Smilodon certainly didn't have more bite power than a tiger. In the documentary Prehistoric Hunters, they compared the bite force of Smilodon and the African lion, and the African lion had several times more power in its jaws. The smilodon's skull was not built for the force exerted by the lion when biting, and it would have been blown apart.

@2freezing

10 ай бұрын

I think I watched that documentary too, they couldn’t bite down hard or shake their prey in their jaws. If they did their k9s would shatter. They also didn’t have any change of direction because of the stubbed tail.

@NathanDubose

10 ай бұрын

They used their neck for forcing downwards. The only use for the long tooths

@nileshsharma5721

10 ай бұрын

Ohh

@abcdef87243

10 ай бұрын

@@nileshsharma5721 ach

@shawnj1966

10 ай бұрын

There is a lot of speculation as to how the Sabre toothed cats, used their canines, and against which prey they may have been employed. It makes no sense that they would have been used on smaller prey, so we must assume that they had a design specifically for larger prey animals. Bite force isn't necessarily a determining factor in a fight, when one animal is more robust and muscular, in comparison to the other. A modern large cat may be able to bite harder, but they would be doing it with much smaller teeth. One stab by much larger teeth, is causing wounds that will lead to extensive blood loss and weakness in the prey animal. A Smilodon, would be much more powerful than a modern large cat. It would pin it, bite it once, and wait for it to bleed out!

The Smilodon didn't rely on a strong bite force. It fact it's weaker compared to today's big cats. It's weapons was it's immense forearms which subdues their prey. The teeth were used to puncture and cause tremendous blood lose. But the teeth has a weakness in that the side walls were fragile and weak. So it was very careful with it's bite.

@markmccarty9793

10 ай бұрын

Everything I've read about smilodon stated that the canines were fragile. The killing method was to rip open the throat. The forelimbs and shoulders were large enough to hold down larger prey. Large felines attack larger prey in a similar fashion by suffocation today right down to puma today!

@overeasymode

10 ай бұрын

@@markmccarty9793 I think they would have been aware how fragile their teeth were. I see a more defensive animal that act more timid and protective. As oppose to a tiger which such an aggressive animal. In a fight between them a tiger will just swipe and bite whatever part that presented itself.

@alexeptop

10 ай бұрын

For almost anything you said us just a theory and not any big evidence to support these claims maybe expect about the teeth

@hydro.pl.27

5 ай бұрын

@@alexeptopWell all of Paleontology is one giant Theory. Some can be proven but that’s very limited. Unless we were there to witness all of these events in history we will never know exactly how all these creatures and events actually were.

@captainwhisky7021

4 ай бұрын

What about he's paw's n claws?

I thought Smilodon's canines were good for ambush, but not for close combat.

@widodoakrom3938

10 ай бұрын

True

@oliversperry9274

10 ай бұрын

Ey also had a relatively weak bite force tbh

@yentasnivla

10 ай бұрын

@@oliversperry9274 truly this does not mean that much. It's not like the other animal will just sit there and say bite me. In a real fight speed flexibility stamina agression and intelegence would determine the outcomes. Tigers, lions and jaguars take down crocodilians in the wild and the Caymans/crocks have way stronger bite force.

@DanielVictor-qw6fh

10 ай бұрын

Smilodon canines were fragile. They are used for killing not fighting.

@Darth_Malgus3516

10 ай бұрын

@@DanielVictor-qw6fh No they werent, a recent study found that the fangs could pierce the skulls of other Smilodons.

Recent studies show that the huge teeth were more a deterrent than an effective tool. Many skulls were found with broken off tooth. Anyway cats now are more agile and and probably more intelligent which may give them the advantage.

@MrGrahameg

10 ай бұрын

The smilodon lived with tigers but if they could beat a tiger could bring down the same prey that exists today. They somehow did not..the long canines would be inneffectual in a real fight..with which claws are used with cats.

Fun fact: The largest wild tiger ever recorded was not a Siberian tiger, but a Bengal Tiger shot by a hunter in the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh in the 60s. The tiger weighed whopping 390 kilograms. These days, wild Bengal Tigers tend to be larger than the Siberian Tigers because Siberian Tigers have shrunken in size due to loss of prey. In captivity, Siberian Tigers still outgrow Bengal Tigers.

@grizzlybeast4513

10 ай бұрын

Any wild cat get size in captivity We see that Bengal tiger was hunted which means it was lived in wild

@grizzlybeast4513

10 ай бұрын

Bengal tiger is the biggedt wild cat in present day

@BigBrotherTheWatcher1984

10 ай бұрын

@@grizzlybeast4513 Yes. But Siberian tigers can still grow larger than Bengal Tigers if they have enough prey.

@Wildaninal9553

10 ай бұрын

That is the weight when it eats a baby buffalo, but normally it weighs only 324.3 kg

@Darth_Malgus3516

10 ай бұрын

Bengal Tigers are also being poached, why would Siberian Tigers shrink but Bengal Tigers wouldnt??

Siberian tiger had a much stronger bite, but Smilodon Populator would have been more powerful (overall). Smilodon populator was like a bear/lion fusion that was built for raw power, but not speed. They likely overpowed and wrestled their prey down, punctured the neck, then let them bleed out. This way they didnt damage their canines.

@fortress7493

3 ай бұрын

Tiger's swipe paw is stronger than Smilodon btw

@raptor___

9 күн бұрын

@@fortress7493Its not.Are u dumb? THE WHOLE REASON SMILODONS REACH 436 KG IS BECAUSE OF THEIR ROBUST AND DENSE BONES AND INSANE AMOUNT OF MUSCLE MASS.THEIR FOREARMS ARE BUILT LIKE A BEAR.THEIR SHOULDERS ARE JACKED TOO

It's been a while since I've watched these videos, back then this channel only had 200k+ subs, now it has over double!! I'm so happy for the channel. I've always loved it and now the videos are even better.

Thanks!!! for posting the video I've been requesting for a long time!!!

Even before watching this, my money is on the ancient Siberian Tiger which still had its natural big size and strength. Smilodon canine isn't designed for combat, it quickly breaks against such an opponent as Siberian Tiger. Buh if the Smilodon in question is Fatalis, Siberian Tiger may lose.

@susman791

10 ай бұрын

Bruh u know sabers hunted way bigger prey with thicker skin such as wholly rhinos and giant ground sloths there teeth are not weak also they have stronger bite force than tiger tiger would lose to saber because saber has everything except run speed saber would win mid diff.

@catboycarls

10 ай бұрын

@@susman791 their canines are used to impale, that won't work on a Siberian Tiger that's a solo assassin. Remember that cave Lions at the time kill Smilodons. Buh at the same time, there are several subspecies of Smilodon, the Fatalis will kill a Siberian Tiger.

@susman791

10 ай бұрын

@@catboycarls if it kills it kills lol I don't get what you're saying if the Smilidon bites the tiger the teeth work the same if sabers teeth can pierce the hide of wolly rhinos I'm sure it can pierce the tiger 😂also sabers are stronger than a tiger and where way bigger so saber wins lol

@susman791

10 ай бұрын

@@catboycarls dont all teeth impale though lol 😂

@FBugle

10 ай бұрын

Ancient Siberian tigers are exaggerated. They were same size as today.

Smilodon (assuming we’re talking about the biggest of the 3 sub species) was larger than a Siberian Tiger. Infact it was about the largest feline that’s ever existed. However, what potentially swings this, are it’s enormous canines. While very useful at delivering a killer bite vs prey, they were practically useless against other apex predators. As a result of this, anything which could stand up to it and fight at close quarters, as a Siberian Tiger could, would have very good chance. That said, this is very hard to call and could certainly go either way.

@justdynee

7 ай бұрын

I think you're right in the first instance. A smilodon would be very vulnerable. The Tiger is very, very fast and agile and would not be waiting for smilodon to open wide. Smilodon would have a major advantage though. If it got a hold of the tiger it would basically have it squeezed and locked up and would take all the time it needed to open wide. Pure brawn and strength. I think they got up to 1200 pounds but most were in the 800 to 1000 pound range for the biggest species.

Next battles: 1. Elephant vs Stegosaurus 2. Nile crocodile vs male great white shark 3. Lion pride vs male T. rex 4. Polar bear vs hippo 5. Sarcosuchus vs mosasaurus

@NV86thr

10 ай бұрын

Yeah,lions against a T-Rex, of course 😂😂😂😂 what's next, a Barracuda vs Megalodon? 😂

@DireFox7

10 ай бұрын

Stego Great White Shark Rex Hippo Mosa

@grizzlybeast4513

10 ай бұрын

Lion pride vs trex ☠️☠️

@NV86thr

10 ай бұрын

@@grizzlybeast4513 yeah. This is so stupid..Lions can't kill am elephant, i really can't see a lion catching a T-Rex jugular..xD xD stop dreaming

@VoxTheUkrainianComrade

10 ай бұрын

Elephant Shark Lion pride Polar bear Mosa

Smilodon 70-75%

Smilodon populators can actually reach 400 kg.

@emre5132

10 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@jericho4281

10 ай бұрын

@@Nickc710 around 880 pounds.

@haroldalan7080

10 ай бұрын

Yeah that's more than Today's african lions and Bengal tigers in the jungle,s and they used to hunt bigger prey like Bison, Mammoth and maybe Giant sloths that used to walk on all four,s🦥🦥.

@roseforyoubabe

10 ай бұрын

why did the narrator lie about populator weighing only 600 pounds unless he got populator confused with smilodon fatalis

@user-ec2kz1wu6d

10 ай бұрын

​@haroldalan7080 I'm not sure if you know this or not, but even the biggest lions are smaller than the biggest tigers...lions don't usually get to 700lbs

Smilodon certainly looks scary with those huge fangs, but I think they would have been more of a hindrance. They are too long for the opening of the jaw. It would have been a close call but I think the Siberian tiger would edge it...

Great video! More!

Smilodon

Smilodon Populator or Fatalis straight-up bodies Siberian Tigers. Fatalis was 900 pounds while Populator was even bigger at a full half-ton. Both Sabercats could fight adult mammoths in a group of 3. Even a pair of Tigers would rarely attack an Elephant. Sabercats also often attacked their prey with skull bites to pierce the eyes. Yes, they hunted humans. Indicating they knew how to identify weaknesses and how to exploit them. So, with equal intelligence and superior size and strength, there are no advantages left for the modern Tiger.

@malekat8539

10 ай бұрын

Yup

@Darth_Malgus3516

10 ай бұрын

I thought Smilodon Populator was solitary.

@death6461

10 ай бұрын

Fatalis was 600-700 pounds. Populator was the one that reached 800-900 pounds.

@xenon3659

10 ай бұрын

​@@Darth_Malgus3516no both fatalis and Populator were social animals. Most of sabertooth family including homotherium were also social animals.

@nathansganga7273

10 ай бұрын

Also, how were people able to conclude that smilodon had a weak bite force? Last time i checked, mammals bite with their bottom jaw and not the upper one. Also Smilodon had bones that were much more dense than any cat today, not to mention it was also the most muscular cat to ever live, jaw muscles included.

If I remember correctly Smilodon Populator averaged 400kg and was built more like a bear. More robust, compact and muscular. Better built for combat Saber tooth cat wins this

@illyaedwards7188

10 ай бұрын

400kg is at its biggest not average, and some Siberian Tigers have weighed over 400kg, Siberian Tigers win most of the time.

@johndoherty487

10 ай бұрын

@@illyaedwards7188 Tigers also have the stronger bite force advantage too. Smilodons were only capable of clamping their Saberteeth down with 150 psi of bite force. While Tiger's are capable of exerting 1050psi of bite force biting down.

@illyaedwards7188

10 ай бұрын

@@johndoherty487your right, I read an article were it said Smilodon cats were weak in the Jaws, there long canines were more for show then bite force.

@johndoherty487

10 ай бұрын

@@illyaedwards7188 Smilodons saberteeth were for more than just show. Their Saberteeth were still very strong with direct downward pressures. Smilodons used their Saberteeth like a pickaxe. Throwing their Saberteeth downwards with their very strong neck muscles. For puncturing flesh or the skull of their prey.

SMILODON STOMPS AAAAA

Pointing out mistakes: - First of all they aren't rivals, never were. Smilodon did not co-exist with any tiger. - Here you are comparing a population/subspecies against an entire genus. S. populator beats Siberian tiger. S. fatalis will be closer but confidently I'd say, fatalis will win. S. gracilis loses though. Here, you focused on fatalis. - Smilodon bite isn't as powerful as a tiger bite. The pressure is probably lower, and weaker canines. However it makes for a much deadlier bite with its knife-like fangs. - Siberian tigers are smaller than S. fatalis, weighing an average of 190-200 kgs, and the largest specimen was 270 kgs. (All reliable records). Meanwhile the Fatalis was ~220-230 kgs on average (species level? specimens although unwise to calculate average for long-gone animals). S. fatalis maxed over 300 kgs in reality, the 280 kgs has been surpassed now. Some going as far as 342 kgs although this I doubt. - Smilodon fatalis and populator, were bulkier than any pantherine.

Smilodon's huge canines were just for display but more of a hindrance. It even struggled to bite deep because those teeth were in the way. The Siberian tiger has everything in correct proportion so would have won.

@2freezing

10 ай бұрын

I’ve been thinking exactly what you said for years. Their teeth is an disadvantage in many ways

@gotmeatbruh4148

5 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@2freezingyes the teeth weren’t meant for fighting, they used their teeth to quickly pick axe a prey’s throat, however the Amur tigers in the wild rarely even got to 650lbs(300kg)where as the average weight for a male Smilodon Populator was 850-900lbs(410kg) and they had much stronger and denser muscles and bones, the Amur Tiger is longer and has better speed and agility, but it would lose a head on fight with a saber tooth because it’s too weak, it’s one of the few times an Amur Tiger would be out muscled by another big cat. So more than likely the Smilodon would win

Thank you so much 😊

really like your videos

Smilodons Saberteeth Had a weaker bite force than a Siberian Tiger. Siberian Tigers have a bite force of 1050PSI. While Smilodon Populators Saberteeth could only withstand forces up to 150PSI of clamping force while bitting down on hard bone. Before the Saberteeth snapped. But Smiliodons teeth were still capable of withstanding stronger forces than 150psi without their teeth breaking. But only in Short quick bursts, of their teeth slammed down on their prey like a pickax instead of constant pressure bitting down on their prey like Lions and Tigers.

He is right. I would go for the Smiledon as well. I love the way he narrates the video. great voice for it. Thanks for them.

Yeah I doubt the smiladons bite would have been very powerful. Got to rember those teeth would break easily. I don't think they would kill with a typical bit anyways, from what I've heard they would pin the prey down and stab down with the teeth. I just don't think having a strong bite force would be beneficial for the cat

@shawnj1966

10 ай бұрын

It doesn't have to be powerful, only efficient! A weak person with a huge knife, can still stab you with it!

@dazaitken1990

10 ай бұрын

@@shawnj1966 yeah that's what my original comment said. Too strong a bite wouldn't be beneficial to the cat as the teeth could break easily

@DavidP1840

2 ай бұрын

Let's call it a draw. 😮

@Dav624

2 ай бұрын

People love assuming long tusks are weak and fragile but have a look at an elephant his teeth are also tusks wich means extended outside the mouth and yet they can puncture other animals anywhere without breaking them of course their teeth aren't fragile they're as strong as modern canines in modern cats the size doesn't make them more fragile as they aren't just longer they're also much thicker than small canines

The largest prehistoric wild cat the SIMILODON would win against the Siberian Tiger Due to its sheer size 💪and bite effectiveness The only thing Siberian tiger has is agility and speed when compared to the SIMILODON 🔥💥🔥

@elamaran.r.p

10 ай бұрын

@@Nickc710 SIMILODON takes the edge in bite effectiveness Siberian Tiger bite force is 1000 psi not 1200 psi

@susman791

10 ай бұрын

Ya saber would win

@ahmedmoataz11

10 ай бұрын

@@Nickc710 The bite force of a siberian tiger is 1200 psi and that's the most it can reach and it's definitely suitable for preying on such modern animals but Smilodon back then used to hunt way bigger animals such as mammoth and wholly rhinos and it used to be way bigger than modern day animals so smilodon had to have way higher bite force than todays modern tigers so it would be obviously way higher than 1200 psi so smilodon clearly wins in terms of bite force and it would definitely kill a siberian tiger if they have to engage in a fight.

@Trillone

10 ай бұрын

Smilodon is a fake creature created by evolutionist

@19megamustaine85

10 ай бұрын

Amphimachairodus giganteus and Panthera atrox are larger look it up !

The Siberian tiger needs only to look at smilodons fangs and cede smilodon the victory. Tigers are not stupid. He will run to live another day. Also, gigantic smilodon populator skulls have been found in south america that dwarf the biggest siberian tiger. No contest.

If the smilodon had normal fangs, then it would win because of it's bigger size and power, but those giant teeth would be a hindrance in a fight.

Thanks

request white rhino vs wooly rhino who is stronger and can win a fight?

@widodoakrom3938

10 ай бұрын

Easily wolly rhino

Smilodon fatalis vs Siberian tiger is a win for the Siberian tiger. However, if the Siberian was matched up against the much bigger South American species, Smilodon populator, it would be a win for the sabre-tooth cat. One mistake that’s in the video is that Smilodon populator weighed a maximum of 280 kg! 280 kg is actually the max weight of the smaller Smilodon fatalis. The much bigger Smilodon populator weighed a maximum of 420-430 kg. Anyway, thank you for a interesting video.

@acosilicon

5 ай бұрын

If it's 420-430kg then it's too much for the tiger to wrestle against. its only recourse is to use its agility and run away. It can't compete against such a huge size advantage since both are apex predators but one is much larger. it's like putting a feather weight boxer against a heavy weight boxer.

smilodon used its immense strength to hold its prey while it used it's teeth were to inflict wounds on the prey so it would bleed to death then it would feed..

I'm going to go with a Split Decision on this one. Just as in today's comparisons between the modern Tiger and the modern Lion, sometimes the Lion would win, and sometimes, the Tiger would win. I believe the same is true here. It always depends on the 2 individual combatants. We have seen videos of Tigers in fights, and we know their tactics and capabilities. However..... we have never seen a Smilodon in action, therefore, we can only assume at how it would fight, and what tactics it would use.

@SHDWPN

10 ай бұрын

Aren’t tigers more powerful in almost every species? And bigger and heavier? Less speed than a lion ofc but I’d be more than willing to eat that a Siberian tiger would win against a Lion.

It's fair to say this fight was more based on theory and hypothesis rather than practicality, mainly because not much is known about the extinct Smilodon. Would we know how fast they are simply by looking at them? or whether their bite force was stronger, simply by guessing so, or whether they were stronger because the prey species in the past were bigger? The only reason they succeeded in hunting those prey was because they worked in hunting groups. This video was more of a what if scenario rather than a definite fact.

I would like to see the fight between a Borneo Orangutan and a Cougar. That would be interesting!

@SHDWPN

10 ай бұрын

I’d say cougar wins. Me Bornean Orangutans are gigantic, heavy, strong, loud, and masters at traversing through the forest. But if a cougar could get close enough for an assault, I’d say there’s little to no chance than an orangutan could escape if it gets attacked. It’s best bet would be to use its size and weight to fend it off before it gets too badly hurt

Smilodon Populator (SP) Vs Siberian Tiger (ST) Strength - SP Mass - SP Bulk - SP Weaponry - Tie Technique - ST Skill - ST A.P - ST D.C - SP Offense - ST Defense - SP Durability - SP Endurance - Tie Stamina - SP Attacking Speed - ST Dodging Speed - ST IQ - ST Battle IQ - ST Experience - SP Results:- SP - 10 ST - 10 Actually, Siberian Tiger defeats Smilodon Populator with high-extreme difficulty.

Man this would be fascinating to see considered we really don't know how a smildon would hunt and it's actually weight mass but would love to see it I would say if they both fought 10 times each would win 5 times

A Smilodon Fatalis or Populator should have had the might to destroy Siberian Tigers or any type of Lion. Despite Siberian Tigers being truly mighty. Smilodons were simply even mightier.

If those weight figures of the smilodon are correct, then he's far and away bigger than the tiger. Tigers only reach that weight in captivity. There was no captivity in the old days. Wild on wild, smilodon was way bigger. If captive vs wild, then the savage smilodon is going up against a complacent cat that lost it's nature.

@susman791

10 ай бұрын

True most tigers are around same size of lions around 350-450

@davidgalvez5341

10 ай бұрын

If I'm remembering correctly, smilodons were heavier, but not quite as large in size.

@ytsux9259

10 ай бұрын

​@@susman791Wrong! Most Siberian tigers are 450-550 lbs.

@susman791

10 ай бұрын

@@ytsux9259 nope 550 is in the heavier end that’s like a specimen Siberian tigers are endangered and are getting less prey and area to go in the past like 1800s sure the average was around 500 ish but now days there starving from habitat loss and less prey and are around 350-450 on average they only get up to 500 in zoos

@Trillone

10 ай бұрын

Tiger is a real animal smilodon is a fake animal *mic drop *

American Lion vs Nandong Tiger please

Smilodon would have broken it’s K9’s under such immense bite force given the anatomy of its K9’s, being long and flat side on, unlike a modern day cat’s. Furthermore, there is some evidence Smilodon could have hunted as a pride, as lions making a kill. Therefore, being more successful.

Smilidon had weak jaws and the long canines broke easily. It’s shoulders and forelimbs were extremely robust. Siberian tiger has stronger jaws, better design, is bigger and faster. It would be a draw, depending on who got the first strike.

@alexeptop

10 ай бұрын

What's ur proof for the weak bite force

@D_megapronz

8 ай бұрын

​@@alexeptopjaw structure?, compared to Tiger skull side to side tiger got much more eobust jaw

@alexeptop

8 ай бұрын

@@D_megapronz the muscle does the job not the bone

@D_megapronz

8 ай бұрын

@@alexeptop where the muscles attached to?, the skull, where the most pressure apply to the victim?, the jaw bone and teeth, where most stress affect to the predator if it bites?, the jaw bone, even if smilodon got strong muscle, if the bone is too fragile it will just break

@cbp117

5 ай бұрын

I mean the fct they had weak jaws are just theories we dont really know for real

Orca vs Elephant Seal needs to be next!

Suggestion who would win - Wolverine vs Canadian Lynx - Fisher vs Wolverine Megalictus vs Dire Wolf

@SHDWPN

10 ай бұрын

I’d say the Wolverine because of its weaponry, and it’s size and weight advantages. A Wolverine would take a fisher and prolly win. And a sure wolf ought to win against a megalictus

How could you possibly know that the smilodon had greater hunting success???

Next video proposition African Elephant vs Deinosuchus

Smilodon relied on its long curved canines and neck, not jaw muscles. Comparatively, Smilodon and Sabertooth cats have much weaker jaws than Panthera cats of today.

Let's have the saltwater crocodile vs the Nile crocodile next.

two awesome and powerful beasts. 😍

First of all, it’s debatable if Siberian tiger is biggest cat. They are similar size with big lions and Bengal tigers.

I’m gonna go with the Siberian Tiger. I think the Smilodon’s excessively large teach would be a problem slowing it down especially against the Siberian tiger

I would have picked the Siberian Tiger before the video. They have powerful swipes too with their claws, I think that might factor into it. Is there any estimation of the Smilodon bite force?

@Yoshikarter1

10 ай бұрын

Tigers can kill cattle and bears with a single swipe. When two tigers fight, they're often wary of paw swipes because they could be killed by one as well.

@dhivaansalig6398

10 ай бұрын

The Smilodon had a relatively weak bite force and their saber teeth were pretty fragile so they could bite through the fleshier parts of their prey, they'd wrestle their prey to the ground and bite its throat or jugular to kill it quickly.

@Darth_Malgus3516

10 ай бұрын

​@@dhivaansalig6398 Smildons teeth could pierce skulls and the thick hide of Woolly Rhinos, they were not fragile at all.

@nathansganga7273

10 ай бұрын

​@@Yoshikarter1the smilodon had strength that puts that of a tiger to shame

@johndoherty487

10 ай бұрын

The Strongest exerted bite force strength a Smilodon Populator could bite with is 150psi. Any more psi of bite down force pressure, and the saberteeth snap.

So simple The similodon would win

It entirely depends on the species of smilodons. The siberian tiger might be able to take down the smaller species of smilodon in a fight but the larger species like the S.populator and S.Fatalis would destroy any modern day bigcat in a fight as they are reasonably stronger, more robust and possess stronger, thicker, denser skeletons than modern day bigcats. Smilidons in general would have a much more damaging bite due to their long sabers, which is much longer and several times bigger than canines of Tigers or lions. Once the Smilodon wrestles down the tiger and physically overpowers it, which is very likely, the Saber toothed cat will inflict serious damage with those fangs and will definitely kill the tiger.

@2freezing

10 ай бұрын

The Siberian tiger is much quicker and agile than the smiledon, but you are right one blow from those teeth can greatly injure the Siberian. However the smiledons teeth can’t handle struggling prey and can only go for the fatal blow.

@rexmagi4606

10 ай бұрын

I'd like to point out it's way harder for a smilodon to actually get its oversized fangs around something as quick as a tiger. Smilodon hunted in open areas and the things they took down weren't nearly as athletic or shifty as tigers.

@ikemo3551

10 ай бұрын

@@rexmagi4606 True, I agree. Tigers are more agile, can manuever their body better and is definitely faster than the smilodon, but the superior strength of the smilidon may be able to compensate for his disadvantages. Not sure if i am correct, but i think they were able to kill large prehistoric bears that were far more formidable than tigers. I did say smilidon, the largest species, takes this fight 9/10.

@2freezing

10 ай бұрын

@@rexmagi4606 exactly

@roseforyoubabe

10 ай бұрын

@@rexmagi4606 smildon hunted even mammroth smildon were ambush predators you know what ambush means right?

🏆Smiled Smilodon 4 da win🏆 As badass as the Siberian Tiger is, I gotta go 4 the Smilodon due to its incredibly long and deadly canines which are more dangerous than the Siberian Tiger's and it's canine teeth are about 2 and a half to 2 inches long

@astra1836

10 ай бұрын

in a real fight a smilodon would stand no chance against a siberian tiger...

@altonkilbourn1595

10 ай бұрын

@@astra1836 shut up

a smilodon's canine teeth can be broken if the bite was at the bone

An african bush elephant against a group consisting of a rhino , a grizzly, a Bengal tiger , an african lion and a hippo.

??? Smilidon Populator were the biggest Sabre-Toothed Cats, they reached weights upto 400 kgs!

I think it would be a close fight between the Siberian Tiger and the Smilodon. In captivity it would be a close fight and it would depend of circumstances. Depending on who’s cage the invader would be crossing, the Siberian Tiger would more than likely be fighting for his life and relying on quick blows with it’s claws and retreating to avoid getting its neck punctured by the smilodon. The Smilodon would win if it was able to grip the tiger by it’s back and bite into it’s neck, while taking the quick blows by the tiger, with its long talon teeth and then again rip into it’s diaphragm area and let it bleed out. It is possible that the tiger would win if it was able to get to the neck of the smilodon and rip into into its torso. It would wound it and be able to kill it. I would also have to add that putting these two animals into a cage together would be very cruel. Out in the wild I think these two animals would avoid each other. Again, tigers aren’t going to kill another animal of equal size unless they know they can win. Unless the tiger were to get ambushed while it’s eating the carcass of the deer by the smilodon. It might put up a fight against it.

Royal Bengal tigers have largest canines in all cats, plus they are much frisky and faster, so they would suit better instead of siberian tigers

What about a smilodon vs Barbary lions

Tiger wrecks shop due to it having incredible durability, agility, and still being alive. I don't see smilodon being able to even use its mouth in this fight because of how unwieldy it is against something as shifty and quick as a tiger. There's a big difference in taking down a herbivore designed for grazing in open areas and a tiger which sneaks through the jungle to kill prey that is significantly smarter and more evolved than the prey smilodon used to hunt. Ive worked hands on with a white Bengal and two Siberian tigers and they are capable of some insane feats of agility and quickness that smilodon just wasn't likely to be capable of.

I thought a wide gap opening, would drastically reduce the biting force, which I have read in other analysis of Smilodon.

A Sabortooth Tiger would go right through a human's organs in one bite and kill them.

Ironically, Smilodon behaved a lot like lions according to Walking with beasts.

It makes sense that smilodon would win the fight due to its strength/bite force, the tyger Although the better apex cat because of its built, speed, agility, which are like athlete skills or incredible athletic attributes, they aren’t the most important things in combat, grit, toughness, durability, tenacity, strength are all more important for fighting then athleticism.

@arjunakorale6166

10 ай бұрын

You make an ENLIGHTENING POINT! Thank you.

@johndoherty487

10 ай бұрын

Smilodon Populator could only bite with 150psi of bite force.

People don't understand that animal evolves. Lions or Tigers are evolved versions of prehistoric cats with all around effective killing tools. This is simply the evolution. Smilodon cats have something missing in them and that is the result for their extinction. Only forearm strength and canine use for puncturing and blood loss will not take you far enough if your preys will also evolve. If you are slow in chasing, you will not be an effective hunter. Siberian tiger's will simply stand in its powerful hind legs and will use quick 2/3 swipes. Razor sharp retractable claws will mess the Sabertooth's face.

Alright this a suggestion to make Bornean tiger vs Kodiak bear please 🐅🐻

@Hisnamegort525

10 ай бұрын

I feel like Bornean might win like 60%of the time maybe.

@susman791

10 ай бұрын

@@Hisnamegort525naw bear has everything on tiger besides from agility and run speed bear would win 70/30

@Hisnamegort525

10 ай бұрын

I agree with you because the bear has sheer strength well the tiger only has speed and agility so yeah 70/30

I don't know...... this is a tough one. However, even though I would love to give it toothed Siberian tiger. I just don't see how it could stand against a prehistoric monster that hunted insanely large prey. One would assume that its skin would be insanely thick to withstand injury from the counterattacks it would have had to defend against while hunting. In just don't see the average tiger winning a battle against these beasts. Its thick muscular structure and skin would negate a lot of the tiger's attacks. And it should be much much larger. Siberian Tigers could probably kill the teenage Smileodons, but definitely not Alpha Smileodons. Otherwise, they'd be extinct, too, because they would have been too formidable for today's environment.

Request: triceratops vs Siberian tiger

@DanielVictor-qw6fh

10 ай бұрын

The triceratops wins. The rhino like dinosaur has a very thick skin .

@SHDWPN

10 ай бұрын

Trike

Who would lose ?? The Homo Sapien caught in the middle. 👍👍👍👍

I think the smildon has a good advantage

You had me until you said "2.5million to 10,000 years ago..."

Smilodon likely only used its fangs to kill. It didn't fight with them. So, when you really look at it, the tiger seems to have much more tools at it's disposal. Longer, sharper claws, heavier yet faster, more agile & flexible, the ability to fight while standing, and the use of it's fangs as weapons. Smilodon may have been stronger and sturdier, sure, but it was yesterday's model for a reason. The tiger is simply more evolved imo.

@captainsimp8864

10 ай бұрын

Yeah it's not tho bruh...

@alexeptop

10 ай бұрын

You obviously know nothing about cats, the only reason a tiger theoretically beats a lion is because of size, same with lions and cheetahs, leopards and house cats

@GJG_3

9 ай бұрын

@@alexeptop Very true the bigger cat will most likely win especially if the weight difference is over 100 lbs. But why did they say 600 lbs for Smilodon. Every website say around 800-900.

@Blackpill149

8 ай бұрын

​@@alexeptopsmilodons could not stand on hind legs to fight and their paws were smaller than tigers.Not to mention those giant tooth are not good for combat as they would be missing bites many times.And they could not jump very high due to less powerfull and small thighs,legs.The tiger wins

@alexeptop

8 ай бұрын

@@Blackpill149 u got no proof of all only skeletons to predict

Shere Khan vs Diego

Smilodon populators were bigger and heavier than Siberian Tigers..

Song name?

Can you make siberian tiger vs cave lion or siberian tiger vs kodiak bear

Smilodon body is like Hyena's.

Smilodon couldn't exceed that number just due to the fact that the 11 inch teeth they had that exceeded most of their jaw flexibility, Smilodon from what they said would usually use those teeth in an ambush to hook on from a dynamic headbutt

evidence shows smilodons may have hunted in packs so that would compensate for any weakness it may have as a single hunter..

The one who made it alive till today.

Smilidon’s teeth were incapable of delivering a bite equivalent to a Siberian Tiger’s bite.

as a kid i woulda thought so too, but not so much now...

You should make a video about an american lion vs African lion

It is amazing and frightening as to the fact early humans and Neanderthals had to deal with these.

One important thing. I don't understand how a Smilodon can make use of those big canines suposedly 10 inches long? To make use of them it had to open the mouth 6-7 inches wider than a tiger. What is this, open ir's mouth at 180°? Something don't adds up here. If so at 180° opening how would the jaw muscles work and how it achived a powerful bite? I see those canines as a hindrance not an asset. Looks great at distance but how was the cat making use of them? Very strange nobody is talking about this

· Analysis of its narrow jaws indicates that it could produce a bite only a third as strong as that of a lion (the bite force quotient measured for the lion is .

On the surface, the two big dagger-like fangs on a smilodon may look impressive but in a fight agility is very important. The tiger is faster and has a stronger bite force. It's not going to give the smilodon the time to sink its fangs into it. It will use its agility to out-maneuver the smilodon and wrestle it down with its own powerful forelegs and go for the kill with its more powerful bite force. Tigers have a unique way of subduing their prey. There's a reason why humans are imitating a tiger's fight style.

I wanted that video. How about: Gorilla vs Komodo Dragon. I am waiting for it

@SHDWPN

10 ай бұрын

A gorilla takes the weight and size and brute strength advantage with the ability to climb up trees. A Komodo wouldn’t be very intimidated because they normally attack large prey. A gorrilla would suffer severe injury from the sharp claws and teeth of a Komodo but might be able to barely beat it to death and bite it. Would definitely die soon to the venom of the Komodo. Lose lose situation

What’s the narrator’s name?? I swear this is HistoryMarche lol

You see smilodon taking down huge prey such as mammoths in fact most prey was bigger during that period of time so it had to be bigger and more powerful too.then you see tigers taking birds and small mammals and up to deer size animals but usually not bigger than that a tiger is a giant powerful cat but I'd think the sabre tooth would win in a straight up fight! 🦁🐯🐅🐆🤷🏻‍♂️

It’s very difficult to say, but I would guess that the Siberian Tiger would likely win in that it’s canine teeth are designed better for fighting.

I think those weight statistics were not of Smilodon Populator. Smilodon Populator was heavier, weighting around 800 pounds.. Smilodon also had weak bite force...

How about Mandrill vs Brown Hyena?

Pretty accurate. The smilodon should win more times. A Siberian tiger has a chance, but not as much as a smilodon.

@Trillone

10 ай бұрын

Fake

The Sabertooth like the lions today probably never went after the adult males of various species like the Mammoth. Like all big cats none of them are immortal and a ton of things can kill them too. For every predator since life began there was always another animal that can beat them even if the chances were slim. Also, most predators aren’t completely stupid meaning they usually won’t pick a fight with big animal that has a chance of killing them.

The Siberian tiger has stronger jaws and can fight better upclose, less risk of its canines breaking. The smilodon populator being a better grappler can finish off the tiger with a skull bite if it can control the fight with its forearms.

Wonder what tigers looked like 1000s of years ago

@SHDWPN

10 ай бұрын

Same. Hundreds of millions would make the big difference you’re looking for