Folks I'm okay with constructive criticism ... HOWEVER if you feel the need to be RUDE and or downright obnoxious then your comment will be REMOVED, and you may be banned from the channel. Please think BEFORE you decide to comment. Enough is enough!

Former firefighter and safety officer. I utilized the deck gun every situation that allowed for a deck gun attack. Knocks the fire down quick if not completely and less hose to screw with.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Deck gun was wanted by command but was out of service ... That radio traffic didn't male the video. It was why I started running after starting the video as I figured quick knockdown ...

@7846NEWCO

2 ай бұрын

apologies to the people and visitors of this town....but hey good knock! .....lady in the gray Nomex hoodie nice job....guy in the thermoplastic fiberglass ball cap with MT1000 radio in rear pocket.....thank you for your service !

@heinzkonig5736

Ай бұрын

Kompetenzprobleme zu Beginn?

@AirlinersHD

Ай бұрын

Serbian firefighter here, 14 years. No deck gun i our tactic regarding structure fire. For me, it is very wrong. Our engines carry 1088, or 1344, or 806gallons of water and hidrant line is not good, exept in major towns. Ok, water consumptions on deck gun is very high, minimum 200gallons per minute, but with deck gun, we could crush every raging blaze (one that is visible and accessible), with let's say two minues of using deck gun, and during that time, normal line and all other stuff is going on at scene... But no. Strictly prohibited to use deck gun on structure fire's.

@FDNY8231

Ай бұрын

@@AirlinersHD I agree ... The deck gun would've been perfect to knock this fire down in around a minute. However while command wanted it, and asked for it, it was out of service on this engine. So they went with what they had. Does it look pretty? No! Most importantly did it get the job done? Yes absolutely! We can talk tactics, and what they should've done ALL day long, but the outcome was the fire went out, and no one was injured, and everyone went home to their families.

Organized, rapid response and an extra shout out to our woman on site! Training, training, training.....and a HUGE dose of passion for your community. I grew up in a rural volunteer FF home and know how many hours are behind every turnout. Naysayers, nitpickers stop and think before you lash out: under 3 mins. I saw steam and that stopped what could have been the whole block. Thank you to all!

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Amen brother ...

@fdMT_EnGy

2 ай бұрын

Theres a bunch of them. That's awesome to see.

Definitely a good remedial training experience for this department. Just lucky no one was inside the building.

@FDNY8231

Ай бұрын

If there had been a person entrapped in there they would have been beyond rescue from the beginning as the fire was of this magnitude already prior to the FD arrival. As for training I agree. There are more ways to continue to learn from the mistakes we make on the fireground.

I'm glad that in Holland and other European countries engines carry 2,500 to 4,000 Litres of water and 2 pre-attached lines. Gets the wet stuff on the red stuff within a minute while the rest of the crue set up the external water suply from hydrants or a tanker.

@FDNY8231

Ай бұрын

Can't argue with that ....

@timdennis3300

22 күн бұрын

Same here in Australia, depending on the appliance we have between 2000-4000 liters of water for initial attack whilst the pumpie and any spare crew start to get water setup from a stand pipe, hydrant etc. If we don't have water onto a job with 60 seconds of the truck stopping we're having an extremely bad day.

I have 32 years as a team leader, but if I let this happen, I will be fired immediately. But there is still something to learn from the clips.

@FDNY8231

11 күн бұрын

I agree on the training part. You NEVER stop learning on this job.

Respect to all the firefighters 🚒

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Thanks brother!

Not sure which apparatus was first but truck or engine do have water tanks on them, any where from 500 to 1000 gallons. Should have used tank water while waiting to be hooked up to a hydrant. No need to wait for a water source. Especially in a city setting.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Truck was first and they have no water tank. Must be engine fed.

@JFLORES980

2 ай бұрын

@@FDNY8231 got yeah it was one of those set ups

@davidw7

2 ай бұрын

@@chrishuston1451 These Appalachian cities of PA have ALL VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPT. Some new younger recruits will go on calls. Actually, in PA even Volunteer Fire people need training as the Paid Union ones. Just again, these are all VOLUNTEERS. Many have to go to the firehouse and SUITE-UP. There is no 24-hour manned for instant call in these multiple fire-houses and basically take turns for calls and extra-alarms brings in more and other communities ALL IN THE COUNTY BEING VOLUNTEER. All of them in a small city that is in a depressed former Coal Anthracite Coal Region of Appalachia Pennsylvania. These are poorer cities long past their glory days as we shipped there once prosperous mill jobs overseas or the the sunbelt OVER THEIR BEING UNION TOWNS and that SCOURGE NEVER DIED for Corporate America. Cheap housing here though in old row-home cities dotting Appalachia in PA and this being a former Hard Coal that once fueled home heat and Steel Mills that built our cities in the Northeast.

@25:38 "Shamokin" - the best name for a fire dept ever :D Best spoken with a Sean Connery accent

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Lol

Nice protective gear... white sneakers and orange croc's !

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Fashionable!

@owensweetland342

2 ай бұрын

Allows water to drain without pooling in shoe.

lol was waiting for the mom and kids to start pulling the supply line! LOL Gotta love the vollys

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

All in the family! :)

As a former paid firefighter and volunteer, i appreciate the hardwork. My only issues in this video is the amount of ppl trying to hook up the hose to the base pumper. I'm not sure if they had tank water or not, or a deck gun because that deck gun would've definitely put a good knock on the fire. Once they got water they did knock it down from the outside first before advancing inside. My only other issue is the amount of volunteers showing up without gear, because now commands is limited with manpower so either leave gear in pov or make the trucks before it leaves

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Engine had tank water ... Don't know if they used any of it ... Deck gun was wanted by command prior to arrival, but was OOS on this engine, and they were the first arriving engine.

The know-it-alls came out in force for this video.

@FDNY8231

Ай бұрын

Absolutely .... Hard to keep up.

@LJT7907

Ай бұрын

The first thing all these negative commenters should be doing is saying thank you to the firefighters instead for their service and their hard work that they do and if they want to show how they can do it better feel free to upload a video showing them how to do it better and tell them keep their mouth shut!

@bill-nj6fc

Ай бұрын

@@LJT7907

Must be cool to have a fire dept named Shamokin !

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

This City was named that LONG before any of us were thought of ... I think it's cool! :)

Bright orange Crocs are the best female repellent

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Speaking from experience?

Deck Gun, yesterday! Let's go!

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

It was OOS on the engine ... They did want it!

@turtlebarnessr0248

2 ай бұрын

I’ve said many times that the deck gun is the most underrated and under utilized weapon by many fire departments. You may empty your first due engine tank very quickly (2 minutes +-) but will give you precious time to effect possible rescue and keep the fire at bay until 2nd due can set up hose lines and a good water supply.🇺🇸🚒🐄

@PCFirefighter11

2 ай бұрын

It appears no deck gun on engine 1. Just the connection on top. Either never had it or OOS.

@Firemedic712

2 ай бұрын

@@FDNY8231 Fair enough, I see that now.

Didn't look good in the beginning but ended up checking the fire. Good job boys.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Amen Thanks ...

@04u2cY

2 ай бұрын

@@FDNY8231 it's all good. I'm a firefighter going on 25 + years I have been to fires being the first due engine on 1 room burn out and it turns into cluster fk but when we are first due with multiple calls for fire and turn the block with 2 vacant building fully involved already in the exposures you would think it will be more of cluster fk but it's just the opposite the operation runs so smoothly. One video does not say anything about the fire department if I'm not there it's not for me to say anything I don't see what the IC sees I don't see what the firefighters sees..

My Grandfather was a fireman but he died a few months before I was born, he passed away from lung cancer. Every person who save lives are TRUE HEROES!

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Definitely true heroes.

These folks need to train some more.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Don’t we all …

@RealityTrailers

2 ай бұрын

@@FDNY8231 Apparently, those who claim that others need more training are perfect at whatever they do in life, especially firefighting.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

@@RealityTrailers I would agree!

@SteveWilliams-zp1vg

2 ай бұрын

All firefighter dying from cancer and blame the mayor but not one firefighter wearing scba on fire

@scooby1992

2 ай бұрын

@@SteveWilliams-zp1vg Good point and definitely a consideration , but it looked like they were mostly stood well back and not in smoke . Some had sets on their backs and ready to do though if things developed or it was knocked back enough to go inside .

Chaos

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

As is normal at most incidents ... Although from the comments you'd think everyone does it 100% but these guys ... What a shame.

There's somethin' smokin' in Shamokin.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Ya hadda go there huh? Lol ....

Why did they not get water on that blaze as soon as they arrived? Their delay caused it to get even more established and intense.

@FDNY8231

8 күн бұрын

I don't think it would have made a big difference. Tell us YOUR solution.

@TheContentExchange

8 күн бұрын

@@FDNY8231 It's obvious that pulling pre connects immediately and flowing water is the correct choice while the rest of the manpower gets the supply handled. Seems pretty basic.

@FDNY8231

7 күн бұрын

@@TheContentExchange That I agree with ...

@sirrichardpumpaloaf8154

4 күн бұрын

@@FDNY8231 - Getting water onto any blaze within seconds of arrival is advantageous, at least they’ve actually started to fight it. I see too many of these videos where the FD takes many minutes before water is flowing.

Hey, that girl got the big line hooked before anyone.

@buzzmeachum1855

2 ай бұрын

Woman!

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Completely capable ... My hats off to the ladies ....

That was tough to watch.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Shame for that building ...

Is this open to criticism? Way too many walking around with no packs on. That guy in the beginning could have helped out a little to get the lines stretched instead of watching the other guys work. Would have ran a lot smoother and quicker in the beginning.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Everything is always open to criticism if we want to Monday morning quarterback. Considering the conditions they met on arrival I think they did an excellent job. The first 15 minutes of ANY working fire are always the most hectic, and there are always reasons to train, and do things better. Thanks for the comments.

I was not familiar with this town, what a cool place of Americana. Glad nobody was hurt. I thought it was a great job in a complex situation.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Thanks ...

@mmal7982

2 ай бұрын

@@FDNY8231 Subbed. Cool channel! Greetings from metro Detroit!

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

@@mmal7982 Welcome ... I'd love to come out there sometime and catch some of the fire action. One of my buddies did, and he said it was incredible. I have only been to Michigan one time.

These companies need to drill more.

@FDNY8231

19 күн бұрын

Can't argue with that ...

chaos springs to mind

@FDNY8231

10 күн бұрын

Normally is in the first few minutes.

Loved the video with quick knockdown with ground hose !

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

If they went any slower the fire may have burnt itself out, It was a deck gun knock down on arrival all day long

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Deck gun was out of service ... IMO less than 7 minutes for a knockdown is not bad. Fire was held to building of origin. If their deck gun had been in service there would have been very little fire for me to video as it would've been knocked so in that your are correct.

good coverage

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

great video first time watcher was that a old fire house

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Thanks, Yes it was ... The building was 120 years old, and was the former home of the Liberty Fire Co. #2

Wow! I am going to leave it at Wow! Great video capture!

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Many thanks!

Heeeey, I'm Shamokin here!

@FDNY8231

7 күн бұрын

:>)

Don't American appliances carry water on them as there seems to be no end of videos with US fire agencies having no sense of urgency getting the wet stuff onto the hot stuff. Water out then water in. Pretty basic really. Our trucks have between 2000 and 400 liters of water on board, god for enough time to get water out before getting a standpipe or similar connected.

@FDNY8231

22 күн бұрын

There was 500 gallons of water in a tank on this rig.

@Derekva40

19 күн бұрын

this is not a typical response.. a lot of hesitation and confusion

@rcjr0620

16 күн бұрын

That fire looks like it was really Shamokin!

@azschalter

15 күн бұрын

@@FDNY8231500 gallons should last some time. At least long enough to establish a water supply from a hydrant.

@MrMarkcalland

13 күн бұрын

@@azschalter00 gallons will be gone in a couple minutes

This is why we need high pressure booster lines, fast water on the fire whilst a supply is being set up. But we’d rather continue to fight fire in exactly the same way we did in the 1930’s. That being said these guys did a good job knocking it down pretty darn quickly.

@michaeldomanski9352

2 ай бұрын

a high pressure booster line would not have done anything to a fire of this magnitude. You need 2 1/2 & 3" lines in service or a deck gun master stream to get the BULK of the fire knocked down. There is a reason why departments don't put "booster" reels on rigs anymore......they are ineffective unless you have a small fire ie: that's usually why they are called trash lines.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

@@michaeldomanski9352 Correct! The average booster nozzle is only capable of flowing 30 GPM, and for a fire of this size you need WAY more than that. 2 1/2" smooth bore which they used gives 250-500 GPM ...

With the limited manpower at first, Stretch and operate one line at a time to actually get water flowing. Get in closer with that 21/2. You did good with initial knockdown, keep it going.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Considering? I'd say they did good. We can always train, and strive to do better. but water on the fire in 2 minutes is good. Too bad the deck gun was OOS on that engine or I would've had no fire to video when I arrived as it would've been knocked or been significantly reduced.

@terrenceanderson7966

2 ай бұрын

😢are we watching the same video.. they could have used deck gun to knock down the fire until landlines were ready.. so no I don't see what u see

@richardmeo2503

2 ай бұрын

@@terrenceanderson7966 Yes they could have done that too. But in the video all hands are trying to get water to rig while 2 others are stretching a line. Then 2 others start a second line, a blue one. Get one line going then start the second one. Key principle is to try to control the spread. As video moves between rigs you see a 3d team setup with a line but NO water. Blue line moves past them and goes to the left, meanwhile the Red line reappears and also wants water. Blue line which was the 3d one stretched got the first water at 2:10. Not sure which rig got in first, but that was a textbook Deckgun Op if Engine got in first. (But I don't see a gun on top of rig.)

@richardmeo2503

2 ай бұрын

@@FDNY8231 Yeah like I said they did good. But it is the basics that must be done. Otherwise it all goes to crap.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Deck Gun was out of service ... Wasn't even on the rig.

I can see not going in the ground floor with the amount of fire they had, but I hope a crew went to the upper floors at least for a search!

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Once it was deemed safe to enter they went in from the rear which had access to the 2nd and 3rd divisions.

It was like watching a Three stooges movie.

@RLTtizME

2 ай бұрын

We thought we saw you in the background.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Lol ...

Ironic how the building on fire has a fire department logo on it

@FDNY8231

Ай бұрын

It was an old firehouse which was sold after consolidation of two companies and turned in a winery/restaurant.

Imagine all the shamokin jokes this department has to hear over and over again 😭

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Yeah NOT cool ... :)

@thomasludwig9117

2 ай бұрын

There's somethin smokin in Shamokin.

Looks okay to me. Water supply established. Good knockdown. Multiple lines pulled. Ladder up. No one got hurt.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Right on the money ... First few minutes are always the craziest.

This bunch needs to stick to selling Christmas trees & fire works in the summer.

@FDNY8231

8 күн бұрын

You WOULDN'T say that if it was YOUR property or life at stake.

@blueticecho5690

7 күн бұрын

@@FDNY8231 Having been retired from a fully paid dept for 15 years and my 34 years on the job service qualified me to say what ever when even.. OFD.

That fire was really pushing on arrival. It started in the rear in the kitchen, kitchen fires are always difficult because of accumlated grease etc. There were a lot of factors in this. The building is old and access looked difficult especially in the rear and none from either side exposure. The building became comprised thus your really relegated to an exterior attack. They did well,no apparent extension to either exposure. Sometimes you have to let the primary go, and focus on life and protecting exposures.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Amen brother!

@RaymondTroth-cf3if

2 ай бұрын

My father was a volunteer for 17 years,Chief for 4. He taught me a lot about fires and firefighting. I am not a firefighter. The town I live in has the same conditions with access etc. I know there was some criticism in the comments. I thought I would defend rather than add to it.

Arguably, this is a big cluster fuck. Command yelling through the radio pump operators, not knowing what they’re doing too many Chiefs and not enough firefighters and absolutely no hustle whatsoever Not sure if they are paid or volunteer, but that entire department needs to be retrained.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

While I can't disagree with the too many chiefs comment because in 40 years it always seems to be the case with volunteer departments. We could find fault with ANY dept at ANY fire posted here even paid departments. Having said that let's review a bit shall we. Within TWO minutes of engine (me) arrival water began being placed on the fire with a proper sized line. Knockdown was quick, but overhaul took much longer. I would say the goals were met in that no one was injured, and everyone went home to their families. NO ONE or department is perfect, and as for training? ALL of us should train, and continue to train to keep our skills as sharp as possible. I'd say they did a great job with what they faced. Fire stayed in original fire building and exposures were not damaged. We can critique later the do's, don'ts, didn'ts and shouldn'ts. Have a nice day and thanks for watching.

@billmoran935

2 ай бұрын

I disagree. An 1-1/2 line was not the proper line with that much fire , especially the lower floor. Criticism should not be negative but constructive. Again, in the future, please consider using your tank water with a master stream instead of waiting for hydrant. Furthermore, I saw no attempt at vertical ventilation or more importantly any organized search of upper floors. The National Fire Academy has an enormous amount of information and training available for those serious enough to seek out. I’m not offering advice to embarrass you or anyone else at that Fire. In fact, I applaud everyone of you for caring enough about your community to serve as firefighters. Ben Franklin ( very first Fire Chief ) is quoted as “ Experience keeps a dear school but fools will learn in no other “. Don’t be fools! Learn from this Fire , seek out advice and be safe . God Bless

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

@@billmoran935 The line they used for initial fire attack was not an 1 1/2" ... It was a 2 1/2" with a smooth bore. I think they had every intention of using the Blitzforce they originally stretched but why that never got first use beats me. Things like this just says to me you can never train enough. Even with close to 50 years in the fire service I still train as hard as I can, because the fires aren't stopping, and there seems to be no relief in sight. Thanks for the comments.

That fire is really ShaMokin. LOL I like those 2 older KME engines very nice condition.

@FDNY8231

Ай бұрын

More flame than schmoke lol

Crazy. The video starts and it seems like they don't know what they're doing. Fire's raging out of control, firefighters there but no water going to the fire. Yet when the video finishes, fire is out and lots of surrounding structure saved. Really goes to show you can't judge firefighters right away...gotta let it play out and see how it ends.

@FDNY8231

10 күн бұрын

Amen ... No injuries and everyone went home

@ffjsb

3 күн бұрын

@@FDNY8231 That's a poor standard to judge how well they did.

@FDNY8231

2 күн бұрын

@@ffjsb Judging from your prior comment you must know this department well. What's judging about no one being injured and everyone going home?

@ffjsb

Күн бұрын

@@FDNY8231 You can stand around doing nothing and no one will get injured and everyone will go home... Get the point?? Or you can act like professionals, do your job safely and effectively, and have the same result of no injuries. It should be obvious which is the better choice.

Just a question I can't get any higher than 360p that's no where near even HD I have a 4k set what's up with that??!

@superstarjohnnyecko

2 ай бұрын

Sometimes for me it takes about an hour after it's posted to show higher than 360p for me

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Should up to 4K now as it's FINALLY done processing.

How hard is it to pull a line and charge it in under 2-min.?????????

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

If it's preconnected

@Chris-sac

2 ай бұрын

@@FDNY8231why no preconnects?

@ritirons2726

2 ай бұрын

Following through with the initial action we see… One member stretching the portable monitor. One breaking the first coupling and making the connection to a discharge. And one pump operator at the panel and ready…. 30 seconds and water would be on the fire from the booster tank.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

@@ritirons2726 @thenussbaum44 That would've been nice had it gone that way. It didn't! They stretched that line but it got broke down and never reconnected. at 00:46 you can see the disconnected line laying in the street. The other half got connected to the pump panel and was charged but quickly shut down because it was just spewing water (not seen). The blue 2 1/2" preconnect was the first line stretched that actual put the first water on the fire.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

@@Chris-sac The have preconnects at 1 3/4" and one 2 1/2" preconnect. That's the one they ultimately used to make the initial attack

Just imagine if they had used their tank water upon arrival. What a C.F..

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

The supply line was connected and charged BEFORE the first line was pulled off the engine. No sense at all in even worrying about tank water ...

@ritirons2726

2 ай бұрын

Actually no it’s not. As you turn the corner, at 00:12 you can see the 3” with the portable monitor being stretched. Had the operator been at the pump and ready, that length could have been attached to discharge on the Officer side panel, charged, and been flowing water in less than 30 seconds. Instead, they stretched it into almost perfect position and left it uncharged, with a member WAITING for water while they stretched and started first water on the fire (02:10) from the 2 1/2” and stretched an 1 3/4” as well. Nearly a full two minutes that water COULD have been applied from the tank. So in reality, yes, it did, and does make sense to worry about tank water when someone’s business is being destroyed.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

​@@ritirons2726 While that maybe true that line was not connected or charged till after the blue line came off, and when that line (blue) was charged they had a positive water source. That blitzforce was not charged till later after the fire was almost knocked. However no tank water would've made that line because it's not preconnected and wasn't hooked together and you can plainly see that at the 00:46 mark on the video.

@ritirons2726

2 ай бұрын

@@FDNY8231 As I stated, that line COULD have been connected to a discharge on the pump panel and charged, thus starting the fire attack from tank water utilizing a portable master stream. It does not need to be pre-connected to be placed in service quickly. The portable monitor such as the mercury monitor or the blitzfire is capable of 500 GPM, so if it is big fire, big water they’re thinking then they should have utilized it instead of the 2 1/2”. What was the point of stretching that line first if they weren’t going to use it until later? Intentionally doing so just wasted time and added to the confusion.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

@@ritirons2726 I do NOT disagree with you, however that first line never got connected completely till AFTER they got the blue line operating and by then they had a positive water source so no need for the tank. The optimal would've been hit the hydrant lay in hit it with the deck gun till the water source was established. I would've preferred it that way, but their deck gun was out of service. And I wasn't running those pumps ...

Good job it is always crazy at first and it always sees like guys aren't doing a lot but that is normal it takes a lot to get things up and going firefighting isn't a race so it is nice to go slow and not get hurt especially if they is not one in the building your life worth more trust you me been doing it for 34 years and still on the front line

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

ABSOLUTELY spot on sir ... A+ Thanks for the comments.

@geoffc5415

2 ай бұрын

..like give this fire crew a break...how many actual fires have they had to respond to...2nd of all as volunteers they coming from all a round ..3rd of all their not sleeping with their firetrucks unlike full time members and for my final comment they did a great job 👏 👍 👌

Why wouldn’t the first due engine dump their monitor immediately on arrival? Smoke out botyh the second and third floor windows is a pretty good indicator they’ll need the arial. Why the hesitation?

@FDNY8231

Ай бұрын

Deck gun was out of service ....

Greets from Poland💪👊

@FDNY8231

Ай бұрын

Greetings!

That structure appears to be an old fire station? That’s too bad. We have friends of ours who own one as their primary residence. Their’s still has the fireman pole to slide down from second floor to first floor.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Yes it was the firmer Liberty Hose Co. #2 Firehouse and was 120 years old.

@johnclyne6350

2 ай бұрын

That's too bad! 120 years of history up in flames.

That was a nice flow pattern for smoke. I definitely would not open any windows until I had water on the fire. Opening flow path could have endangered any occupants on floors above fire.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Don't think it mattered in this case because the building was unoccupied on the floors above, and everyone was out on the main floor.

Respect aux pompiers pour leurs dévouement toujours aux coeurs de l action pour sauver les gens et les biens merci a vous les anges gardiens de la ville

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Merci pour vos gentils commentaires.

Organised chaos

@FDNY8231

23 күн бұрын

First few minutes always are ...

@teleyakco

22 күн бұрын

herdin' cats.

Liked, subscribed and shared your video and your channel

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Thank You VERY much!

@NeilM01989

2 ай бұрын

@@FDNY8231 You're very welcome matey 👍🏻

The guy in the blue shirt must be the Safety Officer. Ladder Pipes have been replaced by Tower Ladders (Buckets).

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Nope not the safety officer.

Медленно, и не слаженно. ( не знаю какая у вас там техника, законы, расположение оборудования внутри машины, имеется ли вода на борту, и так далее ) 1. У вас шланг лежит красиво. У нас шланг сложен пополам и смотан блином, лежит на уровне груди. ( удобство доступа, скорость выбора, скорость входа в работу ). Его кидаешь, он катится и разматывается. Оба конца с одной стороны. Один на подключение, со вторым бежишь куда нужно. 2. Неслаженность. Не надо было толпиться, а кидать вторую нитку на охлаждение. 3, Давление с ходу давать в упор тоже нельзя. Кто на подаче стоит должен его дать таким что бы один человек мог удержать. ( у нас в основном водитель ) После наращивать ( по команде, по ситуации, по понимаю коллектива ) У вас впечатление такое, человек 20 на шланге сидит, это беда. И видно - не хватает тренировок.

@FDNY8231

12 күн бұрын

Спасибо за ваши Коментарии!

Thanks for the video. It has everything needet to make a fire service video from the USA entertaining. 😁

@FDNY8231

Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Looked like an old fire station

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

It was ... 120 years old

These guys seem awfully unorganized. Why she was putting her breathing apparatus on, outside of the truck is beyond me. They mount in the seat they ride in! And why are there people walking around in civilian clothes helping? There are plenty of turnouts around!

@FDNY8231

13 күн бұрын

There are some departments that use a clean cab initiative where no scba is stored in the cab. This department isn't one of them, but there are some reasons why that might occur.

@fyrdoc

10 күн бұрын

I have been doing this going on 33 years, I put my bottle on outside of the truck, allows me to get my own perspective on the fireground and to "slow" down my crew. I use the time to get them over the initial adrenalin rush, especially since we dont see many fires.

They pour water into the second floor, but no one can see where the fire is burning and where to put out the fire.

@FDNY8231

11 күн бұрын

They made entrance to the 2nd & 3rd floors from the rear.

You guys did a outstanding job well done

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Thank You ....

i would think you would want a search of the upper floors for life and extension. Two engines nose to nose, why not make a knock with the deck guns while you establish water supply

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Everyone was out of the building per pd on arrival. One engine the other was a rear mount ladder. Deck Gun was out of service.

So what do they do the building after that. Must be a heck of a demo sandwiched between two other buildings. Can't imagine it's salvageable.

@FDNY8231

21 күн бұрын

Since the investigation into the fire is ongoing the building is just secured and boarded up with plywood, etc so no access is allowed till they determine what will be done with it. They could demolish the building without too much problems I believe, but I'm hoping they'll save it and restore it. Thanks for the comments.

A few learning points for the responding department in this video.

@FDNY8231

17 күн бұрын

Never too old or serving too long to learn something and from our mistakes.

Jesus! You’ve finally got a knock on the first floor. Get in there and put the thing out! Oh, and while you’re just standing there, go VES the floors above.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

There was no one in the building. The upper floors were not used. What does Jesus have to do with anything?

@scooby1992

2 ай бұрын

@@FDNY8231 Also it is probably not a good idea or necessary to send in Firefighters into a floor above a fire , especially as the building was unoccupied .

Great catch D.Y read some of the comments, though I am not a firefighter or based in the US, but here in the UK, I have watched many videos from your buddy JJ, and have a grasp on ways crews operate, but for the fact that there was a line in use and another guy waiting for water on the deck gun, who could only though his hands up in amazement and they pushed the line over, the charged line should have been moved and the deck gun brought into use... stay safe pal and thanks again

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Thanks Brother ... JJ is a great fella, and I'm so glad he does well. Unfortunately things on the fireground don't always go as preplanned or the way you figured they may. I have found that usually the first 15 minutes are a cluster till you work out all the kinks (Literally). Having said that in this case the outcome is the best that could be achieved in that the fire went out, and everyone went home. Take care my friend. GSTK

The first thing to do,is put water in the fire,US fire engines carry at least 4 minutes constant water fire fighting.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

That depends on the size tank, line and gallonage of nozzle, and pressure. My 500 gallon tank last right around 2 minutes with 2 small 1 3/4" lines at 95GPM.

Did anyone do a search of the inside... someone should vent thst roof..get that stick in the air.. what a mess.. hope everyone got out of the building. No search 😞.. No venting😮

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

You much like the average person probably only watched seven of the 32 minutes of the video (according to analytics). If you had watched further you'd have seen the rear of the fire building operations which INCLUDED entry, search (No one was in from the beginning as PD advised) and venting.

Great knock down guys! Well done

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Thanks

They contained it to the one structure….no one got hurt or killed. I’d say they accomplished their goal

@FDNY8231

11 күн бұрын

I would agree ... Might not've been pretty, but they rarely are. It's a dirty job. Thanks!

Coolest spot for a LDH INTAKE I’ve ever seen.

@FDNY8231

Ай бұрын

I believe it goes right into the tank.

Do they or don't they carry water on the vehicles. The building was obviously beyond internal saving but at least use the water you've got whilst finding a hydrant. Seemed to lack competent leadership. Fairly quick knock down once water was on the fire. Whatever the faults if it wasn't for volunteers and professionals. Situations like this could be a lot worse, so thanks must go to the men and women who risk their lives. Eden the UK has volunteer crews in country areas.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for comments mate. I wonder if your vollies are like the Benny Hill Fire Dept.? Lol Yes they did have tank water on the engine. Just no deck gun as it was out of service.

@markjeffers1341

2 ай бұрын

bull crap, the uk does not have volunteers, there on call/retained and they can paged to the station for a call, they DO NOT turn up to a call using own vehicles and deffo dont turn up in own clothes and start pulling hose lines. second point, the uk as standard check their kit regularly- at the start of their shift or the on call guys at drill night and more often in many cases, if kit is not working then you get it sorted and if not it goes out of service. I appreciate fully volunteers as I was and am one and can honestly say this bs about volunteer training and equipment is total B,S, if you cant do the job as you should then dont as people will die.

@wendelpfefferkorn2940

2 ай бұрын

The ladder truck showed up first way before any engine ever got there.

Are there any depts left that use pre connects? Saves so much time.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

You obviously didn't WATCH the video too closely. The BLUE line (2 1/2") that came off the REAR right side in the first 1 minute IS a preconnected line. It was the first line in operation and to put water on the fire. :o) In the video you see them take the whole line off and the officer gets up and looks and see's it preconnected and carries on.

@Chris-sac

2 ай бұрын

@@FDNY8231why’d it take over 2 minutes to start flowing water?

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

@@Chris-sac I don't have the answer to that question. You have to ask the pump operator. You seen what I shot, and it leans neither left or right and is unbiased.

Where's the deck gun?

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

It was out of service ... Command wanted it.

Doesn’t that Engine have tank water? I can’t tell if it has a deck gun either. Did you guys perform any primary searches? Why go defensive so soon? Not criticizing but giving you some food for thought.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Tank water, Yes ... Deck gun, OOS, Searches, No one in the building per pd, and occupants ... Due to size and volume of fire they chose to knock the bulk down then made entry.

@jackjfb8439

2 ай бұрын

I'm wondering if they were saving the tank water for the parade...😂

@wendelpfefferkorn2940

2 ай бұрын

You have to see the other video from the beginning. The ladder truck was the first truck to show up for quite a long time. No pump no tank

Man hätte eventuell noch mehr Drehleitern einsetzen können 🤣🤣🤣

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Insgesamt wurden 4 Leitern verwendet.

Its easy to be critique when watching film. I can tell you what mike tyson done wrong boxing while watching a film but that doesnt mean i want to step in the ring with the man. 😊

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Cool way to put it.

At ease keyboard warriors…. I’m sure anybody can pick apart anybody’s fire after the fact. I remember that firehouse when I was a kid! Classic looking! I was up there and just drove by it the week after Easter. What a shame.

@mike617

2 ай бұрын

I would usually agree about the key board warriors but they had a hydrant feed before a line stretched? Lol

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Haaaa They are ALL fired up now ... No stopping them when they get going. I wish they'd watch more than the average 7 minutes of the video as it answers a whole lot more of the story than just the first few minutes of setup and initial operations. That was also my favorite city firehouse.

'Shamokin' That's a fun name for a FD/Any other fire service agency 😂😅

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

They really don't have a choice now .. They've had it 185 years now since March 1, 1835.

This might be a long shot but: the guy in jeans,teeshirt, white BB cap and a fire radio, in the smoke, telling guys how to set up a hose line, bet he's a senior company officer. If I ever pulled up and saw that, Hey, BB cap guy, go stand on the sidewalk across the street, I'll deal with you later.

@FDNY8231

13 күн бұрын

Hehe ... How bout if hypothetically he's the boss boss? More senior than the senior company officer ...

@matthewnewmann8555

12 күн бұрын

​@@FDNY8231he should have faith in his crews.

@FDNY8231

12 күн бұрын

@@matthewnewmann8555 I totally agree!

No water in the tank? More than 6 guys to tie in to a hydrant?

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Don't know where you saw that ... They had a positive water source in like 30 seconds in ... I guess 6 guys did good.

@Chris-sac

2 ай бұрын

@@FDNY82312:09 to start flowing water.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

@@Chris-sac I agree ... how long is 1 minute 39 seconds?

Why does it take ages to put water on the fire? Don't they have water on board of those vehicles?

@martinedwards7360

14 күн бұрын

in the Uk , our fire depts vehicles all carry water, they would have applied water to that fire within 5 minutes of arrival, and not faff about messing around with hoses, while the building burns down. There could have been person inside that building? US fire depts need to get vehicles with water on board.

@joop1991

14 күн бұрын

@@martinedwards7360 We also have water onboard in the Netherlands. Normally 2 firefighters will start putting water on the fire as soon as possible whilst 2 others prepare the hoses and fire hydrants to take water in if necessary.

@FDNY8231

14 күн бұрын

This unit has 500 gallons of water in an onboard tank. Uncertain if they used any of it on the fire or waited for hydrant water.

@stevegannon7924

14 күн бұрын

@@joop1991 Most American fire pumping apparatus have between 500 and 1000 gallons in their tanks. My agency have 750 each. The fireground tactics are up to their agencies policies and commanders. We would pull hose and hit the fire immediately and use the water we have to try to knock it down....if we empty the tank before we can establish a water supply, so be it. We would expect to at least be able to knock it down enough to be safe to make an entry. But each agency, their training and capabilities are different.

@virus05

11 күн бұрын

@@martinedwards7360 There is water, but they must be supplied with additional water, so there is constant water, otherwise in how many minutes will the car run out of water, and then what do we do without water.

appareil photo Thank you for your work, but sorry... just an intervention in the form of a question: Where is the safe distance or starting position for trucks in the event of a fire or explosion?!

@FDNY8231

Ай бұрын

Best guess from my years of vast experience. About 1/2 block or more. Do we tend to figure that in when responding in? NO! We always want to be as close as is safe enough to get.

@DjamilaRahai

Ай бұрын

votre appareil photo I thank you very much for this humility and for this answer...but I also have 23 years of experience in the same field. The method of tactical response must be applied after the general history of operations. It begins with identifying the position of the trucks in the intervention for the safety of the interveners and the trucks

Anything happening in the rear? "We have 1 line stretched, No manpower, Were doing all we can"

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

If you watched longer than 9 minutes you'd have your answer without me saying anything.

@kerryshambach2220

2 ай бұрын

@@FDNY8231 I was quoting the video.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Ahh I get ya now ... They had one engine in the rear and limited manpower that's the reason for him saying that to advise command. They sent the 2nd Alarm assignment to the rear to assist him which is on the video ...

Beautiful truck, clean,new but equipment mean to be too long to start and be operational

@FDNY8231

9 күн бұрын

Thanks for the comments!

I hate when they turn water on the hose...shut it off ..turn it on again shut it off ...turn it on again ..... Leave the water on and knock down the fucking fire.

@RLTtizME

2 ай бұрын

You are so manly.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

You ever try and reposition a charged 2 1/2" hand line with the water ON? It's VERY difficult, and much easier to just shut the line down for a few seconds.

Unbelievable how fast it was spreading. What darn shame. Blessings to all. The guy in the blue t-shirt needs a uniform and helmet. Is he a firefighter??? So sorry for the owners. 😞😢❤

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comments ... Shame 120 year old former firehouse ...

Jesus saves

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Amen brother ....

1”3/4 line up the stairs to the 2nd floor as soon as the first floor knocked down a bit?

@FDNY8231

15 күн бұрын

That line came in from the rear, and one to the 3rd division too.

what is a Snow Emergency Route ?

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Whenever a snow emergency is declared no vehicles can on that road without tire chains, and local vehicles can't park there during the emergency.

@antwonstewart3457

2 ай бұрын

To piggyback. It is also a route in which the local residents and any emergency services can take should any and all other routes or roads be block. The emergency route is one that must and generally should be clear. Road dimensions are usually suitable for equipment and emergency vehicles of different sizes to pass and utilize the road well.

That woman knew her shit!? 👍

@FDNY8231

Ай бұрын

Yep!

With a wish that there would be no emergency calls and that as many people as possible would return to work safe and sound.

@FDNY8231

11 күн бұрын

Been my wish since 1976, and has yet to come true ...

Thought they were filming a Tom &Jerry show

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Jerry always wins in the end ...

Don't worry the Bunker Hill gang is here.

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

👍🚒👍

All those people running around and they can't get one line in operation..very unorganized..

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

Go figure .... If they had you wouldn't be able to comment from your armchair. Things do not always go as planned on the fireground. First few minutes of any fire are the most hectic. Give them a break or come help out. :)

@RLTtizME

2 ай бұрын

Why a re you people always compelled to criticize?

Wow this has to be the worst ladder response ever. Should called in for a tower truck so the nozzle can be aimed properly. Got two ladder trucks that are useless and blocking access onsite and dumping assloads of water into holes instead of one fire

@FDNY8231

2 ай бұрын

You must have missed Tower 54 ... In any case they are 15 Miles away, and take minimum 25 minutes give or take to get there. So you do what you can with what you have. By the time that tower ladder arrived the fire was pretty much knocked and overhaul was in progress. The city used to have a tower ladder but they opted for just the ladder when they bought the KME.