-loses 80 skavenslaves out of 1286 units -close victory yeah game, that was tight

@Sir_Bucket

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like the game values skavenslaves too much in the balance of power.

@Run4TheHills321

3 жыл бұрын

(late reply, but...) I think most of the closeness was the hero damage.

@phlownomenalbeat5421

2 жыл бұрын

Just the other night I had a victory against the beard-things where I killed 2500 of them, and lost no units. Got a “close victory” hah

@banilo1022

2 жыл бұрын

@@Run4TheHills321 yeah, both of the heroes had 50% health left, and since they have way more value the health they lost is more than the slaves

@yunikage

2 жыл бұрын

Try playing Vampire Counts. I will smash a massive endgame army, lose zero formations, but since half my skeletons died it's literally always a Pyrrhic victory. Game's like "was it even worth it, tho?" YES.

Legend: "We shot our own troops there and did tons of damage to them." Every Skaven General Ever: "And?"

@verdantsaturn3686

3 жыл бұрын

Gotta get warpbomb some how

@panciekawski8287

3 жыл бұрын

Also every soviet general since WW2 :)

@thecursed01

18 күн бұрын

@@panciekawski8287 or french generals in ww1

I know "Legend is really a Skaven" is essentially a meme by this stage, but damn, his seamless transition between human and Skaven voice is a thing of genius.

@ysyzpraggers2235

3 жыл бұрын

He really should make a campaign livestream where he roleplays as a Skaven the entire time :D

@ericposey4124

3 жыл бұрын

@@ysyzpraggers2235 He's said that it destroys his voice. I remember one campaign where he was visibly wincing after overdoing it. But yes it's fantastic.

@ludovicm5585

3 жыл бұрын

Don't get distracted, we all know he is part of the lizardmen conspiracy!

@dwightehowell8179

3 жыл бұрын

He has a split personality. 😉

@sevenshadesofsmooth

3 жыл бұрын

With a touch of aussie accent, even as the rat

"As a Skaven life is cheap" that's what needs to be remembered.

@Mikalent

3 жыл бұрын

The best way I explain Skaven to newbies, "They play like Dwarves and Tomb Kings, you main battle line is there to soak damage , not be the main killing power of your army. You special units are what are going to be the main killers, if ANY main battle line unit has more kills than one of your specialist units, you are using them wrong." Except for Warplock Jazzels trying to snipe a hero or lord.

@thanquolrattenherz9665

3 жыл бұрын

skavenlivesmatter, invest in stormvermin instead of slaves and many-many jezzails and ratlingguns yes-yes

@van4802

3 жыл бұрын

@@thanquolrattenherz9665 SKAVEN FIND NO USE FOR STORM VERMIN NO-NO

@Rakshiir

3 жыл бұрын

Very true. "Just throw Slaves at the enemy frontlines and shoot them with everything we have." "We will hit the slaves though." "...There are always move Slaves"

@IronSquid501

3 жыл бұрын

All Skaven life is cheap... Except for mine-mine. Yeeeess.

Wonder if this will be turned into a series like high elf for dummies, vampires for dummies etc.

@treemover7259

3 жыл бұрын

i actually thought thats what this was when i saw the title lol but tbh a how to be effective would be pretty sweet as tbh i struggle with some races due to how they work and there unique faction things (DE slaves, skaven food i used to not understand) along with how to get a working economy and best startup/ later game armies

@aquaramses8776

3 жыл бұрын

Tomb king for dummies would be good.

@dbroccoliman

3 жыл бұрын

I think that would be genius, I'm not a new player by any means, but I learned a lot from this one.

@SMT-ks8yp

3 жыл бұрын

@John Constantine aren't avoiding overexpansion and creating sack-cities common thing which works for every faction?

@ArtistryofDebauchery

3 жыл бұрын

Only if there are dummies who send in disaster campaigns for those factions.

Legend in 2019: my favourite races are tomb kings, high elves and lizardmen Legend now: Skaven might be my favourite race COUNCIL’S MISSION-TASK IS COMPLETE YES-YES!

@FromAgonyToLight

3 жыл бұрын

Horn-ed Rat demands ruler of council. This no-fur Jeff we shall-shall give to Clan Moulder. Use Beastmen corruption...make into Grey Seer...AHAHA

@clarkecorvo2692

3 жыл бұрын

i mean.. it´s understandable, skaven are awesome

Rule 1: There are ALWAYS more rats! Get those skavenslaves!

@gokublack8342

Жыл бұрын

And everything is expendable...except when its not 😂 and everything is expendable if it's killing other things there's no such thing as a Pyhric victory as Skaven 😂

Legend: "I had no intention of winning!" Also Legend: *Wins*

@Zarala2010

3 жыл бұрын

Wins, but without even a single unit getting wiped out. I just realized I had zero clues as to how to play skaven so far. :D

The secret to Skaven is cheese! Yes-yes!

@jamieh4148

3 жыл бұрын

Actually it is rattling guns. :-)

@jimbob4447

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamieh4148 hey don’t forget Jezzails for picking off enemy lords & heroes from 5 miles away

@Hickabooboo

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamieh4148 Ratling guns turn things into swiss cheese though....

Legend: "We keep losing until we win.... by using warp bomb"... Thats a very Skaven tactic

@banilo1022

2 жыл бұрын

"There's only so many of them!" "But the skaven are unlimited-ted!"

@maximhebert-gareau4461

2 жыл бұрын

@@banilo1022 ahaha yes yes

Legend is clearly a Skaven at heart: he's obsessed with cheese. It was there all along, boyos, staring us in the face...

1:35:40 Well, I didn't expect to hear that said in this video or anywhere else. Having not played Skaven yet I actually learned a few things from this. I hope to see more like it.

I thought a “Skaven for dummies” video would be helpful for dummies like me. I feel even dumber after watching this.

@Sir_Bucket

3 жыл бұрын

dummies translation: use slaves to hold the no-furs in place and then shoot all of them down. it's good if the skavenslave unit stays alive at the end, but it's really not necessary. You can recruit them in one turn even with global recruitement, you will always have more rats

@Kazmahu

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sir_Bucket Also helpful to know - spread out the formations a bit. Weapon teams don't like trying to shoot through their own men in a melee. Having them off to the side a bit where they have an unobstructed LOS to some enemy models encourages them to fire much more readily.

@vitortoniolo4880

3 жыл бұрын

Good. You're almost ready to play skavens

@Temmoie

3 жыл бұрын

Put it simple, your skaven slaves, and clan rats are there to be meat shield, they hold the line, use them to create a kill zone for your ranged units. Ranged units are your main DPS source, start with Plagueclaw, Rattling Gun, and Warplock Jazzles. Menace below is very useful, even if it spawns just skaven slaves, provide distraction, making foes out of position, or take out artillery units to help front line live longer.

The Horned One speaks to us us !

"cheese" as it pertains to Skaven........seems so absolutely the way Skaven should be played. It's the shit they would do. Watching Legend play Skaven is so FUCKING enjoyable. (Edit) I wanted to see you continue playing lol.

@chris-il4qu

3 жыл бұрын

It really is fuckin disgusting how lore friendly he plays skaven haha infinite bodies and cheese lol

@tiggerbane4325

3 жыл бұрын

The lack of backstabbing himself is disappointing because of how accurate it is.

I imagine legend enjoying making this video. This is pretty hilarious title.

Skaven were the first race I learned how to play and to this day everytime I see them I get so excited. Video idea: races from best to worst for new players! Back when I was getting started deciding on a race was rough because I didn't know their play styles and I bet a lot of new players get frustrated with this.

THIS is why the title of Legend is well deserved... the last battle was simply EPIC. I love this channel!

Legend doing Skaven impressions is what keeps me sane during a pandemic

We need legend Skaven voice modpack, NOW!

Hm is there any chance the guy just didn't own The Prophet and the Warlock? update: in a similar comment Legend said the guy had DLC RoRs on cooldown. Honestly makes his campaign choices even weirder

@0786RICARDO

3 жыл бұрын

That happened in my first campaign for skaven. Still, they get plague priest and catapults wich are more than enough to win

@murxvanmarx3825

3 жыл бұрын

He also had a Master Warlock Lord, must have had the DLC

@Sir_Bucket

3 жыл бұрын

@@bogdanleshenko7149 he doesn't have any building to make warp-fire throwers or weapons teams, so he probably genuinly tried the melee infantry spam

@JagEterCoola

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sir_Bucket When you're used to Greenskins on Normal :p

@Sir_Bucket

3 жыл бұрын

@@JagEterCoola tbh I'm sure you can get away with a melee spam with Queek

"life is cheap in the skaven burrows" true-true

@Rakshiir

3 жыл бұрын

We let the enemy kill 200 slaves before losing a single artillery or Gatling

Damn. At first I thought you really made a Skaven guide. But it is fine too.

Skavens are the best, yes-yes. Though I think that the best Skaven faction in Vortex is Clan Eshin because they don't have to deal with all those rituals.

@Horvath_Gabor

3 жыл бұрын

Nor do the others. The vortex ritual is a trap; just ignore it, build up your economy and armies, and then smack down the race that triggers the vortex battle with your best doomstack. Repeat two more times, and you are set. Do it as Skryre, and you don't even need a doomstack, just a well-placed nuke and Ikit kiting the enemy army to death on his doomwheel while pelting them with Warp Lightning, and then the two AI armies will clean things up for you.

You really seem to love doing other peoples disaster campaigns. It provides a real insight into a faction when you do, because it's a plan done on the fly. I love your work.

Skaven in a nutshell: first capture region use food to lvl 3. Make plaguecatapults and get skavenslaves. Then make ratatata guns, jezzails and plaguepriests, campaign done:)

Appreciate you taking the time to show us this legend. It will certainly help on my skaven campaign.

I love how much Legend is into the Skaven.

I laughed so hard every time Legend said 'we need to build a wall'. I know it's an old meme, but it still checks out

That last battle was insane.

@Thulgore

3 жыл бұрын

Hilarious too.

I like this series bro, you are definitely the best/most knowledgeable total war guy on KZread you have my vote to do this for every race

I lowkey expected this to be in his famous Skaven voice.

I'm guessing that they were going for the Steam achievement for 10 Plague Monks, figured that the game was telling them to do that for a good reason, and got frustrated that it wasn't working out.

Legend in 2021: doesn't like the Vortex campaign Warhammer 3: hold my chaos realms...

That last battle has glorious. Lul Legend your hilariously delightful.

The victory at the end was beautiful

"But they are cheap!" Yes, yes, more cheese!

Nice format, cool to get some strategic advice in addition to battle tips.

I would love a "Race/clan for dummies." series.

Just 3 Minutes in, and i'm sooo confused as to the building choices this guys has made. I like to build clanrats with shield simply for flavor, but you have the bloody Clan Mors HQ in Yuatek which gives you Clanrats with Shields from the very start. No need for Clan Barracks. Yuatek is at Level 4, but has no Weapons Pile or Construction Cavern? And why Skavenslave Slingers? Even Night Runners are better than them...

@FreeDemonSoul

3 жыл бұрын

Because they freaking cheap.

@longshanksgunner5478

3 жыл бұрын

Skavenslave slingers are easily worth their weight in gold for micro noobs and people who don’t really know what their doing They can drag enemies across the map and cost nothing money wise or micro wise. Source: my first dozen games

I think it's okay to keep one barracks at least just to make a bunch of Stormvermin for Queek early game since they're super cheap for his army. Same way you might get a bunch of Plague Monks in Skrolk's army right away. Otherwise yeah

@vahlen5281

3 жыл бұрын

But even with Queek as the army´s commander. Stormvermin are just so incredibly shit, even in the early game, you might as well skip them entirely, save the money instead of spending it on building/upgrading barracks and focus on getting the good stuff asap instead.

@Kuddochan

3 жыл бұрын

@@vahlen5281 Depends on how you play. Nowadays I usually play on Legendary/Normal because the battle difficulty modifers are so bullshit and do nothing but force you into building ranged/magic-based doomstacks which is super boring. So without AI cheats in battle then the whole "all melee units suck" issue is no longer true and then it's viable. I used to play on Legendary/Very Hard for years but honestly I think the game is more fun this way

@soulkutu

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kuddochan Regardless of the difficulty, nothing changes the fact that ranged/magic spam allows you to win all armies without casualties. Even if Stormvermin actually win their enemies in melee, there is no reason to use them when you can autowin every other battle with weapon teams and plague wizards.

@Tito-vn3ry

3 жыл бұрын

@@soulkutu yeah but you are missing the part where not everyone wants to spam a certain type of unit because that makes most battles monotonous, specially if said units are so strong that they can melt almost any army the ai might sent against you. I personally have been playing this game since launch and prefer to make my armies diverse in most cases and always try to stay well away from very hard difficulty in battle.

@PigreKo

3 жыл бұрын

​@@soulkutu I've found that the min maxing is not that needed to win at legendary. When the Sisters of slaughter were introduced, I found them incredibly fun to use, and my armies almost always had them. There were hard battles and few losses, but it is far from being impossible or annoying to play, battles felt pretty entertaining. I never felt pressed into doomstacking by the game, especially if I want to immerse in the world. But then I go with Leuen 10 Hyppos and 8 Gral Guiardians and a Damsel of life, so sometimes it is fun to go on a rampage.

I love how often I get 'close' victories since I throw waves of slaves to pin the enemy in place as my ratling gunners tear them to pieces, taking no causalities of their own.

@aprinnyonbreak1290

3 жыл бұрын

Skaven players in a nutshell. "I lost 1200 units, but none of them mattered! Why was it close?"

@aaronstorey9712

2 жыл бұрын

@@aprinnyonbreak1290 or i only lost 3 slaves killed 2000 orcs and the autoresolve said deceisive defeat wtf do you mean close victory

Thank you Legend! This was quite insightful!

Thank you! It was really helpful for a noob-beginner rat like my self. Fallen even more in love with the Skaven after this.

35:55 bro you're too good at that

The skaven ending to the vortex campaign is beautiful

Drink everytime he says "But Legend..." in all videos from now on.

Bro , i don’t know why but i like to play your long videos even though i am not familiar with total war and i don’t mostly watch the video , i just like how you explain stuff and i like playing something in the background and your voice isn’t grating , best of luck and keep at it man

I’m going to try skaven because I’m looking for a good ww2 rts.

@oliverw2507

3 жыл бұрын

Jews?

@biowiener7825

3 жыл бұрын

if its not just a meme then try company of heroes

@bigmoedw

3 жыл бұрын

@@biowiener7825 it was for memes. I have played a good deal of CoH 2 it was on super sale recently.

@mickethegoblin7167

3 жыл бұрын

@@oliverw2507 bruh

@NovaDragon97

3 жыл бұрын

@@oliverw2507 wtf is wrong with you

This was incredibly interesting to watch... I have watched a few videos but don't actually own the game myself. Love your videos where you teach and explain. What do you think about a video dedicated to talking about down in the dirt army compositions when in battle?

"Hmm, I could cause a revolt... Let's go back up this way" - and then SCARE CORD

You have taught me so much on how to improve my gameplay in this game. You made me buy the vampire coast dlc just so I can necrofex spam.

"And that's how you Skaven!"

Watching this has been very helpful to just starting.

the last battle is amazing....

step one - skaven slaves step two - ratling gunners step three - profit step four - be clan skryre step five - profit more

I bet this dude doesn't have the Prophet and Warlock DLC.

@LegendofTotalWar

3 жыл бұрын

He does because the regiments of renown were on cooldown

@ElitePraetorianGuard

3 жыл бұрын

@@LegendofTotalWar oh shit youre right. I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt for not having more weapons teams.

>plague monks in Queek's army I'm sorry but not even two minutes into the video I'm facepalming.

@madzaisa

3 жыл бұрын

Legend use single strategy for every Skaven faction. The fact that it's working is the issue with balance since everything else is just crap compared to it.

@Andrius971

3 жыл бұрын

@@madzaisa This isnt even about that. Queek buffs Stormvermin and Clanrats in his army, not plague monks.

@aprinnyonbreak1290

3 жыл бұрын

It's not that unreasonable. Plague Monks look like comparatively good infantry on paper; if someone isn't used to Skaven, then pushing them like you might push other budget elite infantry doesn't seem terribly odd, and the sheer power of the Skaven's ranged options isn't always apparant just from the statsheet. It's a very understandable trap, I think.

By the way I noticed you had a few Crown of Command. They are actually amazing as skaven - making summon unbreakable for 30 sec is very powerful, specially if you have warp bomb

Legend having the time of his life with Skavens yes-yes

Thanks for this, learned a few things I didn't know. That's what I get for just assuming I could figure them out as I played lol. New to the game, and Total War in general, and Skaven are extremely counter-intuitive if you're used to playing other strategy games. Took me 2 failed campaigns to realize that expanding my territory rapidly was *hurting* me. Usually, rapid expansion in a strategy game means you're kicking ass. Didn't discover the importance of Under-Cities until halfway through losing my 3rd campaign. Fingers crossed that this will solve my remaining problems...

A rat appreciates cheese, yes-yes.

I spent that last battle cackling like a Skaven, lol.

Dr. Ikit Claw, or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Warpstone

The McGyver of Total War. Give Jeff 2 Clanrats, a random caster, a paperclip, and some Jack Daniels and he can take out a Dark Elf Doom Stack lead by Lu Bu. My hat is off to you Sir.

This gave me so much nostalgia, I miss SYDC!

"untrusted worm poison after" best queek saying

Hey Legend!!! Love the new video! I’m a veteran total war gamer, and I’m always learning something new in your guides. “CHEESE 4 THE CHEESE GOD”

You need to do a series like this but a little more condensed if possible. Warhammer for Dummies and break down each legendary lord and the strategies around them and what to do with them and what not to do. People would use them as a how to guide. I learned a lot watching this.

Wish I'd seen this before my first few Skaven campaigns!!

This was glorious and that last battle, ohh yes soo skaven, so Epic Yes-Yes

"So basically, we keep losing until we win." And then he proceeds to win with the hefty help of warp suicide bombers.

enjoyed this being a bit of a longer one .... hope you do more saving your campaigns as aposed to just battles.

We need a generic Skaven lord voiced by Legend for WH 3.

this was super helpful for me! Warhammer 2 is my first ever Total War game and I chose to play as Queek to learn how to play. even tho this video was more on the situational side i picked up a lot of information!

Legend you do a Skaven voice absurdly well

hahahah. I think you are gradually turning into a skaven mate. It won't be long before you start squirting musk during your streams. I swear you do when warp bombs go off hahahaha. Cheers for the tips old chap.

You're brutally honest.... I'm getting used to it now 😁

Really funny to see how your so enjoy to play scavens :)

This has really helped with my clan eshin campaign as well, ive now killed Malus, krock-gor and that dragon elf. and ive confed with clan mors and have qweek as a lord only thing left is to take the orcs out but grimgors faction is huge now. i've got assassins running around everywhere aswell...please do more of these! getting about 10k a turn now

Hooooly crap this was awesome! I lol'ed so many time people around me were getting curious. XD

This campaign reminds me of playing WRE in TW: Attila. Gotta triage the multiple massive problems, focus on improving your important provinces, etc.

How to play Skaven: Send in the rats and then drop a nuke on the blob!

Skaven voice during first minute of the video nice

That last battle haha That is how you Skaven :)

we all serve the council of 13

Big note for new players: rattling guns and jezaels are DLC units and are basically the endgame for skaven. I’m fairly new myself and tried skaven one time and felt like I had trouble getting a strong army together against lizard men only to find out that I was missing what seems to be pretty essential units.

@aprinnyonbreak1290

3 жыл бұрын

It's unfortunate, but Clan Skyre is essentially a mandatory purchase for anyone that wants to play Skaven.

This is so good. Subbed.

Exasperated, not exacerbated.

I always knew skaven suits his playstyle

the thing I struggled with the gun obstruction mechanics in my first skaven campaign lol

Not even 10 min in and I've already learned more about playing Skaven than I've gotten from any other source of Warhammer 2 content.

@alfonsocyrusjoshua9551

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@andypants1000

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@boughtagun2088

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr

That last battle was basically a Rambo movie. If Rambo were a skaven.

Oh man did I need this about 14hrs ago

How curious that this happened the same on me, like hating the skaven when I started playing and now being my favourite race xD

That last battle though...

Also I found out that sacking and looting the same turn a 4-5 level settlement is actually bad for money because it destroys almost all buildings. It's more cost-effective just loot because it leaves some high tier buildings

Skaven battle tactics: " We won the battle " " At what cost? " " Nothing, just some slaves lol "

First time ever watching Legend @3.29 mins I laughed @1.35.48 I subbed.

You got me on "wwWarpstone!"