Simon appears intelligent when sat across from Danny Murphy. Borson shows him levels here.

@mymemories925

Ай бұрын

Borson was part of the sportswashing that took place between 2010 and 18 the period where city wasn't that popular abroad and had never been as popular as spurs in 2010 in Britain and still not in 2024? How their commercial revenue rocketed while matchday revenue was half of spurs? They was just becoming relevant in the Premier league again from 2010? By 2018 established and from then on yes they was self sustainable? But to say they they was extremely profitable in that decade is a myth!

@georgeyboy5256

Ай бұрын

​@mymemories925 no he wasn't, he advised the club on the sale of the club when Thaksin Shinawatra bought City in 2008. He hasn't advised the club under the new ownership.

@liamjohnson7887

Ай бұрын

@mymemories925 no he wasn't.

@tobyflagg8058

Ай бұрын

lol

@revoksfn7354

Ай бұрын

Why do you spout a load of nonsense and expect people not to pick holes in your comments ...bit silly ​@@mymemories925

Borson looks like Martin O'Neills little brother

@Rubionion

Ай бұрын

Martin O’Neil X Martin Freeman

@adamoconnor6399

Ай бұрын

BEAN

@Breadbiin

Ай бұрын

Comment of my day 😂😂

@niksinton4400

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@niksinton4400

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂

Give it up Simon. Usually you get away it, but it's clear how clueless you are once up against someone who actually knows what they are talking about.

@waynehardiman5443

Ай бұрын

The guy doesn’t he’s just going blah blah we want a big court to deal with it as it’s the biggest ever his own words so there going to build a new one in Saudi and it’s going to be fair lol

@SUPPS2GO

Ай бұрын

@@waynehardiman5443well it is the biggest ever. Or do you know of other clubs facing 115 charges?

@brianshockledge3241

Ай бұрын

@@waynehardiman5443 Get to the hospital immediately that bang on the head could be serious. Or do you normally talk gobbledegook? Why on earth would they want a hearing where Newcastle`s owners are from.

@ifldiscovery8500

Ай бұрын

​@@SUPPS2GO 115 EPL charges that have no juristriction 😂

@SUPPS2GO

Ай бұрын

@@ifldiscovery8500 I think city are innocent.

Simon has refused to back the courage of his convictions and left himself in an invidious position.

@whoknew2273

Ай бұрын

that too many long words my head hurts

@grahamsullivan5322

Ай бұрын

@@whoknew2273 If you know, you know.

@DrMattiLabbratt

Ай бұрын

What you’ve got here , is a narrative, of an absolute Herbert…isn’t it?, yeesss

@zendon3

Ай бұрын

I think Simon learnt something here, and more importantly, so did we

@Support-your-local-team

Ай бұрын

@@DrMattiLabbratt I've already priced that into my thinking.

Finally someone SHOVED it to Simon the ultimate BS talker ! Well done ✅👍🏽

@John-tz2tx

Ай бұрын

Yahoo

@stanh8071

Ай бұрын

Just look at the amount of business City have done since the Premier League announced the charges a year ago. Surely if the writing was on the wall for City, these companies wouldn’t be touching us with a barge pole knowing we could be playing Altrincham instead of Liverpool? Yet all of the below has been signed and sealed since we were charged. This is a huge indicator that they’ve been given solid assurances, and possibly even been privy to City’s “comprehensive body of evidence” proving we have done nothing wrong, allowing them to confidently partner with us without worrying about the future. A brief summary of our commercial development since being charged… Kellogg’s - Breakfast product supply partner plus multi year stadium commercial advertising deal CP Company - Off field clothing partner Qualtrics - Experience management software partner Rexona (Sure) - Renewed long term sponsorship deal Joie - Academy Stadium naming rights and women’s team sponsorship deal OKX - Additional sleeve sponsorship deal Midea - Renewed long term partnership Nissan - New deal extending partnership to City’s official charity as well as club Inclusion diversity and equality affairs Nexen Tyre - New long term sponsorship renewal ChallengerMode - Official Esports platform partner Asahi Superdry - New deal extending sponsorship to training kits Axi - Renewed global partnership Jio - Official Club Telecoms partner in India Keep spouting 115 at your own risk…

Thanks for coming on my channel too Stefan! Educating the masses as usual. At least those that want to be educated anyway 👍

@77gazw

Ай бұрын

Have subscribed to typical city already an gonna sit down an watch borson on your channel. 👍

@MCFCTheMadHatter

Ай бұрын

It was a very well conducted and informative interview. Very interesting and NOT dry as Stefan thought possible ( he is too humble, in a good way).

@togara1

Ай бұрын

Just watched it earlier, really good watch 👍🏻

@toolarmy46and2

Ай бұрын

Enjoyed your video with Stefan earlier today Jonny. Very informative, and you let the guy speak without interruption and without talking over him too.

@nigelduckworth4419

Ай бұрын

Thanks for this. As a subscriber, I shall now have to catch up.

The more you hear Simon on Talksport the more you realise why it went the way it did for him in football.

@johnchristopher792

Ай бұрын

Totally agree mate . I warmed to him a while ago but now he seems to think he knows everything, and when he’s exposed he just talks over whoever is making him look a twat

@joewhite22

Ай бұрын

@@johnchristopher792 It started off well for him with his full blooded honesty on topics but noticeably other not such great characteristics crept in i.e. the hypocrisy, the arrogance, the bias, the talking over guests, the constant digs at certain people. He often lets ego rule his opinions and it's probably this that led to his footballing downfall.

@TheNorthernGunner

Ай бұрын

How did you come to this conclusion? Don't think SJ has said anything from here

@ticklemetrout9625

Ай бұрын

So the financial crash was Simon’s fault is that what your eluding to ?

@thomaselliott7963

Ай бұрын

​@@joewhite22Yep I fully agree - takes a hostile approach to certain individuals,particularly the likes of Gary Neville, Gary lineker or anyone that has deemed as being left or Centre left. His podcast has bombed in terms of numbers, because once the novelty wears off, you realise he's about as uninformed as most people he slags off, just speaks queens english.

Simon Jordan keeps getting his a$$ handed to him each time. Stefan totally dismantled this fraudulent guy

@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings

Ай бұрын

- LiVARpool caught Hacking - LiVARpool not considered Cheats - City found Not Guilty in Court - City are considered Cheats?🤣

@emmdan91

Ай бұрын

Champions again ole ole 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

@MrAnton1502

Ай бұрын

@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Not very bright are you and, seems you are the antithesis of your user name

@waltclarke2618

Ай бұрын

@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings hacking??? and Liverpool have been cost 12 points this season by VAR. You are clearly deluded so hush please.

@mikedarby3977

Ай бұрын

Crass comment ​@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings

5:10 You know Jordans uncomfortable with his own argument and fears losing when he blinks relentlessly...he met his match here

@togara1

Ай бұрын

Stefan literally just picks holes in everything he says and also clearly has a very good memory in what Jordan has said before. His confidence levels have dropped significantly from his previous chats on the show with Stefan. He knows himself the case has been poorly put together and most likely will get picked apart when it all goes down.

@chrisbal4882

Ай бұрын

nobody believes for one second man city operates by the rules,they have already been caught once.simon was right and big ears is waffling nonsense and trying to stall everything just like man city

The mobile phone salesman was schooled big time

If i don't agree, I'll interrupt or talk over you and not let you answer. Says it all!

Never seen Simon made to look as inept as this.

@mickeyknoxnbk219

Ай бұрын

easy wen hes bullying keown or jim woke, guys a muppet

@Pwnziillaaaa

Ай бұрын

@@mickeyknoxnbk219I agree he’s an absolute turnip.

@oasis4426-cz6wt

Ай бұрын

You mean that Simon is correct.

@TP-pq9xx

Ай бұрын

@@oasis4426-cz6wt No, I mean that he was objectively wrong about the charges pertaining to fair value sponsorships, which there aren't any, and he was also objectively wrong about City denying access to hearings, which was actually the PL's decision. It seems like this whole topic is beyond Simon's capability to discuss so he should just leave it for others who are more equipped.

@slyarsenal

Ай бұрын

Watch Simon Jordan vs Eddie Hearn.

Simon is emotional about city. He doesn’t stick to facts. Which is that clearly the charges are complicated and isn’t at all clear city are guilty. Simon believes city to be guilty because he wants them to be. He embarrassed himself here

@holgz

Ай бұрын

All signs are he’s a United fan… he can’t shut up about them

@OfficialFA

Ай бұрын

Simon & many others, they'll always use the "for the good of football" bs line😂

@GlynnParry-bs6xg

Ай бұрын

Depends what you're talking about. 5 of the charges relate to Uefa, on which city WERE found guilty and overturned at CAS due to time barring. Having been found guilty and let off on a technicality, that's pretty straightforward. 40 charges (and potentially increasing, as this is up to 2018) are of not co operating with the Premier League 's investigation and remit.Again City tried to legally bar the investigation into them (not an outcome, just the whole investigation).So that's pretty strong. The rest will be difficult,as proving City 'knowingly ' cheated the financial restraints of FFP, will probably rely on the 'leaked' evidence from a suspected hack. That legally speaking is 'fruit of the poisoned tree', and undermines everything unless the Premier League has stronger evidence. The funny bit, is that the Premier League have no knowledge of City goings on, because City won't co operate (a charge they deny lol) but a lack of evidence IS proof of not giving up financial records, something which City signed up to do.😅 If you read all that, congratulations you deserve a biscuit! (But not a choccy one😮)

@darshanoswal3352

Ай бұрын

Simon has shown his petty petty character and personality, specifically regarding Man City...he was shown mirror, which he did not enjoy at all...I loved to see him this uncomfortable 😂

@yourboyconnor

Ай бұрын

​@@GlynnParry-bs6xgOverturned by CAS because City weren't guilty. Read the verdict again

Stefan Borson talks complete sense and actually knows what he is talking about based on a career where he has collected knowledge and expertise in a niche field. This clearly frightens Simon.

@tevildo45

Ай бұрын

Simon clearly has an inferiority complex when it comes to people like this

@illyaedwards7188

Ай бұрын

Simon went easy on him

@matthewm3869

Ай бұрын

well Borson also worked for City so I'd be slightly cautious over what he has to say

@environm3ntalist549

Ай бұрын

@@matthewm3869 a long time ago in a very limited capacity for a short time and before the current ownership regime. I haven't heard him say anything that doesn't seem perfectly plausible but yes it is right to be cautious with everything you hear. Inspect it, interrogate it.

@Buu...

Ай бұрын

Agreed, simon like many others are so desperate for city to be guilty that it shocks them to their core when someone like the gentleman in this video shows up. Clearly showing that the whole situation isnt as simple as "cities guilty, im right youre wrong" like simon makes it out to be.

Not many people come on TalkSPORT and get the better of Simon Jordan so bravo Stefan 😂

@TabsT-vy5jy

Ай бұрын

Eddie hearn

Jordan struggling badly here. Falling back on bluff and bluster. He’s a touch out of his depth compared to the other fella who is a genuine expert.

@blacklightning7570

Ай бұрын

If were listening. They both actually made valid points.

@lemonlid

Ай бұрын

You're listening to a different conversation then mate

@scousertommy8220

Ай бұрын

Stefan isn’t in the least bit biased towards City whatsoever, is he?!!!!

@jk_lol

Ай бұрын

​@@scousertommy8220he only appears biased towards the facts tbh

@rayb2542

Ай бұрын

@@scousertommy8220 he is a City fan from way back but has always been brutally honest about these charges…and has upset a lot of City fans especially when the charges were first laid. City’s case is now well into the “discovery phase” now where lawyers are examining evidence from the claimant (PL) and the defendant (City). Strong rumours circulating that the PL case (like UEFA’s at CAS) is very weak - both from City and a number of other clubs including United. The fact that City’s commercial chief (Berrada) has been appointed as their CEO makes it clear that Ratcliffe & Co accept these charges are going nowhere -;they wouldn’t touch him with barge pole if they believed otherwise.

Simon outclassed

Simon hates not being the smartest person in the room

@soundzu8038

Ай бұрын

Even when Stefan isn’t in the room Simon is not the smartest

@cherylparker1448

Ай бұрын

Spouting an endliess stream of word salad does not make him smart.

@kennyp9616

Ай бұрын

Simon is the prime example of a know it all narcissist

@jakeansell5408

Ай бұрын

Simon isn't even that smart. He just uses long words to sound intelligent, let's be honest if he was that smart he wouldn't be bankrupt and almost take palace into administration

@jakeansell5408

Ай бұрын

​@@kennyp9616he's bang on the coke

Simons continual trick of interrupting, to obfuscate rather than letting mr Borson clearly express his understanding of the situation. We have heard Simons ideas many times.

The PL investigated City for 4 years before bringing these charges...FOUR YEARS. Yet Simon expects City to do their part in 4 minutes. The PL brought the most serious charges imaginable and THEY have to prove them. It’s not for City to prove innocence. If the PL have a smoking gun, why did it take them 4 years to bring the charges? If Simon doesn’t like how long it’s taken, his beef should be with the PL not City.

@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings

Ай бұрын

- LiVARpool caught Hacking - LiVARpool not considered Cheats - City found Not Guilty in Court - City considered Cheats?😂

@robertmclellan3658

Ай бұрын

@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings Dont forget Liverpools history of match fixing.

@fady02

Ай бұрын

It took them 4 years because it's not easy to find conclusive evidence. If you're innocent, you should not need as much time to prove innocence as it did for someone to build a whole case with 115 charges. I think the PL needs to be more pragmatic in their approach, limit the number of charges to the most egregious and rock-solid ones so that the process can be expedited, then proceed with the rest once they get their guilty verdict.

@infidelMCR

Ай бұрын

​@fady02 but they won't get their "guilty" verdict so doesn't really matter either way.

@fady02

Ай бұрын

@@infidelMCR Neither of us know, but so far the PL has been getting verdicts in all of the cases put forward. Assuming the contrary as a fact is needless bias lol. If they've got nothing, then again expediting the trial is in the best interest of the sport.

i like Jordan and he normally speaks well but when he riled up and struggling to accept the other persons views he gets very smarmy and petulant. SB on the other hand calm as you like !!! bravo ! The whole worlds watching this case but its not being concluded any time soon.

@whodoyouratemore

Ай бұрын

Yep that's typical behaviour from him when he's not on top of the argument

@liamjohnson7887

Ай бұрын

You mean he speaks well, compared to Martin Keown.

I dont blame City for doing what they done to get where they are. God bless them for making the darling clubs cry and playing super football in the process. Long may it continue.

Simon still uses terms such as "guilty" and "convicted". Those are criminal law terms. This is a civil law matter. At its very worst, City can only be found liable. A civil court cannot find them guilty.

Does Simon Jordan realise that at times you need to keep quiet and LISTEN!

the more i see from simon v steffen ,the more i think simon hasnt got a clue what hes talking about, he comes across as very intelligent v danny and martin, but when hes up against a professional he witters like a fool, im losing all respect for simon, and im starting to think his palace downfall was his ignorance in the financial matters , to put it bluntly he hasn't got a clue about what hes talking about,

"prove by UEFS" ..why is Simon lyjng. Not only did UEFA not prove anythibg they did not eveb contest Man City evidnece. Go and read the CAS case.

@creepingbrain

Ай бұрын

You read it. That City inflated the Etihad and Etisalat sponsorships using money direct from ADUG was not up for debate. But it had been more than 5 years and so CAS determined it was time-barred. Even so, CAS only voted 2-1 to "acquit". One of those 2 was Andrew McDougall QC, who was nominated by City, who worked for White and Case. Guess the names of two of White & Case's clients....you guessed it.... Etihad and Etisalat.

@MrPhantom1961

Ай бұрын

did that have atrocious spelling mistakes in it too!?

and the winner is stefan borson

Peter Moore , saying Liverpool are above board rubbish. Didn’t they hack Man City’s scouting database a few years back .

@philc1773

Ай бұрын

£1m out of court settlement paid.....!

The king in the room is the person who is qualified. If your car breaks down the mechanic in the back seat is king. If you are preparing a dinner party your best mate who is a chef is the king. Bow to someone's superior knowledge or you end up coming on like Jordan does here. Totally outclassed.

Stefan looking like “Do I really have to deal with this bozo today?”

Simon, Neville and Carragher are some of the most clueless people when it comes to these charges but they always seem to be the ones making the most noise 😂

Simon Jordan never recovered from the beating he received from Eddie “the hitman” Hearn x2

Jordan trying to impress as usual when he mentioned he knew that guy they were referring to/who bought the company blah blah blah only for the expert to advise its all in the public domain...😀😀😀..Turtle neck is a fraud and needs to go

Jordan doesn't know his ass from his elbow, also very rude, always speaking over people when they are talking if he doesn't like their response. The courts will decide. This Steffan fella seems to know his stuff.

@phildemetriou440

Ай бұрын

Jordan here, is a classic case of "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit'.

Simon gets his ass handed to him every time he ismt arguing with a footballer who left school at 15

I think at some point in the future Simon is going to be sued for the slander of City as he will lose his sh*t on air once they are found not guilty...... He's so bitter about City you would think a bunch of blues had shot his dog or something 😂😂😂😂

@lsd358

Ай бұрын

Not guilty, you actually believe you won't be found guilty for any ? You are living in a dream world

if Mr Borson had said anything that might have hinted at Man City being guilty of anything, Simon would not have interrupted him at all. But as he spoke of the need for due process, Simon didn't like that and so repeatedly tried to talk over him. Simon's take on the whole thing . . .Damn due process, this is taking too long to label Man City guilty . Guilty I tell you!!! Guilty, guilty, guilty!!

Is there ever a day Simon doesnt think about Man City? Obsessed !

@holgz

Ай бұрын

He’s a United fan

@malibongwematewu4007

Ай бұрын

@@holgz I am in South Africa, I was wondering why this guy hate City so much

@denporterhdproductions8310

Ай бұрын

Man City living in his head! 😢

@CarloTurner-vl7rl

Ай бұрын

@@holgzwhy are you getting involved ? You’d think that you’d back him after what happened to your Club over just ONE point .

How about letting the experts actually have a chance to talk? You let them on for 10 min and 8 min of it is jordan trying to convince everybody that only his views are right? So sick of this, this is exactly why i dont listen to talksport anymore or watch your content. I did today because i find stefan to be a really interesting guest, but you never actually let him talk

Chuckle brother SJ schooled on this one, whilst JW looks on like a spectator at a tennis game,👀😄😄🙄

Jordan looks like he passed a particularly noxious fart

Simon can't hack it . Not looking so smart today😂

Simon tries so hard but gets schooled by this guy every-time.

Amazing how many legal experts are on here declaring the case to be too complicated.😒

The more this goes on, the more emotional Simon gets, and then all facts of the matter escape him. Its becoming increasingly clear that he too, like many of us, lacks the understanding of the Man city v PL case.

Stefan eats Simon’s lunch every time he comes on the show, and long may it continue. Someone needs to put Simon in his place.

@rob8493

Ай бұрын

Simon was not put in his place at all. Stefan looked stupid. These are allegations that have been investigated and they have been charged to court. There will be evidence to suggest that there is a likelihood of a prosecution when it gets to court otherwise they wouldn’t have been charged. I completely agree with what Simon is saying and letting it drag on is not acceptable for the integrity of the sport. Who can multiple top lawyers representing city not get there case together in 12- 24months is a joke.

@brianshockledge3241

Ай бұрын

@@rob8493 You`ve got it the wrong way round it`s the premier league which have dug themselves so deep they are looking for a way out.

@Veyron1967

Ай бұрын

@@brianshockledge3241Well that’s because it’s expensive to keep fighting counter-cases and obfuscation, and the PL can’t drill their legal fees straight out of the ground like certain others parties. 115Charge FC are a disgrace.

@rob8493

Ай бұрын

@@brianshockledge3241I don’t believe for one minute that all those charges would have been made and authorised by a professional body without a realistic chance of a prosecution in court. There must be evidence to suggest foul play or the case would have been dismissed. That’s my opinion and the timings are a joke and the court system should not allow it.

@brianshockledge3241

Ай бұрын

@@rob8493 These charges are basically 5 financial over multiple seasons 30+ are for non cooperation and the rest are made up waffle like the grass being too long. The hub of the matter are financial the first being "secret" payments being paid to the then manager Mancini. FFP came in in 2011 while Mancini signed his contract in 2009 when clubs could spend what they wanted which means it couldn`t possibly have been done to circumnavigate ffp. In any case the amount was a piffling £3.5m hardly an amount to make City able to dominate in the future which is what this is all about. The inflated sponserships have also been proved to be wishful thinking only. These charges are sinking faster than the titanic and will probably end up with the non cooperation go to.

They say little knowledge is dangerous.....Simon Jordan has demonstrated he has little knowledge about anything 😂😂

Stefan is the expert here and not Simon. Now you see Simon in his truest form and why he was inept and failed owner. Well articulated by Stefan and simply put. MCFC OK

@DoyleArmstrong41

Ай бұрын

How is Stefan an expert when he is not part of the citeh set up , he's basically a lifelong citeh fan who used to be a citeh employee who says he thinks citeh are innocent 🤔 😂😂😂

Simon doesn´t like being put in his place by someone that actually knows what they are talking about...

Jordan not coming over as quite as clever as he thinks here.

Mr Jordan clearly out of his depth, easy to how he failed miserably at Crystal Palace.

Stefan Borson spitting pure facts whilst Simon squirms in his chair, fantastic!

If the premier leagues credibility and reputation is damaged as a result of the duration of the man city case due in large to breadth and scope of the charges, then so be it. You can’t rush the process because of optics, that should’ve been an initial consideration before accusing city of that many breaches, now that it is in the hands of an independent committee it is in the hands of neither the PL or City to expedite the process to appease growing frustration.

I can see Simon kicking off to the powers that be at Talksport if they keep letting this guy on to embarrass him and deflate his ego

Simon should do his homework before stefan joins the show

I'm no city fan, I'm Liverpool, but one thing strikes me re city and the 115 charges is this; they have owners with endless amounts of cash. Why would they have irregular acts re sponsorship etc when the owners have the financial clout to draw upon legitimate sponsors, sign any player they want within the realms of financial fair play and invest their own money into the building of the club. It makes no sense as to why irregularities would be at play???? I don't think City will face any fine, any points deductions or relegation. They'll be cleared.

@johnmccadden9963

Ай бұрын

City are a tiny club who nobody was ever going to sponsor with serious amounts of cash. The owners had to basically use their own companies to sponsor their own club and build it up into a slightly less tiny club. Now they win things so can legitimately get sponsors, but still don't make enough on merchandise and probably never will. Perhaps the owners could buy all the replica shirts? They will always be tiny because they are city.

@thebobman69

Ай бұрын

Because those irregularities allow them to sign Kdb, Diaz, etc? I'm not sure what you don't get?

@jamescain707

Ай бұрын

​@@johnmccadden9963course they were. I could get nike to sponser them for 100m if im giving nike 200m. I dont have to do it directly and sponser city if i have money. In fact i could go through 100 middle men.

@user-pf2rx3mj4e

Ай бұрын

I think you will find Liverpool were a small club wallowing in the 2nd for years until Littlewods gave then vast amounts of money to buy players who normally would be !st div players and not bottom of second div.players

@nigelduckworth4419

Ай бұрын

@@johnmccadden9963 I think you are talking about Wycombe Wanderers. City have spent almost 100 years in the top division of English football, won FA Cups and been the old first division champions

Jordan thinks hes a legal expert that guy knocked strips of him always trying to talk over him but he wasn't having it.

Jesus Simon - can you shut up and let the guy talk

Simon getting called out on facts! Simon not a fan of due process. Just wants the witch hunt

Simon gets too emotional when talking about Manchester City and FFP so much he makes loads of rubbish claims. He just got corrected that it wasn’t City that refused press access at a hearing but he wants to wish that away. My stand is simple, if City hasn’t been nailed for so long, maybe this is just some baseless witch-hunting by the Premier League

@michellemaggs75

Ай бұрын

Simon despises city because the owners are from the middle east. His prejudice is not hidden. He is very jealous and emotional hence almost crying at the end after his humiliation.

There are levels sadly simon is conference level compared to premier league borson😅

never saw Jordan get nailed like that

Simon doesn't like having a guest more knowledgable than him.

I keep saying this but the premier league are the authors of their own misfortune in terms of the amount of time that the City case is taking to come to a hearing. Any half decent prosecutor, and I was one, knows full well that if you have a very large number of allegations, the best of those must be picked out and only those proceeded upon. These are called specimen charges. If that is not done, the you have a case which is out of control in that the preparation time can take years, the witnesses will have forgotten what they had to say, and the jury/tribunal will have so many facts and figures to absorb that it is beyond their capacity. This is why Stefan is right.

@robertmclellan3658

Ай бұрын

Well said.

@axels9179

Ай бұрын

You seem to think the 115 charges are each unique, that's wrong. There are basically 4-5 chargers that are multipled over the period EPL have investigate the club (2009 to 2018) and multipled again by being a breach of both EPL and UEFA laws, then you have about 30 charges based on City failure to cooperate with the investigation in the period (2019-2023). The problem is that the case was made public with all it's many charges without EPL seemingly having done any actual work in the 4 years it took them "investigating". No new evidence have been made public (most are still based on the UEFA-case that UEFA lost against City), and as a fact we know they have not been in contact with the key people named in the case, like Mancini. This case shows the ineptitude of EPL. The case should never have been brought forward without new solid evidence, but was likely just rushed just as a sign of strenght in the face of a possible new independent regulator which may take their power away. It seems silly writing the case was rushed after 4 years investigation, but looking at the case and the facts we know, it just can't be explained in other words. You can't expect to present serious criminal chargers (these aren't just about breaking football rules, these are criminal chargers as cooking the books, tax evasion, collusion etc) and then not having done any serious leg work in gathering evidence and taking statements of the involved parties.

@nigelduckworth4419

Ай бұрын

@@axels9179 Some good points. I think there are 5 major groups which will focus the mind of the tribunal. However, it's still true that accounts and evidence will have to be looked at and countered for each and every one of the allegations if the PL still decide to contest them all. City can't allow any to slip through the net. I agree entirely about the PL ineptitude. The Regulator is now on us in short order and so let's hope that they decide to take over. I have no hope that the PL tribunal will be impartial whatever they say.

Lets just agree simon is not as brilliant as he think he is and Stefan knows more about running a club than a failed owner like simon.

Simon getting rinsed 😂😂😂

‘He’s one of my best friends’ is the pettiest comeback I’ve ever heard

@MrB831

Ай бұрын

pettiest*

@Emperor-Inker

Ай бұрын

Simons arguments wouldn't stand strong in a court of law. 😂

@grahamgibbins8071

Ай бұрын

​@@MrB831 prettiest sounds much better (funnier)

@matty2470

Ай бұрын

The "it's all public information" retort was brutal

Simon like fish out of water 😂

It would be better if Jordan shut his gob whilst other people are speaking to let people actually speak. City will be cleared as done nothing wrong. Unlike Jim’s beloved Rangers who went into liquidation

Goodness SJ is embarrassing himself

Simon thinks he is so clever then an actual clever person comes along and hands him his ass

Simon got owned, that does not happen often!

"No rush in my mind" funny guy

He's done you there Simon 😂

Please can you replace Simple Simon with AI? 😂😂😂

All this proves is that Jordan is a complete tool

The biggest issue is a club having the audacity to join the top table.

@andychatt23

Ай бұрын

The biggest issue is people are expected to believe they have gone from the Dog and Duck to a turnover bigger than Real Madrid Barcelona etc in less than a decade without any skullduggery.

@MyShowbizName

Ай бұрын

@@andychatt23 As a fan of a non legacy club. I find it hard to care. I feel like you have to 'cheat' the current rules to get up to the level of the top clubs, after that, it becomes a lot simpler to run it sustainably. The rules are there to maintain the status quo and it seems like the turnover rules coming in will just firmly set a clubs level in stone. If I thought FFP was anything to do with giving a **** about clubs and their future, I might have a different opinion.

First time Jordan being taken to cleaners

@soundzu8038

Ай бұрын

Not the first time. The last time was when Stefan was on the show as well😂

@sratus

Ай бұрын

@@soundzu8038 And every time Eddie Hearn is on

Jims not got a clue whats going on😂😂😂

Sad bitter little man Jordan. If he is so good why is he on talk sport and not running the champions of the world????

Simon just hates Citi .

bro he schooled Simon

Apparently hacking another clubs computer system is adhering to the rules is it.

@86Brasco

Ай бұрын

Were talking much bigger things here...

@james_44

Ай бұрын

What a bizarre argument. If somebody is filming their neighbour and they see them kill their wife, should the evidence be ignored due to how it was obtained? City are as guilty as guilty can be, and this prat gets wielded out every time to defend his murderous overlords.

@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings

Ай бұрын

- LiVARpool caught Hacking - LiVARpool not deemed Cheats - City found Not Guilty in Court - City are deemed Cheats?🤣

@86Brasco

Ай бұрын

@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings your lack of understanding is staggering. Hope you are OK.

@robertmclellan3658

Ай бұрын

@@james_44 Dont talk utter nonsense.

Stefan nails Jordan again.

Talk over the guest, when the guest pushes back. 🤔

Simon needs to let real experts speak instead of constantly. Cutting in to give his opinion. He thinks he’s the expert in everything. He was telling the most successful boxing promoter in history. That he was wrong 😂

Simon did not make one single fact based rational arguement in the debate. He was corrected at every juncture by someone who obviously knows this area of law. For Simon and Jim to somehow blame Mcfc for the length of a process that has been forced upon them is outlandish.

This just highlights that a wide vocabulary, is often misconstrued for intelligience within a subject....

Simon doesn't allow anyone to speak if they are disagreeing with him. Let him speak

Simon Jordan SCHOOLED by Stefan Borson Over Man City's FFP CHARGES 🔥🍿

Simon is very emotional and isnt thinking clearly. He nearly burst into tears at the end. He couldnt bully here so got upset.

If the PL hadn't brought these alleged allegations this show would be about 20 minutes long. White and Jordan desperately want City to be found guilty otherwise their content will go down to nothing.

Jordan looks like a cut-price Eddie the eagle, and his arguments fly just as far.

Simon hates it when he isn't the smartest man in the room

Class listening this afternoon from Jorden and Borson dealing with deluded football fans, facts always trumps fiction

Stephan just wiped the floor with Jordan who clearly has no clue what he is talking about.

And Simon comes on here regularly and wonders why City fans can’t stand what comes out his mouth…… Shown up for his lack of knowledge and his bitter strange agenda.

😂😅😂😅 living rent free in all the fans heads , city will not be stopped

Man Utd 1 billion in debt 🤔🤷

@adammohamed..

Ай бұрын

Leverage buyout pre dates the rules , and those buyouts are now banned.

How does Jordan have a job?