My heart breaks for old NENE. I love her.🦍

It’s very sad that kiyo picks on nene, because she is his biggest supporter and always ardently defends him when he is in trouble

@klmoll

8 ай бұрын

And the most vulnerable as an elder.

Nene is too old to be put through that all the time. I was disappointed to see no one helping her, not even her daughter.

@sonjavandam1306

8 ай бұрын

I've never seen Nene stick up for her daughter only Kiyo.

@stevemorris6790

8 ай бұрын

@@sonjavandam1306, or her granddaughter!

Kiyo is getting bigger and more aggressive by the day. They need to send Him to a Bachelor Herd ASAP before He seriously hurts His Mother 😢

Aww my old girl I love Nene.❤ Kiyo is getting super big he's out of control treating Nene like that she deserves respect!! Kiyo is getting super big it's time to move him ❤️ My perfect Shabani I love my handsome fella ❤️

Shabani sees NeNe being picked on and instead of helping her, he joins in? The son shouldn't be influencing the father.

shabani is the most beautiful gorilla I have ever seen . Nene you are very strong and you have a lot of courage with the other member of the group

Nene get’s it from Kiyomasa and Shabani 😢,, I know Shabani loves to be chased around the enclosures 😂 maybe Kiyomasa gets that from his Daddy 😊IDK.. I love this troop so much… Thank you for sharing this wonderful video 🎉🎉🎉

Shabanie is the king, of this troop ,his son needs to be bachelor , I like when they're playing make s me sad.

Nene gives the chase. They know this. Part of pranks. But seems some of this was due to food, being lunch was about to be served. Awaiting next video😃🦍

I’m confused! Is Shabani looking for Kiyo’s approval? Is that why he started attacking Nene shortly after Kiyo? Nene has her issues but she certainly don’t deserve this abuse!! She’s the first one that stands up for that brat of her’s, yet he turns on her every chance he gets! Shabani need to find his balls and the Zoo need to get Kiyo out of there!!

@sonjavandam1306

8 ай бұрын

I just watched a video by Something About Gorilla's. I think this incident lead up to the upheaval. Watch it if you can. It all makes sense now. Shabani did grow a pair of balls in that video, it looks like he did & Kiyo has gone into hiding.

@gregsutton2400

8 ай бұрын

He would have to kill Nene. With Nene there he has no control over her daughter or her son.

@thewisepowerchair2369

8 ай бұрын

Shabani tapped on those bars before he attacked Nene. That is where Nene is fed from. Thank you for filming these videos.

@Kiowa371

8 ай бұрын

@@user-yf9vd7nq2y😂

@nephtari

8 ай бұрын

Kiyomasa needs to be out of that troop he needs his own!

I'm so pissed how dare Kiyo treat Nene like that!!

Every show I look at the son Attack the mothers," why" the mother are the smallest,,🦍 I fell for the mother ,the sons are Bullies, 🦍 👀🥰

Why are the zookeepers allowing this to go on. She is soo stressed. Put a water hose on them or separate her from them. Cruel.

@harlemcattux7997

8 ай бұрын

I don't know if zookeepers can intervene in the everyday interactions and hierarchy of the gorilla's lives. Isn't the ideal of zoo habitats to maintain the exhibited animals as close as possible to their natural behavior, unless life threatening or dangerous? Some zoos have reported using sedatives to calm/destress the animals.

@kells1784

8 ай бұрын

Separating Nene from her family would make her so stressed! That would not solve anything. The zookeepers don't intervene on a daily basis, as it isn't helpful. They are gorillas, not humans, and it is best to let them live as natural as possible for captivity. They have their own natural behaviours! You are speaking from a human perspective and projecting human emotions onto Nene. Zookeepers should only intervene if one of the Gorillas is severely hurt or the risk of death. Other than that, they monitor a situation in the background.

It’s always the innocent Mommies that still loves & protects their children even when they are growing into adults, stands up for them, worries about them then takes a beating or two from them. Then, still loves them, protects them, etc… Dad, Shabani needs to get there & discipline there cocky son! (Over attacking poor Nene)

Great move by Shabani...Kiyo attacks Nene; It's very heavy, Sabani watches and diverts Kiyo's attention by doing the usual thing...hitting Nene on the head. Kiyo calms down but then returns to the attack with Nene. Shabani displays his muscles like a mountain in front of Kiyo and the problem ends...for the moment! It seems to me that Kiyo imitates his father's game with respect to Nene.

Shabani has to prove he's the head of the family and protect grandma this horrible

@stevemorris6790

8 ай бұрын

He did plain of times!!

Where the heck are Ai and Annie? I’ve always seen that the females of a gorilla troop will come together and go after the Silverback if he starts hitting one of them. I guess it’s just animal nature to pick on the old and the weak. It’s so sad that our frail old girl, Nene, seems to have no backup from anyone. If we decide to keep these beautiful creatures in a zoo the very least we can do is to ensure their safety. The zookeepers should maybe separate her from the others. It is not uncommon for a male gorilla to kill his mate. I believe there was a female gorilla in Japan who died as a result of her injuries after being beaten by her mate. I just wish Nene could eat and live in peace. My heart breaks seeing her treated so roughly and not one female standing up for her. 😢

@klmoll

8 ай бұрын

Yes, true about Hiromi, mother of Genki who is Momotaro wife, was so badly injured by her Silverback she had to be euthanized. 😞♥

I felt so sad watching this, Poor Nene is always being hit. she has no one to turn to I hope she get special treats now

@paulagola2307

8 ай бұрын

Same here poor girl being abused ❤️

@stevemorris6790

8 ай бұрын

Maybe if she had treated her granddaughter with affection instead of kicked her all the time she would have her protection now.

@rosemarysynnott6544

8 ай бұрын

​@@stevemorris6790 Her doing things not good years ago is on her, others doing things not right is on them, otherwise you are saying everyone else can act out except one.

@stevemorris6790

8 ай бұрын

@@rosemarysynnott6544 , no no. But her with her attitude, didn’t help her a bit!

Povera Nene,se la prendono con lei perché sanno che se reagisce non riuscirebbe a far del male a nessuno, può solo corrergli dietro e loro si divertono. Spero che non venga ferita! Bella Nene tesoro mio!❤️🍀❤️

🥺Nene got her exercise in today 🥵

ねねさんは大切なお母さんなのに、でも京都のお兄ちゃんも何かお母さんにちょっかい？を出していましたね。そう言う反抗期？って言う時期だと動物園の飼育員さんはテレビで仰ってましたね。 でもあんまり酷いとパパの指導やお父さん違いのアイさんからも辞めなさいって言われるでしょうから... それらを見てアニーちゃんがまた食欲が無くなっちゃうと心配ですね。 ねね母さんは頑張ってるけど 段々小さく見えてくるのが残念です。 たった20頭しかいない日本のゴリラさんの将来を全国の動物園の方々が相談する時期に差し掛かっているのかも知れませんね。 大切なゴリラさん達が幸せになるようにどなたかクラウドファンディングとかで道筋を見つけて下さると良いのですが... 京都市動物園の方では働きかけされておられる方もいらっしゃるみたいですが.. 今は人間世界も大変なので無理なんでしょうかね。

I will say that while I hate to see Nene attacked, she doesn’t back down. She’s pretty tough but it still is hard to watch

It's clearly time to move Kiyomasa.

Poor Nene always being picked on,has no protection.

I know is bad but if Shabani discipline Kiyo now in front of Nene, she together with her daughter would go against Shabani!

@sonjavandam1306

8 ай бұрын

Like in a previous video by Something About Gorilla's, Annie is loyal to her dad, but I suggest you find this video from yesterday.

Pauvre nene c'est pas gentil pour son grand âge 😢

Kiyomasa pouts way to much

Kiyomasa is acting like Gentaro. But I think Gentaro now has grown out of pestering Genki.

@chelseasavage3579

8 ай бұрын

At least Momotaro doesn't join in.

Бедная Нене. Два самца бьют ее и никто из остальных членов семьи не заступается. В семье Хаоко такого нет. Печально. 😢😢😢

@sonjavandam1306

8 ай бұрын

I love how Momokos kids surround her when Haoko is being a dick.

dont know if i remember seeing shabani stare at kiyo like he was there at the beginning, it wasnt his usual look at him also, kiyo is learning. he knows that if he wants to be alpha, he has to "play" with nene like shabani does, but really i think their play has evolved into just picking on poor nene, who can't defend herself

Maybe Shabani thinks Kiyo is playing with his mother.

Question for anyone: why does Nene get singled out for displays of dominance between Shabani and Kiyo?

@nephtari

8 ай бұрын

I think it’s because she’s the weakest. Easy to dominate and show their authority over.

*THEY NEED TREES AND A POND. THEY ARE VERY INTELLIGENT, SO THEY NEED TOYS TO KEEP THEM BUSY.*

I feel sorry for nene

It's very common for a blackback to pick on their mothers. Look at Gentaro and Lope (to mention a few), they did/ and in Gentaro's case, he still does. It's a dominance thing.

ストレスや怒りって、関係のない弱い者に向かうのは、ゴリラも人間も同じなんやな😅

ゲンタロウ家族が気になったいたが、シャバーニ家族の方がもっと気になる。 　どうか穏やかになりますように。

Nene should get more respect than any of them including shabani bc she’s his mother ! And I don’t get it bc shabani usually disciplines all of them for doing wrong n I kno kiyo is afraid of him bc I’ve seen him hide for so long not one of his family members could find him!

I can hardly tell Kiyomasa apart from Shabani. I thinks it’s gettin time for Kiyomasa to join Lope in a bachelor group.

キヨマサを一番守ってきたお母さんだからこそ、見ていて苦しくなります。 コモモ、ゲンタロウにも同じことを感じました。 独り立ちの時が確かに来ているんですね。

It is very sad to watch these poor prisoners. And this young mail should leave mother's familiy, he is an adult !!

Why the heck is Kyiamasa bugging Nene like that? Shabani wasn't funny either, joining in on the smacking. I loved it when Nene got her chase on though. Kyiamasa, leave mom alone....🦍🦍🦍🦍

I still say Kiamosa, Gentaro and Lope would make the best bachelor group. They are all around the same age.lope is already heading to France very soon. I wonder who would be the alpha in that scenario ? I bet Kiamosa or Lope, but Gentaro is the smartest😊

@WayneEskeddit

8 ай бұрын

Gentaro

All the older girl gorillas need their on space, just like genkie

ネネはキヨマサを甘えすぎた育て方をしたのでネネの責任がある。　前からネネがかげの責任者でした。　　ネネは子供やアニーを遊んであげなかったし、アニーに厳しかったので、誰もかばうゴリラがいなくなってしまった。 もっと小さい時からキヨマサを厳しくした方が良かった。　 アニーだけ厳しくしていた。 ネネにも悪い所がある。 アニーに優しくしていたら、　シャバーニもアニーもネネを守ったと思う。　今前やった事がネネに返ってきた。ネネ　 皆と遊んであげてほしい。 もうネネは出来ないゴリラなのかも、　性格だから

Babies should not be interacting like this. They are pushing humans around and that should not be part of their upbringing . They could become dangerous to handle by the keepers. Not worth it just to get s few bucks from tourist trade.

Attacking his own mother they are behaving more and more like us in America everyday

What a terrible enclosure foer these gorillas

Poor nene

1:00 🤔 Both Kiyomasa and Shabani (father and son) are a LOT alike. Both have lots of energy, very cheeky personalities 🤭, and at times tend to get bored and restless 2:38. That's when the trouble starts 3:13 🤨. Well, we've seen it before. The hormonal ⌚clock is ticking. A black back teen (Gentaro) messes with his mother 3:38. These are gorillas, and obviously age to them doesn't matter. 4:33 But whose fault is it? Shabani's! Kiyomasa has learned from the best at this game of "tag Nene and run" shannanigans. 🤔 Now that I think about it, over the years it's probably why Nene is still climbing and running considerably well for her advantage age. It doesn't help that Kiyomasa is 🤪 from raging 🔥💣 hormones playing a big part, but again we know that black backs love to push the boundaries, and antagonize. That's when we also know Kiyo is ready for his mate, and own family. I'm not making excuses for Kiyo, but again these are gorillas 🤷. Nene would much rather be doing one of her favorite things...sitting on the grass in the warm sun, and curiously looking out the small window at visitors, but she's really one tough 🍪 cookie. In this video she's just annoyed. When she's reached her utmost limit she is extremely vocal with her bark ⚠️ warnings and fussing. 7:57 Shaking my head. 🤦 Oh for the love of primates. Shabani, you are definitely leading by example, right? 🤭

@sonjavandam1306

8 ай бұрын

Hi mate agree with all of the above, I disagree with it being Shabs fault, it's entirely on the zoo who should have moved him a year ago. Kiyomasa would be dead or severely hurt if. Shabs is a caring dad. Watch this space.🤔🙋

@sonyawilson1000

8 ай бұрын

@@sonjavandam1306 👋 Hello my friend! 💝 I know, I know...but for that reason (Kiyo should have already been moved) I was just being quirky when I blamed Shabani for Kiyomasa's "tag you're it" antics. You know...real housewives of time stamps as usual 🤣😭😂. I am surprised that Nene didn't do her usual alarm barking, and fussing. That alarm scream/bark combo she does cracks me up, and she does get everyone's attention when she sounds her 🗣️ alarm. Sometimes she waves an arm around. I would venture to say, it is the equivalent of ☝️ pointing. Watch out! 🤭

@sonjavandam1306

8 ай бұрын

@@sonyawilson1000 Hey girl, I'm confused because there was another video at the same time as this. Something About Gorilla's. That I think was the day after this? In the other one something happened in the basement & Kiyo was hiding from Shabani until the end of the video, once Kiyo had all the females behind him he provoked Shabani & Shabs went for him, Nene & Ai started going for Shabani & the old girl went full phycho on him.😜 Bit him on the ass or grabbed it? You know I'm not a fan of Nene but it upset me because she always sticks up for him. He is being disrespectful & a bully & needs a kick up the ass.😡 Take care babe.✌️

@sonyawilson1000

8 ай бұрын

@@sonjavandam1306 😲What? Whoo! I totally missed that video. I'll have to look for it.

@sonjavandam1306

8 ай бұрын

@@sonyawilson1000 It is similar to the one 6 mths ago. I hope there will be a follow up video. This video hints at the end there is more to come.🙋

Things sure changed in a day. Maybe that's what happened in the basement and it got him mad. He has to put him in his place or his authority will be constantly challenged

Teenager is about to get schooled.

SO MUCH TALKING

This must have been before the tension that happened inside and if so, perhaps Shabani is trying to discipline Kiyo because of this. But if this is after the fight, then Kiyo is projecting his anger to his mother or his provoking Shabani to establish dominance. But.... i really dont feel any pity for Nene because she did this to herself. Touch her son and you will have a ferocious old female gorilla running at you. In Shabani's mind, well i tried and you went against me instead so yeah... "you do you boo, let me know how i can help next time." 😂

@sonjavandam1306

8 ай бұрын

AMEN 😅

@dudadossantos3646

8 ай бұрын

Yesss 🤣🤣

@rosemarysynnott6544

8 ай бұрын

Name me one female gorilla who doesn't chase the silverback when they discipline their kid?

@sonjavandam1306

8 ай бұрын

@@rosemarysynnott6544 D'jeeco troop.

@rosemarysynnott6544

8 ай бұрын

@@sonjavandam1306 They are babies he plays with them, doesn't attack them.

Pobre Nene !...es la CABEZA DE TURCO dónde descargar todos los problemas 😢.

It seems that Nene is "getting a goat" today🤣 It's just a shame that it's her, and not someone less authoritative...

Where’s zookeepers

They look bored out there brains no wonder they end up fighting

What a horrible thing to do, Kiyo attacks his elderly mother and his father, her alleged protector joins in? When she dies from cardiac arrest I hope that the zoo don't pretend to be "saddened and shocked". We all know how this is going to play out, and it'll be because all the zoo see are ££££ signs! Disgusting.

The tension occurred when Nene got special food given to her. Annie protested and started bugging Nene. Tension was created by treating Nene with special food and not everyone else got any. Even Ai was acting like a bully to Annie when Annie was by the cage trying to get food as well.

They gonna kill her. But them boys in timeout, lock them down and without food

It's because they have already had sex together.

しかし静かに見れないのか？ゴリラが可哀想、うるさい奴等がな。