That's too much work for panini. I'll never buy panini products

It’s my opinion that any jerseys worn in a significant match are going into private collections vs being cut up for cards otherwise they would indicate the date, the reason they don’t is likely do to them being bottom of the barrel so to speak

I agree with you but because it doesn't make them any more money, they won't care. Transparency should matter also. Much like Fanatics, everything counts in large amounts to quote Depeche Mode. There should also be mandatory print runs from card manufacturers. It's a monopoly.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

It’s definitely a sad reality

Something that almost brings your idea together is…. The card will say game or match worn/used…. And it will also state that it’s ’guaranteed by Panini’. Wouldn’t take much more to retroactively release the information for those older sets. Otherwise, it’s not a ‘guarantee’, it’s a ‘trust us’, and those are two different things. Also, as mentioned by another below, the MLB Authentication on select product (Topps Tribute - Stamp of Approval) shows that active dynamic authentication IS doable. So even if you use multiple jerseys across a specific card (like… 2 jerseys on a player’s card for one set with a 199 print run), you can still isolate THAT swatch to THAT game.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

It would create so much more buzz around product imo. I hope they do it but won't be holding my breath.

I'm a huge fan of Panini Obsidian & Immaculate and Topps Museum Collection. It's been a long time now since I've opened a box of any of those due to the insulting patches that they put in the cards. I was never happy about "player worn" but when they began putting in the "non-associated" pieces of s--t. For the box price to remain the same or even go up BUT introducing those worthless patches is really insulting to buyers & collectors. Those type sets should have nothing less than game worn jerseys included in the release. 🤨⚽

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Completely agree! Absolute farce

I like the idea, but unless it will make them more coin these companies are unlikely to do it voluntarily. What would be ideal is if the major sporting codes put something in their respective licences that mandated some sort of minimum standards for memorabilia cards

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Yep, really good shout. The debut patches are essentially this but it would be awesome to see it for all relics

One of my favorite products is Topps Tribute. I buy singles from that product all the time because they have MLB authenticated gear in those cards. They sell criminally low - like $8 for a Yordan Alvarez patch card from a jersey he wore in 2022 when Houston won the World Series. Being able to look up the sticker on MLB and see what games it was worn in is unreal to me.

@DanTheCardMan2

29 күн бұрын

That’s awesome. I think people have just been conditioned to ignore the patches cause they generally non-associated. They don’t even think to pay attention to them anymore

There a few people in the hobby that have good ideas, but the companies wont ever listen to the consumer, it really is what it is.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Too many people have proven that they will throw money at trash product. Unfortunate.

They should do that but they won't. Fanatics does it with their Topps Now relic cards. It's a cool feature. Panini should sell Donruss to Fanatics so we can have both Topps and Donruss to rip like the old days.

Great idea I've often wondered why they all don't do this with supposedly game used memorabilia cards. It would add so much value as well. Imagine how cool it would be to see what game a bat relic came from or a jersey or cleat card. I have tons of jersey cards and bat cards and would love to know what game it was from. Topps has very few you can track the game. They have a sticker on them you can scan or something and it tells you the game info.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

The thing is, I don’t think it’s actually all that difficult to do. The market has simply been conditioned to feel it’s not something they need

I actually prefer photoshoot jerseys as it’s assumed it’s the one in the photo featured on the card.. which is to say at least the narrative is real, however I also heard players can just wear a bunch of jerseys at those photoshoots to effectively creating a larger pool of material to expand the production runs ..

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Yeah there is videos iirc showing guys just wear things for a few seconds lol

They probably don't do it because most of the jersey pieces come from gift shop jerseys

So long as the sports leagues keep allowing one company to have a monopoly on sports cards, collectors are pretty much screwed! Those who think a Fanatics monopoly will be better than a Panini monopoly are simply fooling themselves!

To my knowledge any game worn jersey that gets sold is noted to what game it came from etc... to implement wouldn't take overly much more work.... Just a commitment that they need to realise is what collectors want. I know of some Basketball PC player collectors who are not interested in memorabilia cards that are not associated with anything...

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Non associated cards should be non associated with the hobby 😂

@zacrazyone

Ай бұрын

@@DanTheCardMan2 F them off right out of existence....

If Panini wants to be valued in the future...they are going to have to mix it up. I like the idea

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Ps, the fishing video I recorded couldn’t be used, camera captured everything but my fish and cards 😂

@mikehamm007

Ай бұрын

@@DanTheCardMan2 yeah I saw your response to that. Just curious to see how you'll be doing it. I almost did a video opening up a blaster while fishing this weekend but I was with my daughter with live bait and there's no time to open the damn cards. LOL

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

@@mikehamm007 I’ll be fishing with soft plastics the next time round so hands will be clean. Will wear a chest mount this time. Should have something out in the next few weeks

It SHOULD make them money. You'd think that specific game worm jerseys would command a higher rate and increase demand, but it doesn't actually seem like it does. My desire for non game worn patches is zero, cause it almost seems like it's a lie. Might as well just have non player signed autos.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

It’s because so many don’t actually care about cards and they’re just flipped between flippers

I agree. However, I doubt fantastics will sell them the jerseys lol.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Panini already has a stockpile and there is plenty of jerseys only partially used

You can do that with a company making 100 cards, but not 100,000 cards.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Maybe I’m giving them too much credit for the amount of due diligence and documentation they’d have done

Topps already has stamp of approval

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Not for everything unfortunately

They could, and should, but they won't.

Panini doesnt get game worn they get player worn. No way will get a official at a game to authenticate to much overhead.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

They still have game used relics unused.

It's completely OVER for Panini once their licenses FINALLY run out. Think about it. They allowed their soccer license to be lost in Europe, despite having originated there with soccer stickers! They pocketed all the money that they made with 10+ years of exclusivity and didn't even have enough left to save soccer. They've been beaten into submission.

Panini is running on borrowed time. Once the licensing deal ends, they'lll fade away.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

It’s a shame. They’re horrible but we need competition imo

@TimDavis-td2go

Ай бұрын

@@DanTheCardMan2 Absolutely need competition. I collected vintage baseball and when Topps was the only game in town for all those years and quality control was not high on the list. Especially with centering.

with every card should come a story otherwise ya collecting cardboard not sports cards.

@DanTheCardMan2

Ай бұрын

Agree

@napost6191

Ай бұрын

Then the cards will be pamphlets not cards. And paying min wage people to cut up material and keeping accurate records impossible.

@philmark2296

Ай бұрын

@@napost6191 you didn't get what I meant. Meaning say for example a card of Maradona from 86 world cup and so on. Has to be a reason, a story why you want it and not just cause it's the new shiny thing out

@napost6191

Ай бұрын

I understood what you want, my point is it's not feasible. It's a small piece of cardboard, thick to accommodate the relic if any You can't expect a story attached to it. Maybe settle for a code that directs you to a story and maybe a short clip of the event. But again, this product is MASS produced for the general population. You want specialized product.

@philmark2296

Ай бұрын

@@napost6191 um it is and has been done just not on mass scale which is better. And no you didnt get what i said at all, the "story" does not come from the card producer but life. give you one more example. i am a chelsea fan, lets take lampard and his 1st chelsea card. that card to me as a fan has a "story" behind it. No video link needed lol my memory is enough. As for patches look at futera, not every product needs to be massed produced but hey if you like massed produced products go right ahead.