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@tonywilson4713

Ай бұрын

HEY PAUL I am an Australian Aerospace Engineer who did his degree at the University of Illinois Urbana Champaign in the late 80s. That is the same University Robert Mercer did his postgraduate studies at. Its also the college where Marc Andreessen did his degree as well as 2 of the 3 founders of KZread and a bunch of other tech giants. The University of Illinois was and still is one of the premier institutions for computing in the world. I can't speak for the computer geniuses who now dominate the world, but I can give perspective on the environment and advantages they had when at college and how it greatly disturbs me that several of them are now doing a lot of damage to the future prospects of others when they got such a massive advantage PAID FOR by the general population of America and especially the State of Illinois. THIS IS PART OF MY EXPERIENCE. In my last summer (1987) I was working for my professor in his consultancy work doing computer simulations into high speed APDS projectiles for the Abrams M1 Tank. It wasn't classified work as discarding sabot technology was not new but we didn't broadcast what we were doing either as it was sort of sensitive. My professor was actually a child refugee from WW2 who ended up in New Zealand before ending up in America and that New Zealand - Australia link served me well. He was actually busy helping Lockheed and Morton Thiokol fix the issues with the Space Shuttle boosters at that time because his speciality was the computer analysis of those kinds of structures, which we call axisymmetric. That's why he needed me to do the work I was doing. This is the comparison I want you to get. Before I went to Illinois I did a year of Mechanical Engineering at RMIT in Melbourne Australia. At that time RMIT had a single Cyber main frame computer. I checked and in 1985 RMIT had 10,875 students in higher education (degree & post grad) studies. They also had another block of vocational students (electricians, machinists, welders,...etc) and I doubt they ever went near the Cyber. At Illinois the Engineering College in 1987 had 2 Cyber main frames and VAX 8,000 series main frame, a Cray-2 Supercomputer and a Cray-XMP Super Computer. At that time U. Illinois was host to the National Center for Supercomputing Applications (NCSA), one of the 5 original centers for the National Science Foundation's Supercomputer Centers Program. Those computers do NOT include the ones the other departments had. Plus some of my professors had their own mini-mainframes in their offices. That also does not include the Plato system that was a forerunner of the internet (See below). When I was doing those simulations of the Abrams APDS projectile I had the older of the Cyber mainframes to myself because it was in the summer break but during the semesters there were maybe a few dozen using those Cyber main frames because most used the VAX. So I had 1 of these Cybers to *MYSELF* while almost 11,000 students back at RMIT had to share 1 and at the time RMOT was one of Australia's premier engineering schools. So when I tell you that people like Robert Mercer, Marc Andreessen, Larry Ellison, Steve Chen (KZread) and Jawed Karim (KZread) had an extraordinary advantage in developing their skills the average person CANNOT understand that advantage. Some of them didn't even need to finish their degrees. *I never met any of those people but I can tell you the ADVANTAG ETHEY HAD.* They could live eat and breath the latest and greatest computer technology available for 2 or 3 years and then go away without completing their degree. Their skills were so good by that stage they didn't need more class time. Most of all they didn't need to do all those annoying options in humanities. FYI - I hated those options until recent years when they started to become very useful, but that's another story. I mentioned the Plato System, which was a forerunner of the internet. Like all engineers I had to do a class in computing. As I had already done a fair amount of computing at high school the class was a breeze for me. Part of that class was doing "Plato Labs." When I asked the lecturer what we were do to he simply said "Use it!" When I asked "What for?" he said "Anything. Just use it!" What they did not explain well was that they were doing massive development work that lead to what you now know as the internet and they needed "techno lab rats" to use the system. They didn't care what we did they just wanted lots of users so they could sort out how to make this massive wide area networked system work. As a user PLATO was horrible. The screens were all either monochrome green or orange. That was the only choice green text or orange text *AND IT WAS SLOW.* You have no idea how slow it was. Here on KZread there's a couple of videos from the 1979 film Alien. One is titled - Alien (1979) - "What is Special Order #937?" When you watch how slow things came up on screen that's not far from how slow the Plato system felt in 1984, when I used it. By 1986 Apple, IBM, AT&T and others were simply dumping piles of the first generation of desk tops on us. In the Aerospace department we got ~40 AT&T PC's with Unix operating systems. They were awful by any standard. Unix at the time had great promise but it was almost unusable and there were no programs available to run on them anyway. AT&T just wanted us to use them and sort out the bugs. I worked out a couple of things and that actually made me popular with a couple of professors and monstrously unpopular with others. Among the systems these companies dumped were a couple of rooms with the first Apple McIntosh's and they were an instant hit because ANYONE could use them. they had these amazing things called a mouse and they had graphics and the first word processor that was actually user friendly. That was the environment Marc Andreessen landed in in 1989. There were computers everywhere. there was this monstrosity called Plato that everyone hated and these things called McIntosh's that everyone loved. Andreessen eventually teemed up with a brilliant programmer named Eric Bina and together they decide to make Plato into an Apple like experience and made the worlds first FUNCTIONAL web browser a program called Mosaic. You might know the company they formed called Netscape which they sold to Bill Gates and that program is now called Internet Explorer. What you need to understand is that these people like Mercer, Andreessen and other got this extraordinary education at a time when they could take advantage of it. Andreessen's recent swing towards "students must pay" Libertarianism is utter bunk when you consider that his wealth is based on public money being spent at a public university giving him access to the hardware and software he needed. Now Mercer was at Illinois years before I was there but I can understand the skill set he had. If you look at his bio on Wikipedia there's a hint to his nature regarding his work at Kirkland AFB before he went to Illinois for postgrad. I know that sort of drive technologists can have when they strive to do things better and to optimise what they are working on. I am guilty of that and I know it can get technology people into trouble. Instead of making do with what's there they endlessly strive for the unattainable and never get finished. So I know that behavior and also how dangerous it can be. Think Sheldon Cooper (Big Bang Theory) except for real. This is one of the major problems I see especially with people like Sam Altman and other drop outs. There is no doubt they are brilliant computer people with extraordinary talent. HOWEVER because they never completed their degrees they missed out on a lot of social interaction. I'm no spectacular example of people skills but these guys have none and WORSE is they have NO IDEA of the effects they have on society and that's the main thing that needs discussing. What Mercer did with Cambridge Analytica and Brexit causing incredible harm was just a computer trick to someone like him. I doubt he cares at all about the effects and outcomes. Remember they offered Cambridge Analytica's work TO BOTH SIDES of Brexit. The outcome didn't mean anything. To someone like Mercer what does it matter if he smashes Britain and disrupts Europe? The proof that the analytics worked and they could target each person with individual messages and then manipulate the outcome of an election meant everything. To a person with superior intellectual capabilities (and Mercer fits that bill) an election where even the dumbest person is equal to the smartest does not come across as fair. So a person like Mercer will do what he does as a correction to what he perceives as a failure in the system. And now with generative AI on the verge of creating content indistinguishable from reality we are in a precarious situation. In future we might not even know about things like Gaza because some fictious content will have us looking elsewhere *OR* some of those claims we now know were simply made up about babies being burnt alive in ovens we'll have footage of it that NOBODY will be able to teel that its faked. If you want to have a Skype or other to discuss some of this on this let me know.

@tonywilson4713

Ай бұрын

HEY PAUL Just so you know, my current interest is in the *economics of energy,* which we have so badly miscalculated it ridiculous. The Energy Transition is out of control. We were always going to have to do it because eventually every power station needs replacing because they wear out, but the mismanagement cause by the neoliberal economic order has made it into a disaster. Its a long discussion that I have been trying to get Steve Keen to let me on his podcast to explain. Here In Australia people were ready to go to war when they heard the energy transition could cost AU$500 Billion. My estimate was that it would cost us at least AU$2 Trillion and maybe $4 or $5 Trillion. Just recently they revised Australia's costs to AU$2 Trillion. So I know that there are others starting to wake up. Here's maybe the best story in energy right now. Sorry its not short but you will love this one. President Macron just signed off on build 8 new EPR 2 Reactors like the 2 currently under construction at Hinkley Point in Britain. Its the same design as the ones at Taishan in China, Olkiluoto in Finland and Flamanville in France. Its part of having standardised designs, which is actually a good idea. Those 3 all took longer than expected to build and cost more but then they were the first of their design. That's sort of normal in engineering. *The real question is how is France paying for these 8 reactors?* And this is where it gets fun. Plus the French plan at least 6 more after these 8. The answer is France isn't paying for them Britain is or more specifically the British people. You see investment is about making money and when the French, through the French State owned company EDM paid (most of it) for Hinckley Point C they did it to make money. THIS NEEDS TO BE HOWLED FROM THE ROOF TOPS - The French aren't investing £33 Billion at Hinkley to be nice and kind to the Brits. They are doing it to make money. That's what investment is for - MAKE MONEY. Now since Hinckley will have an operational life of 70 years that's a lot of time to make a lot of money and pay for the reactors in France. For every Euro/Pound EDM puts into Hinkley they should get at least 5 back. Because EDM doesn't have shareholders, they have the French People instead they don't have to make profit to pay dividends they have to make money for the French People. That's how sovereign enterprises work and EDM is a sovereign enterprise. How much do the British people understand this? ZERO, absolutely ZERO, but the managers and bankers understand they will make giant piles of money for themselves. The mangers who manage that power station will manage it well because it will only make money when its pumping power down the wires. The bankers in the city of London are going to make piles of money of the transfer fees for sending the profits from the power bills back to France. Its one of the consequences of neoliberal economic ideology that your own government should not do anything in your own country. The best part of this for both the British Labor and Tory parties is that the money the French get will NOT EFFECT a single British budget for those 70 years unless they start handing out reimbursements and if they do hand out reimbursements they'll look good for doing it. *It will be the British people who pay for those reactors in France every time they turn on a light, charge their phone or boil the kettle after watching Coronation Street.* Gotta love those neoliberals. Sorry for the giant comments but someone has to start pointing this stuff out.

I'm not voting for Biden.

@oleeb

Ай бұрын

It only matters if you live in a swing state. So who you vote for or not and why is of absolutely no consequence if you libe outside those 7 states. I live in a terminally red state so I can vote for Stein and I will. But if I lived in a swing state I would vote for Biden because it matters there and on any area where Biden is horrible like Israel, Trump and the Republicans aren’t just worse but are magnitudes worse. It’s a terrible situation.

@casey7411

Ай бұрын

I would agree that Trump is worse on many things, but you can't really be worse than Biden on Israel. Trump would be comparably bad, I can't imagine him being an order of magnitude worse

@greggasiorowski1326

Ай бұрын

@@casey7411 He promised to ban & deport student protesters for one.

@DanA-nl5uo

Ай бұрын

​@@greggasiorowski1326 good luck deporting American Citizens. But that won't change the fact that 20,000 American citizens today fight for Israel with American made weapons and American funding. The congress even wants to extend full American military benefits to those American members of the IDF.

@DeanStrickson

Ай бұрын

@@casey7411 Are you flipping serious? Trump has bashed Biden numerous times for not doing enough FOR Israel. Do you think that Trump the extreme racist is going to give up any opportunity to destroy brown people? You are utterly delusional.

Easy choice: I live in Ohio, Trump will win with or without my vote so zero pressure to vote for genocide zombie, tossing vote to the Greens as usual.

@screenPhiles

Ай бұрын

Sure, but you're missing the point. It shouldn't matter where you live, it doesn't change that Joe Biden is deliberately sponsoring a genocide, never mind his mediocre managing of the economy. Whether or not you live in a 'safe' state should be irrelevant. And that's not saying the you should support Trump - though until I see the '666' somewhere on his body I'm not buying that way Democrats are working overtime to turn him to Damien ('The Final Conflict' version) - though that doesn't change for one second Joe Biden doesn't deserve your support.

Sorry but at 50 after half a century of lesser of two evils just moving the spectrum futher evil i won't vote for the duopoly of evil. I will vote Jill Stein to break the cycle of evil.

Foreigner here. Stein seems to me to be the only decent candidate. But if elected, she"d have to deal with the state department, the pentagon, the CIA and plenty of other horrors of a failed democracy.

Nope not holding my nose and voting for Biden again. NOTHING will change as we have seen election after election moving further to the right by endorsing a "moderate". This Pennsylvania voter will be voting for Jill Stein 2024.

@aaronblain6377

Ай бұрын

Trump is the best thing to ever happen to the Democratic Party. Now they never have to offer the people ANYTHING.

@debraleighscott

Ай бұрын

I completely agree with you. The Greens aren't on the PA ballot, however. No matter what, Biden is going to lose PA.

@nancyhirsch7768

27 күн бұрын

​@@debraleighscott Their deadline is up in Aug. and they have 4,300 out of the necessary 5,000. The focus is on IL and IN for a June 24th.

Noooooo voting for evil, of any kind, you chumps! ❤

@screenPhiles

Ай бұрын

Exactly. How many genocides does someone have to perpetuate before you say 'No.' If you listen to Adolph Reed Democrats can literally do whatever terrible thing they want, as long as they can scare people with the other guy. Sorry, but it has to stop somewhere and Biden is as good a place as any.

Great to see Mr Jay back. An absolute gentleman

All love and respect to the honorable doc Reed here, but I'm tired of settling. He has less tomorrows than he had yesterdays and still makes arguments for neoliberals. I'm tired, we're tired.

@debraleighscott

Ай бұрын

I agree. And he is probably more economically secure. I am his age, but agree with you. I stopped playing their "lesser evil" game years ago.

Yikes. The Empire is laughing all the way to the bank.

Jill Stein 2024

@DanA-nl5uo

Ай бұрын

Yes we must break the duopoly of evil

"I was a kid in the McCarthy Era." And we are now adults in the Russiagate Era.

It’s been said people don’t change until it hurts too much to stay the same. For some on the left Gaza is a real shame but it’s doesn’t touch them, not really. For others it’s a searing injustice that burns with a fury that shakes them to their very core. The lesser-evil argument has no purchase with the second group, nor should it. Politics is an infinite game. If this decision isn’t taken out of the electoral hide of democrats in a PAINFUL way it will happen again. In Haiti, in Congo, In Palestine & at home.

@cocothemonkey

Ай бұрын

Well said. There is a lot that I do support (antitrust, unions, rx cost control, some student loan forgiveness) but that all pales in comparison to the human suffering he has enabled abroad. Sure, we need strong unions but not with the blood of Palestinians. Trump won’t be any better - we know this. My vote will be third party yet again and that will be the only organizing I will do. If anything, we likely have more people than ever disillusioned with the two party system.

@mjleger

Ай бұрын

Forget about reforming the Dems - they're done.

I can sit out this election. My vote in this state less than meaningless. I might write in Jill Stein, if I get really ambitious.

@JuliusGalacki

Ай бұрын

Hopefully Jill Stein will actually be on the ballot in your state. The Greens were in 43 states the last election and they are moving forward to something similar or better in the upcoming one.

@Ecotechnologist

Ай бұрын

Greens are on most ballots

Both the Host and the Guest are very thoughtful, yet, the conditions for Trumps ilk to emerge - it required Biden and his ilk to create the conditions. Even though this is not absolute, Elections allow Oligarchs to create the illusion the people are given a political choice. At this point suffering will have to hit a tipping point before a political and economic recalibration will take place; either towards justice or order, or both. The external conditions of ecological overshoot/ecocide are playing a greater role in our human condition than we are aware. This discussion requires more nuance.

I live in Maryland and it will go to Biden with or without me--it won't be close. Under our flawed Constitution it is only the Electoral College matters. I refuse to be scared of Trump, if he wins I will March in the street and resist.

Not impressed with Reed. He never seems to provide any real focus how the left can actually defeat the ruling class. With people like him and Jay, can one really expect such a meaningful challenge to develop. Without brilliant left intellects and organisers this will never happen!

So good to see you again, dear Mr.Paul Jay, at this ultra critical moment. We are, according to Jeffrey Sachs, 90 seconds to midnight.

One of the problems is that since the disappearance of the USSR, the (transnational) capitalist class no longer makes concessions to the working class - only austerity, extreme management and security regimes. Even if we agree on what we want, we can't expect the Dems (the partner in the two-party tag team) to concede any of it. We need a clean break from bourgeois parties with, minimally, a new United Front-type strategy. Most of the US left won't go for it because they live on the margins of the anti-left DP and the foundation-funded NGO sector, not to mention neoliberal-postmodern academia and the media, which is mostly PMC 20 percenters. We'll gain working class support when we build a fighting movement. Austerity + armaggedon with a fake reformist face, à la Biden, is unconvincing.

@aaronblain6377

Ай бұрын

The Party for Socialism and Liberation and the CPUSA are growing rapidly.

Is he ill?

I'm voting for Jill Stein. The duopoly doesn't represent me at all.

Why the heck would I vote for Biden in CA?

Reed is brilliant, but political strategy/revolutionary politics(which is desperately needed) is not his expertise. Vote Biden(or Trump)if you want to give legitimacy to the hegemon marching us onwards to oblivion. Either voting matters or it doesn't. Voting for Democrats is literally the worst kind of cruel optimism. Steven Pinker would be proud. The obvious argument against the "move them left" or "better conditions for change" is that you had the most mass resistance when Trump was in power and then when Biden got in everyone went to brunch. The actual "left" need to let go of this delusion of voting for the lesser evil because it has never fucking worked and logically never will.

I hope an audience is still around when your documentary comes out.

Hell no Joe!

So glad to hear from both of you - it’s been too long!

Why is Kamala talking to me like I am in 3rd grade? A Democrat habit.

@mjleger

Ай бұрын

She is attacking grade 2 Trump from the left.

Great discussion. I think when you talk about climate change, you also have to talk about how we're deep into ecological overshoot. That really the climatenis just a symptom of this and is not a fixable problem, it is our predicament. Overshoot is a set of conditions within our society that has been stealing resources from the future for decades, with no sign of stopping. In 20-50 years, we're probably done, regardless of what we do...

@a.randomjack6661

Ай бұрын

'93,4% of the warming goes into the oceans'. Only 2,3% of it is measurable in the troposphere. So, 1,5°C is only 2,5% of the actual global warming, whic is not how scientist measure global warming. It is measured by satellites at the surface of the tropopause and it's the difference in watts per square meter between incoming solar radiation and outgoing IR radiation. Looks up heat ocean content. It's also responsible of a big part f ice melt. You may also want to look up "planetary boundaries" and "Earth overshoot day".

@brianadlich4406

Ай бұрын

Exactly. I’ve thought about this lesser evils for so long I can’t even entertain it anymore.

Worry more about the down-ballot candidates + issues, that's where we can move the needle ☑

GenocideJoe 😢

Thinking you have a moral edge regarding who you vote for is not strategic. Voting is more than voting for a person or candidate, not choosing a side cedes power to the enemy.

Absolutely.

Surprised to be saying this, but...I disagree with Adolph Reed's analysis! Still respect him, but I'm not going to vote out of fear. Jill Stein, 2024.

@falsificationism

Ай бұрын

Regarding AI, I think the real threat isn't its alleged sophistication; the real threat will be lazy human operators who ASSUME the algorithms are feeding us good information/suggestions. For instance, some 19-year-old Lance Corporal may use AI to decide how to prioritize a target. Approve... Approve... Approve...Approve...Approve...Approve...Approve... AI will likely reduce most human decisions to vigilance tasks. Humans are HORRIBLE at vigilance but excellent at critical reflection, but AI will flip the script, making us mindless automata. Again, not because AI is superior, but because people like Elon Musk will market their AI and propagandize it so heavily that we'll mindlessly assume the algorithms are working as advertised.

Lesser-evilism. This isn't surprising coming from Reed.

@markmarshall5234

Ай бұрын

There's another word for lesser-evilism: sanity. Because to choose the worst of two evils is insane.

@MathUDX

Ай бұрын

It is surprising to me, coming from a guy who once tried to organize an American Labor Party.

@MathUDX

Ай бұрын

@@markmarshall5234 There's another word for your fallacy: false dichotomy.

@DanA-nl5uo

Ай бұрын

​@@markmarshall5234or complicity in the evil when there is a 3rd party

@markmarshall5234

Ай бұрын

@@MathUDX not false. For all practical purposes, there are only two parties in this country, at the Presidential level.

Ranked voting!

12 mins in and I’m thinking to myself, what the heck is this dude talking about??

You are a traitor. Your name will be placed on the traitor list.

I have tried...and tried to talk to people. They do not want to talk They do not want to see.

Very interesting conversation, thank you.

Just get out there & vote according to your best interests -- and try to organize your vote as a bloc. Also as a unionist… Reed's on thr mark here. Shout out from Milwaukee!

@steevesdd

Ай бұрын

I enjoy Paul on any topic he chooses. I would like to go off topic from the video. I have a proposal for a solution for many of the issues raised in the intro. Consider a world military. If all world states belonged to a world military and the military worked under a UN mandate to maintain borders, maintain freedom of navigation and maintain freedom of skies. Member states would be required to disband their military. There are many upsides. Control of military development. Important to control the development for military weapons. Reduce military spending. Important to allow states to fund a transition from fossil fuel economy to renewable energy economy. The reduction of emissions from military operations. Allows for a clear path to eliminate nuclear weapons. It could also allow NATO to have a new purpose.

Awesome conversation. I think, much as the title will be immediately anger many people, this interview makes a crucially important point. A)Democrats suck, 100%. Trump is catastrophic, 100%. B) In terms of building an alternative there are far more important things than the election. C) We therefore must distinguish the difference between what to do in the election and how to build an alternative. The election as it stands is for stopping a total catastrophe. The alternative will not come from the election. It will come from organizing things like unions locally, and ultimately an international working class movement.

@oleeb

Ай бұрын

Precisely! Very well put!

Disappointed in Reed. I admire him and have followed him in the past. But telling people to vote for Biden is a huge error. Also, Reed is looking so thin---I hope he is well.

Jill stine

@brianadlich4406

Ай бұрын

Go Green for sure

@JuliusGalacki

Ай бұрын

Jill Stein.

Worlds just collided in a beautiful way.

@joeheuft

Ай бұрын

Also 19:20 - Duh! In a world where everybody’s alienation exists with them being online, the only way to organize is in meat-space.

the parties are the same

@GarrFagen-zc3em

Ай бұрын

Oh, really ?

❤❤❤

Where's part 2!

Dolphins.

@greggasiorowski1326

Ай бұрын

Thanks for all the fish. 🐟

Trump must lose. Period.

Bunch of Russian bots shilling for Trump in these comments

Bourgeoisie, hardly anyone can spell it, but here you go with your two hundred years old vocabulary. Like saying "you create another version of it that is exactly the same and put it in a different place or a different document" instead of "copy & paste".

NO.

Does it not depend on what state you live in?

@coloradopeoplesnews7676

Ай бұрын

Is evil in a blue state different that evil in a red state? No evil is evil.

As crisis intensifies, social democrats increasingly show their true colors. "Fascism is the bourgeoisie’s fighting organisation that relies on the active support of Social-Democracy. Social-Democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism. There is no ground for assuming that the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie can achieve decisive successes in battles, or in governing the country, without the active support of Social-Democracy. There is just as little ground for thinking that Social-Democracy can achieve decisive successes in battles, or in governing the country, without the active support of the fighting organisation of the bourgeoisie. These organisations do not negate, but supplement each other. They are not antipodes, they are twins." -- Concerning the International Situation, Joseph Stalin (the guy who defeated Nazi Germany).