For those of you asking about the diff between my P226s: One of them is a stamped steel W. German model from 1988, giving it a rare "JJ" date code. My first/middle initials are JJ so I had to have it. Moreover, many German manufacturers skip "J" in date coding and go from I to K. For example, you will not find an H&K with a "J" in the date code. A lot of people swear up and down that the stamped models are superior but I just see them as requiring more maintenance as the breech face insert requires maintenance. The other is an uncommon U-serial (German origin, as opposed to the UU-prefix, which was associated with US manufacture) 226R (railed model) with a stainless/Nitron milled slide and factory night sights. I say less common because by the time the 226R came about, 226 manufacturing was almost all handled in the US. I'm not implying that the German models are superior to the US models, only that I held on to this one because of its rarity. I still shoot the piss out of both of them.

@tfbtv

3 жыл бұрын

stop drinking dad

@brandonjohnson2493

3 жыл бұрын

Where can I find all the government documents that you use for your research? Thank you in advance!

@tfbtv

3 жыл бұрын

I use Google Scholar

@brandonjohnson2493

3 жыл бұрын

@@tfbtv thank you, and Thank you to you and everyone involved in these videos. You all provide great content!

@jamescampbell4334

3 жыл бұрын

Worth noting. HK uses "J" date codes for magazines.

Since I added Resident Evil grips to my Beretta, I've seen a massive increase in lethality

@musicman2093

3 жыл бұрын

Resident Evil is absolutely responsible for my fondness for Beretta. Haha

@williamflowers9435

3 жыл бұрын

I’m sure if (god forbid) you gotta use it for self defense, those grips will add a massive increase to your sentence too. I’m sure some douchbag prosecutor will have a field day.(Hopefully you live in a free state🤞) That said, I’ve been meaning to do the same😬

@TexasLawbringer77

3 жыл бұрын

@@musicman2093 Same. Got a set of cocobolo STARS grips for mine.

@TexasLawbringer77

3 жыл бұрын

@@cjykqn Might garner some sympathy from the jury if you mention you’re a Raccoon City survivor!

@rybaneightsix5085

3 жыл бұрын

Samurai Edge. Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.

When I was a gun dealer after a while I got so many Law Enforcement Officers come in with malfunctioning Beretta 92’s when they were qualifying I didn’t even have to test them before I repaired them. I brought the gun in the range, applied a little oil to the bone dry handgun and fired it without a hiccup. They performed like a sewing machine. The cops always said the same thing. What did you do to it to fix it so fast? My response. I oiled it. Lol. If you could see the dumbfounded look on their face. Lol.

@jonasjung256

2 жыл бұрын

They do like to run not dry. Pretty amazing what simply maintaining a well built weapon will do for its reliability. 🤣

@CannaCJ

2 жыл бұрын

Makes you question wether they should be carrying that handgun at all! Give ‘em a clapped out old 1911 with waxed rails if they can’t or won’t do basic maintenance. Like, they’re trusting their lives to those handguns and if they aren’t in proper working order that is a safety concern. Surely they were trained to keep their sidearm in a functioning state.

@sambethune

2 жыл бұрын

Hell, they don’t even need that much lube to work well. A light spray of Break Free and my M9 would run all day without any problems!

@jamessteers

2 жыл бұрын

I used to take my gun apart before every shift to make sure it was ready to go. I didn't clean it and oil it each time but just a quick break down and put back together.. Function check and on the road I went

@Largecanyondog

2 жыл бұрын

Not surprising. Police actually scare me with their lack of firearms knowledge and proficiency.

The design of the 92 is iconic. Italian masterpiece. Both fantastic pistols (like you mentioned). Thanks for the great review.

What a great comparison of two classic pistols!! Thank you for putting this together. One of the best firearm based pieces of content I've watched in a long, long time!

Riggs shot a smiley face with his Beretta in Lethal Weapon so by all tests of accuracy, Beretta wins.

@lynch6642

3 жыл бұрын

I ricocheted 1

@tfbtv

3 жыл бұрын

checkmate, Sig

@dongblak7048

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but that group size, doe.

@raylandraybels9462

3 жыл бұрын

Jet Li>92fs>p226

@LuckyDogGaming

3 ай бұрын

@@raylandraybels9462I get this reference…

That split second where Sauron looks deep into your soul tho

@VosperCDN

3 жыл бұрын

Subtle, had to go back after reading your comment to freezeframe and see it - just caught the flicker on first view.

@jeebus2121

3 жыл бұрын

A timestamp would be nice.

@VosperCDN

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeebus2121 go to 2:39 and set your playback speed to 0.25 ... and enjoy.

@chrisspencer6502

3 жыл бұрын

@@VosperCDN you can see it at normal speed.

@ImYourIchigo

3 жыл бұрын

@@chrisspencer6502 Yep, indeed. Saw it on first watch hahaha

I’ve owned my 92F for almost 30 years and I love it. Recently, while qualifying for my armed security guard license, I was required (by my employer, that is what they issue) to use a 226. While I shot well enough to qualify in my first round, I found that it didn’t feel quite as good in my hand as my 92f. So I agree 100% with what James said, it’s all gonna come down to which one you prefer. Thanks for the great video and keep up the good work.

@Knyfefyte

2 жыл бұрын

Those 92’s are so accurate. If the grip were a 1/4in longer it would be my everyday carry gun. That short grip always aggravated me. But I still love the 92, even with it’s shortcomings

As a Glock hater, l thank the Lord every day for not speaking to Gaston until after the xm9 trials.

CZ75 *heavy breathing behind James' back* :D :D

@vladmordekeiser1054

3 жыл бұрын

^this

@keithv3767

3 жыл бұрын

Back then the cz was an evil eastern block gun.

@factsoftheconfederacy7151

3 жыл бұрын

I bet the CZ-75 could beat both guns

@wastool

3 жыл бұрын

CZ75 over either the Berreta or the Sig.

@CzechoslovakGunStories

3 жыл бұрын

@@wastool same here, although in my opinion, it is better to have all of them... you know... diversity and all... :D

M9 or SIG 226 James: Yes

Great video. The first semi-auto pistol I ever fired was at boot camp. It was the 1911 and it only had about five years left in service. Up until then, a 38 revolver was the only centerfire handgun I had fired. Then a few years later, the Beretta came on the scene and I carried that for the military for the next 24 years or so. I was also on the tactical team for a prison for just over a decade and we had the Sig. The "feel" of the Sig was always better in my hands. The M9 felt like it was light in the front when I held it; "unbalanced" feeling(?). But when it came to qualifications, I scored about equal with them and I really have no complaints about either one. Since retiring, I have the 1911 and the M9 (Operation Enduring Freedom Army Commemorative) for military nostalgia; but I never did buy a Sig for tactical nostalgia. Maybe some day I will. My final thought is that I feel equally confident with both of them.

I absolutely love my P226 Mk25. I have a couple of 21 round mags that work flawlessly. I also added lower pound springs to make my trigger pull 2.5lbs in single action mode. But I do agree that the Beretta 92 is also a fine weapon. In my humble opinion you can't go wrong with either of these side arms. I guess I'm just used to the controls on the sig as I own several. Also as a side note, the sig 2022 is an amazing side arm that is really on par with the 226 and half the cost.

Wait. So the 226, CZ75, and Beretta 92 all came from 1975? Good lord they loved their DA/SA guns back then.

@chrisragone8785

2 жыл бұрын

Yup and striker fired Tupperware Glock came 7 years latter in 1982

@bryonslatten3147

2 жыл бұрын

I heard that the DoD mandated decocker DA/SA’s to prevent negligent discharges by less-skilled pistol carriers.

@mkshffr4936

Жыл бұрын

Much better design IMO.

Beretta is better than the Sig because it appeared first in the Original Die Hard movie

@unkulwilly

3 жыл бұрын

and made a smiley face on a target in "Lethal Weapon"

@rainwoods4383

3 жыл бұрын

And is the trademark weapon in Max Payne series and John Woo movies.

@shanek6582

3 жыл бұрын

It was my first pistol at age 19 because of those movies

@aggelos123

3 жыл бұрын

Beretta is easier to tape to back - hence it won the audition

@90whatever

3 жыл бұрын

Beretta and AUG together. 80s firearm high water point.

not just that, but the p228 and p229 were also used in every branch of the military as well.

Thanks. I have a Beretta 92X, dual action and I love it. No safeties but it's ready to go right away. I was eyeballing the P226 and this video helped me make my decision on getting one. I'm also going to go compact too.

"One pistol to rule them all, and in the darkness bind them." That right there, earned a like.

@drankurbaruah

3 жыл бұрын

So did this.

@sambarris9843

3 жыл бұрын

The quick Eye of Sauron flash was a nice touch too. :-D

@spiritof76forever81

2 жыл бұрын

I missed that. Thanks for pointing it out

@SomeGuy.

2 жыл бұрын

@@sambarris9843 even at .25 speed it’s just a flash. It’s a very nice touch.

@LYLEWOLD

2 жыл бұрын

@@SomeGuy. yep. you gotta pause as soon as you see the flash, and use the to move back and forth a frame at a time.

Plus the Beretta is just so beautiful objectively. Handles so well and looks so iconic

@oceaser6977

2 жыл бұрын

I prefer the look of the Sig

@chrisragone8785

2 жыл бұрын

@@oceaser6977 Can’t account for bad taste lol. Some even like the looks of Glock’s lol. The standard Beretta 92 is without question an iconic look. No other pistol besides a 1911 comes close to the aesthetic appeal of a Beretta 92.

@ZombieLincoln666

2 жыл бұрын

@@oceaser6977 sig also looks nice but it’s no beretta

@gs6734

2 жыл бұрын

@@chrisragone8785 I say revolvers win the looks contest. S&W 27 for me

@smtbigelow

2 жыл бұрын

@@gs6734 Im gonna have to go with the Colt Python for revolvers in the looks department.

Insightful, intelligent, unbiased and above all fun! ^^ Great content as always TFB TV and Mr Reeves, keep up the good work!

Just got a 92g. Regarding your knock about the Ambi decocker adding width. I actually happen to really like that. I've found it adds a bit more grip when manipulating the slide. Its something that I've grown to appreciate about the Beretta when training with it.

Only one of these guns was taped to the back of John McClane during the penultimate scene of the definitive Christmas classic.

which is the king of metal 9mms? doesn't matter 'cause I still want both.

@VosperCDN

3 жыл бұрын

Best answer. One can't have enough good quality pistols.

@dennisb4027

3 жыл бұрын

I have the LTT. The question is do I buy the M9A3 or 226 Legion?

@dsanchez9703

3 жыл бұрын

Yup

@ronaldmorton6852

3 жыл бұрын

@@dennisb4027 Yes

@toomanybrews7123

3 жыл бұрын

Also, it's the CZ75... 🤣

Can’t we just all agree they are both really, really cool. I guess the CZ-75 would really round out a trio nicely.

@donalddicorcia2433

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. All fine pistols.

@sparky_-mf2cs

2 жыл бұрын

Beretta and cz are my favorite 9mm pistols

@MrScar665

2 жыл бұрын

CZ 75 line of pistol tops them off both

@sparky_-mf2cs

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrScar665 doubt it . Berettas IMO

@MrScar665

2 жыл бұрын

@@sparky_-mf2cs Berreta vs Shadow 2 or TSO. Doubt it.

Very cool review. I sold a stainless 92 back in the day and have regretted it ever since. I have never owned a P226 had a friend that did ....both are outstanding firearms.

James: “it’s very close but the beretta is what I like better” Us: dude you used a Langdon tactical beretta, it’s a lot better than the stock James: * shoves short shorts and craft beer across table as bribe *

@neutronalchemist3241

3 жыл бұрын

A 92X Full Size with Langdon Tactical Trigger Job costs less than a stock P226.

@tfbtv

3 жыл бұрын

Ha. Good eye. No trigger job so it's basically better sights and some cosmetic improvements IMO. I'd much prefer the standard 92 with an LTT trig job over an LTT with a stock trigger.

@danielhenderson8316

3 жыл бұрын

@@tfbtv - It still has a D Spring installed which lightens the trigger up a bit.

@astonishingmuthaphuckers2705

3 жыл бұрын

You can get the absolute works from Langdon Tactical 92x Centurion and RDO slide cuts for the price of a Sig 226 Legion RXP

@keithsimpson2685

3 жыл бұрын

@@tfbtv Extended mag releases on m9's are basically mandatory.

Your down to earth eloquent use of the English language and knowledge make your videos a pleasure to watch. Keep up the good work. Have taken notes your a good mentor internally to your organization as well.

P226's duty track record is impeccable.

@cjohnson9211

Жыл бұрын

Just make sure you grease them rails

@gutblaster187

Жыл бұрын

It failed the mud test in the XM9 trials but the Army decided against counting the test. If you want to look into it, see the GAO report.

@antoniotula262

Жыл бұрын

NYPD had a temporary rust issue with theirs (they cheaped out on the K Kote) & the mags not going all the way in when you thought it was in.

@gutblaster187

Жыл бұрын

How would you know?

@great_deception

5 ай бұрын

@@cjohnson9211Grease/lube any metal or polymer pistol's frame rails

Metal wonder-nines and didn't even mention a CZ. Tsk tsk. Those tight shorts are cutting off oxygen to your brain James.

@justing42

3 жыл бұрын

CZ....pffft

@fchanMSI

3 жыл бұрын

This was presentation of the 1984 armed forces pistol competition so at that time CZ was still under Warsaw Pact. Maybe we can have competition for Warsaw Pact pistols, if there was such thing, and have competition between those two.

@julian23561

3 жыл бұрын

@@fchanMSI it's a joke, don't worry about it.

@MarkAndrewEdwards

3 жыл бұрын

This is correct. The king of the metal 9mm's is the CZ 75. I like and have owned by Beretta 92 and the SIG P226, but the CZ is the best of the three, despite some quirks.

@michaelsestak8383

3 жыл бұрын

@@MarkAndrewEdwards what would be some quirks of the Cz75?

Back in the 90’s we were issued both guns. Oddly, the majority of the officers found it a bit more difficult to qualify with the Beretta, but....the reliability and accuracy was equal, the trigger on the Beretta was liked better. The Sig had better sights. And when it came down to choosing, it was about equal. Personal preference does make a difference. The Berettas are long gone, replaced by mostly Glocks, but I still carry a SIG 226 and love it. Good video.

@joseromero3004

3 жыл бұрын

Berettas are so long gone that Wilson Combat and Langdon Tactical Tech are overwelmed with backed up orders...Berettas still a rocking legend better then before with Brigadier slides and options.

@dkoh.13

3 жыл бұрын

@@joseromero3004 He's talking about his department, not the current gun market....

@joseromero3004

3 жыл бұрын

@@dkoh.13 true I understand that now, it was the state replacing both the Sig and the Beretta for the cheaper wholesale priced glocks. I missed that part. Thanks. To be honest I started with a glock 17 and tried the Sig, but now preffer the Beretta's feel and design with Wilson low profile decocker only of course. But all 3 are my top 3 anyway 1. Beretta 2. SIG 3. Glock. Just opinion...

@burmiester1

3 жыл бұрын

When Berettas and SIGs first hit the market in the 80s both guns used the two-dot combat sights. Qualifying with a Beretta should be cake since the barrel is longer and doesn't move, so it's inherently a more accurate design. The Beretta's a bit bigger, sure, but it's not hard to carry. Hell, with the P226 now being made with a milled slide it's probably just as heavy as the Beretta, if not heavier. I miss the old stamped SIGs.

@keegans5695

3 жыл бұрын

@@burmiester1 Beretta 92 barrels absolutely do move, they're short recoil just like sigs or 1911s. They simply use a locking mechanism that differs from the typical tilting barrel design. They're basically the descendants of the P38 and use a locking block that slides out of place when the slide reciprocates, unlocking the barrel from the slide. The Px4 by comparison uses a rotating barrel rather than a tilting one, but they all have moving barrels. Only blowback (makarov, hi point), delayed blowback (steyr GB) and gas operated designs (desert eagle) have fixed barrels. Any recoil-operated design has a reciprocating barrel.

Are used to have a Sigg P226. I loved it. It was one of the best Semi automatic handguns I’ve ever shot. Extremely accurate. The only thing I could never except was that it was so top-heavy bulky and had a high barrel axis., I checked out operetta 92 and was instantly impressed. I bought a civilian M9 a few years ago after selling my Sigg P226 and never looked back. The Beretta just felt like a natural pointer it felt lighter on the top with that open top slide and didn’t have all that bulk that the Sig did. That is the only thing that made me decide between the two. Other than that both are great 9 mm pistols

The Beretta and the Sig tied in the military testing, the Beretta was chosen as the military sidearm for one reason only, the magazines were cheaper. It boils down to what you like /are used to.

The Beretta comes with a bowl of Bolagnaise Pasta and grapa. So that’s a win in my eyes.

@kingbaldwiniv5409

3 жыл бұрын

I love grapa. . . and meaty red sauce, I am in!

@italo512

3 жыл бұрын

I'm bringing the tiramisu and growing a mustache!!

Now you might want to do a comparison that includes the CZ 75 because of all these comments lol

@Imragnar1

3 жыл бұрын

Cz 75 kicks the 92s butt

@winterlounge

3 жыл бұрын

The CZ wins hands down.

@keithv3767

3 жыл бұрын

CZs are mysterious evil communist guns - 1984 man.

@emiramick5305

3 жыл бұрын

I have both and without any brand bias to me 92FS is a better handgun all around. It is more accurate in my hands at least, more reliable (actually only handgun I have that never malfunctioned), slightly better trigger, easier to operate and better looking although that one is subjective.

@johnfowler6189

2 жыл бұрын

Have a Beretta 92x and the SIG MK25 and I'll never part with either. The Beretta due to it's vertec frame gives me a better grip and trigger control when firing DA. I have large hands (not extra large) and the SIG grip being a tad bulky doesn't allow me good trigger pull firing DA. Have installed the short trigger reset kit in the SIG and trigger is much better than the Beretta. As far as accuracy, the Beretta shots much tighter groups than the SIG at 8+ meters. Don't really know if that's due to a longer barrel or sight plane.

Loved the review! I've been in the market for a 92a1, and allllmost picked one up earlier today, and would have if my impulse control was any weaker. I already own a Mk25 and love it (at least after swapping out the sights to get a better sight picture. This helped cement me getting the 92a1 in the near future.

What a very-very comprehensive review sir. I found this review to be extremely informative...so....thank you very much for your thorough research. Be well.

That was a really well-done discussion between the two pistols. I was in the US Air Force at that time as a cop. 83-82 when they started this crap, we all heard rumors that we were going to get the Beretta 9 mm never heard anything about the Sig Sauer. Of course since it was a military deal it took all the four years I was in, to pick the Beretta 9 m m. So I got to hear about it, never got to see it or carry it! LOL. Now, I really truly like the new Berettas and I've got seven of the damn things in various manufacturers and slide types. I truly like them all, whether it's the G Style decocker or the standard safety with a slightly swept up engagement so it makes it harder to engage the safety when you're racking the slide. If I had to pick one out of all the ones I own now, I like the new 92x Centurion , because it's slightly shorter and it just feels better in my hand.

@genxovitepro194

3 жыл бұрын

The 92x centurion is the best! Perfect size great grips

I love both my 92 and retired law enforcement 226 , HK USP 45 and 9 are sitting next to them along with a Styer M9A1 and 19x i usually have the Glock or Styer on me...enjoy 😉

That's it!!! I've thought about this long and hard. This video has convinced me........I need them both. Thanks guys!!! P.S. I'm a long time follower. Fellow Floridian who cut his teeth on long range at the Manatee gun club....back when anyone could sit down and shoot 600 yards. Still great content after all these years! Well done boys.

I've been qualifying Expert and carrying the M9 as my duty weapon since 1994. I love it, and I also bought a 92FS as a home gun. Both are very reliable and accurate. Never fired the P226, though.

@dick8997

2 жыл бұрын

I finally just found the m9a1 compact I have been hunting for. Has a #12 Wilson combat hammer spring thing shoots amazing

CZ: “am I joke to you?”

@judethenekogamer3651

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@kingbaldwiniv5409

3 жыл бұрын

Accu-Shadow 2 laughs at the Sig and the 92, "I am better than both of you."

@napalmstickylikeglue

3 жыл бұрын

Very much so. Ugly ass guns.

@jolebole-yt

3 жыл бұрын

These millennials know nothing. When CZ was making guns, the Sig owner was not even born.

@napalmstickylikeglue

3 жыл бұрын

@@jolebole-yt lol the Model T was made before everyone who is on here was born. By your logic, it's better than a modern pick up truck.... Something being old, doesn't make it better. Ugly ass guns lol

TFB has become my go to channel and one of my favorites. I, and I assume many others, appreciate the focus being on firearms and the canon of firearms tech/accessories.

Get both, obviously. I've had a S&W 659 since 1985 and shoot it like it's part of my arm. The 226 and 92 are in the stable now as well, as is a CZ and several other "wonder nine" pistols. Great video, thank you. It's great to see the comparison still rages and is still relevant in this era dominated by polymer striker fired pistols. These pistols are legendary and definitely still absolutely fine choices. I just can't choose, but if I had to only have one, I would keep my 659.

Thanks for a great and informative video. Great work on an honest eval. Personally, I adore my P226, but have never had the pleasure of firing the 92. Might have to go rent one somewhere and give it a run!

I love my 92G. I almost picked up a West German P226 at a gun show last month but there was a stunning 686 no dash I couldn't pass up haha

@SteamCrane

3 жыл бұрын

686 has entered the chat. All others flee.

I just happen to be a Sig and Beretta fanatic. I love my Beretta's, and the P226 is on my list.

I loved the style and the vibe of this eval/comparison. The presenter's depth of knowledge and objective study was great. Based on this video, I'd trust these guys to "give it to me straight."

This video was full of amazing quips and pistol work, thank you sir!

I still use a P226 as my primary handgun for pretty much everything. I just love it. I have 20rd factory mags for it too.

Pecker pulling contest, well that made my day and it's early yet. Happy New Year!

I couldn’t decide which was better so I have both. I don’t get to shoot them much anymore due to time constraints but they are both awesome guns and fun to shoot!

Excellent video! I carried a P220 and then a P226 for years as a duty weapon, and I currently own two Beretta 92FS' - the Compact and the Brigadier. Both the P226 and the 92FS are outstanding and I do not have a single bad thing to say about either. I prefer the 92s for a few reasons, one being that for me I like the safety/decocker on the 92FS. Thank you for an intelligent comparison - your conclusions resonate with my personal experiences. Well done!

Had used both of them over 25 years - German made P226 with stamped slide and M9 - and besides, that Sig has a lot of records & prestige as legend says, I stayed with M9. I had to replace pins in Sig Sauers's slide after every 3000 rounds, slide finish worn up also quickly... Beretta - better practical accuracy, quality, grip and shine design. DA/ SA with alloy frame are still great today, I personally preffer them over plastic strikers. Beretta is a touch of late 80's and true film legend, so I understand well its market fame. It is a very good pistol in the end. For me - the most loved one. Coupled with 10 inch barreled AK 7,62 mm ;-)

@duroisgawd

3 жыл бұрын

you don't have to replace any pins in the billet slide.

@JacksonWalter735

3 жыл бұрын

Personally I feel like there is slightly less felt recoil on the Beretta 92 and it's a more softer shooter due to the locking block nature of the gun and the open slide design. The barrel doesn't move compared to the more common tilting barrel design and the open slide means most of the reciprocating mass from the slide is below the barrel leading to a softer shooting gun. To me it's most noticeable if you are shooting fast. Triggers are great in both guns and so are the ergonomics. Aftermarket support are great for both and you can customize it to your heart's galore. The newer Beretta 92s fixed most of the issue I had with it over the newer Sig P226s like the lack of an accessory rail, adjustable sights, and so on. I do have to mention that getting optics like a red dot on the 92 is a pricey endeavor compared to the Sig P226 because of the locking block and open slide design. You have to spend top dollar to get an optics compatible Beretta 92

@duroisgawd

3 жыл бұрын

@@JacksonWalter735 Have you shot a p226 with e2 grips? Best upgrade you could ever do on a p226.

@ryszardkoprowski1414

3 жыл бұрын

@@duroisgawd But I have had a W. German made one, not US made.

@kingbaldwiniv5409

3 жыл бұрын

@@JacksonWalter735, I agree on the recoil and feel.

0:05 SIG 226 all day.

James I know I’m late to this party, but still thrilled you did this video . I have one of each, and have asked myself, Which One. Love them both Thanks James Just another Florida man from LBTS

Fantastic summary. Very helpful info.

"The Air Force woke up on the front lawn after texting their girlfriend with pissed pants" lol epic as fuuc! lolol

The Browning Hi-Power

for me I absolutely fell in love with the feel of the M9, recoil, grip angle, all of it except the safety gets in the way and takes training to handle.

I have a p220 and an M9. Love them both. Carried an M9 in the Corps , but I just love Sigs. The way they look, feel, and shoot. If I had to choose I'd go with the 226.

Have both and love them both.

@avshockey6633

3 жыл бұрын

The only logical choice in a situation like this.

Subliminal LOTR message nice.

Informative and thorough! Great review!

This is one of the most entertaining videos for me - one that I go back and watch every few months, just for the fun of it.

Thanks for the interesting video. In 1984, I went out to buy the Beretta 92 after I learned that it won the JSP trials. I have shorter fingers and the trigger reach for the Beretta in double action was a no go for me. The P226 suited me fine and it was $20 cheaper at $420 so I bought it. I knew at the time that it was technically as good as the Beretta based on the JSP results. I updated it last year with a new slide with a red dot optic cut. It's a fine gun.

@JohnSmith-xv2ob

2 жыл бұрын

Last P226 I saw at my local store was over $1000... Good Jimeny Jeeves do I love inflation.

@Hialeah1925

2 жыл бұрын

Why the slide?

@Tony-om5kr

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hialeah1925 The new slide was cut for a red dot optic (included). Helps with my old eyes.

@Hialeah1925

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tony-om5kr ah… could you not have had it cut?

@Tony-om5kr

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hialeah1925 Yes, for about $200 or more including shipping. For $400 I got a new slide with a Sig red dot included; so less hassle.

KZread is so insane they keep changing the Bell notification on my subscription to my gun channels

@akmarksman

3 жыл бұрын

@anvil schnieder they straight up unsubbed me from Forgotten Weapons..

@peternorton5648

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah they are screwing around with all the gun channels like that. I have to turn my notifications back on all the time. The only way to make them listen is to kick them in the dollars signs. Unfortunately we wouldn’t get to enjoy any of the content that we want.

I own a model 92F (full size) it fits my hand perfect! Many years later...It still fits my hand...PERFECT! TBH..Both are exceptional in terms of performance as intended. The fact is I love/adore the all metal feel/fit of either of these pistols! BTW, I worked my 1st police duty round back in the early 1980s. What was "issued" was not what I expected in terms of duty services so I asked and was allowed to purchase my own service/duty pistol which was the relatively new Sig P-226. While at the range a few fellow officers commented on my service pistol and it seemed like it was now considered the ideal service/duty sidearm at that time. I still own that very same pistol and it's still just flawless in terms of accuracy and overall feel.

Enjoyed the comparison. The P225 MK25 was the first 9mm I bought followed by a SP 2022 as a second 9mm to have. I enjoy shooting both. I am getting ready to pick up my first Beretta 92 a g model Elite LTT and am really looking for another great go to war gun as some might say with reliability and strength. Looking forward to taking the two to the range soon. Thanks, sir.

@mikecumbo7531

Жыл бұрын

Are you sure you don’t mean P226 MK25? The P225 is a fine pistol but I don’t think there was a Mk25 variant. The SP2022 is a great gun, a challenge to field strip, but great.

@redesert_boy8202

Жыл бұрын

@@mikecumbo7531 you are correct, my typo. i did say p226 mk25 in my first comment before this one

So in summary, get both

Great job. Love your dedication and hard work.

@tfbtv

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks C Will

Thanks for the video, I know I do prefer the sig, however a properly maintained M9 for which I have been training with in advanced shooting courses for more than 15years does the job quite well. Can't beat either of them as long as you train with the one you choose. I just wish the M9 Locking blocks were more durable. This and recoil management is the only reason I like the sig over the M9. With this said i have more experience with the M9. All is personal preference and what you train with.

It’s the Sig 226 for me. Since I’m not the government the cost difference isn’t an issue. I really like the frame mounted decocker . I bought the elite scorpion model. Trigger pull at 4lbs 4ozs was where I really like it. One other thing I really like about the Sig is the looks, man that’s one pretty gun. Thanks for posting.

Beretta M9 😍😍😍

It should be noted that the USAF looked at aluminum-frame pistols far back in the early 1950s. The early efforts brought forth the Colt Commander and S&W 39.

@MellowFellowOfYellow

2 жыл бұрын

The Air Force historically was very conscious of good small arms strategy. They essentially saved the AR-15 because they were the only ones not dumb enough to let politics get in the way of an amazing platform

@petesheppard1709

2 жыл бұрын

@@MellowFellowOfYellow For a bunch of spoiled flyboys, they have a good eye for guns. General LeMay saw it as the ideal replacement for M1/M2 carbines used by the Air Police. It caught on with Special Forces, and the rest is history.

I've got both. The high bore axis of the Sig and the recoil impulse leaves a bit to be desired. The Beretta is my first choice

@proguninc4080

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. The Beretta is my first choice as well.

@JohnSmith-xv2ob

2 жыл бұрын

Beretta gang in here lol. Sad though, I work at a gun store and the number of DA pistol fans are few and far between. Fewer and further than 1911s and revolvers. But I guess that just means we can all hog the short bus by ourselves. ;)

@bobsmith-qu2oq

2 жыл бұрын

The fact that all the shooters in this test - not to mention the .mil dudes that use it- shot it just as well as the 92 shows that the bore axis bs is just that. B.S.

@proguninc4080

2 жыл бұрын

@@bobsmith-qu2oq.... I'm guessing you're a Sig fan and your feelings are hurt because we said we like the Beretta better. Too bad. And no, its not "just bs." Its science.

@AJ-gk7bn

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I’m gonna call a huge BS on that one chief. I’m not here to say one gun is better than the other but to use the “high bore axis” as excuse against the sig is just total bullshit. Having a high bore axis on as tame of a round as 9mm has such a minimal effect it’s hardly even worth mentioning to begin with. It’s completely overplayed. And then to add on TOP of that the sig p226 is a fuckin 34 ounce gun made out of aluminum alloy... Cmon… get outta here If you shoot the Beretta better then that’s fine and actually totally respectable. But it’s bore axis has absolutely nothing to do with that and this over played myth needs to be laid to bed.

Thanks a lot for this important review. This is the best comparison review about those two excellent pistols, I saw so far 👏🏻. Kindly yours, Roland

*Carried the 92fs for over 10 years, saved my life many times, HOOAH USAF Combat Veteran and Federal LEO*

P226 ftw, the 92 is well known for being on most if not all gun free zone signs

@andyhenderson441

3 жыл бұрын

🤣

@avshockey6633

3 жыл бұрын

Yup. When I see one of those signs, I assume it means I can't carry my 92, so in those cases, I carry my 226.

@GTFBITK

3 жыл бұрын

I actually used that reasoning at Costco when they asked me to leave. I was carrying a Glock.

Great content! Shot both, love both, happy with either but very slightly prefer the Sig.

They're both so great. My grip and hand size meant that I tended to 'ride' the slide release on my Sig, preventing lock back on empty, and that was a minor annoyance, especially in competition. The Sig has an incredibly comfy grip, too. That said, I find the Beretta to be super natural in my hands, and the thing has never, ever failed. Talk about a choice with no downside, huh?

@gutblaster187

Жыл бұрын

The slide release problem on the 226 seems to be ubiquitous but I'd rather just live with it than adopting a special grip applicable to a single pistol.

Agreed both awesome guns. I’m partial to the sig.

The answer is CZ P-01

I own both and love them both. In fact almost all of my pistols are Sigs and Beretta's. My 226 is a Legion. I also have the Wilson Combat Beretta 92 Centurion, which is a work of and slides like it's on rails. I have the Sig 229 Dark Elite, comparable to my Beretta 92FS compacts (I have a few of them) in terms of feel. Again, both shoot incredibly well and it would be a tough call to pick one over the other. Both the Sigs and Beretta's are incredibly balanced, reliable and accurate. Both are great looking and feeling pistols. I maybe give a slight edge to the Beratta in terms of looks - I like the open slide. The 229 Dark Elite is a close second with its enhanced beaver tail.

Good detail video between a review for me. Quality information I run them both like 4 Sig 2 92FS one US one Italian made, 2-96 40 SW. In the Sig line P series I am missing a Sig P228

Only of them is the Lethal Weapon.

@GeorgeSemel

3 жыл бұрын

It's also a Christmas Movie Pistol of choice, though Hans Gruber shot the H+K!

@colin1818

3 жыл бұрын

The Glock 7?

@colin1818

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevenbobbybills - LOL, glad somebody got the reference!

@EfftupSmith

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevenbobbybills I used this ias a quiz question once. what;s wrong with what he says? You got 5 points if you said Everything except the word Glock.

I have both. The beretta has a slight edge in my hands. 98 scores with the92 sig 226 94 to 97 score . Carried both on duty. Both very dependable . Broke an extractor on the sig after 20 years. Sig fixed it and replaced every worn part. I carry both on and off. They are my go to semis.

Well done …very comprehensive analysis. The Beretta has a way more distinguishable look. I would like one . I have 2 Sigs already.

Great review. Thanks for the content.

Berretta? Sig? No, CZ75

Have them both, love them both.... prefer the Sig with a short reset trigger. Just a better fit and feel for me and I don't like a slide mounted safety (or any safety, for that matter, on a SA/DA semi-auto). Both are super high quality firearms.

I'm glad they now make both in single action only. Kind of digging the Beretta 92XI. Gotta check them both out more though.

The INS used to issue the Beretta 96D for Agents. The falling locking block would break a lot and the trigger return spring would break and be replaced with the Wolffe INS conversion.

Cz75...now you don’t have to watch the video

Dunno but I just like the feel of the 226 on my hand better.

As always, James provided a really good argument for getting both guns. I really love my SIG P226 Elite RX SAO, it sits at the ready in my nightstand wearing a TLR-7 night light. I recently acquired an early model Beretta 92 with the frame mounted safety(pre- 92S or 92FS) it is a joy to shoot and an absolute tack driver in spite of it's age. I saw comments below about the CZ-75, but it was not part of the XM trials (Czechoslovakia was still under communist rule at that time), this review was about the top winners of those trials. I would love to see James conduct the same range test and include a CZ-75 or maybe even the CZ-75-SP01. Just a thought

I’ve never shot a Beretta, but I love my Sig P-Series. I’ve picked up a P226 and 2 x P229s as LEO trade-ins for around $500-$600 then put all of Gray Guns parts in as well as Bar-Sto barrels on all. P226 and P229 now have a .40SW and .357 Sig barrel each which only need the barrel change to change calibers and P229 has .357 Sig and 9mm barrels with different recoil spring and magazines for each caliber. The aftermarket and ease of caliber swap have always been a big selling points for the Sigs for me.

I own both a P226 and a 92FS. Both are incredible guns with great triggers but after all is said and done it’s Beretta FTW. An M9 was the last weapon I was issued in my 23 year Army career and I’m pretty fond of them.

TFB continues to be one of the most interesting and professional gun channels.

Another excellent video! Thanks for posting!

Most helpful as always!