Showing The Mormon Church NO MERCY w/ John Dehlin & Carah Burrell

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On today's episode, me and John Dehlin ‪@mormonstories‬ tackle our top reasons Mormonism falls on its face. No messing around, no games, just one: Jenga. We heard you like metaphors so we got you 54 of them delicately stacked, then SACKED. You'll have to watch and see who wins! (Rationality) And who goes home the loser! (Anyone who can't finish this video masterpiece)
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  • @CarahBurrell
    @CarahBurrell2 ай бұрын

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  • @germanslice

    @germanslice

    2 ай бұрын

    Some of You don't seem to realize that the Lord speaks from out of Zion in the last days. You must get rid of that accusatory spirit because its not from God.

  • @kellyreilly-robinson2130

    @kellyreilly-robinson2130

    2 ай бұрын

    @@germansliceyikes baby go away you can't be helped here😘

  • @germanslice

    @germanslice

    2 ай бұрын

    @@kellyreilly-robinson2130 Helped? Oh Sure, I got off the Telestial Level in time to prepare for the coming shift which will be starting soon.

  • @GODISMYSTERIOUS

    @GODISMYSTERIOUS

    2 ай бұрын

    No. I would rather join Fun For Less Tours and I am not a Mormon.

  • @thefarmerandthedale5894

    @thefarmerandthedale5894

    Ай бұрын

    Lol

  • @aspenEarthmover
    @aspenEarthmover2 ай бұрын

    I love it when john makes an absolute bombshell statement that blows away all my years of conceptualizing mormonism and being raised in it and then just ends it off with “was that ok?” “I dunno what im saying im just making this up as we go” 😂

  • @mormonstories

    @mormonstories

    2 ай бұрын

    @aspenEarthmover - What did I say?!??

  • @foxtrottaa

    @foxtrottaa

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@mormonstories😂😂

  • @LauraOttawa
    @LauraOttawa2 ай бұрын

    The way that Mormons aren't allowed to talk about what happens in the temple reminds me of how scientologists aren't allowed to talk about OT3

  • @jusapoet72

    @jusapoet72

    2 ай бұрын

    Except Scientology won't give you any tours of any Holy place without never allowing you to EVER leave. Lol. Thank goodness people can leave the LDS Church and not get gang stalked.

  • @shelleyhowell86

    @shelleyhowell86

    2 ай бұрын

    @@jusapoet72 I don't know about that. I gagged it up when I was a teenager a long time ago, and they still show up at my door all the time.

  • @Mk101T

    @Mk101T

    2 ай бұрын

    @@jusapoet72 LOL Gang Stalked ?!? Is that besides online ?

  • @jacoblewis2961

    @jacoblewis2961

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@jusapoet72 except they do gang stalk. I just want to be left alone. I have many texts from the Elders Qurom president wondering why im inactive and when can they come over a meet with me and my family....

  • @totallyjackedup6047

    @totallyjackedup6047

    2 ай бұрын

    Take a look at the second anointing. Total cult behavior - hidden from regular members and only available to the elites.

  • @PARebecca
    @PARebecca2 ай бұрын

    You did not show the Corporate Church any mercy and for that I thank you both.

  • @Themanyfacesofego
    @Themanyfacesofego2 ай бұрын

    John looks quite youthful today.

  • @knitsandlit4886

    @knitsandlit4886

    2 ай бұрын

    It’s dem ankles

  • @deliberateindifferencewi

    @deliberateindifferencewi

    2 ай бұрын

    It’s like when you shave your head or wear contacts. Everyone is used to seeing the top 2/7s of John.

  • @mxnjones

    @mxnjones

    2 ай бұрын

    I miss his beard, tbh.

  • @tennillepatterson5500

    @tennillepatterson5500

    2 ай бұрын

    Great lighting!

  • @laurenmay2098

    @laurenmay2098

    2 ай бұрын

    I love his voice. I think it is the first time I see his body, lol. Usually, it is only half of his body with a sweater. I like him without beard. He looks younger.

  • @ttthecat
    @ttthecat2 ай бұрын

    The fact that Jim Henson helped free him from a cult and helped him deconstruct the indoctrination is just so amazing!🧡

  • @kennethd.9436

    @kennethd.9436

    2 ай бұрын

    Jim Henson makes some amazing movies. I also enjoy the “Am I a man or a muppet” song and think it’s a good metaphor for independent thought.

  • @aspenEarthmover
    @aspenEarthmover2 ай бұрын

    when nuancehoe said “do you want to start us off with” I thought she was going to say opening prayer 😂

  • @cubmomliz

    @cubmomliz

    2 ай бұрын

    I did too. 😅

  • @Geoplanetjane

    @Geoplanetjane

    2 ай бұрын

    Not hardly

  • @rozannmoake8146

    @rozannmoake8146

    2 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂 that would have been hilarious!

  • @jordanjones9645
    @jordanjones96452 ай бұрын

    My family is pretty devout in their Christian faith and I remember telling my Aunt that by leaving the church I was forfeiting my eternal marriage and she stopped me and asked "What's eternal marriage?" After I explained it to her she said "Sounds like you're in a cult". This was the first time I realized the temple marriage was only being used as a bargaining chip to keep its members in the faith. For context, my grandparents had just passed away and they were not LDS but were very devout in their faith. NO ONE was questioning if they were together in the after life. You don't need Mormonism to hold this belief.

  • @Coalition4NewerVision

    @Coalition4NewerVision

    2 ай бұрын

    You mean you didn’t wanna tell your family that the lds church is pro family by making sure only .001% of humans who go thru their doors and pay 10% of their money can be together forever ?

  • @user-bw3fl7fj9w

    @user-bw3fl7fj9w

    2 ай бұрын

    😮Yes, and the push that you're to date to marry in the Temple, even though you are over 30 when baptized, live in an area where Mormons are few....long story short...I never married and had children.... I'm so upset, now that I'm questioning the church...I realize now I should have listened to my Catholic mother who said date a good man.... ugh.😢

  • @unicorntamer2207

    @unicorntamer2207

    2 ай бұрын

    I left for a similar reason. Sitting in singles ward, I realized how the promise of "family together forever" is only going to be given to a fraction of a percent of humans, and I realized how awful the temple makes Heavenly Father out to be. Yes. If God can see what's in our hearts, there's no need for a temple works and ordinances checklist to figure out who gets to spend eternity with who. That's not a loving, caring, personal Heavenly Father type of God.

  • @dean4670

    @dean4670

    Ай бұрын

    For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. Matthew 22:30

  • @CaptPeon

    @CaptPeon

    19 күн бұрын

    I'd also add that the consequences of "families can be together forever" is that my family FREAKED out when I left the church and spent YEARS begging, insisting, and guilting me to come back to the church so that we could "be together forever". That shaming is traumatic for the leaver AND causes untold anxiety and sorrow for the believers where they mourn the death of your eternal soul.

  • @ConnyWithA_Y
    @ConnyWithA_Y2 ай бұрын

    Thank you for talking about the death oaths we made in the temple that so many active members don't even know about...I can't tell you how much psychic energy and pain I have given to questioning myself of how I could have not so much been duped, but how could I have allowed Me to make those oaths?? If nobody else was willing to protect me, why didn't I protect me? Still beating myself up occasionally over that, and then continuing on in it and raising my beautiful children in it. Why, why, why...? Thank you John Dehlin for speaking so truthfully in a not mean way, you are a superman to me

  • @redhatbear1135

    @redhatbear1135

    2 ай бұрын

    Congratulation on your growth, so sorry it was abusive.

  • @Msfifisquarepantz

    @Msfifisquarepantz

    Ай бұрын

    Superman wore socks. And pease, seek some help. I wish you well

  • @musketeerflyer
    @musketeerflyer2 ай бұрын

    As a non-Mormon I first learned about the Mormon temple ritual of signing with the hands to symbolize slitting the throat and stomach when I read the book "The God Makers" in the mid 1980s. I mentioned this some time later in a conversation with a fellow Air Force Officer who was a Mormon and he said "That is an outright lie!". Well, it turns out after the world was informed of the ritual through the book "The God Makers" ,and the movie by the same name, the Mormon Church removed those rituals so that they could say "we don't do that" . Of course, they never mentioned that they used to do that! It wasn't until I started watching Mormon Stories that I learned the facts about the removal of these Masonic rituals from the temple ceremony.

  • @anniehasting1133

    @anniehasting1133

    17 күн бұрын

    I was a Mormon. At the time I first went through the temple, the penalties had already been removed from the ceremony. Since we’re not told about the changes in the ceremony (we never talk about the temple, even in our families), I would have absolutely said, “That’s not true!” Because I didn’t know that it was that way before my first exposure to the ceremony. The secrecy around the temple is tenacious, and it’s very possible that as a non-Mormon you know more about the history of the ceremony than a Mormon does. Because also we are taught as Mormons not to view even a little bit of anti-Mormon content. Get all your knowledge directly from the Mormon church.

  • @musketeerflyer

    @musketeerflyer

    17 күн бұрын

    @@anniehasting1133 It's all about control. The Jehovah's Witnesses are the same, they call it "Apostate Literature" which is totally forbidden to read. When I showed a JW at my door a photocopy of one of their incriminating documents he told me it was faked because they are told if they encounter any anti-JW propaganda that it is all manufactured and from Satan.

  • @tracivonkaenel3684
    @tracivonkaenel36842 ай бұрын

    Almost Mormon here…. Seriously investigated joining. Did all the missionary classes. Then the Cult mom and Chad case hit the news. I started following that case which led me to this channel. I thought the LSD church was just another Christian church but clearly it’s extra….. thus I didn’t join.

  • @PennelopeWhitmore

    @PennelopeWhitmore

    2 ай бұрын

    If you want a true Bible preaching church I would try a non-denominational one. You want someone that preached from the Bible. J found an absolutely amazing pastor here on KZread named Allen Nolan. If you want to understand the Bible and end times ,listen to his playlists. He can make mud sound interesting too.

  • @raincoathaveli

    @raincoathaveli

    2 ай бұрын

    Tbh, many elements of mormonism that are problematic are the same in all Christianity.

  • @marelinem541

    @marelinem541

    Ай бұрын

    You really dodged a bullet there ... (and 100 times more so if you are female). You may have literally saved the lives of your children (or future children), with that one decision to walk away from the mormon church.

  • @DianaMontoya-uv6sq
    @DianaMontoya-uv6sq2 ай бұрын

    I've finally caught up with you all in the present, after many months chasing old episodes! You both look vibrant and healthy, thank God! Much appreciation for everything you do! I left the church fifty years ago, and I'm.still deconstructing!

  • @joycenotine283

    @joycenotine283

    2 ай бұрын

    Left the Catholic Church 50 years ago, as well and still recovering too. Most difficult/damaging for me was the teachings on sex/women.

  • @j.blanzy
    @j.blanzy2 ай бұрын

    Instead of the “broken shelf” it could the falling Jenga Tower

  • @VioletPeony1888

    @VioletPeony1888

    2 ай бұрын

    this is accurate

  • @tinamarie9772
    @tinamarie97722 ай бұрын

    It's amazing how little LDS members truly know about their own church. Between Kara, John and the other ex-mormon channels, I've learned more than I ever did sitting in 3 hours of church a week. And I'm very glad my children don't have to be fed all the lies and fabricated history. They'd rock the boat anyway...I've taught them to be free thinkers and seek knowledge for themselves.

  • @Robbie-sk6vc

    @Robbie-sk6vc

    2 ай бұрын

    Your taught to not look up information from other-than-church sources! That's why most members don't know much about the cult. They only know what the cult wants them to know! That's how they keep membership (and control) of the faithful.

  • @TheWanderingHeretic
    @TheWanderingHeretic2 ай бұрын

    I recommend watching this at least until close to the end when the Jenga tower falls, even though John is sitting there trying to hold it together (which one doesn't do while playing Jenga normally), then he gives up and brushes the rest of the rubble off the table. What a metaphor for a faith transition LOL.

  • @SilentThundersnow
    @SilentThundersnow2 ай бұрын

    Best episode ever! Getting to hear John Dehlin cover all these important topics in one show where he can talk and not hold back is epic! John always blows me away. I arrived at so many of his same conclusions, after agonizing over the scriptures, praying, scrupulosity and unraveling the programming, with years of tears. I looked at it, for over a decade. I finally came to understand and see exactly what John put so eloquently into words. This is not a God that holds himself to the love he claims it is all about. Then studying church history and discovering the lies of 'the prophets,' finally freed me from it's oppressive control. John is my hero, he does so much good by giving people a way to tell their story, a way use logic and reason, and tons of much needed validation! Cara is able to put hard truths together into words with amazing talent that most people can't do. She cuts to the core of the issue, and reveals what's inside every topic. I love your channel and the guests you have on, revealing truth! Carry on! Cara on! 😁 The Abraham papyrus was the final end for me as well. Well done John and Cara! Thank you!!

  • @DirtmopAZ
    @DirtmopAZ2 ай бұрын

    “Does god use his sphincter?” -John Dehlin 2024

  • @KK-rc5ds
    @KK-rc5ds2 ай бұрын

    About 12 years old, looking up in the redwoods at a youth camp, I suddenly realized it was false and I had no feeling/connection/love in those settings. Just some shame, abuse, and little of loving thy neighbor. I’m 62 and haven’t looked back. Culturally, it was tough to be non-bible believer. Great content on this channel!

  • @firecloud77

    @firecloud77

    2 күн бұрын

    You subscribe to atheism now?

  • @colt_schneid
    @colt_schneid2 ай бұрын

    One of my absolute favorite collaborations between the two of you. Love the Jenga method. Love the conversation vibe. Love your energy. Love your relationship. Love the way the two of you work together in this format!

  • @CarahBurrell

    @CarahBurrell

    2 ай бұрын

    Awesome! Thank you!

  • @martinaodell2866
    @martinaodell28662 ай бұрын

    Baptist here. My bestie joined, moved to Utah, (Utah Mormons were a different breed) left the church and moved back a year later.

  • @TheTfroggy912
    @TheTfroggy912Ай бұрын

    I’m so used to seeing John at the podcast desk. All this ankle is throwing me off 😂

  • @karenfazlurrehman2691
    @karenfazlurrehman26912 ай бұрын

    I vividly remember as a 5 year old very personable and all believing child while visiting my grandparents in Southern Utah, going to Sunday School and learning about the “mark of Cain”. It felt so wrong at such a young age and it still bothers me at the age of 68 how horrible that statement and memory is. I’m grateful I saw the light and was able to leave the church at a relatively young age. Love this podcast John and Cara. Keep up the great work to enlighten people.

  • @lorrainedewaal3838

    @lorrainedewaal3838

    2 ай бұрын

    You were so blessed to know at a young age. I was 54 and a recent widow and I’ve not looked back but good for you. You saved yourself a ton of stress heartache and further indoctrination

  • @PennelopeWhitmore

    @PennelopeWhitmore

    2 ай бұрын

    What do Mormons believe? I'm non-denominational and we were taught it was a born given to him by GOD so no one kills him. When I was a kid we had the rapture and I thought I was gonna wake up some day and my parents and brothers would be gone. It scared me so bad I had insomnia for a long time and still do sometimes.

  • @sweetgrassviews5841
    @sweetgrassviews58412 ай бұрын

    I love this John!!!! Lately he has been on fire and not holding back and I love it. It’s time to stop trying to beat around the bush and call a spade a spade! Fantastic episode guys!

  • @CarahBurrell

    @CarahBurrell

    2 ай бұрын

    hellz yess

  • @dylanslaugh3250
    @dylanslaugh32502 ай бұрын

    I remember in seminary, the most distressful lesson we ever had was when we were learning about the thee days of darkness in the Book of Mormon. We came in to a room with all the windows covered with paper so no light could get in and was played a track in that darkness of lightning and earthquakes splicing up the main sound on the track which was literally babies crying until Jesus’s voice was heard talking about how we made it for being righteous. Every one of my friends I talked to talked about how incredibly spiritual it was. I was the only one (at least openly) who found it disturbing and did not feel the spirit.

  • @jdhd801
    @jdhd8012 ай бұрын

    So well said! Carah is better than any modern day prophet. FOLLOW THE CARAH!

  • @sdonthefly

    @sdonthefly

    2 ай бұрын

    She knows the way!

  • @mvfusion

    @mvfusion

    2 ай бұрын

    She’s not a prophet! She’s a very naughty girl!

  • @rozannmoake8146

    @rozannmoake8146

    2 ай бұрын

    👍🏻 At least she tries to tell the truth! Doesn’t try to manipulate.

  • @andrewlee6886
    @andrewlee68862 ай бұрын

    This was great. Always good to refresh my ammo so I’ll be ready at anytime if a TBM wants to tango 🤣

  • @MrBlasz
    @MrBlasz2 ай бұрын

    Man making calling is something that broke me when I was in a bishopric. It was just the three of us trying to fill callings with what we knew about people. Often being shot down because the bishop knew stuff.

  • @liv-bv3pl
    @liv-bv3pl2 ай бұрын

    1:36:25 Little jewish correction here- not sure if i misunderstood John but just for the record, Jews do not believe that there is anyone who is the mouthpiece of God or who is in conversation with God right now, and that there hasn’t been since the time of the Torah. Jews also do not believe that Moses was white. Love yall ❤

  • @zzwest7230

    @zzwest7230

    2 ай бұрын

    What about the moshiac Shmeerson

  • @TP-om8of

    @TP-om8of

    2 ай бұрын

    Dehlin doesn’t know a lot about religion outside Mormonism; frequently gets things wrong.

  • @davidmilot8656
    @davidmilot86562 ай бұрын

    This was amazing!! I really enjoyed feeling the energy and passion from both of you throughout the episode!! Well done, though good and faithful servants!!

  • @HeidiSue60
    @HeidiSue602 ай бұрын

    My son asked a counselor one time “Does god have a penis?” The counselor thought this was a sure sign that he was some kind of pervert, when all he was doing was trying to get the counselor’s goat by talking about Mormon god’s physical body. It’s a valid question and it made me laugh

  • @nathanjeriwalker2858
    @nathanjeriwalker28582 ай бұрын

    "Thank you very much, Mormon Prophets, Seers and Revelators, we can do without your noise." Well Said!

  • @laurie6049
    @laurie60492 ай бұрын

    I got married at 17. The best guy ever! The temple? A waste of time!

  • @darlenelane9010

    @darlenelane9010

    2 ай бұрын

    Good for you!!!

  • @hihellomichelle
    @hihellomichelle2 ай бұрын

    I love seeing John get ANIMATED!!! This felt like him letting loose! I found your channel from Mormon Stories and so happy you two sat down for this. More of this please!!!

  • @RioFubeca
    @RioFubeca2 ай бұрын

    I like this format with the graphics on the screen and the laid in clips, reminds me of Pop Up Video!!

  • @Aveysaur
    @Aveysaur2 ай бұрын

    smith got the rock from a witch?? 🤣 that's amazing i love It

  • @celticgabbyfan
    @celticgabbyfan2 ай бұрын

    I'm a recovering Catholic and my parents met and married due to a cult.. so this stuff is very interesting and adjacent to my journey.. from uber religiosity searching in my teens.. to early momma hood wanting my kids to have the safety and comfort of faith to divorce from a man who really is a woman and now is doing their own reconstruction of sorts; to now second marriage for me to an agnostic and now at almost 50 I am questioning everything.. nothing in churches passes the mothers love test for me.. which means, If a faith/church can't show and act like a loving parent ALL of the time.. it does not pass. and omg.. none of them pass. NONE. it doesn't fit. God is supposed to be fully all powerful and loving.. so here I sit.. spinning faith falling down the drain.. its world altering.. shaking me to my core tbh

  • @HardNigga-tr4uy

    @HardNigga-tr4uy

    2 ай бұрын

    Well that is a “test” that you made up arbitrarily so I wouldn’t put too much stock in it if I were you

  • @JohnDoe-yh3oh

    @JohnDoe-yh3oh

    2 ай бұрын

    Why do you need Church to praise God? Let the physical buildings go and just enjoy being saved through Christ and let God's grace wash over you, you deserve it

  • @maryarnez3730

    @maryarnez3730

    2 ай бұрын

    Prayers for you…..keep seeking the true Jesus….He will always be ther with open arms!! From a mom of 5 who gets it! I don’t rely on the “perfect” church but I do attend and serve and grow in my faith reading the Bible! Keep seeking Him! ❤️🙏🏽❤️. He loves you with unconditional love!

  • @connieash1110
    @connieash11102 ай бұрын

    I have thought about a lot of what John said over the years and just wasn't able to let it flow. Thanks John for BRINGING IT!

  • @scrambledegg347
    @scrambledegg3472 ай бұрын

    Absolutely love this episode! Need to do this again.

  • @user-bw3fl7fj9w
    @user-bw3fl7fj9w2 ай бұрын

    When John was talking about the Temple....i had the same thoughts, when i first went.. I also thought... God wouldn't have things for us to do that feel weird.....

  • @karmiahamilton7222
    @karmiahamilton72222 ай бұрын

    Two very intelligent and eloquent people.

  • @Cosmically_Forsaken
    @Cosmically_Forsaken2 ай бұрын

    This was the slowest and most entertaining game of Jenga I’ve ever watched 😂 I love it

  • @ksmill09
    @ksmill092 ай бұрын

    I’m never Mormon, but I love ur shows.I’m Christian, Southern Baptist

  • @mormonskeptic6836
    @mormonskeptic68362 ай бұрын

    50:23 the rock in a hat method used to be characterized as anti-Mormon propaganda. Now Nelson gaslights members with “Oh yeah. It’s always been this way.”

  • @kimsteinke713
    @kimsteinke7132 ай бұрын

    Thank you John You been here for the longest helping and we're making huge strides everywhere and all the religions thank you John.

  • @debmecca
    @debmecca10 сағат бұрын

    Am I Mormon? No. Have I ever been Mormon? No. Have I been watching you and John together and separately for years, yes. So. Nice to see you back together for this episode.

  • @natethefighter
    @natethefighter2 ай бұрын

    "I've thought of you and Tay-Tay as indistinguishable." "Thank you, I've always wanted you to say that" 😂😂😂

  • @songbird1307
    @songbird13072 ай бұрын

    Mormon missionaries told me that my previous baptism "didn't count". My husband was raised Mormon but I was not. He is not currently active in the Church but still believes it to be the true church. I was baptized on Easter Sunday at age 14 by my step-grandfather (aka Grandpa) who was a retired Southern Baptist preacher. I was raised in a very dysfunctional & abusive home by alcoholics. I never attended church until my new Grandpa saw my situation then began taking me. He lovingly picked me up every Sunday morning starting at age 12 w/ donuts in hand so that I would have breakfast. He & I would go to the church service & Sunday School together & then out to lunch. (Mostly to Blackeyed Peas restaurant b/c Grandpa loved their sugar snap peas & black eyed peas.) Just the two of us. After this I would go back to he & my step-grandmother's home where I napped on the couch while he watched football. I felt so safe. (The sound of football still makes me sleepy sometimes.) Grandpa had both Parkinson's & a heart condition but was still faithful on Sundays. When I was 15 or 16 his Parkinson's got too bad for him to drive so he let me drive us to church in his car. Such a gentle & loving man. I can't imagine going through life w/out all these Sundays taught me & nourished me. Sundays w/ Grandpa were very, very special. I wish I had more of them. Once Mormon missionaries learned that my husband was a member per se they were always coming by our home. I found it so hurtful when they said that my baptism by a very godly man on Easter Sunday "didn't count" b/c my Grandpa didn't have the priesthood authority. I felt God's presence during that baptism so for me, it counted.

  • @merricat3025

    @merricat3025

    Ай бұрын

    Yours definitely counted more than theirs ever would IMO. LDS is a cult

  • @songbird1307

    @songbird1307

    Ай бұрын

    @@merricat3025 😊

  • @wow561
    @wow5612 ай бұрын

    I LOVE this more relaxed setting for you both, I think it suits you well! Keep up the good work!

  • @jogsingumboots
    @jogsingumboots2 ай бұрын

    I'm deconstructing evangelical Christianity. This was really helpful even though I've never been LDS.Thanks Carah and John!

  • @caoliveira7649
    @caoliveira7649Ай бұрын

    The “personal revelation” talk was great. Never tought about it.

  • @jamesrexsannatracy8318
    @jamesrexsannatracy83182 ай бұрын

    Without the theft and fairytale thinking of these priesthoods they don’t have a cult

  • @bagelb
    @bagelb2 ай бұрын

    Something about personal revelation they didn't touch on was the gaslighting effect of whether or not you get the personal revelation you are "supposed to" get. For example, if you don't get an answer at all or get an answer that's contrary to what the church has deemed the response that makes them right/true, then "you are the problem"; there's something wrong with you. The church can move the goal post all they want with truth claims, etc. but there's no room for the actual members to feel things that don't align. The other thing that is related to that is the fact that they say you have personal revelation, but they also say that "surely the lord god will do nothing save he revealeth his secrets to his servants the prophets". Which one is it? Who does god communicate with and give revelation to again? Individuals, or prophets?

  • @Lovecatholicfaith
    @Lovecatholicfaith2 ай бұрын

    Jonh! I love you! It’s nice to see you supporting people like a father for them. Xoxo from Layton.

  • @ryansteed1192
    @ryansteed11922 ай бұрын

    I had John's same exact experience when I watched Disney's The Muppets (2011). I remember thinking at the time "that's really too bad that this kids movie gave me just as strong of a feeling (hair raising, goosebumps, a rush of energy through my spine) as my spiritual witness of the Book of Mormon."

  • @littlesecret1961
    @littlesecret19612 ай бұрын

    This is the first time watching your show and I think it’s great that you are having so much success. It’s wonderful that there is someone like you who is bubbly, playful and presents a little less serious who will attract younger people/families. It’s obvious you are knowledgeable about the church and I enjoy listening to you share your knowledge. Were you angry when you found out the church was based on nothing but lies? Did you go out and do all of the things you had been forbidden to do? I left the church years ago and am so grateful I have access to programs like you and John provide.

  • @rytheguy6914
    @rytheguy69142 ай бұрын

    John looks like his name could be Kyle and he says bro a lot 😂 Good discussion by both of you.

  • @bodytrainer1crane730

    @bodytrainer1crane730

    2 ай бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣

  • @strega_in_vegas
    @strega_in_vegasАй бұрын

    Quite possibly my favorite KZread episode ever. You both are amazing.

  • @rochyroach
    @rochyroach2 ай бұрын

    Dang, this was one helluvan episode.

  • @tyleri.4219
    @tyleri.42192 ай бұрын

    Poor = crazy… we’re bringing the Mormon back with this promo, John, haha

  • @nicholaswhitman4620
    @nicholaswhitman4620Ай бұрын

    You can see how proud John is of her in every shot.

  • @dionclark6581
    @dionclark65812 ай бұрын

    Dehlin is on fire, hits all the high points....good rant John!!!! GO CARAH....

  • @Nowaybozay
    @Nowaybozay2 ай бұрын

    I love your content! I have never been Mormon but knew many Mormon’s while in the military community. I could never wrap my head around their faith and I thought maybe I was the problem. The information you, Mormon Stories, etc provide have clarified how my confusion and disbelief were justified lol

  • @jamesrexsannatracy8318
    @jamesrexsannatracy83182 ай бұрын

    Thank you guys for speaking truth. It’s something that I have yet to find speaking with mormons

  • @Jonna_Sweden
    @Jonna_Sweden2 ай бұрын

    I’m what he said at 5:35 and “investigate the Church” after I had two well dressed and well behaved young men knocking on my door earlier this week. I am a Christian and Swedish and Mormons are rare here, but I liked the missionaries and, yeah.. here I am.

  • @chloecagle6493
    @chloecagle64932 ай бұрын

    I love when y’all say something unhinged in the dryest, most serious tone possible 🤣

  • @porkyrabbit
    @porkyrabbit2 ай бұрын

    Love when you and John collab!!

  • @Ilovesactown
    @IlovesactownАй бұрын

    Atheist here who likes learning about what motivates people to understand that faith is not the way to truth.

  • @ogFIEND

    @ogFIEND

    Ай бұрын

    Same, just stumbled upon her channel via algorithm and it’s very interesting to listen to.

  • @psilocybebae7106
    @psilocybebae71062 ай бұрын

    Your speaking words from my own mind and soul and couldn't have agreed more with everything said on the pod today. Love you both. If anything you are speaking revelations from "God" the real truth and are bringing the light to the dark corners that aren't discussed ❤😅

  • @saraht3196
    @saraht31962 ай бұрын

    i wish i could go back to greece with y'all 😭 unfortunately since i've been living in the eu, i have to leave the schengen area for a full 180 days after i go home in july. otherwise, i would so be considering it! sounds like so much fun!

  • @goingbananas581
    @goingbananas5812 ай бұрын

    My husband works for Dr. Parkinson! Haha, that's so funny to hear he is the one who told John about the Book of Abraham. Love it!

  • @Cultural_Hall
    @Cultural_Hall2 ай бұрын

    Carah, your end screen is DOPE 👊🏻

  • @CarahBurrell

    @CarahBurrell

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks. I enjoy working on all the things :)

  • @SatansRoerhat
    @SatansRoerhat2 ай бұрын

    Love the genuine, heartfelt energy between the two of you 🌻🌼💖

  • @zachlightcap2179
    @zachlightcap21792 ай бұрын

    😂😂... The South Park episode where the followers threatened to drown themselves the reflection pool unless they can get tax exam status ...

  • @lebethany53
    @lebethany532 ай бұрын

    “At least he told them to boil their water. No wait, that was science.” Literally made the most ungodly cackle 😂😂😂

  • @jeannettezinai3213
    @jeannettezinai32132 ай бұрын

    Can not Thank you enough for your approach and understanding. I am Catholic who has mormon friend and can't seem to understand them. I respect but No I won't believe ever what they say or believe. I listen to learn from thoes who were once Mormon. Thanks for your truth. God bless you and keep conversation going.

  • @jimforman3754
    @jimforman37542 ай бұрын

    I like a new name for this cult. The Corporation of Latter Days Saints.

  • @dalehawley5836
    @dalehawley58362 ай бұрын

    Carah is so cool and smart, I’m a bit intimidated but I can’t stop listening and trying to learn!!

  • @andreatimmers1720
    @andreatimmers17202 ай бұрын

    This was EPIC!!

  • @whitajeman
    @whitajeman2 ай бұрын

    My shelf was breaking in highschool while my parents were secretly working through my Dad having an affair and being excommunicated. I was the only one of my siblings who knew. In church one day I realized kind of like John that all the times I thought I felt the "spirit" that I was just feeling love. And I had those same spiritual experiences in my every day life and still do now that I left the church again. Left after highschool. Came back after my divorce. And left again. But I still feel that love every day!

  • @michelle5784
    @michelle57842 ай бұрын

    You can only talk about the temple IN the temple. But only in the celestial room of the temple because it's so sacred. But you should also not talk too loud or too much in the celestial room because that's not reverent. You also shouldn't hang out in the celestial room too long... so basically, just don't talk about it. I loved this summary! Thank you, Carah and John!

  • @bodytrainer1crane730
    @bodytrainer1crane7302 ай бұрын

    "God" bless John Dehlin. His honesty is so REFRESHING!!!

  • @rodneyjamesmcguire
    @rodneyjamesmcguire2 ай бұрын

    Taking suggestions?

  • @DeanneSanchez
    @DeanneSanchez2 ай бұрын

    Love the podcast 😊😊😊

  • @hanako4475
    @hanako44752 ай бұрын

    This is the crossover I've been waiting for! John on YOUR show!!! I'm obsessed (in the most healthy, respectful way) with both of you!!! 💙💙💙

  • @DeadParrot-yj8fn
    @DeadParrot-yj8fn2 ай бұрын

    It’s all about obedience to the leaders. They use shame, fear and eternal life to control the flock while the leaders live the high life. It’s a massive con.

  • @gregoryturnbow4841
    @gregoryturnbow48412 ай бұрын

    What was written on the brass plates if nephi recovered them. He just needed brass plates or was there something written on them? He killed Laban for blank plates?

  • @Zelph_undying

    @Zelph_undying

    2 ай бұрын

    Allegedly the first five books of the OT, aka the Pentateuch which is anachronistic bc that wasn't compiled until after the Babylonian Exile which should have just started at the time Lehi and his family allegedly left Jerusalem. Also the idea that his family had any riches to offer for trade is kinda odd considering that Jerusalem had just been sacked.

  • @harperr2180
    @harperr21802 ай бұрын

    John you need better lighting in your studio. You look 10 years younger on Carrah's channel.

  • @CarahBurrell

    @CarahBurrell

    2 ай бұрын

    Hahahaha

  • @heathermayfield4247

    @heathermayfield4247

    2 ай бұрын

    I was about to say the same thing!

  • @jjhathaway7809
    @jjhathaway78092 ай бұрын

    OMH... @ 50:00 as you looked into the hat, it seemed pretty obvious how he "transcribed" the plates w/o them being there... by having a page or two of various scripture stuck down in the hat he could plagiarize, w/ the rock being an excuse to reach into the hat to "adjust" it, allowing him to "Turn The Page" 🎶( me singing like you would )🎶LOL.. great song & episode

  • @tinamb5178
    @tinamb51782 ай бұрын

    Re: Emotions in movies (etc) at about 39:00, I've long felt that music does that for people, and it's why music is and has been so powerful in religious ceremonies. Is it the Holy Spirit? Or is it human response to music and other arts?

  • @trembletea
    @trembletea2 ай бұрын

    I love Mormon Stories and John’s approach on that channel, but man, i also love this John who is taking no prisoners!! His summary of Christianity around the middle of the video is 🔥

  • @jamybailey
    @jamybailey2 ай бұрын

    Question. Exmo for 2 years now and just had this thought. Did the masons ever sue the church for stealing the temple stuff?

  • @martimorris6489
    @martimorris64892 ай бұрын

    How fun to see John on YOUR turf!!!!

  • @ronagracebatt
    @ronagracebatt2 күн бұрын

    Thank you for revealing all these things that the LDS church tries to hide under the banner of "sacredness" and using Jesus Christ as a brand name. I have left the LDS church a long time ago and have found so much joy, rest, security, and FREEDOM in the Biblical Jesus Christ. I am now attending an evangelical born again Christian church and it is the best decision I have ever made in my entire life! Thank you for the good work you both do for society, John Dehlin and Carah Burnell! You have no idea how much amazing impact you guys are making

  • @33snowgal
    @33snowgal2 ай бұрын

    A never mo here that fell into morman stories through the youtube algorithm and branched off here.

  • @aminaadamu9342

    @aminaadamu9342

    2 ай бұрын

    Me too. 😂 Came across Alyssa Grenfell through the algorithm, then Mormon stories and now so many other ex mormon channels. I even bought Alyssa's book. It's brilliant. Read it cover to cover, and I don't have a religion.

  • @aprilshowers21
    @aprilshowers212 ай бұрын

    Loved this collab! The topic? YES… But just getting to witness John and Carah’s brilliant minds and wit go at it on screen, is just fun and always enlightening. Thanks guys! I hope this video travels far and wide. Excellent informative piece👌🏻💖

  • @CarahBurrell

    @CarahBurrell

    2 ай бұрын

    Awwww stahppp 📢🥰

  • @shanmarielewis330
    @shanmarielewis3302 ай бұрын

    As a Christian, I always love when people portray Jesus as a white man... 🙄🤨 Yet he was from the Middle East... Totally adds up. 🙄

  • @brandonjuber3576

    @brandonjuber3576

    2 ай бұрын

    He was Jewish so who knows

  • @TerriSpringer
    @TerriSpringer2 ай бұрын

    Thank you John for sharing. Nice job

  • @danicapaulos2347
    @danicapaulos23472 ай бұрын

    All the volcanoes erupting and mountains crashing into people must have happened when God blinked 😭

  • @allyson3629
    @allyson36292 ай бұрын

    amazing episode thank you guys

  • @joannhansell5692
    @joannhansell56922 ай бұрын

    Your shows together are GOLD

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