Thank you for these condensed lens comparisons! They're a delight

Excellent review. You have a knack for cramming a lot of good information in a short time, thank you. Never had the urge to click away.

Would like to know how the Sigma would perfom at F1.8 when you do Astro-pics.

I like the Sony sharpness better here but makes me wonder. Should I get the 20mm G and use clear image zoom when I need a 28mm shot? Or should I just get the Sigma 16-28? Most of my shots are up close and I won’t ever be needing wider than 20mm

Great Job one question I am shooting on a Canon 90D and looking for a 20mm or close to take 1.4 or 1.8 I do have a 24mm 2.8 do you know what lens that would be as good or better then these 2 lens please? keep up the good work.

Astrophotography result can be explained by anchoring effectiveness (or lack thereof) and ISO selection (was base ISO used?).

I bought the Sony back in June and didn't even look at the Sigma. However, back then the Sony was on sale ($100 off) and thanks to a few dealer reward points, I paid $788 (plus tax) for a new one. I don't know what price they command used or how readily available used ones are.

Can you do an a7r IV long term review? Could be helpful for me.

I have a total unrelated question for you, but I wanted your opinion on Sony Cameras. I am thinking of switching from Canon to Sony - specifically the Sony A 7 III or A7 IV. However, I am hesitating, because I read a lot about problems with the shutters with these cameras. Have you run into that? Is this a problem with other mirrorless cameras as well? I am shooting with Canon right now - the Canon 5d IV. I am primarily doing bird photography and if I look at Canons mirrorless Camera line up, the only camera that appeals to me is the R5, which is outside of my budget. The Sony 7 a iii or iv together with the 200-600mm lens seem to be a good combo. Please, let me know your thoughts on this or refer me to a video you did (I think I watched them all). Thank you.

Thanks Tony. I was wondering if I should dump my Sony 20mm for the Sigma 20mm but I like the Sony's weight plus it can do focus breathing compensation. The f1.8 is fine for me.

I've gotten a lot of fun shots with the Sony 20 1.8 with its close focusing distance. It really is a great lens and I don't use it nearly enough.

@RedArgyleDesign

5 ай бұрын

Interested in selling it? :D

if your using the sigma to shoot what camera was the episode shot on?

The 20mm 1.8 Sony ruined me for heavy lenses and altered my purchasing choices of new lenses. I ended up with the 55mm 1.8 and the 85mm 1.8 as well and couldn't be happier for what I do.

@janeeightfive7331

28 күн бұрын

For me it was the Sony 16-35 mm f4 G PZ. I also have the Sigma 24-70 mm f2.8 and it's so freaking heavy that I have to guess twice whether I really need it and take it with me. Currently I'm looking at the 14mm lenses from Sony and Sigma and although the Sigma is f1.4 I'd rather take the Sony with f1.8 (for Astro photography) because of it's weight and lightly cheaper price.

Absolutely great comparison video!

QUESTION: Is there any danger to your sensor while doing the starburst test?

@arvidjohansson3120

Жыл бұрын

Life is dangerous, but exposing silicone to light is not a danger.

Love these lens comparisons videos! The Sony 20mm and 24mm lenses are still awesome and keep up with new releases.

@cameraprepper7938

Жыл бұрын

And ahead of...

Hi, would you like to test our full-frame cine lenses?

As with so many things it's not always about the maximum amount of information you take in but rather how well you use that information.

What about focus sound/noise?

How does coma compare for night photos?

As someone who vlogs a lot, the weight of the lens is just as important because I don’t want my arms to fall off 😅. I also don’t typically vlog at f1.4 or 1.8 as I want a bit more of my background to be in focus when I am out and about.

I don't mean to be nit-picky but isn't the difference more like a third stop between the lenses?

af test ? linear motors vs stm ?

(Very) experienced astrophotogapher here. The Sigma 20mm DG DN is exceptional for astro. Your astro test here looks like it's either misfocused or a bad copy unfortunately. Less astigmatism than the Sony 20mm and 24mm GM. Significantly less CA than the 24 GM, and significantly flatter field. The size is a slight drawback but it's still not bad. I'm selling my 24 GM and making the Sigma my new partner to the 14mm GM - sublime astro combo 😍

@pavelxbushmakin7252

Жыл бұрын

What about Sigma 14mm f1.8

@timwhite1111

Жыл бұрын

@@pavelxbushmakin7252 very good lens, but significant aberrations in corners wide open at f1.8. I used to stop my Sigma 14mm down to f2.5-2.8 for astro. Not a bad option for Canon/Nikon as there's no real alternative, but for Sony users the 14mm GM is a very easy choice.

@middot2513

10 ай бұрын

Hi man. would love to get more lenses recomendations between sigma and sony or even other brands

Thanks for the video Tony ⭐️😍

Always difficult to choose between a Sony and Sigma lens. Thank you for the comparison and well explained the pros and cons

sony being lighter is a big deal for me. plus it's still hella sharp and well corrected in the corners. amazing lens

@Mr09260

Жыл бұрын

Yes but 2nd to the Nikon S 20mm F1.8 .. made so mainly due to the Superior Z Lens Mount

@agungadhianto4472

Жыл бұрын

@@Mr09260 not really, just go to jim kasson blog, sony sharper in the centre and on par on corner, while being smaller, lighter and cheaper

The much smaller filter size of the Sony will help make up that price difference really quickly.

@bradl2636

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely yes. Almost immediately in fact.

Thanks T&C. Based on this, I think I’ll keep the Sony 1.8.

Like new Sony 20mm 1.8 is currently (Aug 23) $654 on KEH.

Really great video!

I got the sony 20mm 1.8 used for $450 and its incredible I used it with both full frame and zv e 10 and it looks like it belong on smaller cameras too. I love it

@jakirnaiem

Жыл бұрын

That's the comment I needed to get this for my Zv e10...and I can use this when I switch to full frame.

Great Video on 2 great Astro Lenses but also rans when compared to the CHAMP >> Z Nikon 20mm F1.8 S Lens mounted on a Nikon Z Mount Mirrorless Full Frame camera

About price, I bought the sony lens at RM3,333 ($746) cheaper than this sigma lens ($800). Even sigma have advantage with f1.4, it doesn't make sense to me to change to sigma after I bought sony.

Excellent review. Very detailed, but concise. All the haters I see on SonyAlpharumors are losers. Keep on plugging away, Tony. You rock!!!

I loved the image quality of the Sigma 35mm 1.4. But returned it for the Sony 35mm 1.8. The sigma's focus motors were crunchy sounding. The Sony's are whisper silent.

@TonyAndChelsea

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the previous generation of Sigma lens had noisy AF but the latest generation is silent.

@Super01041994

Жыл бұрын

Was it the old Sigma hsm? I owned the Sony 35 1.8 and didn't like it's chromatic aberration, not that sharp and was really craving for a 1.4 so I decided to swap it for the new sigma 35 DN which although is a bit bigger and heavier it's image quality is almost impeccable at 1.4

The strobing pattern in 5:00 tho... Doesn't look like AF artifacts, but rather the result of LED strobing.

@c.f.384

Жыл бұрын

Tony could prove or disprove it by showing a closeup of the slightly shadowed portions of his sun flare shots.

Great review

"Photography education will do more for your photography than buying new gear." Thank you for all you do to educate. You and Chelsea both!

Sony is way better for someone who doesn't need the 1.4 apperture. It is my only lens, until now, and it blows my mind everytime I use it. Very rarely used at 1.8, preferably used at 2.8 where it becomes almost flawless.

@switchunboxing

Жыл бұрын

What’s wrong with the 1.8

@AndreMonz

Жыл бұрын

@@switchunboxing slightly soft corners.

@switchunboxing

Жыл бұрын

@@AndreMonz Ok thank you! Wouldn’t be a problem for my content where the subject is in the center. Question. I’m thinking of getting the Sony 20mm and using clear image zoom to get it to 24-28mm. I’m not sure if you’ve used CIZ much? I know it introduces some blur and noise but it’s still Sony glass! My other option is getting the Sigma 16-28 and dialing in to a 24-28mm organically. But the lens isn’t quite as sharp as Sony. But that seems to be the right way to do it. Am I a madman if I get the Sony just to look it on a clear image zoom permanently lol?

Get the Sony 20mm 1.8 G or the Voigtländer Nokton 21mm 1.4 which have better optical image quality performance. For me a 20mm are not the best focal length, I have a 20mm Lens that I haven´t used the last two years, before that I only used 20mm about five times in a year, my wide angle Lenses that I use now are Sony 14mm 1.8 GM, Sony 24mm 1.4 GM and Voigtländer APO-Lanthar 35mm 2.0 Aspherical. The Sigma 20mm 1.4 are too BIG and HEAVY !

I generally only use L-series lenses, but this 20mm fits an interesting niche that Canon won’t ever do. I hope Sigma starts making RF mount lenses soon.

@Thai.H

Жыл бұрын

Same

@Knowbody42

Жыл бұрын

I'd like to see Tamron make lenses like the 35-150 f/2-2.8 on RF mount

@Mr09260

Жыл бұрын

Just go Nikon and you wont have your Canon Problem.. A true Blue Copier Compny

@Thai.H

Жыл бұрын

@@Mr09260 Nikon doesn't make good mirrieless cameras other then the z9

@EuropaChronicles

Жыл бұрын

@@Mr09260 No thanks. I think changing platforms every couple of years to chase the latest and greatest new thing is a really good way of never becoming 100% instinctive with your gear.

My man! Gotta give you some tips on astrophotography comparisons. No shade, but that quick side by side from your backyard showed essentially nothing that would help an astrophotographer make an informed decision.

ur so quick at the begining telling and be in point fast ,,,great

You didn't consider the savings that the Sigma gives you by not having to go to the gym. I love Sigma lenses, but they are very heavy compared to the "nearly" equivalent native lenses.

I don't understand whete this lens sits tbh. It is not enough wide for astro and too heavy for vloging. If it were 16 1. 4 that is another talk

I returned the Sony because of it's massive focus breathing - how's the Sigma and why do so few reviewers address this?

The Astro test looks like both lenses are suffering from star trailing. I’m not sure how much that tells us about the lenses performance.

Sony seems to be the better choice BUT for me is the most important question:" Does the Sigma has a better low light performance because of the 1.4?" I need a lense for stage photographie in mostly dark clubs/night time events.

@HHHSykes

Жыл бұрын

Yes, f1.4 is more light per square cm on your sensor than f1.8. About 1.66x more light. So although 1.8 to 1.4 it doesn't sound like much, that's actually quite a big difference. You could effectively increase your shutter speed from 1/60 to 1/100 and still get the same exposure. I hesitated a lot with these two also, and ultimately, low light for me was important, so I went with the Sigma. I think the Sony is a great choice if weight is a concern.

@Detest83

Жыл бұрын

@@HHHSykes THX for the answer m8. Gonna buy the Sigma too. :)

In the bloom test I much prefer the Sony. The rendering of the image is so much better imo.

The 1.4 Sigma acts more like the 1.8 Sony. In that sense, you’re not getting a better deal with the Sigma.

I prefer the Sony. Thank you for the comparison.

You might wanna clean the glass on both lenses.

Great, will share ;)

You seem to have a tad softer copy of the sigma than other reviewers.

Sigma's new feature is useful if you shoot lots of astrophotography. i will still choose the Sigma even the sony is better in optic.

@timwhite1111

Жыл бұрын

Not a good test/result here, the Sigma is better optically for astro.

Thanks for this. I am glad to see my Sony is not made obsolete by the Sigma release. I was afraid Sigma is gonna be a better lens in every category (except size/weight) and I was gonna be tempted to switch. But I’m glad I don’t have to 😬

@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST

Жыл бұрын

Wow, you live life like that? 😬

Cheers much Sigma wins for better background blur for me

if sigma released smaller versions of their 28 and 40 I would switch to sony tomorrow

Yea Sony wins, and a lens is forever so that $100 is made less the longer you use. Also the wider f/ requires a faster shutter speed so no more light, just use the narrower f/ to get more light with a longer SS and less coma yes a higher ISO but today with great software a +++ and yes less noise with newer cameras. But PLEASE use camera NR to help seconds out in the field vs hours in post think about it, what is the hurry anyway!!! I do night astro panos and move to next spot while in NR I can do a 200 deg pano in a minute and a half (single level). As far as using no NR what about hot/dead pixels, talk about post work!!! You get what you pay for in off brand.

I wish 3rd parties can make z mount lenses like this 😢

Finally someone who understands that wide aperture wide angle lenses aren't only for landscapes and astrophotography - but for vlogging as well!

@cameraprepper7938

Жыл бұрын

I have seen plenty of reviewers that mention Lenses like this for vlogging !

@Neopulse00

Жыл бұрын

I'd add streaming too 😏

@Mr09260

Жыл бұрын

@@cameraprepper7938 Me too

Sony ftw: lighter, smaller, shaper, native, big plus for me is focus breathing compensation

There is a winner: Sony for sure. You won't need 1.4 in 99.9% of cases. But Sigma is more extensive and heavier.

Steadyshot performance is substantially degraded on non Sony lenses, this makes Sony the best choice for me unfortunately.

Better keep my Sony 20 1.8 for my astro then . 🤣

While the Sigma looks cool, the whole reason to go with Sony is size and weight.

1.4 and 1.8 won't be the same. I would have liked to see a 1.8 v 1.8 comparison. Thanks for your work

I paid 650 for my Sony 20mm brand new so I wouldn’t have even saved to get the sigma

@ishrarhussain3442

Жыл бұрын

Awesome. Where did you get the deal?

somebody give Tony a F 0 lens dammit!

The Sony: For those who care most about practicality. The Sigma: For those who care most about just getting their back blown out.

@Justinliu00

Жыл бұрын

Pause

Sony is MUCH BETTER ;)

sigma weight 950 gram. too heavy for me.

Surprise! Tony chose the Sony over the Sigma even based on negligible differences. These types of reviews are becoming more and more predictable.

Definitely Sony 20mm! I never liked images that come out of Sigma and Tamron lenses. Everything in the image is rendered flat, there's no depth or dimension to anything. Sigma and Tamron make some really sharp lenses at fast apertures but that's about as far as the quality of their lenses goes... I'd rather use a manual focus, f22, Voigtlander, Schneider Kreuznach, Hasselblad, Leica or Zeiss lens, than an f1.2 Sigma or Tamron lens. (Same thing applies to Samyang, Laowa and all the other similar 3rd party lenses.) You can always fix any CA, distortion or add sharpness in Lightroom or Photoshop but you can't change how a lens renders depth in post... That's why I will never do my fashion and beauty work with a Sigma or similar lens.

1:29 Would you "vlog" with a 630g Sigma lens + a 900g Zhiyun gimbal + 700g SONY? All this cost 3740$ just for that bit of bokeh... Who the hell does this? Do the math dude. Not every scrub can afford to burn cash for his boring ass life.A GO PRO does the job 100% better and way cheaper. Heck...even a Olympus EM1 Mark3 + Leica 9mm 1.7 trashes this setup if you are obsessed with bokeh.😆