Splayed miter angle calculations and gluing

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Demonstrating making a tapered ten-sided polygon, using my miter table, and showing how to clamp it.
woodgears.ca/miter

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  • @kbags091
    @kbags091 Жыл бұрын

    Man, I know you probably won't see this, but I want the world to know that you are the real MVP. The fact you took the time to put all that info down in a spread sheet for us is amazing. you made my project possible and my wife happy. Thank you!

  • @Samlol23_drrich
    @Samlol23_drrich7 жыл бұрын

    You are INCREDIBLY talented, and one of the few I would consider an expert woodworker. Brilliant and thank you for this video. Not that I am going to build one of these tomorrow, but it's clearly a lot of effort and time condensed into a short video for our viewing pleasure. Just wanted to say "thank you" because I know, often nobody else does.

  • @donghylin8314
    @donghylin83148 жыл бұрын

    Matthias....excellent tutorial on a perplexing problem. I have some planters to make, so, using your data sheet, I made a sample six sided 15 degree splay test. Worked perfectly....You are a bright young woodcrafter (machinist) and your willingness to share your knowledge is very commendable....Thank you Sir, Don

  • @VideosMilitary

    @VideosMilitary

    6 жыл бұрын

    Don Ghylin brilliant idea this would make besutiful planters !

  • @keithcapehart4200
    @keithcapehart42009 жыл бұрын

    Man I really enjoy Your videos. I like the way they are presented down to the proper lighting. They are not boring or long winded, and You show a confidence in what You do down to the numbers. I am blown away by the tools and machines You have made with a little bit of wood and a whole lot of engineering. Very facinating. Please keep up the good work. There are not many around that can crunch numbers and not mind getting a little sawdust on them at the same time.

  • @billsutherland2128
    @billsutherland21283 жыл бұрын

    Exceptional work Matthias! As a math Professor, I applaud your engineering aptitude and your ability to teach. You have some rare talents.

  • @EddyProca
    @EddyProca10 жыл бұрын

    About ten years ago, I made a six sided lighthouse lamp in the style of the Louisbourg Lighthouse in elementary school woodworking class. I wish I had your video and spreadsheet then, because it took my teacher and me forever to get the angles right. It's really interesting to see this now though.

  • @dbsdbs114
    @dbsdbs1147 жыл бұрын

    I love when you used to make videos like this. These are techniques i've never seen before. Its like more engineering and thought process then it is woodworking.

  • @62hassebasse
    @62hassebasse9 жыл бұрын

    I never get tired of watching your explanatory videos. When I think I´ve seen them all there´s another one to learn from. Thanks a lot!

  • @DrJessHughes
    @DrJessHughes3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the link to the amazing table of miter angles and tilts! You saved us a tremendous amount of time this afternoon.

  • @jaredthomas8289
    @jaredthomas82898 жыл бұрын

    I am going to school to be a mechanical engineer next year. After watching this, it is discouraging. I watch a lot of woodworking, fabricating, and general hobbyist project videos, as I love to create anything and everything, and you are on another level completely. Superb work, and a calm demeanor working with those frustrating clamps. Great stuff.

  • @davidchisholm457
    @davidchisholm4574 жыл бұрын

    Mathias, Every time I watch your videos I am in awe of your intelligence. I am the kind of individual that when I see a model of something everything falls into place. I am attempting to build a dust chute for my miter saw and this application is exactly what I needed. It would be fantastic for woodworkers like myself if you could design a template where as an person could plug in the numbers from your spreadsheet and actually see their model change with the various degrees numbers available. I know your time is very valuable but this would be something that would be very high on my wish list. Best regards from Southwestern Ontario.

  • @abugooma
    @abugooma12 жыл бұрын

    I found the answer to my question from your video about precise table saw cuts. Thank you for all the good information you provide. I am a beginner and have taken one introductory 5-week course only, but I am learning more from you than from my classes.

  • @lindendrechsler6003
    @lindendrechsler60038 жыл бұрын

    Hi Matthias, everytime I watch your videos I recognize - you are in act a genius! Take care and have a good time. All the best from Germany... Freddy

  • @barbarapreddy616
    @barbarapreddy6162 жыл бұрын

    This is exactly the thing I need. Planning on making a octagon bird feeder and was having trouble figuring out the angle degrees and the bevel cut degrees. Great job!

  • @Indigenousim
    @Indigenousim9 жыл бұрын

    I have run across this problem many times over the years, this is the best solution I have seen. Thank you very much.

  • @MoreThanMichael
    @MoreThanMichael7 жыл бұрын

    This is brilliant and your table is so helpful! I am so glad you've created this resource!

  • @lrarcr84
    @lrarcr846 жыл бұрын

    You saved me a lot of time in the development of my projects, Thank you...

  • @jfan4reva
    @jfan4reva12 жыл бұрын

    Your videos are always, original, creative, and above all, you're not afraid of math! Gotta love that!

  • @bee-u-tifuladventures4771
    @bee-u-tifuladventures47714 жыл бұрын

    This is a great tutorial. I have been struggling with the learning curve in figuring out how to make mitered angle cuts using my table saw. You just explained it in a way that I can understand it. It was like a light bulb went on as you were talking. Thank you for taking the time to share this knowledge with us. :-)

  • @larrykeating4911
    @larrykeating49113 жыл бұрын

    Used your splayed angle measurements for 6 sided bird nesting box, absolutely perfect fit.. Thanks a million.

  • @AJRelaxesWith...
    @AJRelaxesWith...8 жыл бұрын

    I repaired a couple of round columns and used a clamping system like yours; however, I used my biscuit joiner to cut slots and hold the pieces together while clamping. I know it was an extra step, but it helped a lot.

  • @javiervila576
    @javiervila57612 жыл бұрын

    Man, you never stop surprising me, I wanna thank you for all the material you upload. Best regards

  • @JerryTraegerSmoker
    @JerryTraegerSmoker12 жыл бұрын

    Stunning!!! As soon as I saw your tapered polygon I was thinking I could turn a bowl with that. Thanks Matt. Can't wait for the next One! Turn ON!!!

  • @kimberleylowrie7151
    @kimberleylowrie71513 жыл бұрын

    I have OCD and your work makes me happy!! Love it

  • @sailorgs3
    @sailorgs38 жыл бұрын

    And yet the coopers of old managed to make their barrels, casks, buckets, etc. just by eye. No wonder in Spanish to say someone has good estimating ability they say "he has the eye of a good barrel maker". Matthias, I love your web pages and videos. I never get tired of them.

  • @bjorncmadsen
    @bjorncmadsen4 жыл бұрын

    I have been wondering about the trig to do this for 20 years, I tried to figure this out back in high school! Thank you.

  • @haworthluke

    @haworthluke

    4 жыл бұрын

    me too bro I found this a while ago but I was stumped for years too. He's on another level this guy

  • @JimTaylor42
    @JimTaylor429 жыл бұрын

    I've looked on your website and I congratulate you sir. I worked out the formula for a 6-sided, splayed out, mitered box but you have done it for the general case for sides 3 to 12. My intention is to use it to construct the roof for a wooden dovecote.

  • @giorgiocastellano129
    @giorgiocastellano1292 жыл бұрын

    I admire your work and your skills. If I want to find out about how to solve something complicated I always find the solution on your videos. You are a true genius. I look forward to further post.

  • @mayberrywj
    @mayberrywj10 жыл бұрын

    Matthias I love your work....you're very inspiring. Several years ago my son and I made an Ashiko drum. I downloaded a calculator called DrumCalc by Dan Sterantino's . From what I can see it does all the calculations you would need for the splayed miter angle... Easy glue method is this....lay all the pieces inside down on the table. Align them and put some masking tape on the joints. Flip over, apply glue, fold together and clamp with surgical tubing.

  • @mahmood4036
    @mahmood40362 жыл бұрын

    You are a legend, saved me a lot of time thinking of the angles and tappering. This is great keep up the good work

  • @jeffreydawson1687
    @jeffreydawson16872 жыл бұрын

    Outstanding work! Thanks for putting the chart together, it’s very much appreciated.

  • @jeffcarr392
    @jeffcarr3925 жыл бұрын

    Your explanation on clamping odd angles is excellent, this could be really tricky, thanks.

  • @user-br4hv3pt5s
    @user-br4hv3pt5s7 жыл бұрын

    I laid the pieces outside up and taped them together. The flipped them over applied glue then brought them together. I then secured them with as many rubber bands as I had available. Worked for me. Thanks for the charts.

  • @joeyaldente8858
    @joeyaldente88582 жыл бұрын

    You are such a super smart dude, I've watched your recent videos too and you have only gotten smarter, obviously super handy as well!

  • @superdau
    @superdau10 жыл бұрын

    That is so weird! I'm getting a table saw (don't have much room so it'll just be a Bosch GTS10XC) and the first project to test out the miter and blade tilt angle will be a cone shaped dust separator made out of MDF or plywood segments. I knew I watched this video years ago, but because I like puzzles I did the calculations myself (mostly by geometry of plane intersections and other vector calculations). And now, two days after I did that, this video comes up on the suggested videos. I did not search for anything related to it (so Google shouldn't know), still I get this suggestion. But at least now thanks to your spreadsheet I could confirm that my calculations are correct (for all combinations of # of segments/side angle I checked).

  • @sutterrock
    @sutterrock4 жыл бұрын

    so cool. Matthias thanks for kindly showing the math needed to make this bowl. Your are so fun to watch! Thanks!

  • @shofar-man
    @shofar-man6 жыл бұрын

    I never tried the math as a table was provided in a radial arm saw instruction book I purchased. Of course radial arm saws are notorious for inaccuracies and my first project for a polygon had slight gaps in the miters. I decided to solve the problem by gluing up in halves and sanding as you did but never put it into practice. Thanks for your research and tutorial.

  • @jaymac9154
    @jaymac91546 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I could never have worked the maths out. Just downloaded your data sheet. Very helpful. Thanks for sharing.

  • @mikerichards1022
    @mikerichards10225 жыл бұрын

    loved the explanations that's just awesome, so many videos leave out the important stuff! great job and beautiful work. True talent

  • @roymayh3819
    @roymayh38192 жыл бұрын

    Love the channel, I keep coming back to learn new things and better things.

  • @snoopyslr
    @snoopyslr6 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for putting that excel sheet together. I just attempted this myself and I would say I was 95% successful. I couldn't replicate your clamping method... So I pulled a John Heisz and used pin nails :-)

  • @jimtyrrell1
    @jimtyrrell110 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for sharing skills and knowledge. I'm, dusting off my wood lathe and I am looking for some ideas for turning bowls. Your math and video (very nice camera and sound) is inspiring. BTW, I'm pretty jealous of that 12" jointer. I should have one!

  • @tomrudd530
    @tomrudd5303 жыл бұрын

    thanks a bunch, spent an hour or two cutting up some scrap plywood yesterday ended up pretty frustrated. this is a big help

  • @grlg2
    @grlg25 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely brilliant! I need to make a cap for a gazebo roof and this helped me no end. Cheers.

  • @MrFinn
    @MrFinn4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for taking the time to work this out and share it! :)

  • @terrygodley6822
    @terrygodley68222 жыл бұрын

    Thanks very much Mathius... I was getting annoyed mitres "not quite right" on a half octagon-ended conservatory roof insulation project. Your cheat-sheet worked a dream with no more guessing (roof angle 30 to horizontal or... 60deg splay... Cheat sheet says mitre 19.73deg, saw tilt 11.03deg...worked perfectly) . Keep producing those videos...

  • @allanmclean6659
    @allanmclean66594 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I want to make some art frames and couldn't find any guides for the angles, a chart, or instructions. This come just in time, so thanks for having done this. (Wish I knew about this kind of math much earlier, but glad to have it now)

  • @hossenfeffer8383
    @hossenfeffer83832 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for your table. Helps a newbie very considerably

  • @matc87
    @matc872 жыл бұрын

    thanks I think this has just been the video and help I've been looking for with a project of mine..cutting odd angles and hasn't been working. thanks for the chart to

  • @MrWoody135
    @MrWoody1356 жыл бұрын

    "Not sure what I'm going to do with it!"......classic. Excellent video and commentary as usual.

  • @drew11pd
    @drew11pd12 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Free chart is much appreciated. Now to find a few projects that I can apply it to. You remain an inspiration.

  • @beer1for2break3fast4
    @beer1for2break3fast47 жыл бұрын

    Nice work as usual. You are an inspiration to the rest of us. Thanks for that and thanks for the cheat sheet as well.

  • @user-fs9xt3hi7j
    @user-fs9xt3hi7j3 ай бұрын

    I’ve been looking for this math ALL DAY. Thanks man!!

  • @musicbruise
    @musicbruise7 жыл бұрын

    Awesome bit of woodworking and problem solving. Would love to make a sculpture using this method.

  • @andrewbyron6048
    @andrewbyron60487 жыл бұрын

    Even a bunch of maths teachers couldn't figure this out but you make it so easy to do with your table! (I read your web page)Thank you for sharing this, I am hoping to make some garden planters using it.

  • @patrickarchuleta9594
    @patrickarchuleta9594 Жыл бұрын

    Your work is second to none outstanding work great attitude great idea's may God continue to bless your family and you.

  • @12345NoNamesLeft
    @12345NoNamesLeft12 жыл бұрын

    Agreed, that was one of those tips you realize when you see. . I also agree with Matthias that the one handed quick grips don't have much clamping power, but you could use it to get the parts in position and then add the good clamps after.

  • @parrot340
    @parrot3405 жыл бұрын

    So cool. Do wonder though if you have a table for 90 degrees. wanting to do the same but just for four corners. thanks

  • @nexus01gr
    @nexus01gr12 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant, as always! I especially enjoyed the comment on how glue (when still wet) acts as a lubricant...

  • @bobham5
    @bobham511 жыл бұрын

    On similar constructions I have found that splitting it up into two operations simplifies things, at least for me. I used a taper jig on the table saw to taper all the segments to final size, leaving the blade vertical for square edges. I then beveled the tapered edges on the jointer with the fence tilted to the proper miter angle for the number of segments. That would be 18 degrees for your ten segments. They fit together perfectly. My grain direction was the other way, though. Bob

  • @lrarcr84
    @lrarcr845 жыл бұрын

    saludos Matthias. Aun ahora veo este video y es extraordinario me simplificas muchos detalles en carpintería. Aprecio mucho tu aporte

  • @ColchesterBridgeport
    @ColchesterBridgeport12 жыл бұрын

    Loved the methodology behind finding the clamping point. I'll definetly use that one.

  • @edsimpers8414
    @edsimpers8414 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the chart and technique my parts came off just about perfect 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @bal20
    @bal203 жыл бұрын

    Great video and thank you so much for the table of data. Didn't think I would find what I was looking for (want to make a hexagonal roofed hedgehog house), and for once KZread found your video for me. This might just be one of the most helpful and concise informative videos ive found on here 👍

  • @garychristiansen508
    @garychristiansen5085 жыл бұрын

    Good job, love your quality videos. Could you tell me how to figure out how to cut a 6 sided angled roof that all the cut pieces come together at the top to make a point? 30 degree pitch or anything you'd like to make it would be fine.

  • @hermessoboleski676
    @hermessoboleski6764 жыл бұрын

    Great job Matt, I really enjoy your videos.

  • @mikeosullivan6880
    @mikeosullivan68805 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much man. You have taught me just what I needed to learn

  • @marlondallas624
    @marlondallas6242 жыл бұрын

    Great 👍 thank you for using the regular table saw because every other video tell us to set 22.5 and regular saw measurement is 90o to 30o so this was good and safe instructions 👌

  • @OgreProgrammer
    @OgreProgrammer11 жыл бұрын

    Informative as always. You say only as much as needs to be said. I like that. I also appreciate the lack of music in your videos. If I want to listen to music while I learn something new, I have plenty in my own collection. Keep up the great work!

  • @TheTobs50
    @TheTobs505 жыл бұрын

    Great video thank you Matthias! I learned a lot and looking forward to give this and others a try. Very inspirational.

  • @billmccaffrey1977
    @billmccaffrey19772 жыл бұрын

    I had watched this a few years back when making 3D stars and now I'm going to make a wanky kids chest of drawers with compound mitered dovetails. Thanks again for the great info - saved me huge a mount of time.

  • @mikedelam
    @mikedelam6 жыл бұрын

    I only found this here after struggling many hours with this. As a regular viewer of yours, I should have known you would have it all worked out already.

  • @soulfuzz368
    @soulfuzz3683 жыл бұрын

    Ive been looking for this information for some time now. What a wonderful video thank you kindly.

  • @epamanonda1
    @epamanonda19 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video, extremely useful angle table. Thank you .

  • @atreyurockmysocks
    @atreyurockmysocks12 жыл бұрын

    Goes through all the effort of making a 10 sided shape... Ends up being a rounded bowl. But you do it because you can, and my hat is most definitely off to you! Nice work.

  • @larsromanenko4962
    @larsromanenko49626 жыл бұрын

    A great video. Just what I have been looking for. Thank you!

  • @jamestiedt5242
    @jamestiedt524210 жыл бұрын

    If you want your adhesive to not act as a lubricant, throw a pinch of sand on one of the faces. The glue will hold the sand on until you clamp, then bite through the glue and keep the wood from sliding...

  • @brianmichaelhamilton8831

    @brianmichaelhamilton8831

    5 жыл бұрын

    Salt also does the trick!

  • @serginnimot
    @serginnimot6 жыл бұрын

    Hola señor matthias.me gustan mucho, sus videos y como explica sus conceptos.gracias por compartir y enseñar.

  • @knockinbox
    @knockinbox10 жыл бұрын

    8 AWESOME ANGLES!

  • @billsutherland2128
    @billsutherland21288 жыл бұрын

    Matthias, the play in your compound miter saw can be reduced to a minimum. Great use of the chart for cutting the complex miters!

  • @chevroletdieselnation
    @chevroletdieselnation5 жыл бұрын

    I made one. Your plans helped a lot

  • @nitovelez5733
    @nitovelez57335 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. Your videos are very informative.

  • @arthurgriffin1210
    @arthurgriffin12102 жыл бұрын

    Incredible demonstration!! Thank you

  • @filmgarden
    @filmgarden Жыл бұрын

    fantastic! so helpful for many different projects

  • @vancouverkitchencabinet7186
    @vancouverkitchencabinet71867 жыл бұрын

    Amazing work! Awesome Machinist! I really like your video because you showed your expertise and experience! in the last few months I was watching the KZread for INCRA MITER 1000HD that I brought few more incra INCRA tools and fence "I'm very happy with my shopping" most of the time in videos shows with hi tech tools you can get great results! But you showed you know how to do it with very simple tools and miters! (( most CNC's machinists knew how to make this Woodcraft with CNC !, But just wondering how many CNC Machinist, carpenters and millworkers know how to make such things with simple tools ( Not CNC and NC!) Great job!

  • @markwebb8376
    @markwebb83764 жыл бұрын

    i love yore style . your thoughts on using salt as an abradive grip in gluing? is too fixed or too slick a clamping surface harder to align, in your opinion?

  • @owlfire6502
    @owlfire65022 жыл бұрын

    Genius.. I wish I can just comprehend all these numbers but thank you for your fomula. I'll try them out.

  • @bhoola123
    @bhoola1233 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing the table. It is great job.

  • @LM-fn6qb
    @LM-fn6qb9 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much for this video. It is just what I was looking for.

  • @johngetz2043
    @johngetz20436 жыл бұрын

    I have seen salt used between the surfaces for some hold help, and being water soluble it will hurt nothing

  • @matthiaswandel
    @matthiaswandel11 жыл бұрын

    Just did a quick check, that comes out about right. Please explain how it its not 9.75.

  • @jeffflinchum700
    @jeffflinchum7007 жыл бұрын

    Awesome Matthias! Great job.

  • @nebula674
    @nebula6745 жыл бұрын

    wow it really worked. thank you! greetings from the Netherlands

  • @Rockstar-lx2li
    @Rockstar-lx2li3 жыл бұрын

    God you're a genius,.. you should be working in a high tech workshop .. I love your work buddy, keep it up :)

  • @benjaminportwood4154
    @benjaminportwood41545 жыл бұрын

    Wood this chart work for forms that are convex instead of concave? I'm making a six sided, hexagonal teepee for some kids using 4x4 posts, and am trying to figure out the angles between the 4x4s at different heights in order to be able to make the floor plan and other features.

  • @johnbearce5712
    @johnbearce57125 жыл бұрын

    Matthias I am having a hell of a time building a splayed hexagon. I am a novice woodworker using a handheld circular saw. After making my cuts I am forming more of a pentagon than hexagon. Any chance you would consider making another video about this subject. Other than this one there is not much more out there

  • @jamesallen6007
    @jamesallen60072 жыл бұрын

    You, sir, are a master. Well done. 👍😷🇬🇧

  • @peterg902
    @peterg9023 жыл бұрын

    To create a router table dust collection 4 sided box, I have always found dust collects at the bottom of the box (despite the dust extraction removing dust from it). So creating a funnel shape at the bottom of the box would be advantageous. However, if one has a 4 sided (non square) rectangular box, could one use your calculations to create a funnel or need new ones? Perhaps a future video?

  • @ronyerke9250
    @ronyerke92505 жыл бұрын

    Would buiscuts or dowels help keep everything alaigned? I suppose that would also require a custom jig. Nice project. 👍

  • @aubydauby
    @aubydauby3 жыл бұрын

    After all these years, I never noticed the ShopSmith. Neat

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