Hi everyone! I'm loving the feedback I'm getting for this video 💙 But I have a question: for 13th-8th, I listed two members at the same time (to make this video less repetitive, especially for this large group). Was it okay? Or would it be better to stick to one member at a time? Any feedback is great 💙 Cheers everyone :D

@leyan5558

3 жыл бұрын

2 members at a time for the lower rankings in large groups is great in my opinion! :D good job!!

@charlize3102

3 жыл бұрын

I think 2 members at the same time is great especially if they have similar comments

@soranthings

3 жыл бұрын

yes, it's alright with me, especially since they have the same comments. Thank you so much for your hard work^^

@lassyyaa

3 жыл бұрын

The video was pretty good! If u got all ur points across in that format, then it's fine! And also take care of your health

@mochii4894

3 жыл бұрын

super fine! keep up the amazing work i loved this video

More carats need to know about Jun’s waist injury when he was younger.

@fluffybunchy

3 жыл бұрын

Okay wait, what happened?

@bebaios

3 жыл бұрын

@@fluffybunchy for what I know he went under surgery for that and maybe it explains his stiffness, but I'm not sure

@frankiemaeacebuche6437

3 жыл бұрын

What? I didn't know that 😭😭

@labota249

3 жыл бұрын

I was about to comment this!

@25Fanie

3 жыл бұрын

​@@fluffybunchy He got hurt during a martial art competition in highschool. The injury was very serious. You can search further for Jun's brother letters (tears warning)

okay but can we talk about how much jeonghan improved??? he said himself that he has the lowest stamina among the members, but he manage to push over it and doing his best on stage

@k.orberg6367

3 жыл бұрын

Though, according to me, if you look at their predebut videos he clearly has a sense and surprisingly good movements for having started just months earlier!

@zatiiwaniabdullah7864

3 жыл бұрын

ikr - he also mention he quite late to catch up new dance routine - im so proud of him

@godzelos9466

3 жыл бұрын

Also the fact that in HIT, he only went out of stage for like 1 sec and came back in

@jeonvck9624

Жыл бұрын

periodt im so proud of him

@anime-ye1qs

Жыл бұрын

I became a fan in early 2022 and my bias was Jeonghan Although I don't understand anything about dancing, i felt that he's a really good dancer - especially in comparison to many other idols But, indeed in comparison to 2015-19, he draws more attention from 2020 with his dancing - his dancing was still really impressive even before that - just that there are too many good dancers in Seventeen so he didn't stand out that much Edit: his dance was noticeable from 2018 and was totally one of the top most noticeable since 2019

"anyone can go home and learn a dance, but not everyone can go home and choreograph especially not at Hoshi's level" u be spitting facts, hoshi's choreography is literally *chef's kiss*

@blssmtheday5885

3 жыл бұрын

🥰

@nuguteentrash6354

2 жыл бұрын

Fact

I didn’t know ranking svt’s dancing was possible😩

@nafiahayyu

3 жыл бұрын

IKR

@fildzah2602

3 жыл бұрын

He/she did a great job finishing this

@heymelonnn9869

3 жыл бұрын

Ofc it is Every dancer even the greatest ones have slight differences between each other

@heymelonnn9869

3 жыл бұрын

There is another channel that made VERY SIMILAR analyzes to svt dance ranking But i forgot its name :/

@heymelonnn9869

3 жыл бұрын

Oh nvm the name is KPOP WEDGES with a potato pfp

hoshi is one of my fav performers he doesn't get enough credit for being one of the best all-rounders in kpop he is an amazing dancer, a really good singer and a good rapper. seventeen overall may not be underrated but they are definitely under appreciated.

@joytaime6890

3 жыл бұрын

i love hoshi sm

@svtcatline9662

3 жыл бұрын

Actually carats are lazy enough to spread svt agenda and a bit selfish to keep them selves . They won’t invade other videos . That’s why other fandom don’t know much about 17. Seventeen have one of best dance line in Korea . People just dont know.

@glorylewis7202

3 жыл бұрын

@@svtcatline9662 I wouldn't say lazy or selfish either. Not every fan has to constantly share and spread the SVT agenda online. You can also just appreciate them by actually enjoying their music and occasionally sharing etc. Some people have actual lives, jobs and other things beyond just being a fan and that's ok too. I keep hearing a lot of activist fans calling the less active fans lazy. We may have different priorities. Besides, why invade other videos when you know what you like? It's a bit odd (also kinda rude) talking about another artist under someone else's post or mv. Yes, everyone wants to be really popular etc but I'm sure the artists themselves would choose quality over quantity. They would rather have the fans understand and be healed through their music and art than be the biggest selling artist which makes less of an impact to the community

@glorylewis7202

3 жыл бұрын

under appreciated for sure. From what I know though, a lot of people know about and of seventeen, but I think many are biased by the number of members that they don't appreciate the art as much anymore.

@arimwen4664

3 жыл бұрын

@@glorylewis7202 I agree, I'm actually glad that this fandom isn't all about the views and popularity. We appreciate the boys for their effort in ways we can since they deserve the world. And that what makes this whole thing special and wholesome.

I'm REALLY proud of Jeonghan in terms of his dancing improvement...

@isabellalemes4318

3 жыл бұрын

YEAH MAN

@isabellalemes4318

3 жыл бұрын

Finally i see jeonghan being recognized

@honey-fb2ws

3 жыл бұрын

ME TOOOO

@mochicheeks0506

3 жыл бұрын

same!!

@eunhajungeun-bi3678

3 жыл бұрын

True,even when his stamina isnt the best he always does the best for carat💞

Ok but HOSHI. It’s literally common knowledge that he’s an amazing dancer as well as choreographer, but he’s also a lead vocal (along side Woozi oml), and somewhat of a rapper. Wtf he has too much talent im out-

@whiteravenkpopfan

3 жыл бұрын

+ Having leader responsibilities of the Performance Team + Balancing the most sub units in Seventeen (Preformance, Leaders and BooSeokSoon) + Having lyric credits + Having composing credits + Comedic legend I'm out-

@jonbenneyy

3 жыл бұрын

i'm overwhelmed every single time. it's been like almost 6 yrs that he's my bias but he still surprise me

@Omunique.

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr I'm obsessed with his voice i-

@itsthebugjeybs

3 жыл бұрын

+ he lowkey sounds like EXO's Xiumin😭

@itsthebugjeybs

3 жыл бұрын

*Woozi is a de facto Main Vocalist (as u may notice in some songs, if not SeokBoo does the High Notes/Adlibs, he DOES😏🤣)

it makes me happy to see dino getting praised i would also like to add that dino's stage presence is always present and consistent (imo he is the most consitent in stage presence and facial expressions in the group regardless of the concept) and he always gives his 100% in every performance and at a very young age !

@hotdogalliance6561

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah the Future of Kpop needs more recognition

@mimi-jj8rg

3 жыл бұрын

True, like this guy's so young what the heck, I'm afraid of how powerful he's gonna become in a few years

@noirnothing4389

3 жыл бұрын

Dino is not my fav member (i love all the boys btw) but i hv to say, everytime i see him in a performance even for a brief second, i hv to pause and take a second look cuz his gaze KILLS me

@liilaclalilac

3 жыл бұрын

I think technique-wise Dino is the 1st place (hip-hop). But bcs hoshi choreograph most of seventeen song, he got the best flow overall so he's got no. 1.

@niricabritneyanime02

3 жыл бұрын

This 💜

because of dokyeom's funny, endearingly cute personality, im always shocked everytime i see him on the stage. he's seriously so good. i think his stage presence is really good no matter what concept they bring. his dancing is so freaking good too, and i agree he can be the lead dancer to other groups. and ngl i always thought svt is really good with cute happy concept than the serious dark concept like fear. not that they r not good in that concept but i think they are just more comfortable cus thats how they always are.

@mcdoul382

3 жыл бұрын

yess! i agree very much with ur last comment. cause it's always nice to see that they're truly having fun on stage and not just 'performing' :)

@user-zs4zb8ty1h

3 жыл бұрын

and also dokyeom actually has a major in dance during high school i was shocked I genuinely thought he majored in singing

@mija318

3 жыл бұрын

remember when he being center on home ? im left causr he so good asf 😔

@almostlost7

2 жыл бұрын

same bestie

@wellthisisinteresting4912

2 жыл бұрын

THISSS

The thing I like about hoshi's dancing is that he doesn't over dance. His control over his body is amazing. And also I'm so so proud of jeonghan. He literally improved so much. I really like his dancing

@serendipity899

2 жыл бұрын

@@nursyafiqa99 are you okay?

most of kpop dancers nowadays would either lean more on hard movements and excessive body locking or over bending choreo. however, for hoshi, he knows exactly when to be tough and when to smoothly glide with the movements. he perfected his angles and such a perfectionist in his dance. exactly why he's a good dancer

“DK has surprisingly very good sense of rhythm” haha This made me think of all the various drum dances he’s done in GoSe, especially in that [The8 and the 12 shadows] episode and the most recent [Going Magazine] episodes where he was DJing and dancing all over the place.

@seventeenyeojachingu4205

3 жыл бұрын

dk was a dance major (i think that’s how you phrase it?) in school (i think sopa?) so that probably helped with his rhythm

@niricabritneyanime02

3 жыл бұрын

@@seventeenyeojachingu4205 Oh really?

@sebongteens

Жыл бұрын

i believe he also chose a dance related major for university !

What most people forget about or don't know is that DK is a Dance Major, his position on the group is Main Vocal, but he graduated with a Major in Dance. So he's like the complete package!!

Dino is a good dancer and quick learner he's just memorise the whole dance brake just only seen once wtf dino future of kpop

@caratasmr7291

3 жыл бұрын

IKR!!! Especially after watching the behind the scenes of them practicing for the FMA and Dino doing complicated footwork and dance on his first try just by watching the others practice!

@kimhc6455

3 жыл бұрын

@@caratasmr7291 May I know which video you are talking about. I really want to watch.

@ableure2033

3 жыл бұрын

@@kimhc6455 in Seventeen's [Inside Seventeen] you can watch it in their KZread Channel

@kimhc6455

3 жыл бұрын

@@ableure2033 Tq for the reply. Appreciate it a lot.

@ableure2033

3 жыл бұрын

@@kimhc6455 you're welcomeee

from what i heard, Jun had a past injury with his waist and he is being careful about it. i think that's where the disadvantage lies for him.

@gloriasalvador4381

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think he's being careful about it. As an injured dancer myself i think his movility range decreased, an injurie itself makes it happen and there are rumors that he went into surgery so its even worse.

@sofianicolevillas2161

3 жыл бұрын

but even though he has a past injury he's still making a good performance and I didn't even notice that he has a past injury because he is such a nice dancer

@samsam3845

2 жыл бұрын

He is the best and the sharpest performer in seventeen for me.

Dokyeom is such a surprisingly good dancer considering how amazing his voice is.

@melv5816

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed! He'd be one of the best, if he wasn't one of the main vocalists in SVT. He can't go all out because of that.

To explain Jun's undeveloped isolations: As a teenager, he had injured himself on the waist during a martial arts competition. He didn’t want to worry his parents about it, so the injury was discovered late, and Jun was diagnosed with spinal tuberculosis. The treatment process for his tuberculosis took around 10 months and still affects his dancing today, as he’s stiff around his waist/hips. Either way, he's still a fantastic dancer now!!!

@explorer2958

4 ай бұрын

Wow! Considering this reasons, his isolations/placements was the most clean IMO.. He looks like a flowing water.

Dino the dancing machine Hoshi the dancing gem The8 the b-boy dancer Jun soft dancer Woozi hidden dancer

@anime-ye1qs

Жыл бұрын

Woozi was actually supposed to be in performance team The company had long discussions to decide which unit to put Woozi in They said it in an interview

Jun truly is so underrated. If Jun was not that 'shy', then Hoshi and Dino would be in trouble. He gonna be a big competitor for the both main dancer. Many fans agree on that. Jun isn't that interested in dancing like the other three perf unit members, but he would beat them if he were to be passionate about it. Despite his injury and his height (182cm), Jun is an mind-blowing dancer and pretty much a beast on stage like Hoshi. Their stage presence is insane. Both also have the most views on their dance-heavy fancams. Jun has the same potential like Taemin or Ten or Jimin. He is just not into extending that, plus he is extremely shy and loses all self-confidence when he has to dance alone, which is super devastating and sad. He really has to work on his self-confidence. Until now, you can clearly see that he is not that confident. The Jun back before 2017 was screaming like S.coups during lives and dancing like the most confident king ever. Now he is on a soft sweet voice trip, don't dare to voice, laughs at the end of every sentence and falls back deliberately to leave the spotlight to the others. Many people call him childish and don't take him serious (his person and his skills as a dancer and singer). This way he loses more confidence. I hope fans can stop calling him that and see him for what he is. The purest, kindest and most talented person I've seen, someone who needs to be freed from his cage.

@samsam3845

2 жыл бұрын

Best comment👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@plouv7696

2 жыл бұрын

Ame ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️

@OHITSLALA

2 жыл бұрын

exactly my thoughts over Junhui

@ljandaya3671

Жыл бұрын

Actually i love your comment.. Jun has that Taemin/Jimin sense in stage.. sexy and shy type.. i love him

@Svtrighthere2019

Жыл бұрын

​@@jmksw636 im not sure if its the confidence or maybe he just settled more into idol life and many members have said he seems to get shy on camera but he is insanely funny and talkative off camera.

I really can't choose between hoshi and dino, they have very different styles of dancing : hoshi is indeed the most versatile and he has a speed-centered technique that makes his dancing captivating dino's technique is centerded around sharpness and precision, which is why i disagree about the over-dancing, dino has by far the best body control in svt, no matter how much power he puts in, every move is so detailed and precise, which makes is dancing very satisfying to watch in my opinion

@wynnmercurio3640

3 жыл бұрын

Well even dino really admires hoshi's dancing skills. And to add that hoshi really isn't the cover type of a dancer that shows their dancing skills often is really amazing. Low-key amazing

@carljustineclavecillas8834

3 жыл бұрын

yah they have different style but i'll still rank Hoshi first because he has a good presence when he is center, you'll notice whenever he is center the dancing becomes more precise and well rounded.

@kimhc6455

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agreed. I can't choose between dino and hoshi. Since both is a great dancers and have different style.

@gzsxnia

3 жыл бұрын

@@carljustineclavecillas8834 Dino has the best facial expressions and GREAT stage presence, he just doesn't have enough time to shine in Seventeen, watch him in Lilili Yabbay or watch his Very nice fancam for example (or any fancam), he eat the performances and is super captivating

@carljustineclavecillas8834

3 жыл бұрын

@@gzsxnia yahh he really is the best but the fluidity of movements and proper form Hoshi still shines, Dino sometimes overdance but that's how he is and i love him for that. They both have their own styles which is incomparable but if i have to make a choice i still choose Hoshi some might prefer Dino and i respect that cuz he really is a terrific dancer. All of them actually HAHHAHAA

As DK biased I'm pleased that people put him on high position, this is the 2nd video (on svt dancing) I've watched and he's still there ^^ He really is a good dancer.

@assemm3444

3 жыл бұрын

@@perfectako2358 thank u, I watched that as well~

@loissy2950

8 ай бұрын

As DK biased, I'm also pleased that he's high, and shocked that he's so underrated by some. I'm a new fan btw, who's really shocked by how underrated he is.

6:25 , the reason why junhui can be stiff around his hips/waist is because he got injured during a martial arts competition before, so he ended up developing a spinal tuberculosis, thus explains why he can't move his hips and torso much

I would personally put Vernon in higher position because for me he's one of the members who can deliver best their choreographies and I often see him center a lot. As to Jun, I would still put him on 4th place only because when it comes to freestyling, he's not that confident as much as other perf unit members. On the stiffness of his waist, his injury when he was younger can be one of the reasons. But I often see how Jun's height is not listed to his disadvantages as dancer when he's actually the 2nd tallest member. He's one of the best center in the group too. I don't know how to properly explain it but it feels like their most balance formation is when he is on the center. And he's actually the perf unit member with the least experience on dancing 'cause he only started learning it when he joined pledis but it's amazing how he's really doing well even during their trainee days. And I personally really enjoy his fancams 'cause I've always thought he has the best facial expressions alongside Dino.

@atlg6435

3 жыл бұрын

And finally someone saying Dino is the best hiphop dancer in the group!

@atlg6435

3 жыл бұрын

I would also like to add that I would rank Jun higher if when it's about delivering choreographies. He's one of the most detailed and precised dancer in the group.

@denisemendoza9530

3 жыл бұрын

Hoshi and Jun are the ones who always danced precisely and cleanly, while Dino and the8 gives their own style when dancing

I’m just gonna say that Jun has one of the best facial expressions in Seventeen

@imactuallytrash3989

3 жыл бұрын

I agree but I feel like they are inconsistent. I sometimes see him with a blank face but when he has facial expressions he’s really good

@elixir8710

2 жыл бұрын

@@imactuallytrash3989 I think hoshi has the best and most consistent facial expressions, even he's not in the center. For me, watching Hoshi's fancam is a must 🐯🔥

@balticrevolt2552

2 жыл бұрын

For me its Dino. He knows how to flirt with the camera like in Good to Me and Hit but also slays cute concepts

@nika___nika8086

2 жыл бұрын

LMAO I had to say the same thing

Judging by Jun's waist injury, his dance is really impressive

@monotzukokuureshii

11 ай бұрын

also he is the tallest in performance unit so it even more impressive

@mairakhurram4965

11 ай бұрын

@@monotzukokuureshii ikr

okay but can we all agree that S.Coups has the best stage presence out of all of them? his facial expressions are consistent even in the parts of the song where he's not the center anymore. like bruh center or not, his expressions are never dull and boring and it amazes me every time

I actually feel Vernon is rated way to low he was originally a member of the Performsnce team but when they decided on the Hip Hop team Vernon really wanted to be a rapper and worked super hard to earn the spot and if you see solo clips of Vernon dancing he really is incredible.

@Mandy02

3 жыл бұрын

Yeahhh I first knew SVT with Vernon’s focus cam and I thought he was one of the main/lead dancers

@bookim2264

2 жыл бұрын

Say it louder please

@zemfirasafina8766

2 жыл бұрын

That boy carried the whole dance mafia game, along with Joshua btw xD

@astartin24

Жыл бұрын

I agree with this. A common carat opinion is that after the Perf team, the 2 next best dancers would be Vernon and Woozi. I feel like Vernon was rated too low - there's a reason why he's always chosen to do the dance breaks during stages

@lithiumclears

Жыл бұрын

I agree 100% and Seungkwan at 13th place doesn't sit well with me. Personally, I think Woozi and Vernon are the best dancers outside the performance unit.

Woozi, Hoshi, and Dino always catch my eye when I am watching their choreographies. Especially Dino, he’s so freaking talented! He can smoothly connect super hard moves :O

I think Jun and Dino are the ones who have the best facial expressions in Seventeen

@srk4799

3 жыл бұрын

Trueeee

@moonjunimo

Жыл бұрын

absolutely i keep rewatching his left and right fancam because i love his facial expressions

@fificevennes6569

Жыл бұрын

I think S.coups too ?

@Saiioox

5 ай бұрын

Hoshi too

From DK personality and how he performs on stage there’s such a difference and I get shocked everytime. I’m so glad you ranked him high in dancing cuz he’s a really good dance r

I still think it's criminal Dino doesn't get nearly as enough hype for his dance as other groups I've seen, have you seen the views on his danceology? Makes me mad. He's still so young and already this good!

ah everytime i think of jun's hip stiffness i get a bit emotional. permanent damage from his childhood (i think it was due to overworking or maybe a martial arts injury) and it sucks it still effects him now. can still outdance and outperform so it's obvious he doesn't let anything hold him back!!

DK is such an underrated dancer man. hes so sharp and clean.

hoshi in dingo mafia dance: "i can't dance well" hoshi in dance rankings: *is first* ok but can i just say this is the first ranking i've seen that i 100% agree with? your reasoning is solid for all of them, and as a dancer myself i was pleased to see how high Woozi, DK and Jeonghan ranked here. I've always thought Woozi is the best dancer in SVT aside from performance team, he has an ability to make emotions and passion shine through his movements alone and is extremely fluid.

@zel2362

9 ай бұрын

(Dancer’s perspective) Same!! But I would personally put woozi on the same level as Minghao. His movements are incredibly clean.

Tbh I've always thought Jun had some of the best facial expressions in SVT, I probably would've ranked him and Vernon a tad higher but each to their own! I loved your points and agreed with pretty much everything. The china line promotion is very appreciated!!! 💛💛

@srk4799

3 жыл бұрын

Yesss

@rise1996

3 жыл бұрын

​@@perfectako2358 just watched it and i actually disagree a lot more with that one surprisingly!

My personal opinions (as a non dancer) -Vernon's technic is under looked, I think he sometimes lacks consistency but he has really great technic and clean moves. In my personal case I got tricked by his body posture, not one of the best, that made me underestimate his abilities. -Seungkwan has really some of the cleanest moves in the group (ft Woozi) -Joshua has a great body and I would "take advantage" of his arms muscles and chest to give him specific spotlight in choreographies, for example with handstands or worm rolls (we all know he is great at both) -Wonwoo and Jun are the most elegant dancers (ft Woozi). -Jun has the strongest stamina. -Hoshi is one of the most versatile and energetic dancers in kpop but I have noticed a little "weakness" (if we should call it like that): sometimes he overdances. I actually think it's more of his dancing style rather than a weakness. -If I think about Dino I think about potential. He is already fantastic now but I can sense a lot of unexplored potential too. -Dk is easily the all rounded in group, together with Hoshi and Woozi.

@chringchring7451

3 жыл бұрын

Almost agree. I would put Dino nowadays to all rounder too, his singing improve so much

@dania_joon

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, Seungkwan dance is clean af. Im actually kind of surprised he is placed at 13th 😞 anyway, like they said, everyone has a different opinions, so i respect their choices 😊

@louisea1223

3 жыл бұрын

yes i totally agree with wonwoo being elegant!!

@kavyaviju3025

Жыл бұрын

Dk, dino, seungkwan are literally the hidden aces of seventeen

@zel2362

9 ай бұрын

As a dancer, I don’t think that Hoshi has a tendency to overdance. He’s extremely consistent. Dino however does have a tendency to over dance quite often. (Dino is my bias wrecker)

I'm really proud and not surprised that DK's dance ability ranks high because he majored in tap and acrobatic dance back when he was in high school... I think that's what gave him an edge compared to his other members :)

Ah yes Dk, our main vocal who studied dance in SOPA

Before dk was a main vocal he actually trained as the dance line i heard👀 our boys be all rounders all of em I LOVE THEM

I think DK focuses more on his singing skills now, so his dance may release some power to maintain the steady breathing while singing. But he is still a amazing performer in my heart !

Thank you for promoting China-Line!

Main vocalist, great dancer, variety show genius, STUNNING visual. What can't DK do?

Moon Jun is such a great and underrated dancer he is 3rd best dancer for me he deserve more in everything 🔥💯💯

Jeonghan really became such an amazing performer. His under dancing most of the time is due to his stamina. He really gets tired easily and when they get packed schedule it takes toll on his health. I am glad he is taking care of his health better and seems improved his stamina too. Jeonghan's body control,good rythm,flexibility and facial expressions are his strengths. I am glad to know his technique is quiet decent when he is an emotional type of dancer. I love to see him dance more especially I like his elegant and expressive style of dancing.

Honestly, Chan's dancing skills are so underappreciated, he has very good facial expressions, and he has really stage presence. He's dance movements are also really sharp and clear ( not necessarily a good thing all the time tho) AND HIS BODY CONTROL CAN WE TALK ABOUT THAT? 😭😭 I'm a dancer myself too, and the first time I saw Hoshi and Dino I already knew they were dancers 😩✋🏻

i can’t believe jun was in a childhood accident and still being able to be 4th place in terms of dance skills (and also in the dance unit)

Jun having great isolations everywhere except the hip where he had a severe childhood injury They are all great dancers seriously!

jeonghans improvements and dk's recognition is all I need in life

Surprisingly, this has been the most accurate list I’ve seen so far in terms of ‘ranking’ SVT...

Seventeen is so underrated as a performance group they are specially known for their synchronisation but their choreos are so unique and beautiful at the same time hard also. Their choreo fits so beautifully with the song even tho one can not understand the lyrics but still through their perfect choreos the songs became more enjoyable.

@antonellabanto

9 ай бұрын

Actually, I think that nowadays they're the best dancers with the best choreos

@catenjoyer76

6 ай бұрын

​@@antonellabanto I agree. But for me it's not only about who has the best choreo but the best performance! I think Seventeen are undefeated when it comes to performing. I've never seen a group, not only in kpop, that has captivated me as much as them.

i felt like i was being attacked when i saw hoshi’s bright smile as he ranked 1st. he is too cute that i stopped functioning for a second.

Im so so proud of Seokmin i mean for being a MAIN VOCAL he has amazing dance skills, dang all of the svt members have amzing dance skills

I was so nervous to see Dino anywhere other than 2nd place (we all knew Hoshi was no.1) I’m so relieved to see you put him at no. 2, i absolutely love his dancing 🌸

Love for Dino because he's so underappreciated outside of the fandom i feel like. We really got to watch Maknae Chan grow up a lot

seeing this video after LIMBO came out and i've got to say Jun really improved on his overall waist/hip isolations and he shows it WELL in limbo.

fun fact: seokmin was a dance major in SOPA!!

i have to say as a dancer in training, seeing ur dance ranking videos actually help me so much to understand my own weakness and strengthness, so thank u for doing them

woah vernon is 8th 😳 i am shocked cause he's been a hidden performance team member along with woozi

@seventeenyeojachingu4205

3 жыл бұрын

i think maybe vernon’s more of a vibe/feels dancer than technical stuff? so he’s not ranked as high

@liilaclalilac

3 жыл бұрын

Vernon has one of the best beat and rhythm sense. He won dingo mafia bcs he can memorize the beat perfectly. Vernon rarely dance so it's hard to rank him in dance lol 😅

@yasyat5118

3 жыл бұрын

@@liilaclalilac agreed 👌

The most unnecessary disclaimer for true Carats: "Insulting the members...will not be tolerated." 🤗 As a relatively new Carat who's on carat stan twitter and r/seventeen, I can say that Carats will always have 1 bias and 12 bias wreckers, and whoever hurts any of our ot13 boys will have hell to pay... 💎

@melinghao1496

3 жыл бұрын

preach!!!

I can't agree more about your ranking!!! jeonghan has true shining development in these past few years, he is the member who has to dance for a longest time on stage in several SVT's choreo (like HIT, CALL CALL CALL). and our boy DK, shout out to him, please give him the recognition that he deserves!!! I love his movement so so much, the flow is amazing too. Especially in Good to me era, I honestly refer his fancam even more than Hoshi's, which is really rare since Hoshi's the dance god for me! Love this video so much, thank you for spending your time!!!

A couple of things I want to talk about; First things first, I hope you are feeling better

Seungkwan is a very good dancer tho, its just the average standard within svt that is already way higher than normal tbh they're just a whole team of insane performers. Seungkwan is very good at making each move very distinct and clear too, and other idols who try to learn svt choreo for cover for exemple have often used his fancams for reference specifically, since his moves are clear and easy to follow

as a carat since debut, i am so proud for each member especially hoshi..we know hoshi as leader performance team but not all of us know what's his main strengths or advantage as main dancer and nowwww we know :) and seventeen with 13 members still can be one of the most synchronised kpop group is just amazing as always

for dino, i think he's one of the greatest dancer in kpop industry if not the whole music industry itself. i think carats especially need to start appreciating his hardwork. i am no dancer but bro anyone can tell he hit all the moves perfectly. hoshi is seriously so so good too. his fluidity in his moves and his expression. he was never overdo anything n never limit his move. i always thought svt doesn't have much opportunity to show their dance skill individually. the only time they show is during the dance battle in idol room which i think doesn't give much justice to every member since they make it as a joke. n please carats go watch dino danceology and the8's dance they are so good in that.

@xiaoxiao3260

Жыл бұрын

It's difficult to ranks them when they're all such good dancers. Your comments is 2 years ago but Dino is getting so much recognition now and doing great.

the only thing that surprised me was that vernon ranked lower than i expected, i expected him to be 6th or 7th, but it makes sense, especially when it comes to idol dancing!! just out of curiosity, where would you draw the line for those who are good enough to be in other kpop group’s dance line under 3rd and/or 4th gen standards? i know you said dk could be a lead dancer under 4th gen standards, so is that where you would draw the line? what about for 3rd gen? thanks for this amazing video!!

@jwwhjs1939

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah vernon was in performance unit before and ngl he should be rank higher but im not a dancer im just their viewer

@labota249

3 жыл бұрын

Yea I would have put Vernon above Jeonghan if I were to make a video but I do think Jeonghan has improved a lot in the last couple years

@vernonIover

3 жыл бұрын

@@labota249 yeah me too, but i can see the argument that jeonghan is a better idol dancer but vernon is a better dancer

@deavicky9185

3 жыл бұрын

Agree

@matchawooz5929

3 жыл бұрын

yeaaahh.. I'm agree with you too!! My list of best dancer in SVT usually is that top four for PerfTeam and 5th is Woozi and then 6th is Vernon! but I couldn't denying Jeonghan improvement too, so I guess this kinda accurate >

i want to say that jun in the world era and even now is really good with the facials and expressions

Eventhough Joshua always at 13th place (12th in this video which is quite rare), But his expression when performing is getting better, especially when he got his center part where all the attention will definitely goes to him. L&R era is definitely his peak, and he's glowing

Among all of 3rd gen of K-Pop, Seventeen is still the best one at dancing and performance. We can't compare 3rd gen (dance perform) to 4th gen, since the market focus is différent, but Seventeen is another one and still on top.

i don't think Dino overdanced. the better term is "Extend" he was extending his movement to give the eyes of the audience the balance and synchronized illusion. And that made him a really smart dancer. ♥️💎

They're all an amazing dancers 😊❣️❣️but I feel sad for Junie's waist injury and when I came to know about it, I realised why his waist or hip movements sometimes seem stiff 😭but despite that his dance moves are always satisfying to watch...his body proportions especially is perfect to make any movement perfect 😍❤️❤️

I think we all knew who was gonna be first, the leader of performance team himself.....

I love how each member of performance unit has their own style and speciality. I love when they incorporate little b boy moves into the choreo for The8 like his spin at the end of home run. Seriously impressive! Jun suits elegant styles so well. I remember the first time I watched the Thanks mv and there's a shot of Jun doing this one move that was so beautiful and elegant my jaw dropped. I've really enjoyed Dino's dance videos. He has such power and great facial expressions. One of my favorite Hoshi clips is one of him dancing to this song I think it's called bad. His dancing is soo smooth and satisfying to watch. He makes it looks so easy and effortless. I just really love this group. Their performances are some of the best in the industry. Even as their "worst" dancer Seungkwan is such a competent dancer. I absolutely love how he executes his lil solo dance move in Fear.

Hoshi is master of "stage presence" in seventeen live stage.. In my opinion..Hoshi and Woozi is best all rounder idol in Kpop boy group.. He is just amazing multitalent idol.. Whoever your bias you can't look away from him in live stage..His line, energy, and facial expression was deadly.. If we combine it with his voice we can see paradise now.. (for me Hoshi's voice is the most addictive voice in seventeen..almost like signature)

I always think that DK definitely could be a lead dancer of other group.

I hope that your health becomes better over the next few days if not weeks! I'm pretty sure we, the viewers, can wait a while for the next video as your health is way more important

Vernon should be ranked higher 😭 I will give my HONEST opinion now. He has ease with all of his moves and hides any struggle. LOOK AT ALL HIS FREAKING FANCAMS!!!!! HE DOES NOT OPEN HIS MOUTH TO BREATHE THIS MAN IS A GENIUS. Also, I feel like he stops going over board at times to not surpass the ability of the other members. He uses all of his muscles to dance etc. It even comes down to the simple things like floor movement, when he needs to get up he does not use his arms to push up to get up while the other members do. He as a unique aura that just draws you too him, he is so satisfying to watch and is such an incredible dancer!

@ll2960

Жыл бұрын

Finally a fan who is not biased, thank you

@nicolebelit1

Жыл бұрын

@@ll2960 🖤🤍

jeonghan is literally soo good at dancing. Theres not a single member in seventeen who isnt good tbh

I love watching dino and hoshi’s facial expressions when they dance theyre so amazing

I consider hoshi's sharpness in dance is the best among kpop idols. I've never seen someone sharper than hosh

Insightful and interesting analysis, thank you! :) also funfact: DK actually majored in dance

@jalankaki5138

3 жыл бұрын

Yup. The main vocal who is great in dancing and variety.

I'm glad Dino ranked so high because he is my favourite dancer in svt - his isolations are so good he's always the one I watch when I want to learn an svt choreography

I'm surprised how low Vernon is ranked. I personally feel he has the cleanest leg movements and very good control.

@eliyav1809

2 жыл бұрын

absolutely say it louder

@mawie2023

11 ай бұрын

His leg movement and foot work is definitely to die for

I had to laugh about the fact that all my biases (seungkwan, joshua, mingyu and wonwoo) are at the very bottom, it was just funny to me idk why

i like how the word over dance is used on the dancers who actually know how to give energ during a dance *sarcasm* hip hop, krump etc requires more energy its not over dancing

Is it just me or Vernon has the smoothest dance he almost the same level as lead dancers, it’s just so satisfying watching his dance and after incomplete concert you can see how much they put him in dance breaks and center . I don’t know he and Dino are so satisfying to watch

@atlg6435

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you. On my own observation, perf unit + woozi + vernon is the ultimate dance combos in SVT... like for dance breaks and when it's like they're trying to highlight a choreo. I often see Vernon + Dino, Woozi + Dino, Hoshi + Jun, Jun + Minghao, Hoshi + Dino.

@pand0037

3 жыл бұрын

@@atlg6435 yes you can always see how in the hard dances there’s always hoshi in the middle and there’s Dino woozi the8 jun and Vernon are around him and same for others too always in dance break there’s vernon and woozi with them , I mean after all they used to be in performance team so it’s obvious. And I know it’s their opinion but u can’t change the fact that woozi and Vernon can be another’s groups main dancers

i think most carats first bias was hoshi. The first time i watched their performances, he was the one that i observed a lot, his dance is so perfect (idk how to say this, i'm not a dancer), he gave me a reason to start discovering svt as a whole

I wish dino's expressions/stage presence had been mentioned!!!!! He's INSAAAAANE

I agree with everything except I feel Hoshi is seconds and Dino is first. But its just personal preference coz I sometimes speachless seing Dino stage presence more that Hoshi..

@archietheredcat

3 жыл бұрын

*more than Hoshi

ahh ive been really looking forward to this and it's my bday so it's like a bonus! ty for the extra china line promo too and i hope your health improves!

@whiteravenkpopfan

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! Happy Birthday! 💙 🎁 💙

Now, on August 2022 I would say Jun is 2nd, The8 3rd and Dino 4th. Jun and The8 have improved a LOOOOOT

DINO and HOSHI are just incredible... I love seeing them dancing.

hoshi was voted as the 2nd best dancer in kpop next to kai and momo choosen by kpop idols and when their choreographer been asked who is the best idol without hesitation he answer hoshi..their is something about hoshi when he dance that overflowing charisma you can see it thru his eyes his passion for dancing eventhough he has the cutest face but when he dance he becomes a beast..🐯🔥

dino seriously grips me everytime i watch seventeen perform. especially in performance team songs his facial abilities are out of this world and unlike anything i've ever seen on any idol (especially idols his age range)

Dino not getting enough attention for how good he is should be a fucking crime

I love the fact that you promoted Jun's album in this video!

It's good that you picked up on Jun's stiffness at the waist. He actually has an old injury there that still affects him and he's talked about having to work harder to compensate and work around it

aside from performance unit, Woozi, Vernon and DK always impress me with their dancing skill

Man, early on in their career, they said jeonghan always stayed later to improve his dancing since he is slow in learning the steps. Look at the growth. He really *snapped*

The ranking is amazing and accurate Seventeen is such a talented group that even number 13 is an amazing dancer Thank you for the ranking And I pray that you heal through your health issues