I would like to explain this fire to my friends who live outside of Japan. (by Google translation) I'm not from the area shown in this video. This building is an old wooden house, probably built in the early 1900s. The fire resistance of the building at the time of construction was extremely low, and fire spreads very quickly to structural members such as main columns and beams, putting the building itself at risk of collapse quickly. Most of the firefighters featured in the video are volunteer firefighters. (You can tell from the fact that you are not carrying SCBA on your back) The extremely small number of public fire department personnel indicates that this is a rural Japanese town with a small population. In the case of a fire like this, the general strategy is to surround and attack the building where the fire broke out, without entering the building, taking into account the strength of the military and the fire resistance of the building. There appear to be many volunteer firefighters and nozzles in this sparsely populated area, but they appear to be gathering after receiving information about the fire from several very far-flung villages.

No aerial ladder trucks, no tower trucks, no Snorkels or Deluge trucks! Only brave fire brigade workers with ground hoses to battle this blaze. These men and women need better apparatus!

@glennlee716

Ай бұрын

In the states, sometime we use the term "surround and drown ", but I guess in Japan they use "surround and drown from the ground" 😂

@OldLordSpeedy

Ай бұрын

In most rual area without skyscrapers higher 50 meters they do not have this stuff. They use "ladders" only, but here ladders at the house are too near on the fire. With enough pressure do you can sprayed the water high enough but you can see in video if the maximum pressure arrived. They go from hydrant near (direct at the right burning house) far and far away (later see at right side street and left side streets) the water hoses. The hydrants are inside the streets - so you not see a snorkel same in U.S.A. outside the earth.

@Belchmaster41

Ай бұрын

in JP, that's all they have unfortunately 😕

@xheralt

Ай бұрын

Even something like a classic US pumper, with a "deck gun" nozzle, would have been useful!

@roberttraylor1392

Ай бұрын

nailed it

雨が降ってるのに、屋根を突き抜けるくらいに炎の勢いが、凄すぎる・・・💧

@johngoglia-gh7ql

Ай бұрын

No hydrant water pressure. No ladder pipes??? Any interior attack?

@ajaybhagwani8155

Ай бұрын

🇨🇰

こんなに水かけてるのになんで消えないのだろう、と思う方は素晴らしい着眼点です。炉に例えると、炉の中で高熱になった材料から可燃ガスが出て煙突へ向かい、煙突を出る時に空気と触れて激しく炎を上げる。この部分、つまり煙突の外側に水をいくらかけても消えないですよね。大都市の消防から防ぎょ戦術が見直されています。

@ajaybhagwani8155

Ай бұрын

🤩😘🤗😍😎

@user-nv1qi9tx1c

Ай бұрын

なんか真ん中へんの２本のホースが水量ショボいのと火元に放水するきあるのか❓って見えるんだけど。

@user-lo1kf9qo2v

4 күн бұрын

@@user-nv1qi9tx1cそれは仕方ないでしょう。

この現場が消防署より遠ければ、消防団が先に出動になる事があります。 私の地域でも、そうなっております。

@user-vn5nr8fy8c

Ай бұрын

お前の地域はどうでもいい

@ajaybhagwani8155

Ай бұрын

🇦🇨

The water pressure looks horrible. I get more water pressure out of my garden hose. No ladder truck? You have to get up in the air and spray water downward to try and get control of it.

@wilhelminavanderhorn

2 ай бұрын

Yes, I am also surprised that they don't have ladder trucks over there. Their equipment looks a bit old.

@JohnDoe-es5xh

2 ай бұрын

Did you count the active hoses?

@kevinp7620

2 ай бұрын

@@JohnDoe-es5xh yes I did count the hoses and the number they were using was crazy, plus all except one was focused on the front, there was one hose off to the right but no attack from the rear of the building. Looked like there was no fire fighting management in place.

@robertg6018

2 ай бұрын

Of course they're going to have some water pressure issues when running 15+ hand lines. Apparently you aren't very educated about Japan, as most streets are very narrow and ladder trucks can not fit or navigate streets safely. They are usually only found in the biggest cities.

@robertg6018

2 ай бұрын

@@wilhelminavanderhorn Educate yourself before making stupid comments. Actually most of those rigs are newer. They "look" older, simply because they are manufactured differently than in the US. Most streets are too narrow for ladder trucks to safely navigate, They are only found into the biggest cities.

Unfortunately this is a common occurence in Japan. The houses, mainly of timber construction, are very close together thus minimizing exposure and limiting fire spread is very difficult. The firefighters do a great job nonetheless.

@johncford3957

2 ай бұрын

It also didn't look like an interior attack was carried out in the house on the right, pull the second floor ceiling and hit the roof fire from below.

こんなに水をかけてるのにどうしてこんなに燃えることが出来るんだろう、 って素人了見ですがいつも不思議に思います。ほんとに火事は怖いです。

@user-bz6rz7yb4m

2 ай бұрын

It all depends on what is burning inside of the building that's making the hard to control

@JohnDoe-wj8dv

Ай бұрын

Volume of water must be more then the heat being put out by the fire. There is alt if fire and those are small handlines

井波は場所によって古い木造家屋が隣家と隙間なくひしめき合っている地区もあるから火災は怖いですよね。

先月我が家も 漏電で 1部屋のごく一部だけですが 燃えてしまいました😭 火事ってひとごとのように思っていましたが、いつ自分ちも火事になるかわかりません。 とても落ち込みましたが、当日笑いながら消火活動見てる人や野次馬を見て さらに落ち込みました。 そこへきて 自分ちの火事が他人によって 動画にされてるなんて😰 このお家の方が見てませんように。。

@jamesaddie4895

Ай бұрын

Nothing like reliving the worst day of your life.

What's with the fluctuating water pressure? Who's in charge? Where's the water cannon? Not a criticism, just curious how the Department is organized.

以前にネットで　その住所周辺から何かを買ったことがある

先週、城端線を全線乗ったんですが、砺波平野の散村風景を見ていました。火災でも延焼させない工夫と思ったものです。

炎に水かけても、燃えてる物体にぶっかけないと消えないですもんね

どうしても、炎🔥や煙に放水しがちですが、確実な燃焼物体への大量注水が大事ですね。

It seems that many countries outside the USA don't use (or rarely use) ladder trucks with master streams. If you look at around the 17:00 mark as the camera pans the scene, I counted 14 hand lines (and I bet there are more on the rear side to the left of our view).

@dragonsong1023

Ай бұрын

If they had a ladder truck, in this case, look at all the overhead wires, it wouldn't be any use.

@kathleenschiller2767

Ай бұрын

your right. They better get ladder trucks. Fire engine pressure is not enough even though with all the hand lines(21/2 inch? couldn't suppress the advancement of fire.

@danielr3933

Ай бұрын

Does every department in the United States have ladder trucks?

@Big-O43

Ай бұрын

@@dragonsong1023 You have know clue

@OldLordSpeedy

Ай бұрын

It is a rual area and the Japan fire fighters are a part of a military service. Mean they use over the country the same types of fire vehicle with ground pump, water tanker, pump machine, water stuff, ladder, driver and pressure team (2 man) and instructor. Driver and instructor are rescue team with 2nd pressure. They are very effectively and efficiently teams. Every fire vehicle can use in every position - only ground pump to line, line to pump to line, line to pump to fire figher line, line to pump to water sprayer on truck. So they need only the driver as pump operator and 1 and 1/2 team is free to fight the fire - so from two trucks have 3 fully operated teams! Most fire fighter can use in every four position on every truck. They have some "only driver" how management the pumps only and public civilian fire fighter (mostly in white vests with white helmets) from the national civil guard system (work at earthquake, tsunami, etc.). This system doesn't exists in U.S.A. - only in Europe and Asia. In Germany it is named THW (Technisches Hilfswerk) and of course part of the government. Same in U.S.A. most old houses are made in wood only what can burn heavy with many heat. So they saved first the environment after it was clear that they can't rescued all three wood houses.

裏手側にも家があるのかな？

もう少し消防団の車両位置を離した方がいいかもしれませんね！

雨降ってて放水しても凄い勢いで燃えてるな…恐ろしい

Hand line streams may not be the best but one thing I appreciate is that they understand the important of going after the fire with water....not standing around like many departments with millions of dollars worth of equipment and have maybe 2 handlines in operations! Great job firefighters!!!

延焼を止める事が消火の基本です。 古き時代は消火用の水が無いのが当たり前だったので隣の家屋を迅速に破壊する事が被害拡大をさせない必要最小限の作業で現代でも変わりありません。 火災地震保険に入ってないなど　あまりにも知識不足であり消火活動のプロに意見する行為は自分が行動してからする事です。 隣家は燃えて無くなるか、水没状況で再建築以外の選択肢が無い事は不可避。 状況判断できないのであれば意見しないでください。

日本の悪い所で都会と田舎で消防力に差がありすぎる。

瓦に水掛けても消えないと思うが？

we use dawn liquid dish soap in replace of CLASS foam.

Question, is all the water coming from the trucks because I don't see fire hydrants.?

なんだかなあ、と思う消火方法。早い段階から二階の窓を開けて水を入れないからこうなる。

消防車の水もポンプ性能や水利に左右されるのがよくわかる。

They certainly needed water at the rear, and at least two elevated aerial devices

Gives a whole new meaning to "surround and drown". These volunteers did a damn nice job and a smart job by not trying to go in and fight the fire but instead attack it defensively and keep it from spreading to other buildings. My hat's off to their hard work and dedication.

I can't believe a fire of such magnitude and duration not a single aerial device???

これかなり消防集まってますね、？出動

No fire ladder truck?

@time2fly2124

2 ай бұрын

i'm always wondering why japan doesnt have tower trucks, is this how do they fight fire on a second floor? just point some hand lines at it and hope for the best?

@andyye2571

2 ай бұрын

@@time2fly2124 I think this is due to the powerline on-scene blocking.

ざっと見た所20栓位で水入れてたと思いますが大変な火災でしたね　自分も複数件の1日掛かりの消火活動経験はありますのでホント皆さん大変でしたね　ご苦労様でした🙇

@user-ii5nh9vc2h

Ай бұрын

消火栓も遠くから引っぱらないと圧が下がるからホースも何本も使い後で洗うのも大変でしょうね!!

What’s with the water pressure management? I’m so confused.

@jonathanwolf632

2 ай бұрын

the reason why the water pressure was low on some of the hoses is because there water tanks on the truck where low on water and they didn't have a hydrant to connect to for a constant water supply or the truck only had a low pressure water pump because it was from a volunteer fire department which does not have the best equipment like the city run fire departments

@tompetersen-kw6uk

2 ай бұрын

@@jonathanwolf632 thank you for the explanation

@OldLordSpeedy

Ай бұрын

​​@@jonathanwolf632 The pumps are good and often the same in every fire vehicle truck. But if you use from this pump more as 2 water lines to the fire fighters the pressure can sinking or when the hydrant have less pressure. In opposite to the U.S.A. where every hydrant is independent in Asia or Europe all hydrants in streets connected between with big water lines - so that you have every 200 m a hydrant. If you then connect to near to the other the water flow and pressure goes down. So they switched to a more far away place or other fire vehicle truck - what resulted in low water pressure for one minute. Specially at rual areas do you found open hydrants too, small rivers or lakes. Do you hear all the time sirens from other fire vehicle trucks how stay more and more far away and the fire fighter build new water line chain from different streets with different pumps and hydrants. The typical fire vehicle truck can store water for around five minutes spray water with one fire fighter line - with two it is just the half of this time. With put two or three vehicles in line do you can make better pressure and water storage too. The Japanese government not have voluntary fire vehicle trucks. All fire fighter are part of the Japanese military. The structure and stations are all the same around Japan - some places are different (islands, big cities(Tokyo, Osaka)) only. Some rural places have from the Japanese civil service extra fire vehicle trucks (see last place with earthquake in January as example) but they not directly "voluntary" same in South Korea, Thailand, Italy, or Germany.

@evanstauffer4470

Ай бұрын

@@jonathanwolf632 Do you know this for a fact or are you just guessing? How much water you have in tank has nothing to do with pressure - until you run out. Trying to "save" water while fighting a fire is guaranteed to be a losing proposition.

@Belchmaster41

Ай бұрын

in most prefectures, hydrants aren't always available; let alone: the amount of potholes on city streets-even at Station HQ

Great work, this is a successful fire containment and shows the importance of volunteers responding timely.

署隊より消防団体の方が火点に近い位置に部署してますね

@yonaosiningen

Ай бұрын

それは先に着いたからでしょうね。 本職の人は先着した消防団に対して放水の指導と言うか指示をしてさらに奥深くまで突っ込んでいきます。

@user-zi8jl2fp9p

Ай бұрын

@@yonaosiningen 様、私消防団員ですがいつも火災現場に着くのが遅い分団なので中継送水ばかりでして

@yonaosiningen

Ай бұрын

@@user-zi8jl2fp9p このご時世、仕方のない事だと思います。 実際、我々の団も、休日を除けば時間がかかります😓💦

@user-mt1tc4lw9q

Ай бұрын

火事は怖い。。

右側3本の放水が細いのは筒先の違いですか？それとも水源？ 左側の8線の水量と大分差が有るように思えますよね～、ただ、うちらの辺でこんだけの水量確保は難しいですね～参考にさせて頂きます、お疲れ様です

この火災の出火原因は何だったのですか。?

The fire truck that arrived at about 20:34 is what turned the fight in their favor I think.

@rtrtrt55

2 ай бұрын

there seems to be many of those in Japan - even in downtown Tokyo - operated by volunteers - equipped with some hose, some pike poles, maybe an axe or two, and a portable pump to draft from a cistern

@brucegordon4992

2 ай бұрын

@@rtrtrt55 Cisterns? Maybe like in San Francisco and also for earthquakes?

@rtrtrt55

2 ай бұрын

@@brucegordon4992 - www.tfd.metro.tokyo.lg.jp/eng/ts/sa/data/2023/fire_service.pdf - lots of info about Tokyo FD here - pg 15 has info on the volunteers - we estimate there are close to 1,000 volunteer fire stations in Tokyo - [ for the map on page 4 - "fire station" typically has 2 engines, 1 ladder, 1 rescue, 1 ambulance, and 1 battalion chief - "fire station branch" has 2 engines and 1 ambulance - those are the paid guys ]

@rtrtrt55

2 ай бұрын

@@brucegordon4992 - here is a Tokyo volunteer station with a cistern right in front of the station door - maps.app.goo.gl/TBjnuwE1fTnUD2Gm6 - cant find any tally of hydrants and cisterns online in english yet - you can search this map for 'cistern' - there are approx 12 hits - www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1Sedmq1BucK5nj-OO-jslKUyNcC8&usp=sharing

@njarb1

2 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣 🙌

何時も思う。火は生きている。勢い付いたら止まらない。

@user-zq5ye1tv8s

Ай бұрын

だからなんですか

@kota8479

Ай бұрын

@@user-zq5ye1tv8s 勢い付いた火はな、放水じゃ消えねーんだよ。だから、怖えーってことよ

They sure fight FIRE different than we do in the US where are the TOWER LADDERS

Great job. One hell of an attack. I have never seen so many fire hoses in action. How about getting a few ladder trucks?

Where da RAC at?

@paulgurski182

Ай бұрын

There da RAC at! RAC-3 from the boogie-down Bronx.

They seem to have 2 problems .... 1, Water pressure seemed low, And 2, NO aerial ladder apparatus.

why does it look like the water pressure is weak

怖いですね、火災は、あっという間にひろがてしまうから

天井が焼け落ちると室内の可燃物に一気に火が移るから急激に燃えますね。

関係無いけど、右の家の一階は全部入口なのかよ😮

中に入って水出さないと消えないよねー

わ、火事は怖い❗

There is no water pressure sufficient to fight this fire. No aerial platform or ladder pipe, they may not even have such equipment!!

田舎の ちかくです。怖い

@xfxfl6696

2 ай бұрын

ここは何処の場所ですか？

@user-yq6ql8jt7g

2 ай бұрын

@@xfxfl6696

Notice that this all could be prevented if they spray water directly to where the fire is spreading so that the other buildings wont be affected, but they are spraying at the same place

Anyone else notice the sense of urgency these firefighters have. Every single one of them running to complete a task, the only time you see American firemen run is to the canteen!

@fullsalvo2483

Ай бұрын

American fire departments have tower ladders and would've beaten this thing down within 5 minutes of its arrival, assuming good water supply

@azul8811

Ай бұрын

Unfortunately, that "sense of urgency" didn't seem to produce any noticeable effect on the eventual outcome.

@24YOA

Ай бұрын

Running doesn't put fires out. Water on fire does.

10～15メートルぐらいの梯子車あれば消火方法も変わってくるのかな？ 消防車の上から放水するだけでも違うのかな？ って素人的には思います。

Very low water pressure.

立派な大きな お家が。。。 全焼しましたね 昔の作りは 燃えやすいのでしょう。。。 どなた様も お怪我無ければ と思います。

Washing the outside does not put out the fire on the inside!

現在の設備でも火はすぐに消えないのに江戸時代とかどうしてるんだろうと思って調べたら、周りの家を壊してそれ以上燃え広がらないようにしてたらしい 水すら使ってなかったとは思わなかった

@ilovejazz207

Ай бұрын

現在の消防団の先祖が町火消しと呼ばれた集団なのですが構成メンバーはほとんどが大工でした。 その為建物を解体するのも早く効果的な消火方法だったと思われます。 江戸時代にも一応送水ポンプがありましたが実用的ではなかった様です。

@kawasakiifushi

Ай бұрын

破壊消防ですね。

@ajaybhagwani8155

Ай бұрын

🇬🇧

@genji4812

Ай бұрын

破壊活動、類焼防止が基本です！　手前の筒先３口はの放水はほとんど無駄です！ 裏手からの筒先部署に変えてください、

Turntable ladder? No, thank you.

南砺市、多い。明日から用水路、水止めです。気をつけましょう！

Someone should tell these guys that you have to get water on the fire in order to put it out.

That continuing siren would drive me insane listening to it the entire time of the incident 🤪🤪🤪

一丸になって、冷やす作業と消す作業､効率と合理。

Não adiantou nada jogarem água o fogo 🔥 está destruindo toda a casa 😮

高い位置から消火したくても梯子車が無ければ難しいですね。

黒煙😨 ヤバいです😓

海外の動画だとホース担いで中に突入していくけど、ここではそういう事しないんですね。

@user-kx5rz7mp4z

Ай бұрын

消防団は酸素ボンベを持って無いので、入る事が出来ません。消防団の役目は本職のサポート兼初期消化です。本職は酸素ボンベ持ってるので、突入できます。

thats called a chinese fire drill.

I'm not seeing the equipment such as in America or Europe. I'm genuinely curious o regarding haw Japan fights fire. Surely they learned from 1945.

Even though countries are all bery different, fire is the same no matter where you are. This one is a bad one.

Why not use foam(nd150) mix with water,fast way to stop it.

@kathleenschiller2767

Ай бұрын

out of date(foam)

@cikbjan5231

Ай бұрын

@@kathleenschiller2767 compare to this situation too long to clear it,maybe its out of date but airport still use it(other fire department too)look for situations.

@georgecoons6872

Ай бұрын

we use dawn liquid soap detergent. 30 gallon tank. just as good and cheaper.

路上からじゃ消えんよ。。。

No tower company and no masks no attack

どこですか

They need a higher ladder to fight the fire from the top

Q mal apunteteria😢

なんでシエンタはわざわざ停まってるの？

Every fire eventually goes out!

家家防火人人平安，消防員辛苦了。

Waar zijn de ladderwagens????….dit is kansloos…

@sailorgerard

2 ай бұрын

Ja, en waarom spuiten ze de achterkant niet?? Dat is waar de grote vlammen zijn.

@wilhelminavanderhorn

2 ай бұрын

Ik zit me hier ook over te verbazen.

They are losing that battle they need more water in the back of the building where most of the fire is.

Proper training required

내부에서 불타는데 지붕에만 물을뿌리니 ᆢ 탈것다태우고 ᆢ 잘못된진화방식

@Fukuroi-Fire

Ай бұрын

は？

Where are they're ladders? And where is the water pressure? Mind you with all those overhead wires a ladder won't be easy to set up safe

なかなか消えない物なんだ

すごい口数で制圧

Fighting fire is not a joke

消防団は延焼防止！　本隊がいる時は支援消火！　無線で指示されてるんですよ〜！

Lack of water pressure and no ladder trucks

田舎の消防車、何で水が細いの？

Seperti menyiram tanaman .

They need bigger hoses 2 1/2

God bless the fearless firefighters

本当に火事は怖いですね。すべてを消し去る！消防士の方々に頭が下がります。

This is almost laughable, no ladder trucks and almost zero water pressure.

No aerial appliances? Master streams?

こういう場合って火元を消すより燃え移りを防ぐの方が優先なのでな？

@user-eb5fo7qu9g

Ай бұрын

その通りですが、こういった古い木造建築の場合は簡単に倒壊してしまうので、その危険を排除するための放水も必要になります。火元の火勢が衰えない状況では、いくら隣家へ放水し続けたところで燃え移りを防ぐのは難しいですし、動画の中盤以降は画面左側から集中放水しているように、右側の建物を諦めて収めようとしてますね。

@user-vk5wl9eh5c

Ай бұрын

@@user-eb5fo7qu9g なるほど！😃

Why is the attack only on the one side? The flames in the back are getting no attention!

@Patricia-xj7lx

Ай бұрын

That's what I thought too

Don't you have air tanks and masks for your firemen there ? Men with hoses going inside might have helped here a lot !

@davidcarroll829

Ай бұрын

I don't mean to criticize you at all, you had 7 hoses on the front of the building pretty fast and even New York City fire department might have 2 by then !

@davidcarroll829

Ай бұрын

Wow 8 hoses on left hand building trying to save it ! You would never see that in the USA !