"It's like match made in hell" yes, yes

@ecargfosreya

Жыл бұрын

A match made in Hellpit

Two factions who exemplified modern approach to warfare (big guns shooting far) dunk on dudes who exemplify cavemen tribal approach to warfare (big blobs of dudes rushing forward.) Yeah, this was a MATCH MADE IN HELL.

@user-vo4xv4zi1t

Жыл бұрын

What the fuck

Skaven make everything better, yes-yes. Seeimg Dreadquakes rapid fire like they are here is truly a beautiful sight. I love the Skaven, I'm so going to get a few of these for my Skaven armies sometime soon.

Reminded me of an Age of Empires III game I once played where I used the Ottomans to blast the crap out of the Iroquois using Jannisaries and Great Bombards. All in all it's actually cool to see a doomstack work out based on units gained through alliances

Skaven make everything better, yes-yes!

Thomas the tank engine and his pals committing warcrimes alongside the skaven sure is a sight to behold

Great video, Legend. It looked like you enjoyed using this army, and I think that made this one particularly fun!

Imagine Theodin Screaming reform the line reform the line. Only for him to turn and see burning flaming bodies absolutely everywhere. Also fuck that begged for a nuke as the second group of reinforcements rocked up

Seeing the comments below regarding how different their experiences were depending on the difficutly level, i'd argue that i would like to see Legend re-doing this battle but on "Normal" difficulty setting. Just to see how he manages to deal with rushing A.I. instead of the one easy picking blob he got there.

@williammitchell6254

Жыл бұрын

Ai doesn't change right just buffs.

@anon4854

9 ай бұрын

@@williammitchell6254 AI aggression level changes. Some people report the AI rushes more on lower difficulties.

@magni5648

9 ай бұрын

@@williammitchell6254 Lower difficulty AI does change. It's more willing to pick unfavourable fights and rush ahead, doesn't pick targets for missile units or focus-fire as much and is a lot worse at dodging spells and artillery.

there is something mesmerizing in watching dreadquake mortar shoot. Also isn't it better to have ratlingun?

@Wolfspaule

Жыл бұрын

A few maybe, but the jezails have the needed anti-large (Mortars anti-inf) and have way more range and accuracy.

@devinrogerson3035

Жыл бұрын

I think having at least 4 ratling guns replace 4 of the warplock jezzails would be a bit better in regards of cleaning up approaching blobs if the dreadquake mortars let anything through. But damn, what a strong doomstack!

@zankaa8031

Жыл бұрын

@Forrest Mcgee nah it's not a problem if you're using all ranged units, LoS issues only hurt ratlings really if you've got melee infantry

@quint3ssent1a

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's like a fantasy ICBM being launched from a missile truck.

@ktvindicare

Жыл бұрын

Probably a couple for the suppression.

Hmm, wonder how this would stack with Eltharion. Though getting the relations up for long enough would be incredibly hard.

@Someguy4321

Жыл бұрын

Infinite ammo and skaven engineers... Delightful.

@1453YT

Жыл бұрын

Really easy, confederate Imrik and just sell his terrority to Drazhoath, maybe kill the nearby dwarfs or ogres to sweeten the deal. The landmarks Imrik occupies are good, however, so I don't reccomend it nescessary, but it's very do-able.

@quint3ssent1a

Жыл бұрын

With artillery being THIS efficient you don't need to restore their ammo too much. Maybe if you want to have an easier victory because restored ammo = restored balance of power, which makes achieving army losses easier.

@1453YT

Жыл бұрын

@@quint3ssent1a I agree, but it's a fun thought excerise.

@miloradlukic9277

Жыл бұрын

well, eltharion got infinite money with exploit so its not hard

Btw legend. About not having all the outpost units with the chaos dwarfs: It's bugged right now. I don't know why this always happens with some factions. Guess CA can't be asked to enter every unit of the roster into the list. You cannot get lava cannons for example. I know people dont like mods, but I can only recommend the mod "Fixed Allied Outposts(Lite)", to have normally functioning experiences with outposts xD

@bigrockwall8700

Жыл бұрын

I actually had an issue with using global recruitment to get magma cannon. You have to leave the building at its initial tier that shows recruitment for magma cannon. If you upgrade it, magma cannon poofs from global, but another base level arty building restores it to the global pool.

I actually think slapping a magma cannon or two in here instead of just four mortars might be great as well. Magma cannons inflict less, but still remarkably high damage on infantry, but they've got 25 ammo base opposed to 15, so they'd get to shoot way, way longer. Making the margin of error greater on this army. Really don't need 4 distraction units.

@easytanksgaming3238

Жыл бұрын

And they reeeally more accurate. Shooting at infantry blobs is goddamn effective with magma cannons, especially in scenario where enemy tries to reform. I even think that one magma cannon on auto fire with little bit targeting can be more effective than dq mortar in that battle lol

Is it just me, or do the DQ mortars seem to be a lot less accurate in this compared to the last doomstack video with them in?

@thomasedgar8612

Жыл бұрын

i dont think that the DQ mortars have all 9 ranks, also they deal less damage and have less accuracy due to a lack of army buffs from the lord

@todhold2673

Жыл бұрын

Also, they're going up against greenskins and also, legend is absolute shit at micromanaging the targets. It would be better if he could get the warlock engineers into a chaos dwarf army though.

I believe the current AI in the Warhammer 3 was imported directly from Warhammer 1, not 2 And they are fixing it bit by bit by implementing improvements that were present in Warhammer 2

@LuzikArbuzik77

Жыл бұрын

Why would they do that?

@alirezarezaei2976

Жыл бұрын

@@LuzikArbuzik77 It is complicated but the short answer is that warhammer 3 was in the process of making during the Warhammer 2 life cycle and during that time they couldn't use the Warhammer 2 stuff as the base foundation for Warhammer 3 so they had to rely on older version which was the Warhammer 1 to use it as the base platform to start creating warhammer 3 on top of it And that is why you see a lot of weird things happening in Warhammer 3 that were fixed way back in Warhammer 2 but reintroduced again in Warhammer 3 The reason behind most of these bugs and missbehaviers are outdated sources that CA created the Warhammer 3 on top of them.

@LuzikArbuzik77

Жыл бұрын

@@alirezarezaei2976 That actually makes a lot of sense. Thank you for sharing this theory!

2:36 LMAO THEIR COMICALLY FAST 😂 4:50 CHAOS DWARVES DON'T HAVE SUPPLY LINES!?! 11:15 Jezails start shooting

@adriankoch964

Жыл бұрын

No supply lines, but unit caps that aren't cheap to increase on top of pricey base unit cost.

@DIEGhostfish

Жыл бұрын

​@@adriankoch964 True, but hobgobs are cheap and I would say shit all over Ungors.

Full torpedo spread, maximum yield!

Speaking of difficulty try this battle on normal difficulty, instead of very hard I think AI will rush you compared to very hard, I was playing chorfs on vh vh and battles were very easy then did one hard battle on normal and actually lost cuz AI rushed me lol Edit: also as chorfs on vh I've won like 90% of mid-late game battles with just 2-3 deamonsmith sorcerer lords/heroes in army because AI refuses to shoot at lords/heroes mounted on great/bale taurus but will absolutely shoot them if they're on lammasu, but if you play on normal difficulty they will shoot at them no matter the mount and will rush you if shoot them or cast a spell on them which funny enough can make buttles on normal harder then on vh lol

@Dianbler

Жыл бұрын

I have played with Dreadquakes on normal battle and they usually do this as well

@Bluemangrup

Жыл бұрын

I thought I was crazy (or terrible) cuz I kept having battles that seemed harder than Legends and I play on normal, glad to see it's just AI being weird on different difficulties lol

@gabbagangster

Жыл бұрын

Man thanks for opening my eyes, I kept losing battles that seemed way easier than those of Legend and was just zerg rushed to death so often, so normal battle difficulty is just harder except you play ina very specific way wow. Well you could say that goes both ways

Really feels like the artillery aimed for the models at the edge of each formation a lot more than in previous dreadquake videos. in earlier videos a single shot would almost wipe out a unit and for whatever reason they consistently had issues with that. Not that it matters at all, but it does seem interesting.

according to CA in their blog on height, the extra speed boosts caps out at 50% over the base speed

I’m a little confused, the damage from the mortars seemed underwhelming in this one. In the chorf stack they were deleting units with 1 shot

@shadowblade5656

Жыл бұрын

lots of spread-out infantry, which are more resistant to artillery and explosions

@musclegeek1991

Жыл бұрын

@@shadowblade5656 now that I think about it I bet it has more to do with not being buffed by chorf tech and not having hellforge upgrades

@Shero1337

Жыл бұрын

They get no redline buffs from the lord and savage orcs have high HP + physical resistance.

the "BWAEOUM" the mortar shell makes on impact is marvelous :-)

Awesome video man! Keep it up!

It’s so cool they added allies into the game. I bring some Clan Pestilence in my Nurgle army on tabletop.

if you had 19 warlock engineers how low would the DQ mortars's reload time go? can we get a dreadquake autocannon? is this something okoii should definitely try?

@padmeamidala8731

Жыл бұрын

yesyes rat-things make-make mortar-thing shoot fast-fast

@wiI1776

Жыл бұрын

Sadly, there is a hard cap on reload speed. Regardless of what the number on the stat card says :(

@drazarkabalblade9486

Жыл бұрын

Even if you make reload speed to 0, there's a cap dictated by the animations, which cannot be sped up in any way. The "reload" is the time the take between shots, more or less.

@Garret007

Жыл бұрын

@@drazarkabalblade9486 Yeah, exactly. In my experience, lowering the reload time to less than 4 usually does nothing. However: a reload time of 4 seconds is already great and hella fun. Especially since some gun units inflict kind of a kockback on enemies that they hit.

The only problem with DQ mortars is that when they shoot a wall or a large unit the explosion is way smaller and deals less damage i dont know why

@devinrogerson3035

Жыл бұрын

Not impacting the ground most likely which is where the "quake" comes in. can't have an earthquake without the earth.

@Morris_Minor

Жыл бұрын

Makes sense because they're a mortar. Would be op if they could do everything. And the chorfs have enough op stuff

@alikh4541

Жыл бұрын

@@Morris_Minor but Queen bess or even other artillery have no problem doing that Also when a unit is OP who cares let it be OP its fun

@LuzikArbuzik77

Жыл бұрын

​​@@alikh4541 fun comes from facing a challenge, which is lacking when you have one unit that can easily kill basically everything without any synergy or effort. A unit being strong against everything also makes other units in that type redundant, so the armies are less varied and more repetetive, therefore quite boring. You want arty that's good against monsters? Use some Deathshriek Rocket Launchers. Or simply take some Infernal Fireglaives. Use your brain instead of trying to make everything godlike, is what I am trying to say.

@alikh4541

Жыл бұрын

@@LuzikArbuzik77 im not saying it should delete Monsters im talking about the blast radius being reduced when shelling a wall or a big entity even if it hits a cav model. I agree that most fun comes with a challenge but strong units is also fun thats why people doomstack The power creep is fun also If u want challenge with chorfs dont recruit OP units but the option should be there in my humble opinion

After all those disasters you save, you deserved something this satisfying mate. Still waiting for you to do my dual axe centaur build though 👍

When you are a tier 4 civilization fighting a tier 2 civilization...............thats what this fight looks like.

@LuzikArbuzik77

Жыл бұрын

More like when human brain fights broken WH 3 AI that is unable to flank and swarm or even attack the enemy before the reinforcment comes in.

To be honest, some blunderbuss in front of the ratling gunners sounds like a great addition too

@DIEGhostfish

Жыл бұрын

Cap of 4 borrowed unitsm

My late game DQs playing as Draz have 594 missile strength and a reload time of 8.1 seconds, which is actually faster than the 10 second reload in this skaven doomstack

Did they change the projectile colors for jezzails? I liked how their bullets were little green neon lasers in Warhammer 2.

Hearing "Horned Rat sees us!" never gets old.

“Let’s jump the wall here” might be the best worst translation of the intro ever!!

A match made in hell!!!😂 That's a good one!

big big brain.. yes yes

gunna have to try this now, sheeet

Legend's inner child loves the train noises.

I love the video, but you could've been using the Warlock's ability to increase accuracy and reload skill on the Dreadquakes, which would've made them far stronger.

"Time to give Thomas the Tank Engine some warp-crack! Yes-yes!"

@Legend the Campaign vs battle mode missile strength stats for the Chaos Mortars seems different?

yes-yes of course skaven make it better man-thing

Glorious yes-yes!

I wonder what the vamp coast would be able to do with those

There still seems to be an issue where ranged units fire at the corner of units

Nothing like the smell of warpstone in the morning

This is amazing.

Skaven this time!! Yes yes!

120 speed on that freaking thing 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

There seem to be also no magma cannon for allied recruitment - a bug or feature?

cant believe there was no doom rocket at the end

Glorious.

The initial reinforcements blob were just begging to be nuked lol

You could steal some castellans and or daemonsmiths for reloads and heals to really crank it up to 11

any unit that doesnt shoot in an arc usually needs a hill where they face down so they dont derp out. cause of line of sight

Anyone else disappointed he didn't finish them off with a nuke?

Your videos are cool Legend.

One of the reasons i dislike the mortars with engines is the because sometimes the mortars wont shot based on your orders like on 17:30 ish. Its probably because of the dual ammo system.

What I learned that if you have Dreadquake Mortar - anything is possible. JUST. DO IT!

The reason you probably cant recruit regular Dreadquakes is probably because those silly bastards at CA gave both the regular and the iron daemon versions the same unit card so whoever implemented the outpost recruitment didnt realize they were leaving out the normal version! LMAO

10 settlements but heaps of undercities is big brain rat play

Nice

Best Friend-allies!

What about if you play as CH Dwarf and you make aliance with another CH Dwarf and than you borrow this unit, is there also unit cap?

In an effort to make the battles more challenging, it seems like CA inadvertently dumbed down the AI.

105 speed artillery, holy shit

Quick question for you folks, i never bother to build outposts with my allies because they never have anything interesting to get from. They, most of the time, have low to mid tier units even in their capital and ofc there is not another outpost already built in it. So am i just unlucky ? does creating an outpost incite the AI to build better buildings ?

@michaelfetter4541

Жыл бұрын

If you upgrade an outpost to level 2 you get access to the factions global pool of units not just the ones in the province it's in. Very helpful if another faction already has an outpost in the province with all the good units. I don't think building one incites the AI to build better buildings though.

Can you explain why enemy units don't charge into battle ? In my battles after some damage they all come my way

@robman102

Жыл бұрын

They charge on normal difficulty. He is on very hard difficulty where the A.I. waits for its reinforcements.

Warlock engineers should get the Dwarf engineer rework.

Yeaaah ! That’s a fun one, it gets my vote anytime over a one man doomstack, 10/10AAA 🫶

So take the time to steal a hellsmith hero and get the heals? Seems like that might be worth it.

18:42 Why cunning trait is not as good as WH2? Can someone explain?

Watching this 13 days after its posted

Skaven and chaos dwarves prove that total war warhammer 40k could work.

Eltharion+ Warlock engenier + DQ mortars= perfection

@syrusalder7795

Жыл бұрын

oh god

@RaxoFilms

Жыл бұрын

Could you even pull that off though lol, relations seem hard to do if thats the case

@Sternmayer

Жыл бұрын

@@RaxoFilms you'd have to take over N'khai's cities and give them to Eltharion to improve relations so much.

Skavens would probably like to have hellcannons. Also less expensive.

So funny thing. Warlock engineers and Infernal Castellan both give the 10% dmg buff to ranged units.. but the ability does not work without a 'loaded character' for the Castellan.. making him useless in custom battles compared the engineers... well multiplayer specifically.

So this is more a showcase of bullying bad ai than a useful doomstack.

Nothing-notice here-here. Morskittar Engines not for the weak-weak!

Yes-yes skaven make-make better than stupid bearded things!!!!

I was pretty disappointed to find that allied chorf units still count towards your cap when playing chorfs, making them pretty pointless. Good to see that limitation doesn't carry to other factions.

Are there any artillery doomstacks?

@IceTea-ud6ws

Жыл бұрын

Necrofex if you want to count it as artillery

Orcs are definitely tougher than High Elves. Even though they were getting pounded it wasn't as bad as the High Elf video where they were getting deleted instantly.

chief you and I both know why that choo-choo noise is funny, you think we're sitting down for hours worth of total war content because we DONT have the tism?

artillery is king of the battlefield

Blud played this campaign as passively as thorek ironbrow ai in wh2 💀

How did he even get iron demons from the alliance? When I build alliance buildings in chorf territory it only lets me recruit the basic units.

@iforgotmyname1669

Жыл бұрын

You have to make sure you build your outpost in the most developed ally city (normally their starting capital if you can) or you will just have to wait until your ally decides to construct the appropriate building to recruit the units you want. Normally, most AI factions don't get tier 5 units until turn 70+ so if you are rushing the alliance you probably just have to wait a while and make sure they are doing well so they can focus less on recruiting armies from battling and more on infrastructure. Sometimes they might not build the right building you want at all, then you will have to move your outpost entirely to a different settlement with the right military buildings. The ally recruitment pool is based on the military buildings in the city by the way.

@SaltyRocksPew

Жыл бұрын

@@iforgotmyname1669 yeah It says I can recruit fireglaives and iron demons, but when I go to actually recruit them, the only option I have is blunderbusses the lamasu.and the laborers. I am making sure I am selecting a province which has the untits available, they are just unable to be recruited, even with a tier 3 outpost.

@SaltyRocksPew

Жыл бұрын

nevermind I just restarted the game and it worked god bless you CA

@Garret007

Жыл бұрын

@@SaltyRocksPew the outposts are still bugged sadly, I couldn't get lava cannons in my campaign for example. And yea, legend couldn't see the other mortar versions in this video either. For those that are not afraid of mods: "Fixed Allied Outposts(Lite)" will fix it until CA fixes it

More Booom Yes Yes!

I've got this alliance the other way round blunder busses and poison win globadiers firing into the same blob is isntant and immediate death

Have dreadquakes been nerfed? The explosion seems itself smaller and deals less damage

Can you save and load stolen heroes?

I thought they nerfed Engineers stacking to not stack at all.

pls help me to fix slow motion in battel :(

Match made in Chaos realms.

Chooo Chooo mfers ! holy horned rat, that is scary

You should have made the title a match made in hellpit

No Allied Recruitment Cap mod

I see battles like this and how the AI just derps around in circles until their army is dead and realize they made better AI's over 30 yeara ago, it would be an improvement for it to just mindlessly attackmove compared to this

To be fair, jezails kill infantry just fine, they are good at killing everything but flanking fast cav

Hot spicy Cheese's Red pepper flake Dawi improve warpstone yes yes

It isn't pathetic. It's different style.