

@@donovanchilton5817 They haven’t fixed anything at all and are still dragging their feet really badly on refunding effected owners. Anyone who’s actually gotten a refund has had to bother them regularly. CZ customer service has been an absolute nightmare for people with broken 7.62 Bren 2s.

@mattfleming86

2 жыл бұрын

@@jakegore8265 That's sad because I REALLY like CZ and REALLY wanted to get a 2 (specifically once someone worked out a 6.5 production gun, so same bolt face) Maybe one day. Are the parts still impossible to order for at-home repairs?

@jakegore8265

2 жыл бұрын

@@mattfleming86 Yessir they are! So honestly even with all the cool features the 5.56 guns are difficult to recommend for any serious role. I was a total CZ fanboy before my Bren 2 experience and wanted to love the platform, but goddamn they burned me bad on two broken x39s. Sold the guns while being honest about the issues, but I lost a ton on ammo and accessories.

@charleslowrey9309

2 жыл бұрын

On my second x39. 1st one started stove piping @ 300 rounds of brass ammo. Got about 300 rnds of steel cased through the second one with no issues. Got the HB gas spring, but still skeptical. I wouldn't trust my life on it functioning when needed.

The twisty flash hider is a little bit of a disappointment to me. I want my rifle to double as a tuning fork.

@khaelamensha3624

2 жыл бұрын

To load your coil gun? 😇😁😉🤣

@SpaceCoyote308

2 жыл бұрын

The twist makes a neat ninja star pattern when shot in the dark. I think that's the real reason they changed them 😉

@juhokuusisto9339

2 жыл бұрын

Just use your Parabellum P08.

@johnanonomous238

Жыл бұрын

You can always change it out,but why it works as it should..

@Olivier-cr8ri

Жыл бұрын

Parfaitement adapté pour évacuer les gaz de propulsion qui tournoient avec les rayures du canon. Sans cela le projectile est légèrement déséquilibré.

I’m glad CZ keeps up with the “magazine tool” disassemble from the CZ75 and probably before. Keep up the tradition CZ.

I still hope with NGSW coming to end. I hope Ian does a video on the history of attempts to replace the M16/M4 system.

That gun is a piece of beauty. Incredibly precise, despite being so light. So much fun to shoot. Mine is 14" barrel in 7.62x39.

6:03 AMONGUS ON THE BREN 2 MAG!!

@adiamond563

3 күн бұрын

FUCK YOU NOW I CANT UNSEE IT.

Looks like a cross between a Scar-L and a HK-416 They do say cross-breeds tend to have better handling!

@notthestatusquo7683

2 жыл бұрын

I'm getting lots of G36 vibes

@Locutus494

2 жыл бұрын

@@notthestatusquo7683 Other than also being based on an AR-18 operating system, it really has no resemblance to the G36. The G36's real distinctive feature is its all polymer receiver, with the barrel & trunnion directly embedded into the polymer.

@OverCAT83

2 жыл бұрын

@@Locutus494 put a carry handle on it and it might look like the g36

@thesaddestdude3575

2 жыл бұрын

@@Locutus494 Oh yeah? my AR is based on Linux operating system!

@louisbeerreviews8964

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not

This gun would be SUCH a natural conversion platform for 6.5 Grendel. It would give it more of the "battle" rifle ability in a great size/weight package. Or 6mm ARC depending on it's future production stability. That chunky bolt face would potentially solve the biggest detriment of those calibers in AR-15 pattern guns. Anyone making conversion kits? (from match grade blanks?)

@JMiskovsky

2 жыл бұрын

Sadly CEO of CZUB was against more calibers non standard in world. Personally spoke with him.

@wraithwyvern528

2 жыл бұрын

It would probably be easier just to buy a 5.56 barrel and rebore it

@cm-pr2ys

2 жыл бұрын

Off topic but I wish the ngsw would be chambered in 6.5 grendel or 6mm arc.

@ChristopherGoggans

2 жыл бұрын

@@cm-pr2ys considering they've already decided to go with the 6.8mm round and they're actively fielding test units, I think you're out of luck. Unless you're hoping the OEM decides to make a different model in 6 arc or 6 grendel?

@johnanonomous238

Жыл бұрын

Why NOT make the conversion kits in 6mm arc or .300blk,if you make them WE WILL BUY! Bushmaster PROMISED cal conversions for their ACR, VAPOR WARE!

I've got CZ weapons from the last world war, and throughout, and this is one of the most incredible, modern designs in the world. I've long admired their engineering, and this is certainly the pinnacle, thanks for the expose, very well done.

That bolt handle lock is nothing short of brilliant!

I love my CZ-75B pistol, and now I want one of these. Big thanks to CZ for giving you access to show us this cool stuff!

Kinda neat the Hungary adopted this rifle (along with the CZ P-09, P-07 and the EVO Skorpion) and we're also licensed manufacturers.

@Brokkolesz

2 жыл бұрын

It's a shame that (as is Hungarian tradition) we bought cheap shitty magazines that jam all the fucking time and the grippod is overpriced, heavy and cumbersome. Oh, and optics are like never issued. Shame. The P-09 holsters are pretty shitty too.

@-Seeker-

2 жыл бұрын

@@Brokkolesz We got grip pods? The absolute meme grips? LUL

@Brokkolesz

2 жыл бұрын

@@-Seeker- yeah. I removed mine asap

@-Seeker-

2 жыл бұрын

@@Brokkolesz Someone at HDF fell for the meme... OMG...

I LOVE LOVE LOVE your videos. Great sound quality. Very thoughful angles used, everything visible and clean. Tone of your voice calm, yet not boring. Information and context you provide is second to none. And as a Czech myself, I congratulate you on perfect pronounciation of Uherský Brod. From 200 years old revolver to coil rifle of tomorrow, as long as you make a video about it, I need to learn about it :D

It's cool to see this sort of modern weapon and the take people have on it when making it. Thanks!

The Bren 2 does have different sizes for the back strap. I just ordered the medium sized and changed it out recently. I have the 762x39 version of the gun. And I have to say that this gun bump fires like a dream. It was the second time I ever tried bumping and I was able to unload a full mag from the shoulder without hiccups on the first try. If you have a x39 version of the gun and have the issues with over gassing, you can replace the gas regulator with a 556 gas regulator and it will function much better. I did that with mine and also put in the HB industries high load piston spring and it now shoots amazingly smooth. It might be my softest shooting firearm now. It does make subsonic rounds less likely to cycle the action, but you can either turn up the gas or just use the original piston spring. I never had issues with over gassing, but I only put maybe 150 rounds through it before getting the new regulator. I heard about the issues online and decided to nip it in the bud.

Great video, love it when companies let you come check out their modern designs. As someone interested in firearms engineering, these videos are fascinating.

Perfect video for the Valentine day!!! Love this rifle, one of my favorites at all!

For those who own these and fire them often, I've got a few questions to you. It is our issued rifle in the Hungarian Defense Forces, but there are tons of malfunctions. -Double or triple feed /with the original CZ mags/, -Ejection issues when the ejected case just turn sideways and smash the ejection cut-out bending the receiver or just turning all the way backwards and loading a round under it making a juicy double feed -Iron chipping off from the little iron claw /donno the correct term/ that holds the bolt in it's place (The edges of it sheering down). -And also the cleaning kit of it /we recieved it with a metal wire in plaszoc as a cleaning rod, and it often just break when u clean the barrel/ Have you noticed anything similar? /Ejection issues also can be caused by the shitty ammo, but with good gradw rounds also had multiple double feeds, and I mean when it is not handled by an idiot who gently try to pull the charging handle/

@SpaceCoyote308

2 жыл бұрын

Are y'all issued 5.56mm or 7.62x39 version? The 7.62x39 versions that have been imported to USA have been plagued by various issues that seem to stem from being over-gassed. Some people have even had a gunsmith drill out a new (smaller) hole in the gas regulator at the 0/Off setting and that seems to fix most of them. However 5.56mm versions have a good reputation for reliability among American shooters.

@tremmelistvan788

2 жыл бұрын

@@SpaceCoyote308 Well, that's interesting, because most of the issues here are with the 5.56. I have not heard a lot about the 7.62 having malfunctions here tbh but those are pretty rare, not many units recieved them. Here the problems are mostly the material /On paper we buy the parts feom the Czech Republic and assemble them here/ so it can also be the govt. cheap out on material or ammo🤔 Ohhh and forgot the funniest thing. You can't load 30 rounds into the 30 round magazine, because it always falls out, it doesn't catch the mags

@SpaceCoyote308

2 жыл бұрын

@@tremmelistvan788 It sounds like it could be an issue with the mags what with the double and triple feeds. It's not too unusual for the last few rounds to be hard to load especially with new mags. My 16" Bren 2 carbine actually shipped with d&h brand aluminum mags not the plastic CZ mags. I've only ever shot it using Magpul Pmags or Aluminum GI mags. High quality AR15 mags are cheap and readily available in USA so that could account for why American shooters don't seem to be having issues with the 5.56mm. It would be worth checking one of the CZ forums to see if anybody else is having trouble with the CZ mags.

@tremmelistvan788

2 жыл бұрын

On behalf of the Magazines, we have 2 seperate one, (CZ mags are the better ones, so we mostly use those). The original CZ /stamped aluminium or other metal like the original M16 had/ and an Israeli? maybe plastic, which causes way more problems and also, all of them is brand new (2 alu CZ mag and 3 plastic is issued, all the same) . But the hard part is we have no access to other magazines here, only if you are deployed and buy them in a base from the american soldiers (or from someone for like 50-100 dollars each). But this definitely looks like the source of the problem. On the cleaning rod, we also have the 2 piece rod, but was told to use the metal cord thing insted, to avoid damaging the barrel. (we also swithced to the metal one, works fine or just use an old AK one that is just one piece and do not need to disassemble it) And for the rest, so it seems like we are sort of right, the materials are a bit off probably, I donno if it is a good or bad news that these are recurring issues in most part of the world. I'll try to look up a few forums in connection with this, thank you guys

@MarkyMan316

2 жыл бұрын

The only issues I've had are with ZSR 5.56 ammo in the 11" and 8" models (I was using factory mags). Failure to fire and stovepipes. Otherwise all barrel lengths have run fine with other ammo.

"Bren 2: Electric boogaloo" "Bren 2: Escape TO stanag-13" "Bren 2: Ambidextrous?!? I hardly knew her!"

Absolutely brilliant. This video really stimulated my mechanical mind.

I've been waiting for this video since I've discovered this chanel. Thank you!

Oh wow that disassembly is actually pretty slick!

Thank you Ian. This is a very likeable infantry rifle

The universal disassembly tool! It's been so long! Glad to see you still have some of the new production run :D

Watching this before getting my civ version in .223, the disassembly was really detailed, you have my thumbs up.

I wish CZ would sell the caliber conversion kits in the US. I guess I have of the few 7.62x39 models that doesn't have issues, but being able to switch over to 5.56 would be great.

You can see at 18:26 why the new trigger assembly is so much lighter. The old design has an insert with metal plates that support all the pins. The new design has the pins supported by just the polymer. No doubt saves a lot of weight, but I wonder if it loses any durability.

@brunol-p_g8800

Жыл бұрын

It not only loses durability, but taking out the 2 round bursts has proven to be a no no for militaries looking at it :/ 2 or 3 round burst is the most used mode of firing in high density combat, and the best way to shoot the accurate numbers of rounds you want to in full auto.

@dwaneanderson8039

Жыл бұрын

@@brunol-p_g8800 There's quite a bit of disagreement about that. The US Army standard M4A1 doesn't have a burst mechanism. The Army decided they didn't want it anymore. Most US soldiers seem to agree with this decision, as they prefer having full auto instead.

This is a perfect example of what firearms manufacturers should strive to do with their creations. This gun is great. Very smart and thoughtful engineering clearly went into this.

Ian, again, I appreciate your gun nerditude! And I appreciate your insightfullness on the subject. And as a fellow Phoenician I salute you, gigitty!

Gun Jesus returns from the future to bring us another excellent gun.

14:40 "You can't pull the trigger fast enough to duplicate full auto" Challenge accepted.

You rock guys at forgotten weapons thanks Ian

Always wanted one of these, I’m glad you did a video in it!

There is another potential upside to its name. If they ever update it, it can be the Bren2 2. Then they can stamp an image of a ballerina wearing a TUTU. Thanks, thanks. I'll be here all week.

@khaelamensha3624

2 жыл бұрын

Takes me a few seconds... Thanks for the laugh! 😉 Take care!

I actually bought a replacement grip back-strap from CZ's website... so they do make them. They're usually out of stock though.

@_r.t-

2 жыл бұрын

Are there different variations though or is it just a replacement for the original

Thank you CZ an thank you Gun Jesus Jesus for showing us this terrific piece of weapons engineering.

I recently bought the 9 in pistol variant in 39 that I plan on converting to a SBR. I love everything about it, so much so that I've ordered the Carbine. CZ really knocked it out of the park with this one. Bravo CZ!

I want this in 7.62x39. 14.5" barrel with a P/W QD suppressor adapter for legality, and the gas cutoff to keep the sound signature down. I have a CZ527 in 7.62x39 that is lots of fun to shoot subsonic loads out of, as well as surprisingly precise.

Wanted one of these guns for a long time as a cheap piston gun, so cool and excellent content

@yong7801

2 жыл бұрын

Is it really a cheap piston gun?

Wow, i really like this design! Great video! I want one! So well thought out and beautiful

not only this format video is so informative for gun lover/enthusiast but also very useful for a 3D artist.

Bren 2: Historic Boogaloo

Honestly, I feel like the reason they put that mounting piece for the stock on the original Bren was so that one could install adapters to accept different types of stocks (buffer tube stocks?). With v2 they just made a proper stock.

@Locutus494

2 жыл бұрын

They could have done that, but it was just a plastic rail, not a Picatinny rail.

@pcarrierorange

2 жыл бұрын

Or so you can pop the stock off entirely without opening the back of the gun to debris. It’s a bit redundant when you can already fold it though, obviously.

really slick rifle that shows CZ's knack for design. i really like the trigger guard bolt release/hold open

Had an opportunity to handle one of these at IDEX last year. Feels fantastic to hold and was surprisingly light. Looking forward to seeing this tested on the range.👍

The Bren 2 rifle (5.56) I had was a lemon. FTF all the time. Changed mags, ammo, gas settings and nothing worked. Double and triple checked gas system and piston assembly and nothing worked. Fortunately the LGS is cool and took it back. Traded it for a Galil Ace Gen 2. I really really wanted to own a Bren. Maybe I’ll give it another try.

@jakegore8265

2 жыл бұрын

I thought like you. Then my second Bren was also a lemon lmao.

Forgotten Weapons: "You can't pull the trigger fast enough to duplicate full auto where it can become an issue." Jerry Miculek: "Am I a joke to you?"

@TheTaffy2499

2 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad I'm not the only one thinking the same thing :)

Really envy you on this one, Ian. Visiting CZ is definitely on my bucket list.

This was a really good video. Not just because of the gun.But rather, it highlights where this channel is right now. I think all of Ian's videos are good. Even the long intro way back when videos. The format works. Yes the video equipment is better now, but he format hasn't changed. The way he goes through the weapon and breaks it down hasn't changed. I'm sure there are some video's he wants to redo, but, from what Ian has said, it seems it is more about the example of gun he had at his disposal more than anything to do with quality or format. I love new videos. I watch everything. But I also use it like a reference library. Whenever I see a gun on TV in a documentary or a new show and I want to know more, I can use FW to look it up. I do that a lot. Thats why the integrity of the archive is important. I think they are so good that WIKIpedia should allow editors to embed his videos on to there wiki pages - That would make finding a video so much easier - because for all its fault, wikipedia has excellent Search Engine Optimisation. So looking up the gun and having Ian's video right there would be helpful - perhaps this is what the FW website will be one day. Search optimisation on and off the site will be important. As will hyperlinks through a gun's family tree and similar firearms from competitors. WIKIpedia is good at that bit and I think its why Google search engine likes it so much.

That looks like a really well thought out rifle, with an *excellent* disassembly system (which, for a military weapon, is rather more important than many folks think). The caliber conversion setup is also pretty slick - changes what needs to change (although I'd like to see the extractor claw on the 7.62x39mm bolt; milspec steel case 7.62x39mm sometimes needs some oomph to extract when the gun is fouled, and a massive claw helps), and *only* what needs to be changed... and it all looks fairly straight forward (didn't show it, but that hammer spring looks like a captive unit that is probably easier to swap than your typical mousetrap springs). A handful of things where I wonder if they will be problems in the field over the long term: 1. The plastic widget connecting the charging handle to the bolt. Really cool idea mechanically, but I wonder if aluminum might not have been a better choice for long term wear, without adding significant weight. 2. The locking hook on the bolt group looks a skosh small - I wonder how it will hold up without wearing or peening too smooth after tens of thousands of cycles of the bolt group - PVT Snuffy is probably going to be yanking that handle 1000 times in drill practice or dry firing for every round (blank or live) he actually fires. Lot of wear... (that applies to the plastic widget, too). 3. Not a fan of open prong flashiders (yes, they're more effective than closed birdcages, but also more susceptible to damage and gathering crap in the field). But that's not only an *easy* and cheap fix, but you could look at others and redesign the existing flash hider to add a shallow groove right near the end, and twist stainless steel wire in there - minimal effect on the flash suppressor's function (the loss of effectiveness from wire like that is *barely* distinguishable within the limits of measurement, yet it both reinforces the prongs from being bent out, it also blocks weeds and crap from snagging). All pretty minor gripes - two of which are entirely conjecture (time will tell), and *none* of which are "deal killers" nor terribly expensive or difficult fixes if they do turn out to be problems. Every gun has flaws, and everything is a compromise - CZ seems to have done a damned fine balancing act here. And without excessive weight.

@panman1964

2 жыл бұрын

wonder if that flash hider has sharp edges so it can double up as a barbed wire cutter?

@geodkyt

2 жыл бұрын

@@panman1964 usually, when a flash hider has wirecutting incorporated in it as a plan, you just have a pair of notches (like on a bird cage flash hider on an HK G3) to grab the barbed wire or slide the barbed wire down the spaces between the prongs. Then you twist the rifle to tension the wire and pull the trigger. If you look at the original AUG flash hider (a prong type), and view some.of the post-factory modifications some.forces did by adding wire as I described, you'll realize they still retained that wire cutting capability. As for assuming "knife edges" on the inside of the prongs sharp enough to cut wire... no, just no. Even if you were strong enough (you aren't, unless you have green skin, purple stretchy pants, and a serious anger issue 😁 ), *and* you remembered to turn the correct direction (lest you simply unscrew your muzzle device from the barrel), it still takes longer than the "cut it with a bullet method". Cutting wire with the flash suppressor is never a primary means of cutting wire, and isn't something you do if you need to be quiet - you call up a guy with a pair of wirecutters (or even a Leatherman) on him. Or, for many armies, you have *literally anyone with a bayonet* use the wirecutter incorporated in your bayonet & scabbard. The idea of using the muzzle.of your rifle to cut wire is for when you need to cut wire quick and dirty, without time to go get tools out (like during an assault into a prepared position). Barbed wire is, after all, *steel* . You're not cutting it without some major mechanical advantage.

@Locutus494

2 жыл бұрын

Regarding #2, I don't think the carrier hits the plastic piece of the carrier assembly when it goes into battery. I would think it would be obvious to the engineers to make the handle assembly, when it's locked in its rest position, have JUST a tiny gap between it and the surface of the bolt carrier that it acts upon. In other words, when the bolt carrier stops its forward movement against the trunnion and the plastic handle assembly piece is fully latched in its forward position, there should be the tiniest of gaps between the two so that the carrier doesn't beat up the plastic handle assembly.

@geodkyt

2 жыл бұрын

@@Locutus494 I'm not worried about damage from impact on closing - like you, I have full faith in the Czech engineers' abilities to dimension parts and compare numbers on the drawings. But that doesn't eliminate the wear amd stress on a small contact area the charging handle is interacting with. Nor does it address the effects of friction over years of hard service. Just working the parts -even if you don't ever let them slam - is going to put stress on them and cause wear. Not knowing the physical characteristics of the material in question, I can't know for sure - but I cannot imagine it's more wear and stress resistant than anodized aluminum.

Bro, I've been enamored with the Bren series since they were in trials to replace the VZ-58. I snagged one of the first ones in the state in FDE with an SB brace. While I still loved it, there were some problems I wish had been fixed before coming to market. The weight was a bit cumbersome and that reciprocating charging handle was very unforgiving. But when I saw the addendum (the Bren 2) model, I immediately went to work trying to procure one. They were hard to come by for a while so I put it on the back burner and sold/traded some stuff for funds. When I finally got one, I got the 8.26" 5.56 model and then a slew of upgrades. With a folded brace, this thing is probably the best EDC backpack gun. I know, I know...5.56 is shit with an 8" barrel. But this is clearly a CQC type weapon and projectiles are basically still at muzzle velocity. I absolutely love the Bren series so this one won't be leaving any time soon

I want one. The ease of disassembly and swapping calibers. Definitely next on my buy list.

Smooth like butter, very pleasant to shooting it.

I love the 805 Bren because of it's looks, but damn if I've ever held a more comfortable rifle than a Bren 2 with an mlok handguard.

Jsem z Česka a vždy když Ian natočí video o českých zbraních jsem nesmírně hrdý

@henry3457

Жыл бұрын

Zdravíme do České republiky ze Spojených států. Vaše zbraně se nám líbí, posílejte nám je prosím dál.

@Bse140

8 ай бұрын

Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦

This iteration of the CZ Bren looks quite slick and well thought out.

I am always amazed at how these things work.

Has CZ been able to build a reference collection of WW2 and pre-WW2 weapons? I imagine rebuilding after the Second World War was difficult.

@warel5730

2 жыл бұрын

Most of it has been stolen by the Soviets probably, as they were the army to "liberate" Uherský Brod at the end of the war.

@fanta4897

2 жыл бұрын

Czechoslovakia probably had it easiest when it came to rebuilding. Although the crucial factories and the like were bombed as usual, Czechoslovakia saw very little fighting on its' territory and allies were little hesitant to bomb occupied country so late in the war. If I'm not mistaken, we were actually the only country under Third Reich that had growing economy until the end of the war.

@DOMINIK99013

2 жыл бұрын

Most prototypes exist in the state military museum from various weapons factories throughout Czechoslovakia, including some designs by Czech designers before 1918 and several German prototypes, some prototypes were probably used by the Germans, such as the ZK 391 rifle for Italian tests, which Ian has a video and who were captured by the Americans, lost were ZK 420 and ZK 423, hard to say whether the Soviets or the Germans or the Partisans. Today's CZ has only prototypes after 1989

@MarvinCZ

2 жыл бұрын

There is a very good military history museum in Prague with many weapons, including obscrure ones and prototypes. Ian is aware of it and he'll probably get there at some point.

@ondrejsedlar7003

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, CZ only came to be in 1936 if Im not mistaken, so they wouldnt have a lot of pre-WW2 stuff, most of the development before that was done in ZB.

I almost think it's weird that everyone is going back to 3-prong flash hiders. The US did that almost 60 years ago, but went away from that since they catch leaves and sticks in them when going through heavy brush.

@Evarakeus

2 жыл бұрын

Not a lot of brush in the desert, I guess. Will be interesting to see if potential European conflict causes all the hip new NATO toys to go back to bird cages

@Kizzy_in_the_sea

2 жыл бұрын

Bird cage style flash hiders tend to last longer when used with BFA's. The British one has a tendency to be screwed down overly tight by enthusiastic squaddies and the prongs opened up.

@CalzaTheFox

2 жыл бұрын

Depending on the design they can also be prone to breakage as well, which a typical bird cage is not. The twisted three prong should have better resiliency though.

Great video, very useful information and better field strip instruction. Thanks bro!

Ian " can't pull the trigger fast enough to duplicate full auto" Jerry Charles Miculek Jr " am I a joke to you?"

I always wanted one, but this sealed it for me. I'm going to get one.

I love my Bren 2, such a good underrated weapon.

Excellent as always

Im loving the amount of Czech weapon vids lately

@JE-ed6te

2 жыл бұрын

This 👍🏻

Sweet looking rifle! However, I've never been a fan of controls located inside the trigger guard. Too easy to make a mistake in a high-stress situation - especially when wearing thick winter gloves. I'm sure it can be mitigated with practice/training.

@DOMINIK99013

2 жыл бұрын

The thing is not easy, so I would not be afraid of it, moreover, it can be dismantled

@longrangeirons2524

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve had mine for a few years and train with it a lot and even with gloves I’ve never had anything happen. The controls are very well placed so you have to deliberately reach for them. As a lefty I use the bolt release in the trigger guard and there’s a good amount of downward force you have to place on it to get it to release. And there’s enough upward travel needed to get the bolt to hold open that it’s again very deliberate to make it work. And I have pretty big hands if so when gloved i use a lot of real estate In the guard

@MarvinCZ

2 жыл бұрын

Nobody forces you to use those controls, there's also the paddle.

@charlesm.2756

2 жыл бұрын

My comment is more geared towards accidentally pushing on the bolt catch in a high-stress situation...which is not an unrealistic possibility. I'm saying this from personal experience. Your body does all kinds of twitchy things when you're in a combat environment. It would not be good to lock your bolt to the rear when your actively trying fire rounds in a hostile situation - more probable if you're wearing thick gloves. Nor would I want someone's finger in the trigger guard if they're trying to clear the rifle by locking the bolt to the rear. Sure, you don't have to use it, but people will anyway if the option exists. As I said, I'm sure it could be addressed through training/practice. Nonetheless, It's a pretty cool looking rifle and I'd love to shoot it.

@MarvinCZ

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlesm.2756 That actually seems like a very unrealistic possibility to me. If you manage to push against the upper front corner of the trigger guard while simuntaneously pressing the trigger, you're doing something extremely weird. There's plenty of room in there, even for gloves. You'd have to be shoving several fingers into the trigger guard or something crazy like that.

Thank you , Ian . 🐺

Once again another stealth French gun video from Ian. =)

10:06 Here begins several minutes of the best design I have ever seen. I kept thinking to myself over and over again, "wow, that makes so much sense, anyone could disassemble this."

A Firearm? How quaint

Seems like one of the best and most complete rifles in current active service. CZ know how the manufacturer firearms

A great video ian it's wash my soul and brain to see this gun in detail and it's blood lineage a great rifle thanks CZ for your creativity to bring this top notch platform to the gun world it's serve in our special forces here in Egypt 🇪🇬🇪🇬 thanks 🙏 gun Jesus your fellow from Cairo.

Were you able to ask them why their 7.62 variant for the US market is so unreliable? It baffles me, because their Mil-spec one is supposedly flawless, and I really want one!

@hcpookie

2 жыл бұрын

Its that civilian bolt, resulting in a "too-light" assembly that immediately causes the over-gassing issue. Solution would be to add extra weight to the civ bolt, or replace w/ a military bolt assembly. The current solutions involve reducing the gas port to limit gas delivery to the piston via a new gas block with a smaller orifice.

Let's hear why the charging handle being available to move the bolt into battery on this weapon is somehow "good" or "OK", but the forward assist on an AR is still never to be used.

Great detail in the video, thank you!

The charging handle/ bolt carrier design is genius. Non recipricating, can be used as a forward assist. Perfect.

When I saw the 805 on CZ USA's webpage, I wanted one. The problem was, I immediately hit the KZread looking for reviewer videos for it, and that's when I learned the BREN 2 was in development. So, I waited to see what the changes were, if the MSRP would drop, and I still want one! I live in a stupid state, with stupid laws, and they made it more difficult to obtain semi-auto everything (commie bastards), so I'm still wanting one... eventually, eventually. Because I love CZ's, I found this deep dive into the internals of the BREN 2 very satisfying, and I am constantly blown away by the innovation and engineering expertise this company brings.

Some really impressive industrial design in that piece. It would be nice if it was carried over into civilian (non-firearm) products. Czechs have a remarkable engineering tradition that survived German occupation and Soviet corruption; there must be an intersting history behind it.

Awesome video series at the CZ factory. Looking at the muzzle devices I'd love to see an overview of different muzzle attachments like flash hiders, to compensators and suppressors much like the 'How it works' series.

Wow this gun is technologically amazing! It just checks all the boxes of good things. Right-Left Convertible (hybrid reciprocating?) charging handle, fully ambidextrous and ergonomic controls, adjustable gas system, STANAG slide-in style magazines, 2 piece receiver, picatinny top rail, etc! Idk about the soft factors, like trigger pull, precision, durability, etc, but the hard factors are fantastic! To go on a quick rant, when I tell AK fanboys that the AK is outdated, this is what I mean. All this vs right hand charging handle, weird un-ergonomic safety, rock-in magazines, many non-replaceable parts, optic mounting headaches, self-destructing front trunnions, overgassed non-adjustable gas system, wasteful bolt lug design, and especially the high cost you have to pay ($1,000+) to get one that definitely won't break or explode from bad headspacing after 2,000 rounds. Whereas a fancy Bren 2 ranges from $1,500 to $2,000, or a great quality AR is about the same as a decent AK, somewhere around $1,000. A modernized AK that's actually good to me, would end up just being a rip-off of the SCAR-L and Bren 2.

I love my Bren 2 but I have to question the bolt hold/bolt release design inside the trigger guard. As a Lefty it's not very useful for me and it's an ND risk. Also just like the 805 it appears CZ still doesn't dehorn their aluminum parts after machining. The rails are SHARP and will definitely cut you up if you don't have a glove on. I eventually swapped those parts out for HBI stuff which has been excellent.

@CxOrillion

2 жыл бұрын

It's don't think it's an ND risk. You can still drop the bolt with the charging handle. Just don't use that lever unless you're already aiming in a safe direction. You shouldn't be dropping your bolt ever except pointed in a safe direction anyway. Use the other features of the rifle. If it's an ND risk, then it's only because your behavior is risky.

@Locutus494

2 жыл бұрын

It is not an ND risk! It is not the same as the Magpul BAD lever (not that I agree with Ian and Karl about that being a bad design). The ACR has nearly an identical bolt catch/release, and that was no issue. And why would it be any different for a lefty to use? The whole idea with it being center mounted like that is that it works exactly the same way for a righty or lefty. Or do you just mean that the AR style bolt catch release is actually easier to use as a lefty, meaning you have less need for an ambi lever?

@n9necrypt777

2 жыл бұрын

I'm a lefty and think its great you would have to be a complete moron to yank the trigger.

I would like to see this compared to an Robison Arms XCR (since you have experience with the CZ, the ACR, and SCAR already) to get your take on a 2022 “winner”.....

@jakegore8265

2 жыл бұрын

As far as I know the SCAR and XCR actually work in all their calibers and have available spare parts so it’s a pretty easy choice lol

@mathewr5941

2 жыл бұрын

@@jakegore8265 Good luck getting parts from FN for the SCAR. They don't sell spares, period. They do, on occasion, send parts to MGW, but you'll be waiting a long time. I needed a plastic case deflector. It's a $5.00 part. FN said sorry wait on MGW. Called Bob over there, said he hadn't had any for over a year. Need a part for your CZ Bren 2? Go to the CZ USA Webstore and order what you need. If it's out of stock, sign up for the notification. CZ has always had a good supply of parts here in the US for their products. Do a search on their webstore for "Bren 2". You'll see page after page of spares. As far as parts for an XCR? It's taking them 12+ months just to ship guns out, let alone spare parts.

@jakegore8265

2 жыл бұрын

@@mathewr5941 Google “SCAR parts” and “XCR parts” as opposed to “Bren 2 parts” and let us know what you see more in stock availability for right now. CZ has done a handful of drops for basic Bren 2 spare parts but they’re sporadic and don’t include everything owners are asking for, ordering from the EU has been the only semi reliable way to get spares for a long time now.

@mathewr5941

2 жыл бұрын

@@jakegore8265 I wasn't talking about aftermarket SCAR parts. OEM factory parts, as well as OEM factory XCR parts are sparse. I've never had a problem getting Bren parts from CZ. Sure, not everything is always in stock, but, out of the 100 spare Bren 2 parts that they list, the majority of the time they are available. I wouldn't have three boxes of spares if that wasn't the case.

@jakegore8265

2 жыл бұрын

@@mathewr5941 Damn I guess all of us in Bren 2 owner’s groups who’ve been waiting months at a time to even find spare magazines or handguard screws must’ve been checking the wrong CZ webstore or something for the past few years!

Great modular revision, impressive

Really cool. Thanks Ian

Dumb question: why "Bren" of all names? That name is taken and there is no mechanical relation.

While you're there can you ask them when the .308 version is gonna be available in America? So cool that they let you film there

@jugganaut33

2 жыл бұрын

The recoil energy for 5.56 is 4.7 joules. The recoil energy for 7.62 is 16.8 joules. None of the components in the Bren 2 are suitable for 7.62x51.

@DOMINIK99013

2 жыл бұрын

@@jugganaut33 BREN 2 in 308 exist and work well

@SpaceCoyote308

2 жыл бұрын

@@jugganaut33 They've had 7.62x51 version available for several years now in Europe. You can find them on CZUB website.

@KylesCustoms

2 жыл бұрын

@@jugganaut33 it's called the bren 2 br, Mr. Math guy

@MarvinCZ

2 жыл бұрын

@@jugganaut33 There is a 7.62x51 variant of the Bren 2. It's a more distinct variant, obviously more substantially different than the caliber swap shown here. It's the Bren 2 BR.

Such a beautiful rifle

Thanks, very informative and learned a lot.

It looks like a SCAR-L.

@sgtMoore-ug5ue

2 жыл бұрын

Same quality as a Scar, and cheaper, both in light, heavy, DMR a PDW variants.