Tretch has the best diplomacy lines, though. So i suppose that's one saving grace. " Treaty-pact possible, but only if you stand in this exact position!"

@dennoplit3728

3 жыл бұрын

Many-many stormvermin between me and you-you

@bificommander7472

3 жыл бұрын

"The painters moved your desk, sir." "Ah, yes-yes"

@L_Monke

3 жыл бұрын

"MEAT-FLESH! GET IN MY GUT-GUT! Hhhn. Hhhhn. Sorry-sorry. Am so hungry..."

@diocletianscabbage7972

3 жыл бұрын

“You don’t impress me, elf-thing! I can run-flee faster.”

@Sterage1984

3 жыл бұрын

"A Pact, good, to seal bond I just need to spray my-my MUSK on you!"

Tretch Craventail is #1 in our hearts. "Stay here I'll get help!"

@justanotherfan52

3 жыл бұрын

Why are you saying this-these things? Does he have-keep you-your family?

@barbiquearea

3 жыл бұрын

Also Tretch is the only one who won't have to give up a legendary weapon to steal the Widowmaker for himself.

@Sergeilol20

3 жыл бұрын

"I lead, from rear!"

@macragge115

3 жыл бұрын

Hugs for tretch

@tanasaky

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Tretch is a good boy, why everybody bully him? :(

Legend trying his best to genuinely compliment Tretch is hilarious.

@nzoth66

3 жыл бұрын

Dude the vanguard for the whole army is pretty good the rest is shit

@nzoththedeepwatcher1616

3 жыл бұрын

@@nzoth66 Oh? And tell me where are your old doomflayers? Be nice ~

@torquevonthorne948

3 жыл бұрын

@@nzoth66 Also his campaign movement range and increased ambush success chance are pretty good

@aeriawindsor4722

3 жыл бұрын

Why would you think vanguard deployment on Skaven is useful? When as Skaven you should always ambushing the enemy anyway.

@nzoth66

3 жыл бұрын

@@aeriawindsor4722 bc vanguard deploy its like an ambush every battle even if they atack u dah!!

3 skaven disguised as a man ranking the power levels of their superiors. We've come full circle.

@santiagosilva2528

3 жыл бұрын

Legend is definitely the leader of the skaven

@popepepe6042

3 жыл бұрын

Legend is the horned rat

@The_RazorCode

2 жыл бұрын

Remember when he hated the skaven?

@Eddneton94

2 жыл бұрын

@@The_RazorCode that was before warhammer total war 2 Vietnam

I would appreciate Tretch more if he had a giant spoon to go with that giant fork of his in battle.

@MrEddie4679

3 жыл бұрын

@@Asraeks -You fool-dumbed me! -We-ous is SKaven Dumb-Dumb!

@klavicus2276

3 жыл бұрын

I das this fork and thought first for real? Did he come from gardening before battle? Funny feature xD

@ICanHazRecon911

3 жыл бұрын

comically large spoon

@grief6052

3 жыл бұрын

@@Asraeks now i want this animated

Is Alarielle a cyber-rat that can ride two different rat wheels of death? Didn't think so.

@ILikeTheThingsIDo

3 жыл бұрын

Cyberrat 2077.

@khosrowzare8301

3 жыл бұрын

She rides Tyrion and Malakith, so I guess that counts?

@espatecfuet7968

3 жыл бұрын

@@khosrowzare8301 and the phoenix king

@thegamergriffin2910

3 жыл бұрын

@@ILikeTheThingsIDo i mean...id play it

@SallinKari

3 жыл бұрын

So this is what makes good rat.

HAIL! The Empire would like me to inform everyone this video is a fabrication for this no such thing as "ratmen" or "skaven" please go on your day in sigma's name

@josephmclaughlin933

3 жыл бұрын

yes-yes no skaven in emipre-manfilth lands, please-please pay no thought-mind to the cave-dens being dug under your city yes-yes!

@grimdarhk

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephmclaughlin933 ......Sir I'm pretty sure this guy is one of those Rat things

@josephmclaughlin933

3 жыл бұрын

@@grimdarhk lies!

@Lionheart6667

3 жыл бұрын

I think we clearly found some Heretics! We shall be dispensing Warrior priests at once .

@dmyt58

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lionheart6667 No-no not come in cave. We no fight, no enemy of manlings. No trap-trap here

Ikit Claw and Lord Skrolk, the only two Skaven Legendary Lord spellcasters are basically Darth Vader and Emperor Palpatine.

@theshushu7940

3 жыл бұрын

Beautiful.

@Johann_Gambolputty_of_Ulm

3 жыл бұрын

I can see Ikit as Palps, considering he shoots lightning and has access to WMD, but Skrolk as Vader? Yes, he has a wheezing voice, but Vader didn't smell bad (or did he...)

@theshushu7940

3 жыл бұрын

@@Johann_Gambolputty_of_Ulm I thought of Ikit as Vader and Skrolk as Palps. The aesthetic and theme I guess. Although the lightning makes sense.

@OniGanon

3 жыл бұрын

Surely Skrolk would be Plageuis, because... plague... Okay I'm going...

@eracer166

3 жыл бұрын

@@OniGanon I thought he'd be more of a nihilus.

Tretch provides one ability that Legend didn't mention, the vanguard ability for his entire army. When I've got a weapons team army that allows for better positioning on the battlefield to start. Not that it would change the ranking but does add some benefit.

@torum6448

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, yes especially when you’re attacked by two armies, that works wonders

@stuntman083

2 жыл бұрын

this alone elevates him to #1

@ZetsubouGintama

2 жыл бұрын

Yes-Yes! POINT BLANK RATLING GUNS DEATH KILL!

@MN-vz8qm

Жыл бұрын

Indeed, vanguard deployment is huge, but mostly for melee oriented armies. I guess someone taking advantage of the skaven range weaponry would not mind that much vanguard deployment

"I don't find myself revolting that much" Oh Legend, we don't think you're revolting either!

@KazeKoichi

3 жыл бұрын

Legend is absolutely revolting. He is simply breathtaking.

LegendofTotalWar: Alarielle is 10/10 lord Me: Yes, but does she have nukes?

@untyprandom9319

3 жыл бұрын

@@mcmarkmarkson7115 Flash info: Lothern (cuz Avelorn got confederated) no longer exist while a big rat with 3 knives laugh

@thorn2794

3 жыл бұрын

@@untyprandom9319 wut

@Joyexer

3 жыл бұрын

@@mcmarkmarkson7115 But its not a nuke (: so not as cool

@generalharness8266

3 жыл бұрын

He does not rate lords on Faction effects. Nukes are faction.

@untyprandom9319

3 жыл бұрын

@@generalharness8266 he wasn't criticizing the video.

Thing I like about Tretch is that he’s the sanest of the legendary skavens. The rest are (with the possible exception of sniktch) just not quite right in the head.

@fuchsmichael93

3 жыл бұрын

great power comes with gread madness, yes yes

@khosrowzare8301

3 жыл бұрын

Sanity

@mrgabest

3 жыл бұрын

Just wait until Thanquol gets added to the game. Have you ever asked what it would be like if Teclis was a giant rat that snorted warpstone cocaine? Wonder no longer.

@diocletianscabbage7972

3 жыл бұрын

@@fuchsmichael93 Thus said Uncle Ikit?

@bigolbearthejammydodger6527

3 жыл бұрын

We we have no idea what you mean! Stick him dirty virulent plagues - NO antisocial disdistancing! Throw him in mutagen he needs 2 heads to think better better! strap him to BOOM BOOM rocket! YES YES!

"1 menace below is capable of dealing with any artillery unit in the game." *Confused lizard noises*

@juhotorppa9280

3 жыл бұрын

Made my day 😂

@zeroner777

3 жыл бұрын

add some wood elf noises too i guess

@dostayer3369

3 жыл бұрын

These aren't artilleries, these are dinosaurs which happen to carry ballistas... The dinosaurs are the main thing here, the artillery is just a bonus...

@YayapLives

3 жыл бұрын

@@dostayer3369 bah, semantics :p

@lolasdm6959

3 жыл бұрын

HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

24:19 Watching Ikit Claw yeet za lady off screen then laugh afterwards was something I didn't know I needed

"I don't find myself revolting that much" , good on you and your self-steem x)

@Someone-lg6di

3 жыл бұрын

The factions that revolted the most for me was ovn Albion and chaos dwarf factions

@Daniel_deez_nutz

3 жыл бұрын

@@Someone-lg6di ah man those chaos dwarves are so powerful I loved it. Albion was kinda meh, probably because of that crappy start position.

This is my most anticipated for me personally as a devoted believer of the cheese.

@jabloko992

3 жыл бұрын

Jeff smiles on you brother!

I feel like Tretch should be given some credit for the ability to give vangaurd deployment to the entire army. I've had a lot of games where I decimated the enemy archers and artillery immediately because I put rat ogres and hell pits into their back line. I don't think this was mentioned in the video.

IKIT The One True RAT ABOVE THEM All YES-YES !!!!!

@angryzergling7832

3 жыл бұрын

If you have any doubt that Claw is the best-best, then this clip will change your mind: 24:18 - 24:25 Cracked me up.

@kingdiplomacy

3 жыл бұрын

Clan Skryre reigns supreme!

If Tretch isn't no 1 I'm comeing to Australia to coughing on Legend.

@a.hollins8691

3 жыл бұрын

Better get your ticket ready.

@dennoplit3728

3 жыл бұрын

Spells of plague

@Dancan799

3 жыл бұрын

Well he was first that’s something right?

@jellydamgood

3 жыл бұрын

1st means last in upside down land, so he's safe I guess.

@Vasiliy9hells

3 жыл бұрын

Well, he *is* number 1 but from the wrong end of the list

Wasn't Tretch's entire thing in the lore that he was a great strategist? Like a Skaven Sun Tzu? I feel like they could have given him more unique mechanics to reflect that instead of just making him blow

@williammccroskey2433

3 жыл бұрын

There's a mod for that but hope some point he gets a well deserved buff

@CrimsonUltrafox

2 жыл бұрын

Well he does get vanguard deployment for his army like Vlad which is really good for a weapon's team. I confederated him into my Moulder campaign and gave him an army just to see if I can make use out of him. He ended up being the most useful along with Throt himself.

@torpid2906

Жыл бұрын

Trench was done dirty and is still being done dirty

Most of the OP Skaven stuff really lies in the faction abilities themselves of the DLC factions rather than the legendary lords in the end

The quick faction rundown at the end was cool and I think it could be added to future lord ranking videos, sometimes a lord is better than the faction they're in and vice versa. Especially for newer players it would be interesting to have a general idea of the faction power.

@TheEagleant

3 жыл бұрын

I going to start my first skaven campaign soon and the faction run down at the end makes things so much clearer

Queek has a base of 420 weapon strength. Dank.

Tretch was always my favorite character in WH Fantasy and remains my favorite character in Total war. Love the geezer.

*Timestamps* 🎬🎥 00:41 Tretch Craventail 05:08 Deathmaster Snikch 08:46 Queek Headtaker 12:36 Throt the Unclean 15:43 Lord Skrolk 19:39 Ikit Claw

we've been waiting for this

@sicthemutt

3 жыл бұрын

Yesyes

@ryandodson1460

3 жыл бұрын

Far too long long

Great to see Skrolk getting some love for a change. When I'm playing other Skaven clans, he's actually the one I prefer to grab more than even Ikit Claw. Having the ability to straight-up recruit plague priests with not just vermintide, but maxed plague and arcane conduit? Insane. Each new army from that point feels like it's online immediately. He's even surprisingly decent in melee (read: at tying down enemy units while you shoot them), with little to no skill investment.

Glad to see my boi Skrolk getting some love, i do believe he's quite underrated. Notably, recruiting plague priests at such a high level is really valuable. Also good job on including a brief comparison of the various clan mechanics at the end; these comparison vids are really useful when picking which campaign to try next, or which DLC to buy

@michael35889

3 жыл бұрын

Skrolk is a really powerful lord. And the highest value confed target if you're not playing as him.

@leto22cz

3 жыл бұрын

@@michael35889 I would highly recommend playing with 2 mods - Recruit Defeated Legendary Lords + Re-Skill confederated Lords /it applies to Defeated Lords too....True it takes out the thrill of racing against time, but in my last 3 skaven campaigns Skrolk got deleted within first 30turns, there is no way I could ever confederated him in time....and you get the bigger chance to get those juicy trait of far away LL as the mods applies to AI too....

Lore of Plague is a really good lore of plague, got it.

@sharpasacueball

3 жыл бұрын

It's better than Eshin lore, that's for sure

Even before watching this video: Ikit is the number 1, Yes-Yes!

@Batmack

3 жыл бұрын

For what i've seen about Throt, i think so. Not that i would complain, if it keeps power creep under control.

@geobugseon

3 жыл бұрын

probably Skrollk

@bokitoboss1993

3 жыл бұрын

Tretch all the way. If someone gives you 10.000 to 1 odds take the bet!

Lord Ikit Claw not ten-ten out of ten-ten? Oh boi-man, you are in big trouble-boom! *Loads ratling gun*

Really good video Legend, I appreciate that you briefly discussed the faction mechanics and how they rank up that is something I feel has been missing from your other ranking videos. Keep up the great work.

I think we're gonna need a Starting faction power comparison video in the future, cuz some lords aren't that good but their specific faction mechanics are amazing.

@dantefiore8442

3 жыл бұрын

High elves are defiantly beginner friendly with a not crazy starting position, good lords and a powerful roster

*”Skaven Engineering is Greatest-Best in the world! yes-yes!”*

finally! altough we already know basicly whos da best but i rly like those vids. Lizardmen also have 6 ll so maybe next time them then?

@theStamax

3 жыл бұрын

Hmm could be interesting yeah. Don't think it's that easy for LM besides the number 6 and 5 spot (gotta be Tiq Taq Toe and kroxi boi). Top 1 might be mazdamundi and number 2 might be kroq gar. Strongest Faction is clearly Cult of Sotek, but since that isn't factored in I'd expect Tehenhauin to probably come in third (though he'd probably be number 2 in battle power behind Mazdamundi). Mb TOP 2, but not too familiar with Kroq Gar and Mazdamundi. I'd guess Gor'Rok is number 4.

@dmitriyk.2890

3 жыл бұрын

Legend said he will only make such videos if new DLC for the faction comes out. So no Lizardmen anytime soon but WE viodeo will be up a few days later.

@sonyponygaming2471

3 жыл бұрын

@@theStamax you saying the cult of sotek is the best is facetious right? And if not, why do you think that? Genuinely curious.

@theStamax

3 жыл бұрын

@@sonyponygaming2471 Oh, not facetious at all. I think that's pretty widely agreed as well. Let me elaborate. We are talking purely faction here (separating it from Tehenhauin, since you can always confederate legendary lords anyways). CoS has by far the strongest campaign mechanic of the LM. Arguably, it is the strongest only by the merit of it being one out of two for LM, but I genuinely think their sacrificial altar is probably around the better ones out there in general. Now why is it actually that good? Personally I love that it boosts Red Crested Skinks to a point where they are actually viable, even on legendary, but that's not really why it's good. The main reason is that Tehenhauin gets access to a follower that reduces upkeep for the entire army ... and you can equip this on heroes as well. It's the only lizardmen faction that can get free armies basically. Which is massive for a faction who's biggest weakness is economy. There's some other good stuff there as well like global growth, movement rate or public order, but the followers are the big one.

I remember Legend saying that he won't do lords comparisons until the next dlc is out. And just yesterday I thought 'Maybe we'll get one soon. Probably skaven or wood elves.'

@theStamax

3 жыл бұрын

Over the last week or so he repeatedly said he'd like to do them before the dlc comes out on stream. Wood Elves and Skaven that is. Seems like he got to Skaven first (even though he originally thought about doing welves first).

@SereglothIV

3 жыл бұрын

@@theStamax I didn't watch any of his streams lately. I want to experience the DLC fresh, not after seeing everything on youtube.

Queek is the best and the true king of the eight peaks, yes-yes!

@yoruichixx6951

3 жыл бұрын

brutally cunning gobbo says otherwise

@dennoplit3728

3 жыл бұрын

He's gonna get killed-murdered yes-yes

One thing in defence of Tretch - Vanguard deployment for ALL his army is very useful for arty and weapon teams, cause it gives much more options to find a good place for them. For example, there is a map, when you and enemy has a small deployment area at right corners, but there is a big high hill at the left-bottom with one narrow entrance. Putting catapults and weapon teams there allowed me to win a lot of High Elf invasions.

@cole445

3 жыл бұрын

^This - that vanguard has saved me from being stuck in the middle of a forest or at the shit part of a hill a few times.

LotW: saying something quietly in the background Ikit Claw: SCIENCE! SORCERY! DEATH!!!

Snikch running with high elves like "yes-yes, I elf-thing too"

Thank you for throwing in the quick bit at the end about the rankings of the Clan mechanics.

Love watching your videos. Always makes me hyped to go play when I get off work.

His lord comparison videos are always super interesting, glad he made more

Awesome video again! I'd really like an added faction rating as well, if you wanna make that. Because, especially with Skaven, Ikit Claw is especially strong if he has his forbidden workshop etc

Great video, love this series, the only thing worth mentioning and it feels like Legend is aware himself is that it would be great to have faction comparison on top of that. Maybe it is worthwhile to make a bit shorter video for all factions, like Skaven, where the faction bonuses and powers are evaluated, with some points given from starting legendary lord.

Hey Legend just want you to know, these legendary lord power comparisons are the best videos you've done since your Top 5 series. Thanks man.

glad your making this kind of informative content again legend! Try to see how much views your informative video's get, its absolutely your best content! Everyone appreciates a person's opinion who has such a good knowledge of the game and such a passion for it!!

We need more of this! Awesome video!

YES! Im so glad Legend is doing the legendary lord comparisons again

Been waiting for this :)

Thanks legend was really looking forward to this

Thanks for the comparison Legend! Need that dwarf comparison tho 👀

Glad to see the power comparisons back

really well done video legend!!! keep up the awesome content

Onto lizardmen next, love the power comparison videos

Great video man, been waiting for this. Couple of surprises, but it mostly makes sense. Feels like Snikch should get a bit more commanding power for Contract Loopholes, since it saves you more money than Skrolk or Ikit's upkeep reduction traits in the long term. But my army compositions might just be different from yours, so fair enough. Love the videos, man.

been waiting for this for a long while

The good thing about Tretch is that he could be used as a baseline gauge of how to be a good legendary lord.

That was a fun video, thanks for breaking down the information :). Have a nice day.

I was just about to ask for one of these

Awesome comparison vid!

Thank you Legend rn isnt the greatest time but I've been watching all your videos every day and catching some of your steams which a nice break from everything else

I enjoy these power comparison videos, I'd love to see a lizardmen one next bae

I respect your decision to not put clan mechanics in for the lord comparison but you must consider that CA balance's the lords in accordance to the faction mechanic so I'm not surprised that the scaven's got these scores at all, since most of them have there own unique mechanic that is incredibly useful. Great video, love your work and i cant wait for the next.

Finally the most awaited video of the year!!!

I was actually genuinely expecting Skrolk to be no. 1 because he's such a powerful asset even when not playing as Pestilens. Weapons teams armies with a bunch of extra plague priests recruited with full summoning capability right out of the gate? Yes please!

@michael35889

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Skrolk is an extremely powerful LL.

Yaay! More power comparrison videos!

Love those comparisons

13:24 “increases his speed... especially on the big fatso”. Throt would like you to know he’s only big-boned, not fat.

@ggleplussuxx4787

3 жыл бұрын

Somebody should mod in Big Smoke voiceover for Throt the Unclean

@BarnacleBoy42069

3 жыл бұрын

@@ggleplussuxx4787 "I'll have 2 number 9's, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, 2 number 45's and a large soda, yes-yes!"

@ggleplussuxx4787

3 жыл бұрын

@@BarnacleBoy42069 All you had to do was find-follow the damn warpstone-thing, slave!

By far my favorite video series from legend

I really like these videos. I wish you would do the other factions. Empire, Bretonnia, Chaos, Dwarves....etc.

I would really like to see this type of comparison for factions excluding legendary lords.

Tretch can provide a factionwide bonus, but you either have to start as him or acquire him before he gets his Lucky Skullhelm. During the quest for the Skullhelm he gets a choice which applies a trait which provides a factionwide effect. Because the AI doesn't do the quest it doesn't get the trait. They're not very good, but one does give -5% build cost factionwide.

Throt is really good in the areas I care about so I'm excited for the update, what I've pre-purchased.

Finaly a LL power comparison, I love this type of videos.

You did not include the new faction buffs for Tretch and Quiek in the new update, but they probably woundn't change the ranking anyway.

@TheIYFGamingTM

3 жыл бұрын

@Несгибаемый Оджас It was recruitment capacity for Chieftains +2 (new hero type). The special building in the capital should also make them availible from the start, if I remember correctly.

Theses lord comparison videos are great!

I hope we get one of these for Wood Elves as well, they are always my favorite of his videos.

Finally, it was like ages!

I have been waiting for this

I find this list, under your listed criteria, EXTREMELY difficult to disagree with. Well-thought-out, well-researched and well-reasoned.

Hmm, well ill eagerly await Lizardmen and Tomb Kings aswell, still alot of good info here as usual Legend.

LoTW is doing the thing! Love these videos. Wood Elves next since it is topical?

Great Video, I dont know if u read the comments but would be great to add the preferred order of level up( if there is one) and also which agents are more suitable for each lord/faction

just the video i was waiting for!

You should do a video on your favorite doomstacks for every faction, not just the top 5. I want to see what a Skaven doomstack looks like from the cheeselord.

After 1.1k hours of playtime I did my first Skaven campaign ever as Clan Skryre and on legendary difficulty. Never thought I'd say that, but it was super fun as they're a straight up broken race. Lots of utility, always ambushing and super strong units. The fact that you can boost up main cities to level 5 is insane, too. Funny thing was that Rictus defeated the Dark Elves and ruled the north, Mors and Eshin did their thing in the south, while I went up to the north into Reiland so in the end basically the entire map was Skaven.

Can you make videos in this style where you go through a faction and say how best to level up their lords and heroes?

@Zoltri

3 жыл бұрын

If i had to rough outline it. Lightning Strike is the most broken thing in this game, always get it first with the possible exception of ambush armies. (Skaven/Alith anar) Then spell casting/any lord specific traits that look good. Id say these are about the same value. Then red line for any missle buffs, especially Range or ammo buffs Then either finish out the blue line, or invest into yellow if the unit could use it. There's exceptions to this, but generally speaking I think thats a good framework if you're ever unsure where to put points.

the lord comparison we have been waiting for.

Gotta love how craventail is leading from the back

I kinda figured Tretch, especially with tomorrow having all stormvermin give Encourage on Skaven (counterintuitive to his retreating and losing buffs, but still) would put him higher than Queek at least

Hey man, huge respect for your vids and you do know your way around the game. On Tretch you dont mention his cloak all units in a radius power ( he can do that 3 times per battle). Closing the gap with a bulk of your army, plays rigth up his ally of being a deceiving tank unit. But yes he requires micro.

I think you will have taken it into account, but just saying that I think the +2 recruit rank for ALL weapon teams from Ikit is actually pretty strong. Since you will propably recruit them, having them start at a higher rank is always useful.

I think you should include the standard lords available to faction as well in these reviews. It would help put things in perspective.

Im sure you're going to hear this a lot but, I do hope you do more of these.

I love these kinds of videos

Okay im glad you mentioned it at the end of the video cause was gonna say that thanos snap is like so op it would make death master a easy 10 out of 10 but taking the faction out of it I can see completely where your going and agree.

I like these videos. Can you do one on Vampire Counts and make the argument for Ghorst being a Legendary Hero so we can get a new LL :)

Love these legend, thanks

My Tretch campaign was the most fun I’ve ever had in a total war game, somehow he just brings out my inner skaven.