Good Afternoon Dan, If the INDUSTRY has a problem with pack weighers than the INDUSTRY should plead to the card manufacturer's to SOMEHOW ASSURE that the packs that leave the printer are of equal weight. Just for the SAKE OF CLARITY, I have never weighted a: PACK, ANY SORT OF INDUSTRY "RETAIL BOX" OR CASE. Thank you.

@Ecohoneybear

Ай бұрын

They are starting to do this. Have you noticed the hits in bowman and Topps platinum anniversary? They are thinner than they used to be. They are no thicker than a chrome now. Target just put up a sign in some of their stores banning pack weighers if they are caught.

I would feel shame and a failure as a human if I got caught doing this. Yet again, the hobby is full of people trying to get the edge and I guess being a scumball is ok now.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

It’s just so childish

@asylum9644

Ай бұрын

I agree.. it really is, and embarrassing.

@imperfectgamer54

Ай бұрын

Sad thing is some KZreadrs do it too. Loot Box use to have a video showing them having packs in a store weighted before buying them.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

@@imperfectgamer54 lol really? Is it still up? I mean we all feel for the luck pack when grabbing one but that’s very different to weighing packs or digging nails in to see which one has a thick card

@imperfectgamer54

Ай бұрын

@DanTheCardMan2 Yeah, they were buying Pokémon packs, and the store clerk weighted up the packs for them. In the comment section, someone questioned them about weighting packs, and they replied they had been doing it for years.

Only thing that weighed in 1978 was our pockets full of coins heading to the grocery store when word spread that baseball cards were in the checkout stand!

Too bad here in LA I can’t even buy from retail stores…

@iheartpsylocke

Ай бұрын

Everything is gone the second its put on the shelves, bought up by the same 5 people, smh

@tsiqueido

Ай бұрын

Here in The Valley, idiots just stole the product...that's what a Target mgr told me for why they don't stock sportscards anymore. 🤷‍♂️👍

I agree with you, this is shady. Personally I don’t buy from places like this that have cards sitting out for anyone to rummage through, I always just assume some douche has already gone through the packs. With the lack of quality people in this hobby now days, I trust very few people in this hobby

@johnnylv5452

Ай бұрын

💯 Agree!!!

I always just go and tell loss prevention they are weighing the packs to find the ones with no security tags and putting them in their pockets. It’s fun to watch them try to talk their way out of it.

@will-grier-investor

Ай бұрын

Hey you almost got me arrested...I mean, what a clever idea

@bryankahtava3773

Ай бұрын

@@will-grier-investor seriously it’s amazing to watch a grown man squirm knowing he is in trouble.

@johnwayne9828

Ай бұрын

​@@bryankahtava3773not really in trouble.......you're falsely accusing them of theft.

@williampotts7205

Ай бұрын

Everyone tries to justify their bad behavior. Any way they can. Justify their actions

Confronted a guy years ago (WalMart) that was bragging about buying a 'new car' with the money he makes from weighing packs. Eventually managers and loss prevention were there. I just asked one thing to the manager. "Would you let people weigh scratch offs, if they knew they were winners because of the weight?" They will kick people out weighing packs with a scale, but they can't always be watching. It's a grey legal area to be sure. But it's obviously not right, and we all know it.

Well said! Illegal no. It's a humanity issue. It is like hoarding all the toilet paper or snow crabs on the buffet line and you take the whole tray. Some people just suck Cheers.

This is nothing new. As long as theres been guys selling "guarantee jersey pack", which is way before covid, theres been people who weigh packs. Id say theres way bigger problems right now in the hobby, like card soaking and loaded boxes. And lets be honest, the dude groping packs was cringe, but the karen who filmed and posted it online is cringe too. You werent off base though, fair points.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Thanks mate

I'm with you Dan. If this was a "hobby" like it was years ago and not the big business it has become, things wouldn't be so cutthroat and scandalous. How times have changed. Morality and ethics have gone down the toilet. Just my opinion. Thanks for sharing this topic. I believe Neo was in the wrong also. Ethics

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

We have seen people do this for decades, it was just a lot more frowned upon back then. Damn shame

He's not just weighing He's feeling the pack too!

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

He needs to take it on a date after all that 😂

Yep, I remember the amount of times I went to my local card store when I was a young kid who could only afford a pack or two . Only years was I told how the guys were pulling out all the “hits” (sure , not everything but most were easy) before they sold single packs from open boxes

In the mid to late 1990's I spent my Sunday afternoons at the card store stall of a permanent flea market in a small township in Ohio. The stall owner would always have the hits to sell me. I learned that he was buying from "feelers." Gjys who could riff there way through a recently opened box and within seconds they could detect the packs with hits in them. I felt a little guilty buying from him after that, knowing these fellas were leaving behind the dregs.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Annoying isn’t it

Yeah I’m not cool with this. Hobby First! Keep up the good work Dan!

It’s poor play, but not illegal. Card companies should weigh the packs to make them the same weight.

They bring scales to the Target near my house. Luckily for them, Target's manager told me - and this is a quote - "We make no money off the cards, so we don't pay attention to that." That's the Target on 857 Baltimore Pike in Springfield, PA if anyone is wondering. Literally, "we make no money off the cards". You'll see people open packs and just go through them while employees are standing around talking. More Downtowns have been pulled out of that place than anywhere I know. 😞😞

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

I assume it’s a loss leader for them. A shame they don’t care though

@Matt_237

Ай бұрын

@DanTheCardMan2 Yep. It's a loss bc they don't care.

You are spot on with your thoughts and assessment of this. This kind of thing is completely unacceptable and a total scum bag thing to do. Anyone that thinks this is ok needs to have their head checked. They are probably of the same mind set that if you steal and don’t get caught then it’s ok. People in this hobby seem to have lost their moral compass.

I think this is a result of manufacturers raising prices of retail 50%-75%. Walmart blasters used to cost 19.99, now they’re 34.97. We’re over here calling bottom of the barrel collectors scumbags, meanwhile top execs and panini and Topps are shopping for yachts and sleeping on 50,000 thread count Egyptian cotton. These companies could easily make weighing packs and searching packs impossible, but they don’t. We continuously see value packs with see-through white color, and chrome autographs replacing base paper cards in bowman. They care about one thing: sell as much product as possible while keeping margins as high as possible. They don’t care about the retail collectors, as long as they buy the product that’s all that matters.

It’s a hobby, it needs a hard reset, but people are looking for any way to make quick bucks. My wife tells me about people taking all of the clearance stuff at target and charging retail online. So it’s a greed issue. It’s not illegal

Your right. All this bad behavior hurts the hobby, When I go to Walgreens they have almost everything locked up in a showcase. It’s guys like this that cause them to do that. Gotta wait for an associate to open the case. It all comes down to respect, like you say, and morals. When I think of a kid not getting that iconic pull that may have kept him or her in to cards for a lifetime it breaks my heart.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

A lot of people are saying kids don’t buy packs these days. They might be right but it still doesn’t make this ok

I bet he's a hobby positivity kinda guy.

I agree I don’t think this man deserves to be shamed across the internet for this , pack weighing has been going on for years and a lot of these companies have done very little to combat that

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

very fair mate

Retail got me into the hobby. At the time I'd never been into a card shop before. I just bought some football packs bc i wanted some Jerry Rice cards. Second trip there a got some basketball packs and got a pack with some awesome cards in it. I was hooked from there. Later found out the pack was called a Hot Pack, with a nice MJ in it too and 30 years later i still have the cards from that pack.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

That is awesome!

The real weirdos are the guys who creepily feel up packs.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

I’m sure that’s going on here too lol

They really need to balance the weight in packs and boxes, I would never buy a single pack though lol. Weighing boxes is even a bigger problem, these days you almost have to buy a sealed case to insure you are being treated fairly. On target video as always Dan!

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Thanks mate

Weighing packs is the same as bending packs .. fishing for information without breaking the seal, its unethical if customers are not informed that a box has been searched by such a person and you are subsequently buying a pack that will not have a hit .. however if people open packs in front of the owner of the shop than he can see the hits as they come and open remaining packs if no hits show up for most of a box that has a guarantee .. unfortunately, buying a pack of cards out of a half opened box is generally a bad idea

I remember seeing this done in my lcs by the owner 30 years ago

This is the worst. People in TCG always do that.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Pokemon TCG have done great work with the reverse holos, it makes it harder but still not fullproof

Is there a link to actually watch this video? I'd like to view it and hear it.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Sorry forgot to attach it, I’ll do it later today when back home. In meantime, just check out coach koe on IG

Taking my son to a card shop today. A first for both of us

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

That’s awesome mate, he’ll remember this for the rest of his life

I remember seeing a guy doing the same thing at a Target store back in 2018. I was like , what is he doing. I was just getting back to collecting again. So, I was new to the game, I guess 🤷🏽‍♂️🤔

Weighs packs and pack searching screws with the odds off pulling hits. Would you go to a casino and play games that were rigged?

This is on the card companies to fix and make impossible.

I know off a few Breakers in Australia that do it, check the weights for personals and give those boxes to there mates. Fricking BS imo, takes away the luck part of it Degens and nothing more

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Wow! Name and shame mate, happy to put them on blast

This has gone on in pokemon since they came out almost 30 years ago.

Lol. If this was a dealer weighing packs before they put a box out for sale, people would lose thier minds. Is this ok? No it's not. I have no idea how it vould be viewed as anything else.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Completely agree

I weigh boxes and packs at home. Heavier ones typically suck the most. Lol.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

😅

If people earned their money through hard work they would feel much better about themselves. There seems to be more and more lost people these days

Amd if it panini etc cared like you say, theyde put spacers etc in. But they dont, because they dont

@jasonfuller2734

Ай бұрын

You know everything kid, we get it.

The manufacturers could stop this with added inserts to throw off the weight of packs so no one is sure if the heavier ones have hits or inserts. Problem solved in 1 easy step! Easily fixed by the Companies but again, they could not care less.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

They’ve tried and failed. Pokémon has done a good job

@imperfectgamer54

Ай бұрын

They use to put dummy cards in packs to throw them off.

It's more about the ecomony now than it is about the hobby. The demand for product is slipping more every day. The vast majority of individuals are flat broke and up to their eye balls in debt. The pandemic and sky rocketing demand for cards brought out all the grifters, who, at every turn, looked to fleece the hobby from those who were flush with cash. Now, those days are gone, never to return, and the last of these unscrupulous characters are attempting one last gasp at trying to turn a quick buck. There's no doubt these bad actors are the bottom of the barrel, but I'm fairly certain the majority of them have already moved on to the next port of call, knowing that the fire here has all but gone out. Keep up the good work, Dan!

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Thanks mate. I am still of the belief that we haven’t seen the bottom yet. Like you said, I think many are over leveraged and there is a stack of losses not yet realised

Hopefully anyone doing this weighing crap is buying packs with security tags and blank filler cards only.

This crap is why I try to buy boxes directly from the manufacturer.

Is it unethical? Sure. Is it illegal? Probably not. What about all the loaded boxes that top breakers and individuals get with the best hits inside on a much larger scale? Nothing seems to change in that regard, but people still keep on buying new product.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

I covered this in the video

@TimDavis-td2go

Ай бұрын

@@DanTheCardMan2 The guy being caught weighing packs is such small potatoes. You have to start at the at top with individuals getting the load boxes from the card companies and keep exposing them. Also stop or limit buying these products and hurt their bottom line.

I think it takes the "high" out of opening packs..

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Defeats the purpose of

This has been around forever, only works with retail. Pokemon is the only company that's found a perfect way to prevent this, but you'll never stop it with sportscards. Retail sports is worthless trash where it's case hit or bust, unless panini and topps find a way to make every single pack weigh the same, it won't stop.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

The reverse holo have helped a lot. I wonder what topps can do to prevent thsi

thats why i buy singles,thanks for the video

This isn’t the only place it happens. An LCS will do similar things with open product & just act as if they don’t have any sealed boxes in stock. They have high rollers come in & buy up packs until the hits are gone & then rob the other customers KNOWING the rich guy just walked out with every hit in the boxes. My most “joy” ever felt from this hobby was watching the looks on two faces guilty of doing this for years & being sad I pulled a Jordan Auto/Jsy out of the shop. Both the owner & customer looked at me like I was the biggest dirtbag they ever seen. Why, am I not spending my money in this hobby too?! But because the shop owner never hit “his” Jordan & his favorite little pack ripper didn’t either, I was the bad guy. It was a years old pull at the time & they still had the most disdain for me being the one to get the card. Fun hobby 🕸🤣🕸

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Yep, breakers do this too with remaining boxes once case hit is found

@gregggyf

Ай бұрын

Good Morning, I have a question about this part of your sentence - "& then rob the other customers KNOWING the rich guy just walked out with every hit in the boxes." My question to you is.... what is the store owner SUPPOSED to do with the remaining unopened packs of cards? Thank you.

@Airspider23

Ай бұрын

@@gregggyf not act completely clueless to what’s left inside…if you seen what I seen I don’t think you would question anything other than the shop. This guy lets a Dairy Farmer come in & rip packs, just rip & hold wrappers all over the store in every box until the hits are all gone & then they settle up at the end like a beer tab. That’s pretty unfair to everyone else who shops there. I was never told “hey, if you wanna just keep opening up product until you find the good stuff & then pay me later, that’s fine” but the other guy does this once a week. His bad habits extend to his Comics business as other collectors have brought him up to me in the comics community on KZread & I kind of guess off the bat who they are talking about & it’s pretty obviously that shop. It’s not really about what he does with his left over packs too me, it is the horrible businessman he is. If you have a Pullbox with his shop you better get there to get your books at 10am on Wednesday because he is letting every other sub customer go through the box unwatched & they will take every hot book out of other peoples subs. I called out this practice & why the sub box was even on the counter to allow this & was told the other guys don’t just go through every book in the box like I WATCHED them do. A person like him shouldn’t have such an effect on both hobbies, but he does. With not many choices locally, you’re forced online which isn’t a thing I care for.

@gregggyf

Ай бұрын

@@Airspider23 I hope to not seem insensitive to this situation, but I guess that there ARE AT LEAST two approaches to being a card/hobby shop. First approach,... as long as I get my product sold I am happy. I am sure that the store owner doesn't care that the farmer is ripping as many packs as he wants.... as long as he definitely settles up at the end of his visit is quite fine, even if that means that he stops until the case hits are found. A second approach could be to parcel a set amount of packs to each customer. I guess that the second approach can be done as long as the product that is sold is a hot product whereby the product will most probably be sold. Now that I think about it, the second approach would be more "hobby friendly." I guess a store owner should have a sign displayed stating "in black and white" the pack distribution policy of the store going forward. With regards to comic book orderings, what is a pullbox? Could a pullbox be a box "set aside for me" that has the comic books that I have ordered for the week/bi-weekly/month? If so, then my order SHOULD NOT BE ACCESSED by any other customer. Is it possible that this customer is going through my pullbox to extract the best conditioned comic books? OR possibly to extract comic books that the person didn't think of to order? If this is the case, it goes without saying that an order to purchase an item is AN AGREEMENT between the customer and the store. The customer's order should be filled and if it cannot then the store owner should have to explain why the order could not be filled. Now of course the store owner could very easily say that the reason such and such comic book is not in your order is because the store's allotted amount WAS SHORT. Thank you.

@Airspider23

Ай бұрын

@@gregggyf You pretty much understand the entire situation the way you explained how you took what I said. But keep in mind, the card stuff was happening in 2006-07 & is much different these days due to product prices & the difference in the popularity in breaking etc…the situation I was speaking about was well before the new hobby boom. I would show up to the store & generally only buy sealed boxes. But that wasn’t always an option. The day I showed up & seen the guy just leaving wrappers everywhere & the owner walking behind him tallying it all up, was an eye opener. The Pullbox with comics is exactly what you described. People know the box is going to be on the counter because the same owner & the young girls he hires can’t be bothered with comics. When you complain your books are gone they will play the “ohhh we were shorted” game & it is simply being dishonest. I can’t count the amount of times I seen the box gone through by the customer in front of me. If you say anything tensions flare & it becomes confrontational like dogs with food because everyone wants to flip the hot book they JUST heard about online. I didn’t take what you said to be anything other than a question & just think we should all be aware of the odd things that happen to us as collectors so we all have an idea of what to look out for 🕸✌️🕸

glad to see target enforcing pack weighers to be banned from store if caught

Sum of the Walmart's in my city have there cards locked up because of scammers and mostly theft.

Stuff is marked down already for 1 and 2 panini rips us off all the time.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

I understand that but don't think two wrongs make a right. People can do what they want though.

@jcbuckeye

Ай бұрын

@DanTheCardMan2 mj holdings is just going to repack the garbage that doesn't sell in a "repack" product with a slim to no chance at anything

He could of just bought the whole box..with the money.. that he spent on that scale!..

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

😂

I buy a lot of retail and l wouldnt do this. Honestly its kind of pathetic. I also strongly believe in karma.

Just take all the product and weight it on the produce scale

This behavior is brutal but has been here, is here, and will be here forever. People are selling you fake/altered collectibles all the time, and as mentioned, I'll never forget the images of Filthbomb ripping '24 S1 like a robotic labor camp for people paying way too much for a shot at a base veteran egg taco parallel (not shot at filthbomb, it was just a perfect summation). Find your niche in this hobby, block out the noise, be the type of collector/dealer you wish to see in the space, and always be aware of the scumbaggery and ridiculousness. You can't do anything about it, but you can navigate it with awareness and intelligence. Always give newbies the straight dope, don't sugarcoat anything, you want them to stick around for the sake of your beloved hobby and/or business. Good on ya Card Man Dan

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Thanks mate, appreciate the comment and that’s some sound advice.

Just saw your video and haven't read the comments yet. I support weighing retail packs at a walmart or target as the odds are so crazy low that you are never likely to hit an auto otherwise. A lot of time, there aren't any at the stores. I also subscribe to the fact that a lot of people do it, which makes it even less likely there are hits at the store. You are literally playing a fair game against people who have an advantage. It's an unfair game. You have to fight fire with fire. Now having said that, if I go to my local LCS that I know has integrity and doesn't allow people to weigh cards and sells hobby packs, I will play fair with others. I absolutely support it when honest people in the hobby do it as well with packs that are much more expensive. We have a community at my LCS, and we want to encourage everyone to have a fair chance to pull a great hit whenever we buy a pack. That includes kids and adults. This is something that is available to everyone because the weighers can be stopped by the LCS owner. That's my opinion on two separate situations with retail and hobby packs. I subscribed to your channel!

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Honestly I see it as two wrongs don’t make a right. Eventually somewhere down the chain an average bloke is the one to pay. Corporations get away with it

@Pokeball01

Ай бұрын

@@DanTheCardMan2 I agree, and it would be nice to put preventable measures in place to stop something like this. For me, I will never know if an act of good faith will result in an average person getting a hit from a retail pack. Odds are it won't. I'd rather it be me than a weigher or pack searcher. The bottom line is if you don't do it at a Wal-Mart or Target these days, you aren't hitting anything unless 100% of the time that specific store has all the cards behind the counter. I will do good deeds in the environment I can control though. In my LCS, I have helped a boy and girl that were new to the hobby get some base cards of their favorite team from a box I bought. I've also seen 3 different times during trade night where a new person (2 kids and one adult) bought a pack and got a hit, and that invested them into card collecting. I will also be willing to buy people packs they want in exchange for cards they have if I want to add them to my collection if they want to take a risk. This is what I can control. You can't control people at Wal-Mart and Target.

What are fillers for then? I thought that was a way to stop this?

@DanTheCardMan2

14 күн бұрын

They help but still ways around it

I don't entirely agree or disagree with your perspective. I think people are simply using an advantage given by the manufacturers. The real solution lies in calling on manufacturers to package their products in a way that makes weighing packs ineffective. They could include hits in both heavier and lighter packs, thus removing the advantage.Even if we all agree that weighing packs is bad and people stop doing it in public, we're kidding ourselves if we think it won't continue. Retail employees and hobby shop owners can do it when no one is watching. So, if we want the most fair opportunity for everyone, it really needs to be up to the manufacturers to ensure this.Additionally, what if someone could tell the difference in pack weight without using a scale? Would that still be considered unfair? Is it just the use of the scale that's the problem? At the end of the day, we need manufacturers to ensure a fair opportunity for everyone by removing this loophole.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Appreciate the detailed comment donate. It will no doubt continue like you said

It's bad enough the people stocking the shelf ripping you off then you got people wanting to weigh packs and rip you off I don't even buy from Walmart f*** Walmart

Isnt most retail under lock and key nowaday

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Depends on the city.

and whoever defends or thinks this type of behaviour of weighing packs is perfectly fine, is a person who is completely ignorant of what the hobby should be about or simply is just a person who can´t tell right from wrong.

What's with the finger nail marks all over the packs?.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Pack searchers lol

I might be more upset if he wasn’t weighing discounted prizm baseball fat packs lmao

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

😂

Better to just steal the packs lol. Then all you're "fucking over" is some rich CEO instead of kids.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

😅😅

If a grown, employed adult isn't willing to put forth the money for a hobby box that guarantees autos/relics and is instead weighing single packs in a big box store hoping to get a "hit", then that adult has the mental acuity of a child and should choose a new hobby to get involved in. Whether it be a single pack or full hobby box, you don't know what sort of "hits' that you're going to get so to put all that effort into trying to trick the system on a $20 (or less) purchase is pretty pitiful. As for the guy that was sitting on the floor with crap spread out everywhere, I think that I would have just hit him with my shopping cart or (accidentally) spilled my coffee on him. 😁

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

😂😂, he is barefoot too!

It's completely selfish and greedy. He probably used his grandmother's handicapped parking card to park in the handicap spots too.

@chuckcaswell2472

Ай бұрын

Rationalizing or blaming others (manufacturers) for one's bad behavior doesn't make it right. I think this is what Wander Franco thought too.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

In all honesty I feel like half the people just don’t even stop and realise what they’re doing.

How is this wrong if what NEO c&c did is ok? This is my point, you can't say this is wrong unless you call out all wrong. This is wrong ethically and morally. Not illegal. What neo did was illegal... misleading PSA, wire fraud,, etc... where do you draw the line of what is wrong or scamish or scumbags in the hobby? Shouldn't all be called out, even NEO? because it's all wrong or it's all ok. Jmo

@JeezyKeen

Ай бұрын

neo also admitted to buying kurts card care. “just to see what it was”

@vintagesportsshack

Ай бұрын

@@JeezyKeen that's what I'm saying... no hate towards dan, but what's the definition of scumbag?

@JeezyKeen

Ай бұрын

@@vintagesportsshack dans a great dude. i dont even know what all neo did as far as psa and all. but when i called for kurt card cares client list, and the influencers to be exposed, he quickly had a reason for purchasing for “research”. yeah….cuz he had to pay $50 to smell the polish and spray? everyone can tell whats in the kit without purchasing it.

@jasonfuller2734

Ай бұрын

Neo will defend PSA and CGC at every turn. Why? To protect his investments. It’s kind of pathetic and sad. He is the type of guy where if PSA damaged a bunch of his cards, he would still submit cards to them and lick their boots.

@JeezyKeen

Ай бұрын

@@jasonfuller2734 well thats what chasing cardboard did with the whole rock auto fiasco. they were anti psa hardcore. then all of a sudden they send THAT to psa, get it back within 3 weeks, and magically its authenticated. and they havent used psa since. hmmmmm

You can weigh out kabooms

one of the scummiest practices out there

Hey Dan.. I couldn’t agree with ya more!!! I’m one of those single fathers that works 70+ hrs a week and when I can finally get a chance to spend with my 12 year old son who just starting card collecting last year. I just can’t afford to get him hobby cards a lot. But I remember how excited he was to get a relic card finally and I work love to see that again!!!! The card was worth 2 bux but his excitement was priceless!!!! Just sux knowing that it ppl are out here like this just to do crap like this for a 2 dollar card!!! What’s even worse is explaining to him that unfortunately there are ppl like this in the world and to keep expectations low just to not get frustrated with the hobby. Anyhoo u have earned a sub from us and can’t wait to catch up and see new vids from ya!!! Hope everyone has a great day today!!! Well my lunch break is almost over.. til me time my friend!!!

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

That’s a memory you’ll both have forever. Keep doing your best mate, all that matters is

This is is such a scumbag move. The retail stuff is geared towards kids and this is not okay. When this behavior is normalized it makes me happy that I just collect what I want and don't pay too much attention to the jags in this space. I hate even calling it a hobby, Its a retail interest/addiction that grownups have ruined for generations. If I saw this guy I would drag him out of the store.

I think if you can take the time Todo this go for it. Untill the owners of the shop ban it then thaw are doing nothing wrong... I used to watch this channel till every episode become negative.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

It ain’t negative mate, calling out bad behaviour is a good thing and people come here to see exactly that.

@robertsaunders9008

Ай бұрын

@@DanTheCardMan2 I understand what your saying. But how would you stop this.i think it's different if the store was weighing packs and taking them packs from fresh boxers.. Like hot wheels people will check packs for SSP cars is this clased as scamming?

I think this is dodgy and I don’t think it is something that should be done. On the other hand, I think the store selling the product should take some consideration of what is going on and step up the security measures also. If they saw a person sitting in the store and sitting there weighing packs of cards and they just let it happen, then basically all the scum bags in the industry will do it. Even though I think it’s a bad thing in the hobby, because it shows the lack of integrity of the person, honestly if I saw someone doing it in person I would probably laugh. It reminds me of that scene in the movie “clerks” when the cashier is talking to his friend watching an old lady sit on the floor and pull out every single jug of milk thinking that they will find a magical jug of milk with an expiry date that is way farther in the future than the other jugs of milk 🤦😂. On the other hand, I think maybe upper deck is the only manufacturer that I know of that randomly inserts a thick card stock with an advertisement on it to keep it so that people cannot do this. It’s just that simple and the manufacturer can easily do this but as you said, retail sales is not the money maker for the manufacturer, so to spend the extra few cents per 100 packs to do it like upper deck is not a concern. In conclusion stores and manufacturers could easily make this go by the way side and with the value of cards that you usually get in retail is usually quite low, so people who are doing this at that level is more sad than anything else. But people will do anything they can get away with and that is what is bothersome. If they are doing this, then they are probably doing other things that are more likely fraudulent. I say it is sad because I am also a cd and vinyl record collector and 2 thrift stores sell cds for 25 cents each and you would be surprised how many times I find a cd I’d like and open it up to find out the condition and it’s empty . Wtf 🤬 people are putting multiple cds in one case to save 25 cents. It’s wrong but it’s sad that people have no integrity to the point of weighing card packs to try to find a card that is more likely than not, going to turn out to be a common price wise and in the other scenario, are such a scammer mentality that they will add 1,2 or maybe 3 extra cds to not have to pay the extra 25 cents per cd🤯. It just blows my mind that people even have not just these thoughts come into their head but just the volume of people who take it further than that and actually act on it.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Haha love the clerks reference!

subscribers count 6.66 lmfao

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Haha spooky 👻

SO this is really interesting. How different is this than going to the grocery store and opening a carton of eggs to make sure none of the eggs are broken. I also think that if the card companies are going to create product imbalances because of weight and someone realizes that there is a profit opportunity as the result of having more better information, go for it. In essence, the imbalance of information is how EVERY company on Wall-Street tries to make money is taking advance of information imbalances and exploiting it. What this person is doing is the same thing Wall-Street does every day - and the government has legalized exploitation of information. So why can't the Average Joe do the same thing and not be condemned for it - what he's doing is more visible than what Wall Street does is the only reason this is being called out. Now having said that, I agree that what's going on is bad for the Hobby and can push neophytes out but don't blame the guy(s) doing it at Target, blame the companies for making card production so profit oriented.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Not sure that’s a like for like example. Anyone can open the box and look with their eyes. It’s also an inherent thing that people do/check. Packs you need a scale and it’s not something people think about needing to do

@phillipmcdoniel2236

Ай бұрын

@@DanTheCardMan2 What's the difference? So if everyone brought a scale to Target to check boxes, what then...?

Ive been weighing packs since 2019, and i still don't know how much a Will Grier card weighs! 😢😢😢

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

They weigh nothing because they don’t exist. Geoff bought them all already

Everyone that says they’re in the hobby for the LOVE, is a liar. Everyone is in the hobby for the money and the gamble. 99% are adults collecting and like I said it’s all about the money. Stop crying

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

lol speak for yourself brotha

@johnsonrobert101

Ай бұрын

@@DanTheCardMan2 sure buddy lmao. I don’t think in all my years of SC collecting I’ve seen a kid buying cards at a store. It’s grown men buying them for the gamble and to make money. You have rookie cards going for stupid crazy prices and they haven’t even won a superbowl or a ring, all because the hobby is changed. Anyone that says they’re in the hobby for the love of it, is a liar. It’s the dollars and dollars.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

@@johnsonrobert101​​⁠i buy to collect mate, I ain’t looking to am make money. There are plenty like me

@johnsonrobert101

Ай бұрын

@@DanTheCardMan2 alright than sell me some low numbered and low pop slabs for $20. Your videos are contradicting your statements, stop.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

@@johnsonrobert101 what are you on about mate? I said I ain’t here to make money, I buy to collect. Some people like cards, you’re aware of that right?

Who is ok with it? Who is justifying this? You keep mentioning these BLANKET statements. That is the worst part of the hobby. People making content and lumping in this vast majority without any substance. So many great people in the hobby and because those don't get the clicks, doesn't mean they aren't out here.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Blanket statements? Did you listen to the comments I referenced? There are dozens and dozens of them on that video I didn’t even talk about. Go read blowout or reddit. 100s saying this is ok lol

@TheCardDeal

Ай бұрын

@@DanTheCardMan2 Right 100s, magnifying those loud noise makers. Yet millions of collectors and you have zero stats on that. Definition by example on a blanket statement. You didn't ask me, or the hundreds of people that subscribe to me. Or the thousands of people I follow and people that follow them. This is the EXACT same as those short news clips where it starts off....."A new study shows eating dark chocolate and a glass of wine before bed can be good for your health". Yet you come to find out that polled 100 people at some college university as the case study.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

@@TheCardDeal you said the same thing about comments towards people being comfortable with card cleaning and then Kurt comes out and says he has 20-40k kits sold (may have even been customers). I understand social media is often a loud minority but it’s also a good reflection of how the common people feel.

@TheCardDeal

Ай бұрын

@@DanTheCardMan2 Right but still hundreds or 20,000 isn't the whole hobby is all I am saying. I personally know some people with collections valued at more than anything I will ever own and have never been on KZread for card content, but I value any opinion by an experienced collector. Reality is no one online would ever know about that. I know your content is to shed light on the scammers and garbage which is great, I just wish the good stuff in the hobby got as much attention, if not more.

@imperfectgamer54

Ай бұрын

It's ok with Loot Box TV. They had a video of them doing it in a card shop. Said it was ok to do when commented on it. I unsubscribied and never watched another of their videos.

Who cares if he weighed the packs. If he wants to waste his time for the chance of some worthless relic, then I say have at it! If i saw someone weighing the packs, I would shake my head and utter "moron" under my breath.

This guys a fucking genius. Fuck what others think. Things are way more expensive now. If you can get an advantage, take it. Let others sook. That's the difference between people who get ahead and people who sit and complain

@jasonfuller2734

Ай бұрын

Ok kid. Is there a new Andrew Tate video out for you to watch?

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Sad position to take mate. Keep everything focused inwards you’ll have no one left to play