$3 more per month than Game Pass Ultimate and far fewer features. No mobile streaming is a huge miss in 2022 I think.

@RXbioGaming0899

2 жыл бұрын

120$ per year with PlayStation 180$ with game pass Sony is the cheaper and better option

@JoeChip

2 жыл бұрын

@@RXbioGaming0899 You’re comparing Game Pass Ultimate with PS Plus Premium. Ultimate gives you a full library of PC games to download and play as well as Xbox games, EA Access and streaming across multiple platforms. PS Plus Premium does not give you PC games and only allows streaming where the app is available. A better comparison would be to Xbox Game Pass for Xbox, which is only $9.99 a month and gives access to Xbox games only (including backwards compatible titles), though you can still stream them to PC. Basically Game Pass Ultimate is superior in every way to PS Plus Premium as it is currently laid out by Sony (plus you can get it heavily discounted if you take part in the Xbox rewards program).

I’m hearing that the ps3 games that Sony is offering as part of the service has to be streamed…….sigh 😩 I am so happy that I kept my ps3 slim all these years. Quite a few games I have downloaded on that system is delisted ie TMNT remake and NCAA football 14. I’m hoping that my ps3 last for as long as I live……the ps3 emulation looks promising as far as on the pc……🤔 interesting Sony can’t figure out the ps3 emulation……….

@JoeChip

2 жыл бұрын

I think it’s just laziness on their part, at this stage. The PS5 is a pretty powerful system and if anyone is capable of working out PS3 emulation it should be Sony themselves.

@Spielername

2 жыл бұрын

@@JoeChip they ain't lazy... they're greedy.

PS Plus on PS3 has full game trials, but now Sony wants us to pay extra to have trials on PS4/PS5?

Sony got lazy, Microsoft had to work to get on top. Now Sony are trying any old rubbish to keep up, this is a huge fail

@walsjell

Жыл бұрын

yes ! sony will become like nintendo! , ps3 had just luck duo xbox 360 just started to gain players and own status! sony become dead and closed if they will walk this way..i wa swith sony form psone time , then in ps4 era i get xbox . in the future i will go pc and xbox only i think..

THIS BLOWS - SONY!! (Obvious Sony money grab and LAZY!!) I own literally 438 games from PS4 library having been a loyal PS Plus member and purchases since launch of PS Plus, and owned all hardware from PS1 through PS5 - and I fired up my PS3 - have 450ish titles there (*mix of PS3/Vita/PSP/PS2/PS1 title released under PS PLUS, and purchased for real) PS NOW blows and have never supported it - I should have ACCESS to the games that I own - ADD an emulator to PS5 and let us DL and play games that I ALREADY own! Don't tell me it’s too expensive, people make emulators for FREE as hobby to play on PC, just roll one out as a software update and boom we can play PSP/PS1/2/3/4 titles that we ALL own on the current system, it has MORE than enough power to run it. SHEER GREED and LAZY on Sony! SONY - IF you think I’m going to PAY AGAIN to stream or DL titles from the above 900? Titles that I already own, supposedly, for being a PS PLUS member, and/or purchased on my own, digitally, already over the last 10+ years - you’re CRAZY! SONY, I’ll even give you a free tip - if you want money: 1. Add Emulation for PS1-3/Vita/PSP 2. allow the PS Store to point to the ENTIRE library, 3. put appropriately reduced price tags on everything from PS1 to PS4 and watch the money roll in as people who never played something back when, finds it and buys it to play from past libraries Do you know how many people would PAY a few dollars for the absolute convenience of : “oh, cool! They have FF4(or whatever) on the PS Store - never tried that, $5 download and play. . .” HOW are you so blind!?

I used to get psnow and ps plus in sale every year so the whole thing costed me 80-85 bucks . I knew this was gonna happen, people kept asking for the dumb idea of merging the subscriptions like this wasn't gonna happen 🤦

I'm honestly scratching my head at some of Sony's business decisions when it comes to Playstation this gen. Last gen, all they had to do was keep putting out decent games at a fair price and the consoles and games sold themselves. This gen, not content with squeezing people who are already financially challenged with higher game prices, they want to sell us a pointless tiered rebranding of PS Plus and PS Now. Well, thanks Sony but I think I'll pass. MS must be chuckling into their huge pile of Game Pass money right now.

@JoeChip

2 жыл бұрын

I know it's weird. What exactly does this offer that makes it compelling? What really confuses me is how a company like Sony could fail so spectacularly to read the direction of travel. All they've done is rebrand the existing failed service.

@grantrencourt

2 жыл бұрын

@@JoeChip Yeah and I think what you did there is highlight a BIG problem with this announcement: namely how confusing it is for the consumer. Sony broke a fundamental rule of sales and marketing. If you have to explain what you're offering at length because the consumer might struggle to understand it, then you're already making a rod for your own back. I'm not trying to say it's super confusing but look at how much text there is accompanying each tier. I go back to the same word each time..why?!

@JoeChip

2 жыл бұрын

@@grantrencourt Exactly, and you’d think that would be one area where Jim Ryan would excel. It really is quite strange.

Sony still can't emulation playstation 3 game I can literally do that on my computer . as for service it's probably not worth it for me I mainly play on pc.

I'm sad that the ps+ i had for 5 years that library is all gone now & games i had in my library are only available with premium now. So they took back everything i paid for for years. So screw that. Not gonna give them more to get back what i had. Sad really

I didn't think it was possible to make Game Pass look even better but Sony has found a way somehow. Premium is garbage DO NOT get it or at least wait for a decent sale for the year subscription. Paying for Backwards Compatibility and Cloud Saves? Streaming only for PS3 games? And no Day 1 releases of PS4/PS5 games? They show you big numbers and leave crucial features off the table. It's a terrible offering and I hope the number of subscribers will reflect that.

@JoeChip

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree.

Honestly thinking about it, it feels a bit deceptive. Casual gamers or parents comparing consoles will be drawn to the Xbox because of Game Pass, and so Sony has shuffled their services so they can go “look we have one too!” hoping that people don’t look at the details to notice the caveats.

@JoeChip

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, good point. This service certainly isn’t game pass but unless you have the time to look at the details, it might see that it is.

My teenage kids' tiers wont change (they'll stay at £49.99 per year - they're not into all the back compat rubbish! They only use their consoles for a couple of online games) so I really don't see what the new differences are (other than the games available)......?!

@JoeChip

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it seems to be much the same as we've already got. No wonder they didn't make it a big announcement. It's a bit of a damp squib if you ask me.

I like it having options is a good thing i have both consoles an play on both because i live video games and im happy to have playstation and xbox because if there was only xbox or only playstation things would be bad. If you like love videos you get what i mean

@JoeChip

2 жыл бұрын

I want both systems to be firing on all cylinders. Unfortunately, I don’t think this service offers much that we didn’t already have with PSPlus and PSNow.

im glad i left playstation 2 years ago and went to xbox

@JoeChip

2 жыл бұрын

I definitely think PlayStation needs a rethink. Some of their business decisions lately have been pretty anti-consumer. The most obvious example of that is GT7, which is just ridiculous, but it's not the only thing. This service, such as it is, leaves an awful lot to be desired. It's not really that different from what we have already with PS Plus and PS Now. It's a shame as I had high hopes, even while I suspected this might be what we'd get.

@Someone_1994

2 жыл бұрын

@@JoeChip yea

Small correction Joe, PS+ currently offers 3, sometimes 4 monthly games. So the new PS+ base subscription is objectively a downgrade. Either way, the whole thing is a cats lunch.

@JoeChip

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, good point 👍

Sony better not pull a Nintendo and lock the classic games behind a pay wall

@jam_1138

2 жыл бұрын

Isn’t that exactly what they’ve done?

@JoeChip

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty much, yes.

@lordxboss5700

2 жыл бұрын

All classic games are locked behind the highest Tier 🤯

@JoeChip

2 жыл бұрын

@@lordxboss5700 Yep.

Goes to show you that Sony’s strategy is much different. Imagine if they did do day and date with their exclusives for $120 a year. Bet you would see a lot of Gamepass subscribers jump ship to PlayStation Premium.

@JoeChip

2 жыл бұрын

I definitely think it would be much more competitive if they did that.

Has day & date releases proven to improve the quality of games? In fact, based on xbox game pass model, it has hurt the qualities of games. It easy to subscribe to something & forget about it, that doesn't mean that subscription is giving you quality stuff. Netflix wants to start giving more quality stuff so; they raised the subscription prices. Day & date game releases, doesn't breed competition which leads to Improvement & innovation.

@JoeChip

2 жыл бұрын

How has Game Pass hurt quality? How does day and date release on Game Pass not breed competition?

If you do the "MATH" and take into account how quality games are made; $15 a month x 12 months x 48 million subscribers, doesn't cut it when you talk about games like: Horizon, GOW, Spiderman, ghost of tsushima, TLOU, e.t.c. Its doesn't work, you'd have to increase the number of subscribers or increase the price of monthly subscription substantially! Do you know what 💰 it takes to make games like: GOW, Horizon, GOT, e.t.c

@JoeChip

2 жыл бұрын

You do realise that those who subscribe to Game Pass also tend to spend more on games, peripherals etc? You’re view is incredibly simplistic. Sony will be putting games day and date on their service inside five years.

@JoeChip

2 жыл бұрын

@Legacysquid 062 Have you not been paying attention? www.gamesradar.com/uk/xbox-game-pass-subscribers-spend-20-more-on-gaming-overall-microsoft-says/ I don’t have to deal with it, Sony do. I’ve not seen you put forward an argument as to why they can’t put games day and date on their service. I’d be interested to hear the reasoning behind that assertion. metro.co.uk/2021/07/28/game-pass-subscribers-spend-50-more-on-games-than-non-subscribers-15000944/

They shit on resolution of series s all day and then play ps3 games in 23 fps whit 720 p on stream! Yuppp letz a goooo! 👍

@knowledgeseeker4116

2 жыл бұрын

I love my series s.😍 It sits in my living room hooked up to a 60 inch 1080p tv and the games looks gorgeous! I’m 42 years old and played the ps1 in my teens so all current graphics looks good to me. I even take my series s to coffee shops and public libraries with a 10 inch monitor and game that way. It’s now ranked in my top 3 consoles of all time, the ps3 is first, followed by ps1.

@JoeChip

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, that’s a good point. Fanboys have never been know for consistency, though.

I have the feeling that Sony's new PS Plus model is very Japanese. It's like how Nintendo would do it. They stuck very much in the past and are ignoring the alternatives their costumers have nowadays. Sony thinks that quality is enough and quality is of course important but they seem to forget that Microsoft game studios aren't just one big monolith but dozens of studios that have a lot of quality titles as well. Nintendo is able to stay in the business because they are in a niche market but Sony is in a direct competitor to Microsoft and most games are third party anyway. That means that I can buy a XBOX if I'm no longer satisfied with my Playstation and I can play most games I've played on my old system anyway. Sorry for my English, I'm not a native speaker but I hope you understand what I wanna say.

@walsjell

Жыл бұрын

yeap! sony is walkin the path of nintendo! it gone be dead end! sony is just a joke ! many ppl will come to xbox and pc , exs will not work as in the past!

Paystation is a sham. They are basically making you pay for the right to buy paystation games behind the top plan. Soon you wont be able to buy games without being subbed to the top tier game. There are already a ton of games that you want to buy that are locked behind the UPGRADE button in order to buy that game. Not going to pay money to be able to buy games.. Screw this.. This is basically Costco and Sams Club membership in order to walk inside the store. Same thing here with Paystation.

@JoeChip

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure I’d call it a sham but it definitely needs a lot of work.

Once Sony started reigning, they got greedy and started locking more and more stuff behind a paywall INCLUDING ONLINE MULTIPLAYER THIS IS WHY I BELIEVE MORE PEOPLE WILL START SWITCHING TO NINTENDO/Xbox/pc

@JoeChip

2 жыл бұрын

Nintendo are just as bad, if not worse. Xbox and PC are much better in that regard. PC especially.

I can't believe people can't see the value of this service. Playstation has 5 times more games & 20 times more quality games than Xbox. Day & date release is also detrimental to game producers, that's why gamepass is not profitable yet. Also, use this new service before you judge it. This is also going to attract lots of children & casual gamers too

@RXbioGaming0899

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you !

@JoeChip

2 жыл бұрын

How are day and date releases detrimental to game producers? That’s not what devs themselves are saying. I am currently subscribed to PS Now and PS Plus and this “new” service is just a rebranding of those, with very little that is actually new. The only real difference is the introduction of tiers, which makes it more confusing for those kids and casual gamers that you think it will attract.

Trash forcing you to pay the price of both services if you only wanted psnow and the saddest part is that all those features are free on Xbox, backwards compatibility, demos, cloud saves pathetic Sony 💀💀💀💀💀.

ok first off to get straight to the point !! I'm a real xbox fan. no fake shit and honestly as much times xbox struggled on with much stuff and seeing Sony getting new games after new, i still never gave up on xbox because I knew exactly what xbox was planning... but honestly what really cross my attention is the fact EVERY SINGLE year, did anyone ever realize the only thing Sony fan boys ever said what was better than xbox was just GAMES. literally nothing else lol which for now may be true tbh because spider man was my all time favorite marvel hero and damn it I do get jealous asf Sony has Spiderman games and not Xbox but obviously now Xbox done a huge move by now making not only just Sony fan boys jealous but also the company of Sony which by Xbox gamepass that Sony seriously trying so hard to copy Xbox on 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️ so all in all if something is 100% better than the other than why tf would it make sense to copy it 😒🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ and also for the record Xbox is just not only about games, it's also more than just that than with Sony is just all about games. now yes don't get it mistaken people love playing games after games but in reality as much fun any games can be, they can get boring so with that being said, if you got a console that is just only about games and nothing else in it, it's gonna get tiring once in a while 🤷‍♂️ just saying.... so from a old Sony fan since ps1, I am not saying nothing bad at all about Sony as much as you hard hating fan boys try coming at Xbox but all I'm saying don't talk shit about something that what you guys say suck but sadly got the company you adore is running out of ideas and copying another company yal hate and talk shit on

@JoeChip

2 жыл бұрын

Unfotunately fanboys will always fail when it comes to logic. I think Game Pass is pretty good at present and it will only get better. Sony copying the idea is no bad thing but I'm not entirely sure that they are. Itr looks more like a rebrand of PS Now and while I don't think PS Now is as bad as some people claim, the lack of day and date titles and the need to stream PS3 titles really does hobble it somewhat. I'll give it a fair go when it launches (tomorrow in the UK as I write this) but I do think they need to address the failings I mention if they really want to compete with Game Pass. We shall see, though.

It's really not that bad. It's for people that want to be able games to play more games. If you can't afford it then don't get it. Its that simple.I prefer to buy the games but that's just me.

Sony being lame right now here.

If I can't download ps plus on my pc and play at my resolution it's worthless to me I will pass.

Watch there barley be any psp,ps1 and ,ps2 games there. Psnow had ps2 games as in advertisements they had ps2 compatibility and it’s pathetic in practice. It’s literally gonna be like psnow is now just a bunch of streaming ps3 games fluff ps4 games and Ps5 games eventually only due to the fact their won’t be new ps4 games for long 💀

Preface: To the "but" statements that will be said, I know. I get it, I understand, but all the same, here we go: I wish MS would tell Sony to get off their servers. That would basically shut down streaming in the west for PSNow. Amazon web services would be awful and they would say no anyways because they also stream games. What's Sony going to do? Build infrastructure? Stream from their servers in Japan to the literal opposite side of the planet? Again, I know, but all of that short-term suffering might make Sony inclined to ditch streaming altogether and make ps3 games downloadable. When left alone to come up with stuff we get stuff like PS Plus Premium.

@JoeChip

2 жыл бұрын

There are two problems I see here off the top of my head. First, Microsoft make money from Sony using their servers, so it's a win for them. Sony would just go to someone like Amazon if they couldn't use MS's servers and that would not be a good business move for MS. Second, streaming is the future whether we like it or not. Sony aren't going to move away from a service model that will only become more viable over time, not less. I hope they make PS3 games available to download instead of streaming (the tech is there to do it) but I'm not entirely sure they will. The only thing that will push them in that direction is if fans continue to ignore their service because it is so reliant on streaming. They might change tack in the short to medium term in that case, and make PS3 games downloadable. Long term, though, streaming is where everything is headed.

What a funny joke ! Xbox All The Way ...

@JoeChip

2 жыл бұрын

It does make me wonder what Sony are thinking with this. It just looks like a rebranding of what we already have, with a couple of extras thrown in. Maybe I'm missing something, though.

@jam_1138

2 жыл бұрын

@@JoeChip It seems they’ve just rebranded PS Now because the sales were flagging.

@jam_1138

2 жыл бұрын

I did see some reactions from people saying that Microsoft need to address this announcement and up their game more 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@JoeChip

2 жыл бұрын

@@jam_1138 😂🤣😂 Yeah, this is going to have them shaking in their boots 😉

According to Sony fanboys. This is better than Gamepass....

@antd21677

2 жыл бұрын

No, this is a subscription service. Nothing more, nothing less. I'm just happy they are not making this their core business

@JoeChip

2 жыл бұрын

Well fanboys (whether Sony, Xbox, Nintendo etc) are not known for their logical thinking.

@JoeChip

2 жыл бұрын

ARCHANGEL1924 Why are you happy they’re not making it their core business? Wouldn’t you like to see PS5 games day and date on the service? You’d still be able to buy them if you want to.