I’m not sure I’m emotionally ready to watch this pre 2020 conversation between these two innocent boys.

@3DPrintedTabletop

3 жыл бұрын

It's wonderful hearing you talk about 3D printing like this actually (and seeing all the minis you actually HAVE printed since then)!

@3DPrintedTabletop

3 жыл бұрын

Also wonderful to see the shift in games you're playing, and thus crafting you're doing, lately too

@andrewmalecha3748

3 жыл бұрын

@@3DPrintedTabletop I laughed that you said not to 3d print trees yet one of the big reasons I bought your Lost Adventures set last week was for the the trees. They are awesome and I have the last one printing right now.

@3DPrintedTabletop

3 жыл бұрын

Oh believe me...all of the reasons why Jeremy listed for NOT crafting trees are why I just print mine. We talked about it, but got cut from the final video (we filmed for about an hour in real life). Printed trees are pretty much my favorite at this point too - the number of times my kids have dropped them. They've survived it all :D Still, that being said: I acknowledge my bias. When you're a hammer, the world is a nail, and that's why I love talking about stuff like this. :)

@andrewmalecha3748

3 жыл бұрын

@@3DPrintedTabletop I actually started watching Black Magic Craft before your channel so it was nice to see the collaboration. It was well presented why you would either print or craft. There is a time and a place for both sides.I think Black Magic Craft's bias came out a little more in the video but that is because he has the passion for the crafting. There is nothing wrong with that, his stuff is amazing. I thought the column discussions really showed the reality of things. Building 8 columns is simple cheap and cool to do, but building 32 is agonizing and will never get done even though he wants them.

dudes. this is super useful.

@jeremiahbachmann3901

3 жыл бұрын

Goobertown is a village (town?) that we all should strive to become a citizen of.

@Loasdrums2

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeremiahbachmann3901 even the local Yetis are nice and helpful.

“If you’re asking that question, you just innately don’t want to build it.” Take away from and moral of this video.

8:40 "Why would you print something this basic?" Because I totally lack manual skills?!

@Tyrantofesp

3 жыл бұрын

Its easier than you think it is

@V1N_574

3 жыл бұрын

Just practice your skills and enough money for practice material and in a couple months you will have something like it or better.... see, simpler and faster than 3d print it hahahaha

Rule of thumb: If you want to craft it, craft it. If you don't: print it.

@Kay0Bot

3 жыл бұрын

But...you designed and created the CAD...soooo

@cptncutleg

3 жыл бұрын

Gods I wish I could afford a 3d printer. I guess I'll invest in molds, plaster of paris and styrofoam, along with resin to recast models with.

@TheCrystalHive

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kay0Bot Not necessarily. There are so many free files for scatter pieces and other objects on various websites that the amount of 3D design skill necessary is pretty negligible.

@AshleyBlackwater

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kay0Bot I guess that's kind of a third path. A majority of people who print are doing it with free/purchased files. But yeah if you enjoy the process of 3d modeling and/or just aren't that good at crafting with your hands then sculpting your own stuff definitely seems like its own thing.

I scratch built a custom house for a scenario last year. I spent a lot of time on building it and am proud of it. I recently got a 3d printer and printed off a house from thingiverse, my mother in law took one look at it and said "wow, that looks way better!" hahaha

@Underworlddream

2 жыл бұрын

Try mixing parts. Like partially hand made the terrain then mix parts that with 3d printed so they would have the best of both world. Also they won't over power each other, a 3D house and a hand made house will look vastly different next to each other. I did something similar with MDF terrain, hand made parts, and resin cast parts. It look way better then both the MDF and hand made terrain if I done them individually.

@googiegress7459

Жыл бұрын

Yes to everything Underworlddream said. I think one thing UWD meant to say but it wasn't 100% out there, is that house STL might be available, but how many of the exact same house do you want on your table? If you start with 3d printed houses and then cut them up, glue them back together, make a couple 2-storey, you can use one STL to make a whole village look different - but of course that means crafting work on top of the 3d printed objects. I want to add that if you 3d print, it can be more durable than handmade, depending on the materials you use to craft. But it will also cost more money in PLA or resin (and wear on your printer), but much less time. I think where 3d printers are really gonna shine is greeblies. When hand crafting that house, if you can get premade parts to stick all over it, that's really going to help. Especially so with dioramas and dungeon tiles.

@ryolacap

Жыл бұрын

Lol I am looking at some of the destroyed houses and buildings in thingyverse, compelled me to get a fdm printer

So I worked in my Universities 3D printing lab processing print requests. The amount of shit that was sent to us to print that was just a flat block with a few holes in it.. these are Bachelor's and Masters engineering students... Absolutely stupid. We have 3 industrial laser cutters..

@b-ratedideas8560

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahahahaba. Thats funny. I could make that with a nail.

@code2works

3 жыл бұрын

Engineers... that's all! :D

@Kay0Bot

3 жыл бұрын

Acceptable

@Nor1MAL

3 жыл бұрын

Well, they are students... Someone is supposed to teach them there you know?...

@justinwking

3 жыл бұрын

If you design your own 3D print, isn’t it still a one of a kind as long as you don’t give the design away?

Oh my gosh! Thanks for the shoutout guys! I was wondering where all the new visitors to my video came from! I would NOT recommend fully 3d printing the wave echo cave to anyone lol.

BMC's eye roll at the mention of dwarven forge is priceless

I feel there should be 3 groups. Hand made, resin printing and fdm printing. Minis and resin is a for sure. Scenery, terrain, buildings etc are much better for fdm than resin.

@ciarfah

3 жыл бұрын

True that, although I get good results on larger minis

My answer to just about all of the items featured here is "Why not both?" I just started 3d printing this past year, but I came from a long history of hand-building. One of the biggest frustrations I ran into while hand-building was getting the right materials. There were so many times where if I had the right materials for a project, I could get better results, or get the same results a lot faster and easier. And while 3d printing something does comes with it's own complications, it now gives me a whole new option when it comes to hand-building. Heck, I even saw where someone figured out a way to 3d print grass flock. GRASS. FLOCK. That's just crazy. I feel that, for a lot of people like me who've been gaming and building for a long time, there will always be some element of hand-building in what we make. Either using 3d printing as an option to improve or speed up our builds, or incorporating hand-building to refine and improve on the projects we print.

@devoiceiddee7459

3 жыл бұрын

Where's this 3d orinted flock? Rather interested actually, probably just easier to buy some but I'm just curious.

I watched this and felt the need to learn more crafting skill for terrain. Black Magic Craft earned my subscribe.

@3DPrintedTabletop

3 жыл бұрын

It goes so wonderfully with 3D printing if you are making stuff for tabletop games. Have fun - he's got so many great tutorials and builds!

@MrBrad9

3 жыл бұрын

been watching BMC since day 1, great content! Go Canada!

@kallisto9166

3 жыл бұрын

You should check out all pf the Tabletop Crafters Guild. They all produce informative and inspirational content that will have you chomping at the bit to get crafting!

@MrBrad9

3 жыл бұрын

@@kallisto9166 Been watching all of them since day one. (and other crafting/RPG) channels. I consume as much as possible.

That pop up of Luke had me in stiches "How do guys?!"

@3DPrintedTabletop

3 жыл бұрын

The rally cry of Luke watchers everywhere :D

For me the reason why I'm now printing a lot of terrain (including buildings), is that while the printer is making the terrain, I can do something else. I win a lot of time this way. I can make a house like Jeremy does. But it would take me more time than I have available => it takes me months to build a house in my free time. In that same time, my printer will have printed a whole village.

@mudawott

3 жыл бұрын

There's also a lot of ways to do things in a hybrid style? Like as he said printing details like windows for a house. Or even a detailed door with? Making a strong frame even. 3d printing is just a tool and we can do so much.

@mchamberlain7408

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. I literally spend that time prepping and planning my DND games.

My all-time 3 favorite channels are Black Magic Craft, Miniac, and you the 3D printing DM. Cool to see you guys collaborating

@3DPrintedTabletop

3 жыл бұрын

Dreaming of the day we can get together with Scott (AKA Mr. Moist). Thanks for the comment, Spencer!

My favorite way to play instead of dungeon tiles is a TV with a image of my map. Then I add 3d printed elements on top of that. Like buildings, bushes, fire pits, and so forth. My players have really been enjoying it!

@brandielee7971

3 жыл бұрын

This is what we want to do

@Jesters3DTabletopGaming

3 жыл бұрын

@@brandielee7971 excellent!!!

One time I spent an entire afternoon trying to design a tar pit in blender. Suddenly I stopped and said out loud, "Why am I doing this? I could just use hotglue on black construction paper.

My two favorite D&D crafters in one go?! Yes, please.

@velveteenv76

3 жыл бұрын

Nerdgasim!!!!!!!

Big thanks to Jeremy for having me! For awesome crafting goodness, check out his channel here: kzread.info/dron/2Rlv-ug-mtnXuMwlpcqFgg.html

@TheGameCraftDragon

3 жыл бұрын

So the simple answer - Big complex things - no. Little complex things - Yes. Big simple things - No. Small simple things - Maybe. :) Great vid! Love both you guys

@Dtr146

3 жыл бұрын

Why not just call the video should you 3D print these?

@alaskankare

3 жыл бұрын

did you guys take time to do a one shot? I have been thinking more and more about one shots.

@neilharrickey8261

3 жыл бұрын

So, how was our canadian winter for you? im not poking fun; have you ever been in a full winter?

Great Debate I like what Jeremy said, "if your're thinking whether to build it or print it. Print it because you didn't say right away I can build that!"

OMG. So this. So very this. So many people seem to insist you have to pick a 'side'. You either hand craft everything OR your 3D print everything and if you do anything from the 'other side' you've somehow done it 'wrong'. I've been following both these guys for a while and I'm so very glad to see this tackled. Kudos to both of you. Much love.

"HOW DO GUYS!" lmao that was hilarious

@cabe_bedlam

3 жыл бұрын

I luv, luv, luv'd it.

@jherazob

3 жыл бұрын

No, no, you pronounce it "OW DO GUYS!" :P

Another option though less available is milling/routing. I use a cnc router to carve tiles from the stl files, a 24x24 in area can be carved in foam in under an hour.

3D print whatever sparks joy. I *really* don't enjoy the feeling of foam, so building my own terrain was always something I absolutely dreaded.

Whenever one of them was holding the other's build, the other one hovered over it oh-so protectively. It's the fiercest instinct of maker-of-things and collectors, and I could not stop chortling 😊 Watch their hands and their faces whenever the other person readjusts their grip.

Imma disagree on tiles for obvious reasons ;-)

@3DPrintedTabletop

3 жыл бұрын

The chat has been blessed with this comment :) I made sure to leave in Jeremy's caveat about the big reasons why you'd want to print them (hint: they're exactly the kind you make) :D of course, I am of the same mind

@kaosdegoof5754

3 жыл бұрын

I have to disagree as well, although I do a mix of both worlds. I use a lot of your models Devon and they are wonderful, but recently I created my own foam tiles similar to dwarven forge's edges and ledges to create negative space builds. They go so well with 3d printed tiles!

@AutisticWombot

3 жыл бұрын

This comment🤣

@code2works

3 жыл бұрын

Imma disagree on buildings for obvious reasons too! :D

The Lost Adventures Kickstarter has trees that you should 100% 3D print. I've made a small forest just using 3D printed trees because of that Kickstarter and trees similar to it!

@3DPrintedTabletop

3 жыл бұрын

As the guy who put that KS together - I have to wholeheartedly agree :) When Jeremy was describing the kind of trees that he wouldn't want crafted...it was all the reasons why I love those trees too. I actually don't own any handmade/bought trees - printed is perfect for me and the way I play!

Great video! Thanks to both of you guys, I have a good bit of experience with both printing and crafting. I will say, one point you didn't bring up is that once you've bought a 3D printer, you're going to want to justify getting your money's worth out of it. There are lots of things I probably should craft instead, but the printer is right there, just looking at me with those jealous eyes.

@3DPrintedTabletop

3 жыл бұрын

This is totally true. I print stuff that I could probably craft just because I've got a tool ready to make it happen while I work on something else. I craft much less these days as a result (not including basing for minis, etc.)

Really great video. The only thing I'd add is that I think BMC views crafting as an artistic process, whereas he views 3D printing as a production process, printing out a model you've downloaded from the Internet. I'm an architect in real life, and whilst I enjoy a bit of terrain crafting from time to time, my skill level is nowhere near as high as his. I can't scratch build a house that looks as amazing as that one. But I sure as hell can 3d model it. My printer allows me to actually print it out into a physical piece. For someone like me it's a game changer, I can bring my ideas to life in a way that wasn't possible before. And it's still a unique piece that nobody else has, which I made myself. I just used a different tool to make it.

This was fun! I started watching BMC years ago as I was wanting to craft for fun. Then that got me onto the path of dnd. Then I eventually took the plunge into 3d printing and discovered your stuff. I find I have less time in my life for crafting and I am very appreciative of 3d printing. I tend to use both skills to get what I'm after. For me the benefit of 3d printing is I can be painting minis while the machine is doing its thing. But there is definitely a different satisfaction from crafting.

A thing I missed is you can 3D print and still be involved in the design. You don't need to print other people's models, you can make your own

@3DPrintedTabletop

3 жыл бұрын

I agree! Neither of us are designers, but we both agree that it's definitely a form of crafting. And I think it's assumed: if you're making it, it's probably worth printing (at least for yourself)

This is such an amazing video. Danny you are such a good interviewer! You should do more of these.

Jeremy and Danny you guys are awesome!!!! Thanks so much for all you do!

As a crafting DM turned 3D printer I loved this video! Learning how to make stone dungeon tiles from Jeremy all those years ago to learning good 3D print settings for FDM miniature printing from Danny, this is an awesome video of worlds colliding! Great advice, I love using 3D printing as a tool to assist my crafting so I can focus on the aspects of crafting that I really enjoy

With my FDM I have printed mostly tile's. Specifically for the fact I print open-lock and connect them. Wood, stone, cavern, volcano, swamp, I'm sure more that I have forgotten. Pre-make up a set-up and keep pieces covered with paper or a sheet. Resin printer for miniature's and accessories with detail.

@3DPrintedTabletop

3 жыл бұрын

You're living the dream, Da Vinci! THE DREAM! I know a lot of folks who do this as well though. In fact, the tile printing community is what started the growth we see today in our community.

@davinci3259

3 жыл бұрын

@@3DPrintedTabletop I'm just glad the price of decent printer's are as low as they are.

I enjoy the fact that you guys take the time to travel and meet each other for your collaboration. Keep up the good work guys.

Gotta be honest I'd use bit of resin to make rocks etc rather than getting into crafting my own terrain. That's probably because I don't have a typical hobby space, instead I have all of my miniature stuff in my recording studio, which is separated from my main house via a door. Like my studio is pretty small so I don't have unlimited space for foamboard and other stuff like that so I'll just print the stuff out in my house and just paint it in the studio. Basically my entire hobby space for painting etc is one table with lights in the corner of the studio.

I love how much interaction I see between all these guys, not just in the videos but like, the comments and stuff.

Thank you for an interesting and entertaining discussion. I can see the absolute joy of crafting something (I make models ) but I also see the benefits of having 3D printed pieces with which to structure a crafted piece with and around. Again Thanks to both of you.

This video is perfect for me. Long time BMC watcher and terrain crafter, still developing my 3d printing skills/bits. This helps me triage which projects to out into my "craft" queue and which into my "print" queue.

Awesome video, thanks for sharing!

Love seeing a new 3DPT video!. Thanks Danny!

Great video guys! This is a really important consideration; how to integrate crafting and 3Dprinting. Personally, I'm getting an SLA printer soon and I'm really looking forward to being able to combine the two. Crafting say, a building, is mostly pretty easy, but certain bits - doors and windows for example - are time consuming. Other bits - intricate chimney pots, weather vanes, decorative carvings, etc - are very challenging to hand craft. With both approaches working together the sky is the limit!

Amazing video, this has reduced my anxiety and being overwhelmed with all the options for 3d print.

Two of my favorite KZread crafters in one room... How the HECK did I miss this and why the heck hasn't KZread recommended this video sooner????

This is such a cool conversation between two people totally passionate about their crafts. I appreciate this video a bunch, thanks for talking it out for us!

I think a lot of it comes down to time and detail. Some details you can't get in one form of creation over the other. Some don't have time to hand craft an item, then paint it. Some have time to put a job on to print and then come home and use their free time to paint it. There's going to be some that don't have the patience to hand craft (and would get frustrated or have a room full of half finished project because they aren't turning out the way they want it to).

As a crafter and a 3D printer user, this video is awesome. My favourite thing to craft are buildings, while I print miniatures. :D

This was a lot of fun to watch. The comparison between 3D printing and crafting always keeps me busy, not just for D&D stuff but also for stuff I make for work: should I design the 3D model and print it or do I just shape it from wood, plastic or any other material? I love to make stuff with my hands so what I can do by hand, I often will. Terrain pieces and building is something to be done by hand but doors, windows and detailed pieces that are easy to design in 3D; those I will design myself and print. Designing miniatures needs a complete set of skills that I do not have so those I download an print. One of the big advantages, for me, of 3D printing miniatures is that I can print the same mini multiple times and try different techniques on them to see what works best for me.

love the Jazz Flutist jump cit sound effect. Awesome! and the Luke pop up! great video

honestly, for most of these i'd suggest doing both...craft whatever is decently doable to craft, and print the tiny things that require more details. want a fountain? craft the base, maybe print some ornaments to put on it. want to build a house, craft the house, maybe print the smaller details (translucent resin/filament for the windows, print door handles or maybe full door,...) these can also be combined, create 1 version of detailed things either by crafting or printing them, then turn those into a mold for resin or green stuff or... no need to think about crafting VS printing. if you have a printer and love to craft, use them to support each other ^^

Great video! I've been a long time crafter, but I'm jumping into 3d printing. I agree, candles, alters, bookshelves... all those things are printed... they look nice handcrafted but eat a ton of time and you need 30+ of them to look great. I'll be printing that. The houses and larger 1 shot stuff is very satisfying to build.

Great video! Another thing I like about crafting is recycling.

Great epizode. Thx much. Insightful.

Another hidden gem of this great community! Sub'd and notifications are on! Looking forward to more content from you!

I like to supplement crafting with 3d printed components.

Great video & super helpful for newbies. I was listening to this whilst folding laundry & wearing headphones & jumped when Luke popped in with his "How do guys?!" lol.

What a couple of cool dudes. Thanks for sharing 👍

this is about your passions and interests. I agree with each perspective. you guys like to make imaginary worlds. and you both use different tools to achieve this goal. and each way is a unique challenge to overcome or adapt to. Keep up the good work and love the stuffs! :P

I would print smaller things, and them put them together like lego. And then add extra craft.

Great idea for a Video! Lots of perspective.

This is like having mom and dad giving the best. In a strange but happy dungeon family. I crafted following BMC tutorials for a long time. I got my 3d printer mainly because of Danny. True respect.

Really good video. Really liked this video. As someone who has made terrain for years, done resin casting, and even has some award winning pieces - a lot of what said here certainly resonates. I love the problem solving and creativity of making a piece. But that is the first piece. If I need 10 of them - print them. Heck, if it is something simple, and I can find a model - print it. Also, if sci-fi - 3d printing is a lot easier - fantasy can have rough edges (wood, stone etc.) where as sci-fi is a lot more straight and clean lines, and 3d printing works well. On sci-fi building pieces, I like to make the base building out of foamcore, and use TONS of 3d printed doors, vents and other greebles. (the best of both worlds). thanks for the video guys!

To make connecting dungeon tiles. 1. Just cut a small slit in the side of the tiles 2. Cut to length a small piece of a popsicle stick 3. Slide it in one side and glue it or just slide them in and out

I had flashbacks of when I worked at a hobby store when I saw those little trees. I distinctly remember stocking those things saying, "$27.99… whuuuuuuut?"

3d modelling your own stuff is a nice balance between coming up with stuff and "crafting" them and just pressing a button and printing multiple copies of the same thing without the tedium of repeating the steps over and over yourself. Just the painting part alone is enough "hands on" crafting for me.

Just a really fun video to watch. Thanks guys!

Wow two of my favorite KZread posts and one show love it!

What great content. Both crafting and 3d printing are important facets of gaming and I enjoyed the conversation of why you would or wouldn't print certain items. That being said, I remember watching Jeremy make that shipping container and using dry spaghetti for the door rods.

Very enjoyable listening/watching to this while painting some dwarfs. Thanks guys!

Excellent video, thank you!

"Its spaghetti" - my favorite line from this video.

Thank you much. I enjoy both your channels for a while now. I basically only print miniatures and craft the rest...

I think print or craft boils down to what you personally enjoy. If you enjoy crafting but don't enjoy 3d printing you should always craft. Only if you enjoy both it makes sense to have this conversation. If you enjoy neither and just want the product there is also another answer: Buy it. Crafting and 3D printing both take considerable amounts of your personal time. After all this is a hobby, if you do not enjoy the process its probably cheaper to just buy the stuff.

@Black Magic Craft - Love the point about print vs. build. My process is to ask myself, will I be happier when I have reached the goal? Sometimes it's about learning new skills, expressing creativity, or the satisfaction of meeting the challenge. Sometimes it is just too much of a hassle given the joy received from the result. Solid wisdom for makers Jeremy.

3d printing is a crafters friend. It's a tool that can make special tools like custom texture rolling pins or printing small props to go in bigger pieces. Creating frames for buildings to make them sturdier.

I got my 3d printer last Christmas. It could have been glorious. But every game I've played since then has been via roll20. That said, my group has actually managed to pass 12 consecutive weeks of gaming sessions, which I personally haven't managed with any group since I left school.

scratch build, hand craft, kitbash and now 3D print the possibilities are endless with all the options available aren't they?

Great video, I love crafting and also 3d print terrain and some minis(on fdm). 3d printing is great for getting things on the table and those shapes/patterns that are hard/time consuming to replicate with craft. Personally I can print much more often than I can paint/craft so I end up with backlog of prints to paint. It can become a chore to get through them and ive had to curtial my printing so i dont get in this situation again. So having this backlog of prints can mean I dont get to spend as much time painting minis or crafting terrain which i find more rewarding than just painting prints. For the past month or two ive been focussing on clearing my table of projects ands its slow going.

Such a good convo. Same thing in the drone world... Sometimes it's not worth 3D printing something when you can modify a dollar store item quickly and effectively.

"if you're asking yourself if you should craft it or print it then print it" Great quote! Because its true, if you dont want to spend the time crafting something, even if it makes more sense, then its not worth it. And Vise versa, it might be a million times easier to print something but if you want to craft it, the satisfaction is worth the impracticality of it.

Should you print or craft something? Yes. I have rarely been happy with a printed object on its own, but printing gribblies for a crafted project... that's pretty much spot on.

Hope you will in some time in the future make a challenge with @Black Magic Craft Would like to see you on the foam cutter. :-P

Great collaboration, 2 great content creators.

The best thing said in the vid: Building them again is not problem solving, it's just repeated work. Im going to have to remeber that, it maybe the reason I don't like building the same things over again.

Back before there were dungeon tiles, we used posterboard with a grid drawn on it

Great video. Really enjoyed it.

Asking one of the greatest KZread crafting personalities whether you should craft or print objects seems like a conversation that you don't really need to watch a video to know.

At the very end, when you were playing with Jeremy's toys, I was envious.

To me, 3d printing has opened a world of possibilities while saving a lot, but I mean a LOT of time. I used to craft everything and I got good at it (I even sold my crafts and made a living with it). But now, I got a kid, a full time job and other stuff I want to do, so printing terrain and minis is just the way to go. I still craft some stuff (like rocks and outdoors stuff) and I still have to paint everythinig, but now my between games time is spent on improving my world, NPCs, maps, etc. instead of worrying about a single encounter that I want to have in 3d.

I'm a new DM so I'm watching this trying to figure out if I should delve head first into some of the pre made 3dp dungeon stuff, but i do appreciate the perspective of a crafter that is willing to look at things from the other side. He's able to separate pride over practicality which I feel is hard to do when you're talking about things that you created with your own hands and if people should take the shortcut over that craft.

For most of these I would resin 3D print one unit then make a mold and cast any more I need then you get the best of both worlds.

For me the general rule is anything large I craft and anything small I print. Just saves time that way.

Love this video! Super incite-full, great resource for anyone looking into 3D-Printing or Handcrafted Manufacturing. I really appreciate the segment on Dungeon Tiles. I would never have thought about crafting molds to cast resin into... that makes a lot of sense! My only gripe about handcrafting is the texture, light-weight & an ascetic disdain for the noise that squeaks out when styrofoam is handled... I do really appreciate the pleasing ascetics of taking a central scene & blocking from cognitive conception to physical realization. I can really see how that can be just as inspirational in the execution as the initial planning, but I do think that you can get just as much from designing the model .sti file and fleshing out the finished product when painting as crafting, plus correcting errors or executing sudden inspired changes seems like it would be easier to do on an .sti file than a physical project... “/

@Pyriphlegeton

3 жыл бұрын

I think it's "insightful", not "incite-full". :)

@tristencovarrubias4950

3 жыл бұрын

@Pyriphlegeton Ha, yeah... so did I, but autocorrect kept telling me no. I just assumed that it was just a commonly misappropriated conjugation; either that, or it flagged it as a fragment sentence?

My crafting goes back decades, just getting close to pulling the trigger on a 3D printer. Back in the day a couple decades ago, I started buying Hirst Arts molds, which I would consider a precursor to 3D printing terrain. I still cast pieces in dental plaster for terrain to this day.

3D Printing is awesome for mold making. Print it one time, make a mold and duplicate it when you need it whit plaster or resin.

I think it depends a lot on whether you want to design your own 3d model using something like blender to actually make a 3d design not only can you very easily change something about it, but you also get into the mindset of what's going to happen during the battle as you're designing it

funny how when you live in Winnipeg, December is still runners and hoodie weather if your just running out for a bit(couple of hours) If your from Miami a few more layers are required. Great watch guys, the wife is the crafter I'm the 3d printer and gamer this got us really thinking about how we approach stuff in our respective hobbies.

There is a critical factor that didn't come up here: time. It's a serious limitation for a lot of DMs who also have jobs and families to worry about. Every hour I spend hand crafting awesome terrain is time I don't have for housework, parenting, game prep, game play, or sleep. I'm in no way trying to put down or demean the people who prefer hand making things, because I have incredible respect for the love and effort they put into it, but we all have to make choices about how we prioritize our time. Would I love the artistic process of hand building beautiful houses, pillars, scatter, and tiles? Yes, I would. I did sculpting for years when I was young, I enjoy problem solving, and making unique artwork is very appealing. I'm a creative person; that's why I love DMing in the first place. However, I can set my 3D printer going before bedtime using files I downloaded, and by the time I get home from work I have a pile of terrain ready for a quick cleanup and paint. I can shave hundreds of hours of work out by printing, which means I can spend more time being a parent, friend, and DM for my group.

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I absolutely agree, Cristia! These are my exact feelings. Some things I still do craft by hand, but these days I print a lot of it. I love what I print just as much, and after painting it and using it on the table...it's still incredibly fulfilling for me. That being said: I also love how interconnected so many hobbies are here with tabletop games - and I think most people gravitate towards the ones they enjoy the most. Thanks again for the comment , and happy printing!

I love you both, Jeremy got me crafting, you got me to start 3d printing!!!! I am like Jeremy my crap stays home on a shelf. Somethings Here is my list and why. Minis- Printed-RESIN- most of mine bought, printed a few, Your owl bear from your kickstarter is amazing looking on a filament printer, but wont print much more than that till i have a resin Rocks- Printed- I have a ton of Jeremy style rocks but when I dont need minis to stand on the rocks, the printed look so much better Pillars- Printed- most of the time I want a smaller pillar and a 1x1 is too big , I tend to use ones I bought compared to my crafted ones Trees - Printed- I hate flocking falling off my trees, love your kickstarter ones, I have some green tops painted and then I made some autumn ones. But my woodland scenics look great Tiles- Neither- I made a ton of Jeremy tiles, we never used them, I printed a shit load or Wyloch's thinking maybe cause they move around too easy, nope still dont use them, battle mat only Scatter terrain- Both- i made several shelves and other items, the big thing i notice is the scale of things compared to minis drives me nuts, its hard to make that small, except things like crystal clusters, and stalagmites those crafted are good Buildings-Printed-I wish-I could say I have made one, I have watched Jeremy's videos on them and I have been afraid that I can't make that in the 2 years I have been crafting. So I 3d print buildings, maybe someday I will get the courage to not worry about failing at making a building Modern- I only do D&D as of now 1 Offs- I am not the DM , so I craft and print things in the hopes that he will want to use it, so I try to print and craft generic items more. Either crafting or 3d Printing I think you get great satisfaction when it is done, and painted. If you aren't the crafter/printer in your gaming group be sure to give approval to everything they do, cause we do pour our heart and soul into our items no matter what way they are made!