SHOCKING Results! How much POWER is in your SHOWER?
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@tek4
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your videos and content very much. We have alot in common altho ypu do way better video production and even production of materials and tools, devices. But I really just made the comment to say thank you. I've been toying with the idea to make one of these for a long time but at the water meter location for our city water supply. I just have yet had the proper motivation. However you have proven I'm not so crazy with this idea after all.
@privateeye2490
2 жыл бұрын
Check your flow rate without the shower head (what's actually going through the hose you're using). Many showerheads have a flow limiter and what you showed on camera was ~2gpm as expected but then you removed the head for connection to the generator. Check this then adjust your math if it's different. Most homes are at least 4-5gpm. And for those that say there's no point if there's a pump somewhere, the point is to save YOU money/energy, not the utility, and you wouldn't run your shower just to charge your phone. You're already running the shower to wash so why not use the energy at the same time instead of literally flushing it down the drain? It would be better, though, if you had a generator tied into your water line just inside the supply so anytime anyone used water anywhere on the property you get to power something, maybe a small battery bank or a fan.
@arinternationalsas
2 жыл бұрын
I Didn't see you k factor designing your nozzle
@billkillernic
2 жыл бұрын
Could it be that the gap between the wheel and the 3D printed walls is so narrow that friction due to excess water now flowing down fast enough, causing the wheel to spin slower? I mean if that is the case then it is not only friction but also each "cup" on the wheel has push an x mass of water while it rotates
@yuvalhuck5437
2 жыл бұрын
Dude, you need an isolation transformer. Also isn't the three phase wiring you converted to more efficient? Like that's why 3 phase is generally used for.
I love how you sacrifice your home just for our entertainment. You're really an awesome creator.
@sbiecoproductions6062
2 жыл бұрын
also u can tell he's a pro in doin that by the blue lab coat XD
@arielkozak
2 жыл бұрын
And for his entertainment too
@-pickle-4726
2 жыл бұрын
He lives in the woods as far as I know
@yaphead20
2 жыл бұрын
I think this dudes a legend too. Wish all teachers were as passionate as him. My daughters going to be studying this channel in a few years
@arunshandil4161
2 жыл бұрын
@@arielkozak ❤😅😂s
I really like how you're putting up the equations and showing how to solve them. Exposure like that is super important to helping people get more used to the mathematics.
@scottadams3544
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Seeing the equation is nice. I can show a (glee generation child) the video and not have them believe you just asked alexa or aliens for the answer. You did the work and they can see it applied in the same video.
Idea for the next video, installing a pelton to harvest the power from the urinal :P But being serious, I love your new BUILD and would love to see a part 2 of this project!
@everettstormy
2 жыл бұрын
You had to use the tongue out emoji immediately after talking about urinals
@joshuagibson2520
2 жыл бұрын
Yes. I like this idea.
@pawjeppesen-ifttttricks605
2 жыл бұрын
Or flushing the upstairs toilet 😉
10:00 reminding me of my granpa, he was teaching me some electric stuff when I was ~8, and sadly, he passed away a year ago. What a great memory
I love videos that are like this. stuff made here, smarter every day, you, its these channels holding me on KZread. Thank you for making my day, keep it going.
@skinife
2 жыл бұрын
You like those maker daddies
@carlosiespinozab
Жыл бұрын
@@skinife Makers daddies are the best.
What an interesting concept! Thanks for sharing your BUILD and the process you took to get there!
Hey Quint, some thoughts on the electric side of the project: these simple buck converters are probably not very well suited for the project. You're dealing with a heavy variing input voltage that will probably drop a lot when put under load (e.i. when your Smartfone is connected). What could wirk pretty well is a buffer - let's call it a rechargeable battery. And since you have this wide range voltage input, you can use a solar charge regulator for the charging of the battery: solar panels hve a wide voltage range and the voltage drops depending on the load. A cheap TP5100 regulator would be my choice for a test - you get these in china for pennies. With a 3.7V battery connected, you can use a small boost converter to generate 5V to charge your fone. Keep up the good work with your videos!
First: I really love your content. Regarding improvement tips. You already got some electronic tips. So here a mechanical improvement. The pelton with two scoops per row spits half of the water to the top. Which in turn slows the turbine down while falling down because of gravity and on escape to the side :-). Maybe switching to a one scoop per row turbine fed at the high point and shooting out the water only to the bottom will increase efficiency.
@scottadams3544
2 жыл бұрын
weekend stuff, thats sounds better. if i understand your suggestion its basically rotate the device 90° So that the stream is down and splashback is up and away. Im not shure about a single cup pelton wheel improving unless its the plastic twisting stress adding a harmonic wiggle your concerned with. If so, i guess used the 3d print as a cast for puter or other metal casting pour? Somthing with more strength. Or an epoxy layer to reduce plastic deflection /cup twist. Cuz who has time for casting
@weekendstuff
2 жыл бұрын
@@scottadams3544, if you are able to rotate the complete device 90deg then no need for a single scoop pelton IMHO. The single scoop pelton was only ment to be used if the orientation of the device stays. But you are right there will be an issue with unbalanced forces. Regarding casting a metal pelton, using lost form casting, I could support with the furnace but I don't have access to a 3D printer (yet) :-). And it usually takes more than one try (for me) to get the castings right... So going with turning the device 90deg seems to be the easiest fix.
I would be more intrested in collecting the heat from the shower water that goes down the drain. 🙂 It is so much more energy. 🙂
@yosemiteanemone4714
2 жыл бұрын
There are products that do this. It's basically a coil of copper that feeds your cold water supply to the shower, recycling the heat immediately.
@nebulous962
2 жыл бұрын
@@yosemiteanemone4714 true.
Please do look into this further, it's very exciting. Keep up the good work
Thank you, thank you thank you! These videos are awesome and is exactly perfect for my learning style. Great, subject matter with fierce tenacity. Great job!
I love how you use real-world problems as an opportunity to teach your children real-world solutions and lessons. It’s the best way to spend time with your children and teach them so many different things that they can use in their future. 🤙🏽👏🏽👌🏽I try to follow this with mine.
You answered my questions about the shower, rain gutters and also potential energy storage with the water stored on your roof. Thank you!
Hi, I am not an export, but I saw this same concept in The Great Escape with Richard and Tory on Amazon. When they overdid the flow with the wheel, they got and effect that made their wheel a lot slower.
"Since metric makes everything easier". Thanks a lot !
the quality of the editing and the graphics are gettin better and better. awsome channel. cheers from italy!
Great stuff! I'm happy I found your channel
I'm always happy to see a new QuintBUILDs!
Man your videos are just brilliant! So much fun 👍🏼
I truly find ur show's very interesting and intriguing. What unique ideas u have, which makes it fun and entertaining. Great job man, absolute thumbs up. 👍 And yes, keep going with the shower experiment.
good one! Always wanned to test this. thanks man!
Love all of your experiments. it gives meaning and fun to all these apparently dull formulas
Great Channel. I gotta binge watch now.
Thanks for these videos.
Wow, this is awesome! thanks!.
hello quint, i'm from philippines and i am so glad to follow your works, i love physics too. keep it up...
I love the videos! Great vibe!
Dude, I've always wondered this. Thanks!
go back to the wye wiring and instead of using a normal 3 phase rectifier, use thyristors with an arduino to control the firing angle. Your dc out voltage is determined by the angle. Then you can the converters at the input voltage where they are most efficient. My theory here is similar to MPPT instead of PWM for solar in that I think you need to keep the velocity of the generator rotor in the sweet spot as well.
Oh man your videos are so very underrated. I wish I had this when I was doing my renewable energy project over 10 years ago!
How am I only now finding out about this channel. Great video sir. Great engineering approaches/explanation here.
So cool that you involve your kids in the projects
I'd definitely like to see you explore this further.
Quint it is likely you are over speeding the alternator. It's likely designed for shaft speeds around the 150 to 200 Hz output range. With many alternators they are designed for a given shaft rpm range, if they are running outside of that range their efficiency drops off Another thing to look at is your bridge rectifier suitable for the frequency you are feeding it with the high RPM of the Pelton wheel? You could try a larger sized jet to flow more water to increase torque to the unit. You are playing with compromises regardless of the math.
I love you channel It's so informative.
Amazing video and creativity. This is why I love the internet!
very great explainations, you defenitely make them easy to understand
You could try rigging up something to measure the torque from the Pelton wheel. Perhaps mount the whole unit on a pivot, with an arm to a weighing scale or something. That way you could measure the mechanical power being generated by the turbine under various speeds and loads etc. and compare it with the electrical output from the generator.
Love these videos
You make great science videos! I love physics and I love your channel.
I bet your wife really enjoys projects inside the house 🤣 great video as always
@Jasonoid
2 жыл бұрын
if the videos pay the bills or for a vacation, i'm sure she does!
@haulngrassracing
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jasonoid My wife would just roll her eyes and say make you put it back together when you’re done lol
This is awesome 👌 👏
Now I can feel less guilty taking a 4-hour shower. I'm producing power, mom!
@nebulous962
2 жыл бұрын
280wh gained(assuming you got the 70w he said was possible). Probably like 80kwh used to heat the water. 😀
You do a great job of combining the engineering and practicality of making something work. My personal idea is to use the incoming water supply after my water meter to turn a turbine. Just enough to be a charging station for a battery bank that is sufficient enough to run my home. The incoming water supply will be moving a lot more quantity of water consistently then just the shower. However I’m not at your level of expertise! Thanks for the video, keep up the good work!
Thank you for this a hugest beneficial video. 😊😊 17:55 I think the friction inside the pipes is one of the variables that decreases the power. 😊
Very interesting project. I think you can rewind the generator with thicker copper wire so that the current will increase. This will also help in reducing the speed of the turbine.
That’s something I’ve been wondering about for quite some time while taking a shower & glad to see someone trying to do it. I’m glad recommendations brought this up so I can Sub. To make it simpler try making a in-line turbine that connects to a garden hose first to not make a mess in bathroom. It would be nice to charge something when watering the lawn/garden & have it connected to the sprinkling system eventually or would it be better connecting to the water line coming into your house or conect it just before the water heater. It would be a good combination with Solar Panels to charge batteries. For a simpler salution have something to screw on shower head then run a wire out to the charging station that has a light to light up bathroom when power is out & has a shelf to charge devices on. It would have an on board rechargeable battery to charge 2 phones at the same time. The thing I don’t want to see is people wasting water just so they can charge their phone when power is out. We get power outages all the time & I would buy something like this. I didn’t know there was a shower head that lights up & it would be great to use when power goes out. I have a squeeze flash light & wondered if you can hook a USB port to it to charge phone. I have a Biolite stove that has a thermoelectric generator that charges my phone with wood. Have a thermoelectric generator at the gas water heater. I’ve seen thermoelectric generators you put on wood stoves. I’m all for trying to harvest energy anyway we can to be off grid. I’ll have to go back & check out your other vids.
Pretty sharp dude!
Great video .This is a great idea!. My suggestion would be tapping into the flow from the main water inlet into the property by fitting a turbine to convert the flow to electrical power, it would be be easier than tapping each individual water outlet to generate power as the flow rate of the incoming water supply is much greater and only one turbine would be required. Using this method power would be generated everytime a tap or faucet or appliance such as dishwasher, shower, washing machine, bath etc; is used. Using hydro power for generating electricity in the home is essential now that energy costs are spiralling.
@adensmore100
Жыл бұрын
this is a great suggestion, you could put a larger generator on the main line to power/charge a large battery for the house to run of of and put smaller generators onto the spigots to power water heaters…the water heaters can have batteries that would heat the water instantly on demand and use the power generated from use to recharge an continuously heat the water being used…
Maximize the power!!! I'm so interested in
Your channel is awesome
Hi, This is absolutely beautiful,!!! I am working In my notes, I am very close to having enough Research, info, that can be put into a booklet. So, I will be starting on my booklet, that explains, step by step, how TO: build a house Tiny house, Campers, or anything else. And make it ( self sustained ), generating it's Own, power" to recharge a battery bank.!!
Love to see a follow up :)
I love this! Did I see 3 scope probes? Wonder what it would look like with an oscilloscope. They're getting cheap nowadays, and you shouldn't need a fancy/expensive one for this project. I was also wondering if there is an optimal speed on the impeller. Perhaps faster is better You might want to take another look at the wiring of the windings. Perhaps the initial star config, along with transformers, could be the way to go. Or a gearbox. Very interesting video! I'm subscribing!
Extraordinary. Finish it and find out if there is problem or not.
I also live i nthe beaverton area! Awesome channel and build. Would love to see you make your own generator/alternator for this as well. Maybe dig in more to the math needed to figure out optimal engergey at the rpm's you are at?
Incroyable cette vidéo
Fantastic work!
I'd die happy knowing someone charged their phone with the power of ... going to see a man about a dog ;) And now that my high school sense of humor is satisfied, great work, love your videos, keep em coming!
Keep fiddling with it and you’ll get it. The more energy you extract the lower the discharge pressure and/or flow will be.
I’d love to see if a reduction gearbox would solve the power problem by slowing down the generator and reducing the load on the water wheel to help with surging.
@Thepiecat
2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking a transformer with the first coil config might be the way to go Depends completely on the optimal speed of the impeller
@deang5622
Жыл бұрын
It is not a power problem, it's an over voltage problem. Whatever power the generator produces, he wants all of it. He doesn't have excess power, he has excess voltage.
1:05 Hey... I've been in and climbed (internally) that water tower to do work on the antennas at the top! :)
Hello I love your videos you really have a great content. I want to ask if you tried testing the generator with a proper wind turbune controller( maybe an MPPT as for solar panels ) to be able to get the max ammount of power and charge a 12V battery with that. Maybe this will help to get the desired power. Thank you alotfor your great videos!!
Awesome video! I wonder what would happen if you optimized power generation first without a nozzle or flow restriction, and then start experimenting with how to turn it into a shower head without reducing too much of that energy. Not sure how much restriction there was though.
might help to have gearing done to harness it better. although i don't know how much you might lose in parasitic friction from them. might be worth a look though.
I have a rule to like all videos where someone puts a DSO on top of a toilet.
@QuintBUILDs
2 жыл бұрын
LOL!
Go back to Y wiring and plug a solar mppt charger onto it. The MPPT will alter the current draw to make the Pelton wheel spin at a speed that will give peak efficiency.
Try looking at the no load voltages on a scope. You can compare the waveforms to see if there is an issue. To test the core loss you could remove the stator and spin the rotor and measure the power input. Then repeat the test with the stator installed and the gen at no load and the stator installed. The difference in power will be the eddy current and hysteresis (core loss) in the stator core. This core loss will decrease some with load, but it will give you some idea. Also you may have increased copper losses due to skin effect if your frequency is much higher than the design intent.
I have a degree in mechanical engineering. I'm taking my board exam this month, I'll definitely recalculate everything. In this way, maybe it will help me master fluid mechanics and some basic electronics. However, I just finished reviewing and it's 3:20 AM in my country. I'll try it tomorrow. BTW, you have great parenting skills. I salute you as an engineer and as a father figure 🫡
Hi, to get maximum of the pelton turbine, the velocity of blades should be half the speed of water going from the nozzle. So you can try put there some gearbox.
YES PLEASE!
You've got me hooked! I hope you find the answer.
I think it's cool how you can hear the wheel slow down and see the voltage drop under load
Oh, I think that the 80 psi might not be from the city, but the water regulator on your house. Something I learned recently and stuck with me.
Can you make a video on vaccum water pump and how it can be used in commercial and residential case for fulfilling water pumping and electricity generation. THANKS
I love this video, I was always wondering how much waste energy was in my water pipes. I also didn’t know Portland water was gravity, I thought it was pumped!
I'm baffled confused and have brain ache 😕 but I really appreciate your video thank you for sharing 😊
Here in Brazil we use electrical showers. Usually 5.400W or 7.200W
wish you was around when i was in school, your doing a servce to these kids.
Prehaps you shold try using an adjustable electronic load straight from the rectifier to compare the output power with different amounts of load
Dude... I really like your videos. I would like to make a suggestion: Make a video about heating water through magnets (Eddy Current)... Greetings from Brasil!!!
There is a practical use of using water pressure as backup power. It's a water pressure powered backup sump pump. It uses the venturi principle to create a partial vacuum, that can suck water out of your sump basin. Generally used as a backup pump. I'm sure it's not very efficient, and of course increases your water bill. But it's a very reliable pump that doesn't fail when the power goes out.
"ponder hydro power" is that a sneaky orb meme reference? amazing!
Put the generator back to star and use an xmfr to lower the voltage then rectify it to DC
I hated Science lessons with a passion as a kid. Thank you for making Science fun, interesting and understandable 😀
That's an awesome idea to use the water systems already in the house to get power back on
I would test the generator outside of the shower with compressed air to verify it producing the power it is supposed to. Also would consider building the casing to hold more water around the fins with a spiral tapered outlet. The idea is for there to be consistent pressure throughout and around the fins with a clean exit for the water.
I want a part two
Try to use an mppt solar charge controller to convert from higher voltage to low. The mppt, constantly monitors the input voltage and tries to squeeze as much energy as possible, without pulling too much.
@Oliviiiful
2 жыл бұрын
Add the same idea watching this.
nice integrated house power idea, try household wood burner integrated generator (turbine, thermo-couple, for example)
@Jkauppa
2 жыл бұрын
low side power, from main primary source (heat, water)
3:44 master of explanation !!!
I am a bit late to the party, but I have a possible suggestion. I had to work recently with bearings in high air pressure. One of the problems I had to work around was the air pushing out the oil of the bearing. I think here could be happening something similar. As your first bearing got clocked, I think its possible that the water gets into your bearing and washes the oil out. (I am sorry for my bad english, am not native. Still hope its understandible.)
I see it in extreme efficiency home. Like filling water tower from solar energy when you are at work. At taking some back when you shower after work when sun has gone. But it probably will be we go low only for going low.
Awesome 😎
Hi its also about sinewave switching winks, think about it, when out of phase it causes exotic ripples in the timing of a waves magnetosphere. it happens in a ripple tank using sound oscillation plates and , well THE REST WOULD JUST SPOIL IT. Power is all around us within us traveling with us always
add a gear reduction to reduce the speed at the generator. lower rpm might play nicer with the wind turbine
Please do make a follow-up. I'd like to see you figure out the answer to the mystery.
Quint please make a video including generating power from workout - treadmill etc.
@DobromirSzlachetny
2 жыл бұрын
@@mattmurphy7030 Yes of course I meant excercise bikes 🙈
Old times, I have try this kinda thing . Target in ahm(2a) is hard ways...is rocky hard......is hard key