Now I know why BooSeokSoon never seems to shut up. They need to show off their beautiful voices. 😂

I did check the comments, so it doesn’t look like that anyone told you that Hoshi was originally in the Vocal Unit when they were originally planning the unit organizations. Him and Woozi were in each other’s units before they switched and became the leader of their respective units

@sambradley8297

4 жыл бұрын

I know I had heard that somewhere recently. And that to me absolutely makes sense and I can see it.

@yj-oq3jh

4 жыл бұрын

so truee :(

@kuroejanairemi

3 жыл бұрын

How interesting! I didn't know that either, and I can see it too, Woozi does seem to be the best dancer after the 4 performance team members

@ladyleenlapatis7721

3 жыл бұрын

If only the members can be in 2/multiple units, their talents will clearly shine.

@nabi7052

3 жыл бұрын

@@ladyleenlapatis7721 ikr, but at least most members have a second focus.

“He’s been documented to do really high notes as well as whistle tones” **flashbacks to one fine day high note battle**

@AB-rl8iz

3 жыл бұрын

Omg I remember seeing that someone on Instagram but haven’t found the whole video on KZread! What show was it on again?

@cassorie

3 жыл бұрын

@@AB-rl8iz it's "One Fine Day" ep 4 : kzread.info/dash/bejne/pomCuc2dl9C1cZs.html

@AB-rl8iz

3 жыл бұрын

@@cassorie ooh thank you so much! Have a lovely day!

Hoshi will be extremely elated if he watches this video

@mariajohn2722

4 жыл бұрын

minnu kanakala hahah “naega hosh”

@marwakaddari5287

3 жыл бұрын

Maria John i can hear me saying it in my head

@AB-rl8iz

3 жыл бұрын

He really would be 😭

@potatoisbae4935

2 жыл бұрын

He does have an amazing vocal tone though

EXO’s Chen even mentioned Seungkwan when he was asked to name “vocalists he approves of”

This vid is amazinngg!!! Check out Jun's vocals when he's singing in Chinese. He's more comfortable singing with his mother tongue and his falsetto is precious! Scoups was originally trained to be a vocal, but he fell in love with HipHop. His voice is indeed powerful!!! I love it. And yess... Hoshi, despite being SVT performance leader, is the 6th secret member of seventeen vocal team. His position is lead vocal... And yes, it blew my mind when I learned this.

@hey_johnnyy

4 жыл бұрын

You mean "6th" ?

@lijemayne4287

4 жыл бұрын

@@hey_johnnyy aww yeah. 6th. Thanks~ hehehe

@kara1996

3 жыл бұрын

the only problem that i find about soonyoung’s voice is that his voice tends to strain in the higher ranges and he gets pretty shouty when he tries to force a high note. but he is a great vocalist anyways and the best lead vocalist svt could ask for, along with jihoon.

@mharvaelokutubo3761

Жыл бұрын

The only reason Hoshi isn’t in the vocal team is because his first and main skill is his outstanding dancing abilities. A lead vocalist being the leader of the performance team, Hoshi is truly an all-rounder and so amazing ❣️.

@tranhien1556

10 ай бұрын

Moon junwhi voice calms me down really, it's like a softy and blowing fall wind to me❤

People always say DK is #1 and I can see that because he has a good vocal color. And his tone is just so attractive. But Seungkwan always had better technique, their trainers always say so. However, in seventeen’s eyes they’re both equal.

@aminafavorskaya8755

3 жыл бұрын

It's funny but I always hear and read that Seungkwan vocal is #1. So, don't worry) For example, I prefer dk's voice and vocal, but I understand Seungkwan is somewhere better

@boosadan28

3 жыл бұрын

@@jejudo7434 watch seventeen project. It’s a reality show about their debut.

@el.c.8858

2 жыл бұрын

it’s weird i see people often alternate and say that one is better than the other

@boosadan28

2 жыл бұрын

@@el.c.8858 just goes to show how equally talented they are.

@Chloe-nr2uw

2 жыл бұрын

Took the words right out off my mouth! I completely agree

Dk stability while doing high notes while dancing never fails to amaze me. He is so consistent that when I see their live performances I’m always ALWAYS surprised, it’s crazy

If you haven't heard the song Trauma by the Hip Hop unit, Mingyu's vocals are pretty awesome in that! Nothing too technical but very unique

@quanzy121

4 жыл бұрын

Ugh That’s one of my fave songs 🥴

- Try looking up Jun's high notes in 24/7 and Lilili Yabbay? Also, check out his vocals on the Chinese show CYZJ! - Fun fact - S. Coups was originally a vocal!! - Hoshi is an amazing singer and that is a Fact - I once thought he was DK in my first listen of a song, he is THAT GOOD so it's great to see you acknowledge that! - GO DK GO DK GO DK GO DK (if you've watched their Pretty U special stage you know exactly what this refers to and will be hearing them chanting in your head as you read this lol) - SEUNGKWAN IS MY BIAS AND THAT IS FOR A HELLA GOOD REASON (if you can't tell, I was fangirl squealing during all of his singing clips and most, if not all, of his entire section.)

@Cherry_Latte17

4 жыл бұрын

IN PRETTY U STAGE THE DK FANCHANTS KEEPS ON LOOPING IN MY HEAD

@theyleavepeaceout1121

4 жыл бұрын

Yessssssssssss

@gdherrrr

4 жыл бұрын

Shattermirror I think you mean falsetto for Jun’s “high notes” but nonetheless, Jun is a vocal king

@Lunessi

4 жыл бұрын

I can hear GO DK on my head like, on loop

@w2174

4 жыл бұрын

Shattermirror jun’s notes in lilili yabbay aren’t really high notes they way you normally think. It’s falsetto.

I love how DK's voice always sounds so effortless

Dk's voice is my favorite of Seventeen

@mariajohn2722

4 жыл бұрын

이말라니 same with me, it’s just a little easier to listen to for me. But Boo is still an absolute legend

@keeks4914

2 жыл бұрын

@@hammy2636 I know he goes into falsetto most of the time.. Never really heard him strain tho??

@soujoudlouhichi9695

2 жыл бұрын

@@hammy2636 OK you're just a dk's hater I see you bring him down in all comments and replies if you don't like to see us praise his vocal just go away and for seungkwan no one say bad things about his vocal because we know that he is a vocal king along with dk so shut up

@jinxx8279

Жыл бұрын

@@hammy2636 not really his high notes seem stable

@vvd19

11 ай бұрын

@@keeks4914 Yes and Joshua too use falsetto to sing.. His specialty is to use falsetto technique to sing.. That's why he gets the most bridge part of the song to sing. I'm really sorry about explaining my thing but i just want to include joshua because he uses the same technique.😅

Wonwoo caught me off guard too when he sang. Like oh my god i didnt expected to love his singing voice this much

OMG did'n know S.coups had that voice. THE POTENTIAL

I wish Wonwoo could have some more vocal training. His singing voice will add a great flavour to SVT songs. And Jun as well, he seems love singing.

@Sandra-lu3ri

Жыл бұрын

yeah I love his voice!

@yazminrivera9870

4 ай бұрын

SO TRUEEEE

The same thing can be said about Jun: he has a wonderful falsetto, as you can hear in "Home" and has some covers you should listen to.

You commenting on how woozi can't get super loud or powerful and relating it to his height made me think of Pentagon's Jinho. He's one of my favourite vocalists (incredible range, versatility and technique, really good at conveying emotion through his voice, just in general a powerhouse all-rounder) and also around Woozi's height

@kirakiesel8416

4 жыл бұрын

Yes jinho is one of the best vocalists! He is sooo good and would be cool if he could rank pentagon aswell

@Lola-ui2zf

4 жыл бұрын

Oh yes Jinho,king!

I’d agree that Seungkwan is the best technically for vocals. You can tell he’s been singing for a long time and is always improving. A lot of the straining I heard from him was when they first debuted but I don’t hear it anymore.

You did my ult group I'm so thankful! DK is #1 for me but I I trust your judgement and reasoning and see your points a lot more compared to other KZreadrs. Can you try maybe doing NCT 127 or NCT Dream, preferably 127?

@sambradley8297

4 жыл бұрын

I'm definitely going to learn NCT 127, and do them, alot of people have requested them!

@krystalk343

4 жыл бұрын

I was going to request nct 127 too haha and then I saw your comment 😂

@lostinthedream706

4 жыл бұрын

@@sambradley8297 Thank you so much!

My oppinion 1. Seungkwan obviously cuz his techniques and voice is a bit higher than dk 2. Dk i love his voice a lot and yes his a power house of the vocal 3. Obviously Woozi i love his adlibs 4. Hoshi not because he's my bias but hoshi has that voice and range that any producer can play with his voice 5. Joshua I think too that Joshua is 5th among seventeen vocal cuz after listening their rocket song i convinced with his ability of techniques 6. Jeonghan his voice is the charm 7. Jun i think that what he played videos were his low vocals but i think jun has very unique voice but mostly sings in low but has higher vocal range than it seems cuz his Chinese version of dwc and lilili yabbay i think his range is higher than it seems 8. Scoups he's main rapper but yeah he got accepted in the company with his singing so he has that vocal Techniques and range but not up than jun i think that. 9. Wonwoo 10. Dino 11.the8 12. mingyu 13. Vernon Nice video and comments towards vocals keep it up👍👍

@jarafeedll6501

10 ай бұрын

You should also listen to 2minus1, double take, bss's 7pm and lauv's kids are born stars her voice is very versatile

would love for you to do an updated version of this video. a lot of them improved so much in these 3 years

Have you ever heard the song Rocket? Vernon actually sings most of the vocals in that song. Also if you ever seen the parts switch Vernon actually sang Woozi's part in Change up. However Vernon really prefers to be a rapper he was originally chosen as a member of the Performance Unit but asked to be switched to the Hip Hop Unit.

I do agree that SK has better technique in general... but is just me or is his voice starting to strain because of all those high notes... A part of me wishes for SVT to stop singing pretty you or maybe rearrange the song because of the potential damage it could cause SK's voice. Promise i am not hating, more of a little worried... Thanks for the great review. Cheers!!!

@sambradley8297

4 жыл бұрын

Its possible he is straining, to be honest with the head dominant mix he uses, he should always be pretty stable for that note.

@kicksb6729

4 жыл бұрын

I wrote a comment before reading yours and pretty much said the same thing. Lol.

@cigimon4

4 жыл бұрын

he did stop some time, i guess to recover and get better at not hurting himself

@anyway8691

3 жыл бұрын

His voice is more suitable for regular singing and dk's voice sounds more natural and more suitable for high notes

@esverker7018

3 жыл бұрын

I think he can sound strained because at that point in the performance he's been dancing for a while.

DK: sings People in audience: *SHOOK*

@MeguMegu1703

Жыл бұрын

seungkwan too, but the audience was more touched than shocked :"

Seungkwan’s voice was made for ballads, when I hear him in them I just wanna cry (in a good way lmao) also I actually prefer his vocal tone over DK’s, contrary to a lot of the comments, however in more upbeat songs i feel dk executes better

@sambradley8297

4 жыл бұрын

DK is for sure more versatile in terms of genres and he excels in high energy songs. But SK's technique is margenly superior. DK is just blessed with a naturally more maliable voice.

@cindy_carat5057

3 жыл бұрын

@@sambradley8297 But I hope people can appreciate Kwannie's vocal more. Like many fans said Kwan is better only because he has a better technique. But when he sings, he brings so much emotion in his singing that is just so beautiful to me. His masked singer performance just moved me so much~

@goup6037

3 жыл бұрын

Seungkwan has the best technique in SVT I think

@branduee

Жыл бұрын

I agree

to me, dokyeom’s unreal agility is what edges him out as a better vocalist than seungkwan (although they are both exceptional)

@triplej8666

Жыл бұрын

@@hammy2636 G4 you mean? No male kpop idol can even be resonant past C5 lol and seungkwan only supports G#4

Ive noticed that Seungkwan has now gotten better at doing the high note in pretty u. I was watching a few videos from their recent tour (one even from their page) and I noticed that the strain he had near the end of the note when they first performed the song is no longer there

YES I’VE BEEN LOOKING FOR A VIDEO LIKE THIS FOREVER THANK YOU SO MUCH I’m a singer myself and I love learning more about this kind of stuff and seeing other people’s opinions on it!!!

@sambradley8297

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for the kind reply!

@melodic_divya

4 жыл бұрын

Samuel Bradley yess of course!! I totally agree with your ranking and Seventeen is one of my ult groups so thank you for this!!

Thank you for this! Remember, he's talking about technique and vocal pedagogy. Not stylistic preferences.

@winx5065

3 жыл бұрын

omg thiss

Yess Hoshi's voice is spectacular.

Again, pretty spot on with the ranking 💯 Mingyu and Wonwoo to me are truly SVT’s biggest untapped potentials, in terms of vocal abilities. They just need more confidence and proper technique training, and they’ll go up the ranks for sure. You should check out Mingyu’s solo track ‘Like the Beginning’, he has a very creamy and soothing vocal tone that can really go places with a bit more range and consistency. Wonwoo’s voice is truly a gem - he’s evidently more confident at showcasing his vocals more than Mingyu, which means that he is already off to a good start. His soulful singing style has a lot of emotive potential that would sound amazing in ballads. As for the main vocals, I personally prefer DK’s vocals because as you’ve pointed out, he is extremely versatile and an absolute powerhouse. His voice naturally allows him to do a lot more things and his vocal stamina is literally insane. But yes, Seungkwan is more technically skilled given the type of voice that he has. With his position as the main vocal and the kinds of singing that he has to do, his voice evidently wears off slightly more often than DK. Great ranking tho!

@Lola-ui2zf

4 жыл бұрын

Wonwoo if given d chance can kill it with his voice

@Hellokitty_391

4 ай бұрын

Seems like you predicted the future bcz minwon has song tgt and it's a ballad song 😅

this video just made me even prouder of seungkwan and seokmin

I just recently started getting into Seventeen after watching Jun and The8 on CYZJ. I'm surprised how low Jun is ranked because his voice was one of my favorites from the show, but I guess it just goes to show how talented the other members are.

Fellow CARATS, please keep in mind that the clips included were probably not the only sources to inform the ranking. Given his very thorough and fair assessment, I’d say this guy has listened to many a recording of their vocal abilities and just chose some to include here. He also explicitly expresses that the members have potential to grow in their abilities, so it IS a snapshot of where they were when he posted. One thing I do wish he pointed out was the fact that SEVENTEEN often sings live and their choreographies are no joke. Some of the techniques that Seungkwan and DK employ are freaking hard just standing still. As a whole, SEVENTEEN is exceedingly above the average vocal skills of a kpop group.

Personally, Woozi's and DK's voices are my favourites in Seventeen. I always appreciate your videos, keep doing you!

@soonhoon6163

4 жыл бұрын

Meet too

@MeguMegu1703

Жыл бұрын

Seungkwan :"

hoshi, the underrated vocal 🤧❤ but he is getting the attention he deserves!! I'm soo proud of you 😭😭

@Hellokitty_391

4 ай бұрын

Pls listen to epik high song ft. hoshi titled "screen time" ;)

@yj-oq3jh

4 ай бұрын

@@Hellokitty_391 yess! I listened to it and it’s so good

SO happy to see Woozi (my bias) and Hoshi high on this list

I thought I was the only one who put Boo over DK lol

the videos used were from years ago, their vocals rn has improved SO MUCH.

i can’t choose between Seungkwan and DK for become the best one in vocal.. Seungkwan’s voice always makes me goosebumps while DK’s voice always makes me melting.. this duo thou *chef’s kiss 👌🏻

S.coups vocal is so underrated, wish he got more singing voice

This would be my ranking: 1. DK 2. Seungkwan 3. Woozi 4. Hoshi 5. Joshua 6. Jeonghan 7. Scoups 8. Jun 9. Wonwoo 10. Dino 11. Mingyu 12. The8 13. Vernon Found it hard to choose between Jun/Wonwoo and Dino/Mingyu/The8 but your ranking made so much sense

@jacksonmerrill2499

3 жыл бұрын

I’d switch DK and swungkwan

@zuri3528

3 жыл бұрын

@@jacksonmerrill2499 I think they're very interchangeable. I would even say they're tied 😂

@aqsah14

Жыл бұрын

@@zuri3528 not in technique

nevertheless, dk's voice is my favourite

@sambradley8297

4 жыл бұрын

Same 👍

They’ve really improved a lot the past few years, it’s amazing to see their growth

jun is very good with falsettos you should check out his cover of i’m sorry i love you because that song showed his vocal range 🧡

Dk voice is my favorite in svt his voice is the most attractive and he hits the notes easily without staining, I love Seungkwan voice too but he would come in close second for me

thank you so much for the beautiful and realistic analysis of seventeen's vocalization. I respect your ranking.

@sambradley8297

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much 😊

I like how you explained why you put each member in each ranking, it was really interesting to watch. I strongly believe that if s.coups had been trained in vocals instead of rap, he would’ve placed higher, because s.coups got into pledis by singing.

I feel like Seventeen are so famous for their dancing that their vocals and rap get overlooked, but to be able to sing that well and be that stable while dancing such insanely difficult choreo is beyond impressive to me. Seungkwan's voice is my favourite because it's so rich and full, but DK's voice is gorgeous too 💓

I know the ranking is already done but I thought i'd drop some members who are foreign singing in their mother tongue as i think their singing at least tonally changes slightly (though warning i'm not a musician at all so these clips may not add anything ;-;) *Joshua* Joshua - Breakeven kzread.info/dash/bejne/Ymuc0s5rnMKYdLQ.html Joshua - Just like a star kzread.info/dash/bejne/qZNpr8N8m5fZn8o.html Joshua [&Woozi] - Sunday morning kzread.info/dash/bejne/fH6ay7qzpbK4kaQ.html *Jun* Vocal unit & China line - 那些年 kzread.info/dash/bejne/eX2r2s-kZrOvdsY.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/eX2r2s-kZrOvdsY.html Jun - I'm sorry I love you kzread.info/dash/bejne/dZhnwbuqfbjTpbQ.html Jun - Crazy for you kzread.info/dash/bejne/rKWVrdSymZmphsY.html Jun's Lilil Yabbay falsetto as a bonus kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y3th1s58aKfZdLw.html Jun - The night is too dark kzread.info/dash/bejne/eGlh2NGxkaXNhrA.html Jun - Reflection of desire kzread.info/dash/bejne/aXWettNvqcizf5s.html *The8* Vocal unit & China line - 那些年 kzread.info/dash/bejne/eX2r2s-kZrOvdsY.html The8 - Dreams come true kzread.info/dash/bejne/iaWL29ujetCZiag.html The8 - Night and rain - The8 mostly raps in Chinese so its hard to find clips** Also in relation to Vernon's vocal confidence he was on one of those kid talent shows kzread.info/dash/bejne/k2Gbk7Kpm7O7drA.html when he was younger, sang and got kinda harshly criticized along the lines of you have no talent for singing [like in fairness to the judge Vernon wasn't good but the way it was phrased was apparently quite cold] Ironically they did a stage together years later with Vernon rapping and that judge [G.O.D's Kim Taewoo] singing pannative.blogspot.com/2016/06/a-stage-that-will-make-you-literally.html

Jun's voice is simply beautiful. I am sad that they didn't use it much on their svt songs. I also think that Jun loves singing more than dancing. I watched a show where he covered songs and it really sounded pleasant and clean. His voice invokes so much emotions. Even without understanding the language or the lyrics, the message that the song tried to convey resonates to those who hear it. Jun is known for his falsetto but I think that's not what his strong point really is. He can go higher, he has a technique and proper control. Maybe if he debuted as a vocal unit member, they would show us more of that. I can't forget that voice. I often watched his singing rather than his dancing, and as I check svt songs, I can't really hear Jun. I wish for him to join a Korean singing contest like Seungkwan, DK and Hoshi when they wore a mask. I hope that many people can finally see this side of Jun. I wish lots of people will also hear what I hear, will also feel what I felt and will also witness what I witnessed.

Yes it's true that #1 is Seungkwan and #2 is DK. I love DK and Woozi's voice the most but Seungkwan's tech is really the best of SVT

For me seventeen is one of the best group that has an amazing vocal, maybe individually their voice sound good but together they sounds like angels singing.

@tibnue8475

4 жыл бұрын

they’re one of the most all rounded groups

I am a Jeonghan bias and I have to agree with you! Jeonghan sounds great when he's within his range but he lacks versatility, I hope he'll be able to develop his vocal technique and really shines. There's this thing about Jeonghan that he can't scream, do you think it has anything to do with his vocal overall that makes him not being able to connect with his chest voice? By the way I hope to see your ranking on Apink's vocal! They've just had their latest comeback I think there's gonna be a whole lot of materials for you to check out. Apink's got great vocalists but Eunji's really famous for her voice so I'm really curios about your thoughts on the rest of the girls!

@skmo1004

3 жыл бұрын

Also a jeonghan bias, and personally I would put him a bit above Joshua because I think he’s a bit more expressive in his singing in general, I think he is starting to figure out connecting to chest voice too! Like the bit he has in hit with s.Coups, while layered, still shows the beginning to some power. I just think he isn’t getting opportunities to work on that with their part distributions/ maybe is nervous about seeking it out. I really hope he can take that road cause I adore his singing and want to hear some solo stuff from him (honestly give everybody solos, I need it)

@yodoquynh5597

3 жыл бұрын

Shelby Moore Around 2015 2016 he was very shy and kinda insecure about his voice/singing ability. I remember him saying he'd only sing alone in the bathroom and didn't want to sing in public. Lately he's been more confident, having duets and solos and now a cover, I'm just so proud of his growth. I hope he'll venture out even more.

@skmo1004

3 жыл бұрын

@@yodoquynh5597 awwhhh me too! what song did he cover?

@yodoquynh5597

3 жыл бұрын

@@skmo1004 he covered the song In my room by Yun Ddan Ddan!!

Joshua in 2 Minus 1 proves the point here (I would say Joshua tends to use that tone more as hes more comfortable with it considering the stamina, image, practice sessions, default vocal technique over the years, etc. As for jeonghan, that nasal feminine tone is like his voice itself - its not that he doesn't change it enough or thay hes more comfortable with it - even when he raps or sings more upbeat songs, his method of portrayal changes but his voice itself essentially remains the same)

Vernon being last just proves how good they are vocally

Vernon was joking in the first clip, he wasn't trying to sing hahdhahs

31:12 I'm so glad you added this! That seemed like the best display of seungkwan's vocal capabilities to me.

I think above all I love DK's voice Please do monsta x

I think Jun was too low on this list.

@zuzu6864

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, it shocked me a bit. I expected he would be in the top 7 at least.

@AnnikaLHipir

3 жыл бұрын

His voice is unique but his technique is not that good. He needs some more improvements

@rahgc4444

3 жыл бұрын

@@AnnikaLHipir I think based on the videos of Jun he showed, that it's not an accurate depiction of his vocal capability. No real or covers or even his solo live performances, which i think show more of his range. Especially his falsettos in Lilili Yabbay or 24/7.

@kara1996

3 жыл бұрын

his has an overall really good voice (showed in that one performance team perf) but he needs to work on his technique, so i could put him #9?

"Joshua and Jeonghan are very very similar" I laughed. Yes they are, in more ways than one lmao, there's a reason why they're called the twins. Anways, as a Jjongjjongiefan (Jeonghan stan), I have to comment that I think that Scoups has a better technique than Jeonghan (and Joshua). In his earlier days, Jeonghan had really bad breathing technique, making him often lose breath when doing harder choreos in the middle of a song. Also his pitch control used to be wobbly back in the day. Joshua does not have these hurdles; his voice is fuller, rounder, and it's more powerful maybe due to his better breathing technique. They've both improved a lot though, Jeonghan especially, now being center often.

It's been a while since I listened to Seventeen and now I miss them! Going to start listening to them again🤗. Also, S. Coups was major shock for me too. How did I not know about his voice?? Thanks for letting me discover my new bias wrecker

was really surprised you didn't talk about juns falsetto at all! (not sure if that's technically the right term, but it's what I've heard others use to describe it) id highly recommend his vocals in lilili yabbay, moonwalker and the Chinese version of thanks he did honestly even if it didn't change your ranking it would have been nice to see you acknowledge it in your justification. still liked the video though, it was really interesting to hear your thoughts :3

@sambradley8297

4 жыл бұрын

I keep hearing about this lilli yabbay song, so I checked out a jun focus of it. And I honestly didn't really hear or notice anything from it, I may have to listen again, but yeah on first listen I didn't see a great deal, but I keep hearing about Jun's falsetto, so maybe I missed something.

I mostly agree with your opinion. In my untrained ears, Seungkwan and DK are excellent vocalists, while Hoshi and Woozi show some vocal skills. On the other hand, no offense to Jeonghan and Joshua but I feel like their vocal skills leave a lot to desire because I think their mixing is non-existent and their supported range is quite weak for lead vocalists. imo the gap between Seung-DK and Jeong-Joshua is too big that I wish Jeong-Joshua trains harder to close the gap. The problem is it's quite hard to watch live performances in Kpop these days as every performance has a certain percentage of backtrack, causing vocalists to slack off and viewers to judge their true vocal skills.

@cristinaquito

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve never agreed with a comment more. Jeonghan’s and Joshua’s voices are very pleasant and they’re good singers, but there is quite a noticeable difference between them and boo and dk in majority of their songs. I do get surprised by Joshua’s falsetto sometimes tho.

Seungkwan is my first choice. FOREVER AND EVER! 😊

you should do an updated version! lately i think minghao, joshua, and dino have improved A LOT

@blessymariamathew4638

5 ай бұрын

Mingyu as well

For me Dk has a better technique than Seungkwan because he doesn't strain his vocals like Boo idk but it's just mine personal opinion

@btstrasharmyexo-lbaekiesha2776

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, his voice is always very powerfull and full whatever note he’s doing

@w2174

4 жыл бұрын

I agree with you DK sounds way more comfortable and has better technique in more areas imo

@karma322

4 жыл бұрын

sometimes when seungkwan sings high notes it sounds like something is stuck in his throat and he has slight issues with projection but seokmin is consistent and has a clearer tone

@deanneb6925

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I’ve heard Seungkwan go flat sometimes because of his tendency to pull chest voice, but DK is always on pitch. I’ve never once heard him go sharp or flat, but of course I could be wrong. They’re both phenomenal though, so it’s really all semantics.

@w2174

4 жыл бұрын

Deanne Bramers I agree Seungkwan’s projection when belting isn’t as good as Dokyeom’s it feels like it’s always near the limit.

Thank you for this professional unbiased ranking. Sometimes people have some sort of problem with objectively saying someone is better than someone else and confusing that with liking someone more than someone else. So I appreciate this a lot.

As a multifandom kpop fan, I've been thoroughly enjoying these videos. You seem to really know what you're talking about. Looking forward to watching other of my faves being discussed. Will you do bands as well, such as Day6, Onewe and The Rose?

@sambradley8297

4 жыл бұрын

I may do in the future yes, thank you very much for watching and enjoying!

Mingyu and Dino have improved a lot in the last three years! Face the Sun did so much for showing everyone’s vocal improvement, I really hope you liked the record, great video!

Need a 2022 update

DK and Seungkwan are first to me. I can't really decide cause they have different points. Their both are so talented I love them so much. DK is a powerhouse and his falsettos/head voice are better and Seungkwan is better at belts. But DK sang Seungkwan's notes in Clap and Very Nice and he did those so perfectly. I think he just doesn't use that part of his voice yet. I think he will get better over time. He also joined as a lead actor on XCalibur and after he got even better and stronger. And I also think some people prefer power over technique and some prefer technique over power. And every note that DK hits sound perfectly by tone in my opinion and I've never seen him strain more than couple of times. He's better at those for me. But Seungkwan obvs better at belting rn. He is also amazing.

@soobindoll9767

4 жыл бұрын

I agree

My opinion 1. DK (i really love his voice . So comfortable, high notes) 2. SEUNGKWANG (emotional , high notes) 3. WOOZI (so soft yet powerful) 4. HOSHI (unique voice) 5. JEONGHAN (angelic voice) 6. SCOUPS ( so soft for the main rapper,the fact that he auditioned for vocal,OK HE IS MY BIAS) 7. WONWOO (so deep,im getting emotional) 8. JOSHUA (so soft,beautiful.) 9. DINO (ok he can do everything.dance,sing,rap) 10. JUN (very very soft,falseto) 11. THE8 (cute .) 12. VERNON 13. MINGYU IN CONCLUSION ,,, THEY ALL CAN SINGGGGGGGGGGGG . THEY CAN DANCE , RAP, SING . STAN TALENT

@stanseventeencowards5185

3 жыл бұрын

U put a G on the end of Seungkwan haha

@carathae7983

3 жыл бұрын

@@stanseventeencowards5185 haha i dont even notice that ...

@stanseventeencowards5185

3 жыл бұрын

@@carathae7983 Sorry I didn't meant to be picky btw, we can call him Seungkwang from now on 😂

@carathae7983

3 жыл бұрын

@@stanseventeencowards5185 HAHA SEUNGKWANG suits him a lot .

@stanseventeencowards5185

3 жыл бұрын

@@carathae7983 Yes 🤣 my new bias in Seungkwang. Who's Seungkwan? Don't know him

Since I only see people comparing Dk's tone to Seungkwan's technique, I just want to say that Seungkwan's tone and colour has always been my favourite. His voice is so pretty and raspy so he is number 1 for me.

The way he says "wonwu" instead of "wonu" is really cute tho :)) Thankyou. We need more of this content 💕

@sambradley8297

4 жыл бұрын

Is the n not pronounced. Damn, oh well, I haven't heard it said out loud very much haha

@magroves

4 жыл бұрын

The n IS pronounced. Not the second w. It's Won rhymes with Ron ooh

as a hansol (vernon) stan who sings,, tysm for this 🥺🥺 including officially missing you was so nice to see and i’ve been riding for his vocal ability (albeit limited) it makes me so happy to see someone appreciate his ability !!!

I agree that Seungkwan’s vocal range is the best in seventeen, but I think DK’s voice has more flavor which makes it unique.

@tj.8924

2 жыл бұрын

@@hammy2636 op just said dk’s voice has more flavour lmfao nothing about the technique

@mb8456

Жыл бұрын

@hammy you seem like a dk hater. What's wrong with you? In every comment praising dk, you are giving the same reply.

Can you do day6 next

You're too nice, really, if I got that many people in my comments trying to make a point that *insert name* is better than *insert name 2* because of *absolutely biased opinions with no technical basis* I'd be driven insane lmao. Bless you, really.

@reniseung4101

4 жыл бұрын

I agree tbh but people have their opinions

@Arda-bz5je

4 жыл бұрын

Cateyy07 yeah they do but they’re irrelevant in this particular topic. He’s analyzing technical abilities, which are skills, which aren’t subjective. There’s a little opinion involved, ofc, like when two vocalists have similar skills but one has something he values more, but in general people in the comments are amateurs who shouldn’t rly have a say in that. Im saying this as a singer myself who is always trying to develop my technique.

@reniseung4101

4 жыл бұрын

@@Arda-bz5je yeah.. It seems that people will always be biased on who they think sounds better

Would you like to do a second vocal ranking of seventeen?

contrary to popular opinions, to me, jun...... *deserves* his current place because of a few things. while i'm completely aware that yes, he's got a beautiful voice, beautiful falsetto, amazing when he sings in chinese, i also believe that what he still needs to work on is mainly his placement. take a look at his solo cover: i'm sorry i love you, where he practically *shines* in his middle range/area with his voice, but when he goes higher, he starts belting with a very nasal placement, and while it works just fine, i think this is the main issue that kind of *limits* him in doing more things with his vocals. so yeah, jun's still a pretty good singer and i believe he would be able to get even more amazing if he keeps on practicing and improving!^^ p.s: i'm kind of throwing vocal terms frivolously here n there, so if there's anything pls cmiiw^^

@moonjunnie9865

3 жыл бұрын

I know right😔 People are sleeping on him

Love your all analysis of the groups so far. I know you are only doing groups that you are familiar with and I don't know if you listen to Pentagon, but if not can you please consider doing a video on them in the future? And also possibly NCT, Shinee, and Super Junior.

Check out Jun's Chinese cover of thank you. It shows more of his vocals then we ever see in seventeens songs

Thank you so much for this! I've recently stumbled across your channel and i'm loving it! please keep doing what you are doing :D LOVE SEVENTEEN!!!

You should check The8’s new song Falling down. He released it a couple of weeks ago and his vocals are amazing!!! I love your videos and I love the way you are explaining the reasonings behind the positions!

Loved this video, this closer look at their vocals is so interesting! I also thank you for cutting all these clips together, it enriches the ranking a lot :)

woww this is the best video about svt’s vocals that ive watched. thank you for taking the time to really study their voices well. im so proud of my bias seungkwan for being placed at #1 like yessss king.

this was amazing! i enjoyed hearing your informed opinions about these talented boys and their singing :’) it was especially nice to see someone appreciate the vocal abilities of all the members while recognizing their faults too. definitely interesting to see someone with similar opinions to me but with way more ability to prove their opinions lol!! ty again 💗❄️

1. DK 2. Seungkwan 3. Woozi 4. Hoshi 5. Joshua 6. Jeonghan 7. S.Coups 8. Jun 9. Wonwoo 10. Dino 11. The8 12. Mingyu 13. Vernon

@ednamodee

4 жыл бұрын

Ariiq Akbar 21 I would switch Jun with S.Coups

@ariiqakbar2149

4 жыл бұрын

Edna Mode just made your own rank lol

@ednamodee

4 жыл бұрын

Ariiq Akbar 21 no we basically have the same ranking but that’s who I would switch

This genuinely made me tear up!!! Thank you for such an incredibly detailed and insightful analysis!!! To think how these guys built themselves up with not much support from their company and grew together and seeing someone acknowledge their skills really made me beam. Thank you!

I HAVE A LOT TO SAY. But first, THANK YOU! I will only comment on DK and Seungkwan Tbh, you can interchange them in their ranks because of two reasons; 1. DK may be lacking less in technique compared to Seungkwan, BUT, the consistency is MASSIVE! You can count in your fingers the only times he slipped in support or had hiccups in technique. Yes he may have a harder time to hit Seungkwan's notes because he's a bit lacking, but his consistency in his supported range(especially in the upper range) is crazy. After all, consistency is one hell of a requirement as a better singer. 2. Seungkwan really blows DK away with his technique. But he's always going in and out technique. He drops support like crazy. I get disappointed sometimes but when he slays, HE SLAYS! It's true he really has a better technique but then if not fully utilized may be a bit of a problem. So I agree that you can interchange them depending on what perspective you look on to.

omg i just started stanning svt a few days ago and this is really helping me getting to know what their abilities are esp bc vocals is such an important aspect for me in liking a group ❤️❤️❤️ thank you, sam!

If Seungkwan hasn't developed his mixed then him and DK are pretty interchangeable, it just that Seungkwan's mixed makes them apart, their lower and upper register are quite the same in terms of development. 1. Seungkwan has a supported range of Eb3-G#4/A4. People might say he's straining more than DK because Seungkwan singing in the 5th octave more than DK. He has resonance that something DK doesn't have yet. He's underrated vocally, many people/carats usually put him below DK. 2. Dokyeom has a supported range of D3/Eb3-F#4/G4. He's not straining as much as Seungkwan because higher notes are usually given to Seungkwan since he usually using his falsetto to reach those notes to avoid strain. He's also singing in a narrow range it's like he's limiting his voice. I like his vocal color the most in Seventeen. 3. Woozi >= Hoshi >= Joshua 4. Jeonghan

@cosmicrailway7066

3 жыл бұрын

Agree, some carats discredit seungkwan's ability just because they prefer Dk's voice when there's a noticeable gap between them. Dk is kinda overrated technically.

@winx5065

3 жыл бұрын

thissssss

@terrencekelvin54

3 жыл бұрын

No hate to DK but agreed. There is a reason why Seungkwan got most of the praise as main vocal during their 17 debut project show. But DK is a great vocal nonetheless.

@cindy_carat5057

3 жыл бұрын

oh god thanks for speaking my mind. When I first heard Boo and Seokmin's voice, it's Boo's attracted me more than Seokmin tho Seokmin's voice sounds more clean and natural. I like how Kwan puts a special layer of emotion into his singing, it's something that I can't feel from Seokmin, but I think it's really up to preference. It's sad some comments about Kwan come off a bit harsh on him. He def improved a lot as well. Im happy to see many professional vocal coaches recognizing Kwan's talent and techniques as he deserves. You know how insanely good svt vocals are when two main vocalists can be both the 1st.

@cindy_carat5057

3 жыл бұрын

@Pinkii Lights Actually the third member I feel having the "potential" to be a well-developed vocalist is Dino. He has shown pretty decent use of technique in my opinion. It's just his passion is more on dancing (the best dancer in kpop after all), so hasn't spent time on real training in singing. He can rap very well too. He's only 21. This man needs more recognition seriously.

thank you for this video! I can see that you put a lot of thought into your content. I appreciate how clear and objective your standards are; it makes it easier for me to understand your rankings and I like it when I'm able to predict the next person because I've learned a lot from your previous videos. personally, I prefer dk's vocal color. but the list is very solid. thank you again :) looking forward to your future videos!

The comment section is so embarrassing. I wish I never bumped into this video.Before watching any vocal ranking videos , I felt svt and the fandom as a safe place.But sadly it is not now.The amount of carats willing to disrespect and trashtalk seungkwan to praise dk is so sad .Dk is an angel and he definitely does not need some stans in this comment section.

@aishanum

7 ай бұрын

Dk stans are so annoying. They are close to be his akgae

OMG, I can't agree more with your ranking, literally I have to clap my hands whenever their pictures reveal. Even though Mingyu is my bias, I personally love Hoshi's unique tone so so much, it touches my heart every single time. Follow by DK and S.coups and Woozi, I adore their voices from the bottom of my heart. I don't think it would make any change in your ranking but Vernon can hit some high notes (accidentally LOL) when he isn't joking around. And Mingyu's solo song "Like the Beginning" also show his improvement. Jun's highnotes in Lilili Yabbay are phenomenal and Minghao can sing in lower range in his solo stage in a Chinese program. I glad that they put efforts to improve their singing abilities. I put the links below for you to check out :) Mingyu - Like the beginning kzread.info/dash/bejne/iXdq2Kh7hMjXlqg.html Woozi - What kind of future kzread.info/dash/bejne/a2ysybmPkczWn5M.html The8 - Dreams come true kzread.info/dash/bejne/oqyIrpWoadewhNI.html

Thank you Sam for this very interesting analysis. You make it easy to understand, fun, can also feel your passion while doing this. Your piece made me appreciate their vocals more now, aside from being already one of my favorites. Still new to kpop, your Q&A made me curious about EXO.

i was wondering why there weren't more comments before realizing this video was uploaded hours ago. i'm looking forward to more of your uploads, i'm excited to hear you rank a female group's vocals.

I really enjoyed this, thank you so much!~

totally think Jun should have been higher, i wish his voice got more exposure in SVT songs so people would see it! 😁