Adv.Nxumalo your cross examination exposed Mthoko that he fabricated his testimony hence were lot of contradictions. Job well done.

@piniratshwene4574

Жыл бұрын

Ur dom Mthokozisi infact ur lying nxa

@stanleykhumalo5158

Жыл бұрын

Adv Nxumalo was very straight on point and asked questions based on statements that he Mthokozisi told the cops

This case is so easy everyone who was in the house must be jailed they will point out who shot Senzo

@innocenthapazari8699

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, LAW is stupid!

@ndabezinhledladla873

Жыл бұрын

That’s what i was always saying but ke umthetho unendlela owenza ngayo

@pearlmakhubu2180

Жыл бұрын

​@@innocenthapazari8699 south African law is stupid ngempela

Normally, Robbers don't just enter households and demand cellphones and money, they do that on the streets, and they don't allow their hostages to do as they please. Im worried dt these particular robbers don't even bother to search for other valuable items in the house, such laptops, jewelries, or car keys, etc. The robbery narrative does NOT make sense

@jacksonbonginkosikhohli7085

Жыл бұрын

You said it all

@innocenthapazari8699

Жыл бұрын

True. Whole story doesn't make sense @ all. In fact, so-called robbers seem to have gone away with nothing since even Mr Mthoko himself simply unplugged his cellphone from charger and put it into his pocket? It's simply a disgusting lie. Clearly their was never any intruder - they simply shot him amongst themselves.

@oskie37

Жыл бұрын

Exactly my point

@simphiwemkhize9475

Жыл бұрын

My bru don't complicate things now, these robbers were very reasonable and specifically looking for cellphones and money. They were not looking for any other valuables like iPads, laptops etc..😂😂😂

@wendymatoto6538

Жыл бұрын

​@@simphiwemkhize9475 😂😂😂

Thanks to Adv. Teffo who fought tooth and nail for the second docket to be considered as it was neglected for so long, yet it pointed to the people who were in the house ( who were protected) by the state if I may put it that way !

@nelisiwethwala512

Жыл бұрын

Adv.Mshololo and them who worked tirelessly to come to this far. It was hard because when they hit the core " they were harshly opposed" which led to Teffo stepping down because of the pressure put upon him! And eventually humiliated ( being arrested right in court in front of everyone and the country as well- watching) but anyway the drama is over.They deserve promotion on their work so smartly finished!!!

@siphesihlemqiniseni3013

Жыл бұрын

Well articulated miss Thwala

@ntando1692

Жыл бұрын

@@nelisiwethwala512 mshololo never fought for this she used this to delay the case she wanted to go read. Niyanyisa lomsholo nimthwele ngeqoma. She was more against teffo. Irelander

@mthokozisilanga4497

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Whatever people might say about Adv. Teffo, he is the pioneer of this case.

@SonOfTheSoil834

Жыл бұрын

Definitely protected and protected by NPA

Baloyi is fighting a loosing battle and he knows...impossible to secure conviction in thi matter.

Who in his/her right sense of mind will go for a cell phone under gun point. This witness is not serious.

@zvazvazva1270

Жыл бұрын

Esp when the intruder was specifically asking for the fone. Mthok is a joker

@goitsemodimoxiangxhilingla569

Жыл бұрын

He's saying that to avoid a question as why didn't they take your cellphone...he was scared running for his life ... He was brave to go and get his phone in front of same person he was scared of ... Court is not stupid ... State owe those 5 people our tax down the drain

@TheLan70

Жыл бұрын

😂😂

@noloyisononyongo1202

Жыл бұрын

Is the part of cross directions for me, But He never saw where the deceased was facing.

@user-or6yg2jr4f

Жыл бұрын

Umshololo ubephapha shem

Why can't they ask Mthiko to say cell phone and money in English thst sounds like zulu sotho but more towards Zulu. I wanna hear.

@simphiwemkhize9475

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

Shout out to all the advocates who have shed light on the fabrication of the stories of Senzo's "best friends" / side chick... from the first defence advocate , we can see that the wintness is a joke , to the detriment of the state attorney , and the rest of the defence attorneys just have to polish up the shocling lack of credibility of the "first hand" witnesses, more of which are still to show face😅. For a lay man like myself i would appreciate more law experts sharing opinions about this court proceedings so we dont have to rely on our own deficient judgements, for the following decade of this mess

Ai Mthoko... How can you remember things that don't concern you and forgot those that matters most to you.

These intruders were highly lenient. Allowd mthoko to take his cell phone and still allow him pass through them carrying the phone. Something is not make sure🤔does he listen to himself?

@innocenthapazari8699

Жыл бұрын

Do you really think he earnestly expects any conviction here? I doubt very much; & I don't believe Adv Baloyi is that dumb. The Adv may just just be doing his job nothing much. If anything, the whole mess seems to come from the police (i.e., the investigators) - and that is where almost all the mess we see in Courts usually comes from (corruption!).

@stanleykhumalo5158

Жыл бұрын

Imagine robbers enter the house demand cellphones and money but don't take even a single cellphone

@mandlajnrgmail.youresomadi5267

Жыл бұрын

Very funny🤣🤣🤣

@julietmwanza

Жыл бұрын

I'm confused is this Senzo musician?or it's another one

so in other words longwe twala is the intruder who shot senzo he came and cause havoc...accidently killed senzo inthe process 😢

@lyma3880

Жыл бұрын

Yes because he wanted to shoot the other thwala who slept with Zandi at Senzos place

Tumelo didnt know fire-arms when asked by Mushololo but agrees he knows fire-arms when asked by Baloyi

Come on Mshololo! Today you are not your self. You are not picking the mistakes from this guy. Firstly he said he jumped over the small gate now he's changing he jumped over the wall.

@nodasaholdings5026

Жыл бұрын

I think she is on top of her game, there are things that need not to be elaborated further, her job is to discredit Witness testimony nothing more

@lufunonemakonde4178

Жыл бұрын

If I'm not mistaken the witness said he jumped the wall and landed next to the small gate on the neighbors side

@noloyisononyongo1202

Жыл бұрын

He went through an open space( supposedly the gate) but ngoba alikho then jumped a wall yaka makhelwane

@Siba_02

Жыл бұрын

He jumped the wall on his way back. Because I remember even the judge wanted an explanation of which gate, you mean pedestrian gate? Then he said yes.

@mandy7168

Жыл бұрын

@@lufunonemakonde4178 true that

We need next witness now we r fine ngawe mthoko

When this incident took place , Senzo was an athlete at his pick , probably the most physicaly fit of the lot , but for some reason he was tue slowest to run out of the house ?????

@innocenthapazari8699

Жыл бұрын

Also, is it not given/obvious that when one/people decide to wrestle a robber holding a gun they simply go for the gun; not even this clatch beating? So, how do you have 4/5/6 people fighting/wrestling one (1) person with a gun (for whatever duration) and then same guy still manages to shot only one (1) person and just walk away?

@nomfundontshangase8124

Жыл бұрын

Very interesting indeed imagine!

the intruders carried on with the robbery. Not knowing who the two cars parked outside belong to. With the possibility that Longwe can fetch a weapon in the car or alert the community. Well rehearsed but cracks will show with time.

@tsheposebakile5066

Жыл бұрын

There are no cracks here....

@nonikomaluleks317

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you

@melusikubeka8832

Жыл бұрын

​@@nonikomaluleks317 tpllpppppp

@TheLan70

Жыл бұрын

Fully agreed

It's so strange how Longwe Thwala 's name is not popping up in all this from the people who was in the kitchen he was not there where was he?

@Lindokzn

Жыл бұрын

The narrative makes him the first person to leave the house so that he is mentioned nowhere as the story unfolds.

Can I just be posted in this court for a day nje I’m sure I’d render better interpreting services

@IsaacKobese

Жыл бұрын

Are you court interpreter?

The first intruder asked money and cell phones with a gun in his hand, but Mthoko were able to take his phone Infront of the intruder, how?

@bonginkositwala6206

Жыл бұрын

Amazing!🙈

@tsheposebakile5066

Жыл бұрын

The phon was on top of the TV. The TV was not infront of thr intruder...that ws a lame question

@simphiwemkhize9475

Жыл бұрын

​@@tsheposebakile5066 your IQ level is appalling

@tebogodaniel5624

Жыл бұрын

​@@tsheposebakile5066 the phone wa on TV stand not tv

@manelisidlamini4678

Жыл бұрын

I am always asking myself dat question 😢

Mshololo is emotional and her command of the language is average, which makes it difficult to ask questions properly.

@teammisstee4212

Жыл бұрын

bo lawyer bo bata ole fluent in english..yanong sa pala sekgowa in most of them

Mshololo is just a finisher the job was done by the 1st & 2nd already she was just doing it for formality

Vandag Mthoko will be Mshololized, she is so quick, sharp and straight to the point. kutanuka msuto, bindza lalela you will be schooled.

It means that he shot Senzo as he was walking out. He was facing Senzo at a close distance. Hence he ran out.

welcome Adv Mshololo i m r BIG fan

Im expecting our lovely SA to come up with the I dont know/ I cant recall Jam honouring the self proclaimed Twala himself

They were six in the house, the 2 intruders are the missing 2 from the story (L&K)

I love Mshololo❤

Longwe ran out before Senzo was harmed but he didn't call for help

Mzansi reality TV explain this thing better I will catch up there tonight ❤️❤️❤️❤️ and have my say

Mnisi and Mshololo dankooo,let's fight for Senzo

@mercyhopeventeleko3884

Жыл бұрын

They all did the best ever❤

@jessicabradley6657

Жыл бұрын

All the male did amazingly great mshololo was not prepared after a 6 months holiday.

@annamonaise8158

Жыл бұрын

@@jessicabradley6657 ... Yeah Mshololo was someone else today no maaan

@mduduzigumede5662

Жыл бұрын

I agree nam angikho happy ngo Mshololo today

That's my confusion about Baloyi. Whose side is he supposed to be anyway?✌️

Mshololo you are the best in top 10

there is a difference between when he talks about himself (matters of the assault) and when he refers to matters of the case before court..

This was the most untruthful witness l think he should be in court as an accused he is a suspect this one

I think 'if the truth doesn't come out, all of them.must go to prison same sentence same years inside.They can decide to tell the truth when they are all sitting in jail. IF one thinks he can fool the court or can fool the next of kin of Senzo and fool us listeners is just playing with his own time.This cast is just making people fools here.(You don't plan to kill somebody it doesn't matter what that person has done to you. . All of them life sentence. (Happy landing to them)

Welcome Advocate Mshololo.

I wonder how baloyi sleep at night 😢😢😢😢

Kelly Khumalo must just tell us the truth maaan, we are now tired.

@lulekasakwe7381

Жыл бұрын

Don’t rush coz Khumalo and Longwe will come at the end as we all know that “there power staring of Senzo’s death

@annamonaise8158

Жыл бұрын

@@lulekasakwe7381 true, just that this people are lying yoooo

@lulekasakwe7381

Жыл бұрын

@@annamonaise8158 There are lying indeed and their statements are different as well,it is so embarrassing 😳

Today Mthoko's consciousness will be MSHOLOLIZED, say this words in ta Tressure Shabalala's voice, it is so soothing

I wonder who will the next witness,,,,em very much disappointed by Mr Mthokozisi Thwala's testimony

This judge and Baloyi should be removed from this case

@isaacjamaar4794

Жыл бұрын

Why

Mshololo really struggled to cross examine Thwala, her fluency in English also let her down massively. I hope she will prepare better next time. Shouting and badgering a witness is also a sign of weakness

@christymogale9737

Жыл бұрын

No Twala wa tella .And he doesn’t even make sense

very sad but a lesson about , AMASAHA

@nomkhosibuthelezi1208

Жыл бұрын

Kunjalo abangani abakudlela umona

Adv Mshololo started slow then she went 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 hot like a hitter you never disappoint Avd Mshololo

Even me I can’t describe the gun I saw in 2018

The Second suspect is the one who tried opening Kelly's door and also ran after Thwala till he jumped next door

Well done Adv.Nxumalo

Mthoko is tired he no longer want to talk

Mthoko submit that his relationship with Tumelo is a sure sure (Hi! Hi!) If they come across each other.🤔. ? Is Tumelo not in witness protection in an undisclosed location 🤔??? Hi! Hi! Where???. I'm lost ☹️

Baloyi has Minister Naledi Pandoor's english I can imagine Willie Madisha's comments of whoorg nvnln smmvmbms on Pandor

@Boikanyo_M

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Mshololo missed another opportunity to question this guy if he drank 2 cans in 2 hrs

@mandlajnrgmail.youresomadi5267

Жыл бұрын

No.1 my brother👍

kuKhuphuka naye kamnandi okungu advocate Mshololo suka

@busidlamini8566

Жыл бұрын

Linzim leli cala bengfuna bavezwe ubuso laba

Can advocate Mshololo come and cross-examine me❤❤❤❤❤

I miss the Pit Bull Gerry Nel when he teared Oscar apart. This Mthokozizi would have learnt a lesson.

@oskie37

Жыл бұрын

I so wish too

😮 no man even a 14 year old would realize that Thwala is laying he even contradicts himself

I think he described the features of the firearm but now he just doesn't know the name of the firearm. That is why it was said to be a revolver but he can't name It

Wow this 2nd docket was full of juicy staff, the state really had a reason to hide it...

Is it possible to get those phone calls and recordings as evidence😮

@prisleygeises4107

Жыл бұрын

Yes it's possible

Why was Mthokozisi not asked to identify those who are in the dock?

@mandy7168

Жыл бұрын

I always ask myself that

@nomfundontshangase8124

Жыл бұрын

Why are they even there, I wonder what grounds are they holding them on!

@cyliamotsoenengzengele

Жыл бұрын

@@nomfundontshangase8124 exactly my question. Imagine we are told of two imtruders but they are 5 in the dock.

Is it over

Umshololo ngimthanda ngoba wenza sure ukhulumela phezulu uyazethemba futhi 🤞

Please 🙏 ask Dr Khoza y is he quiet, doesn't he cares about his player 😢

@nkosinoxolo3259

Жыл бұрын

What is he suppose to do? He wasn’t on the scene…

@refiloethutse3355

Жыл бұрын

P

@keithsimelane6139

Жыл бұрын

Let the law take its cos

@trustyguriras9607

Жыл бұрын

Dr Irwin khoza and chicco thwala both are Tanzanians and seems to be great mafias

“O ksalayo bekuno ukudubula phakathi “ where is officer mthethwa 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣our interpreter had a great time on that cross examination

No pressure on the wound to stop the bleeding. The whole towel over the wound decision doesn't make sense to me.

I can't wait to see also that the old granny (Kelly's Mom) would also lie or tell the truth..

What’s happening

Don't go there and there take those 2 guys out and put meiwas girl friend inside

Its either Kelly or Thwala

We call it kasi taal

What does the grany said about this whole incident, kelly's mom

Baloyi kodwa ai ungathi mthakathi

Did anyone highlight mthokozisi he might be arrested for testifying lies ?

"After the beating" part killed mele 😂😂😂

@nomfundontshangase8124

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💯

I am just suprised that the word my lord is used in the courts and there is no resistance from the religious people, expecting the people to have reacted the same way when Reason showed a picture of jesus carrying the naked woman

@diva-ks2nc

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

@diva-ks2nc

Жыл бұрын

Jesus caring the naked woman

@ttseabe1328

Жыл бұрын

There a huge difference between Lord and Lord......please do due deligence before attacking other peoples faity

😢

Sataflika sikhona isiZulusotho 😂😂kumnand e court

@casperkhambule

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂ay dis is anyaka nyaka court

@sindiswandinisa5645

Жыл бұрын

😅😅😅 yooo sise Katlehong not at Umlazi or Nkandla😅😅😅

Mthokos phone was flat but he asked Kelly's mother if the intruders were still there... How did he ask her?

@stanleykhumalo5158

Жыл бұрын

Mthokozisi's phone was empty but managed to call Mandisa crying and telling her that Senzo has been hurt

She could ask him 4 proper questions to discredit him easily. She ask a question and then give him an escape with the next.

I love this woman o mo tswere ka di washing 😅❤ Twala pasooop 😂

Mthoko knows her story or is trained well, not that he is arrogant. U Mshololo uthole abangangaye ubese phakeme kakhulu.😅

These intruders let 2 victims walk through the door with their cellphones. Wow

Mshololo next time should be number 2 or number 3 during cross examination please guys😊

Imina owenzela u my Lord I coffee ngithumeni

@siyabongahlatshwayo1400

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂 uyayazi i duty yakho

@simphiwemkhize9475

Жыл бұрын

Awumtshele Singela ukuthi akangasdakelwa yena

@nodasaholdings5026

Жыл бұрын

Ungayifaki I swekile Kulo coffee, he doesn't deserve it

@nyikosono-wp3qu

Жыл бұрын

Awufaki upoison ngani? Avele afe nje! 😂😂😂

How dd u take your phone on the charger hence they were demanded.?..lm sure since phone was on the it has charged enough to call police?...in hospital you used same phone to call.?Longwe need to be charged thn kelly nd rest charged for defeating hands of justice simple

What happened to the towel?

Into engibonayo ngabe kuncono kube bakhuluma iqiniso ngokwenzeka,Uma buvela ubufakazi bolwahlwa icala lokuphazamisa ukusebenza komthetho lokho abakucabangi itatement zabo nje zikhombisa ukuthi konke abakushoyo kungamanga

Nkebe bao bolaye those police maaan gaona mohola

It like mr mnisi didn't join the advocate's forum

Baloyi is fighting a losing battle because his last questions to Mthokozisi were not answered the way he expected

There's is that type of language ma'am

@mongalobillymoloto4411

Жыл бұрын

Only in Katlehong😂😂😂😂😂

Yaaas

Longwe n Kelly were angry after finding out tht Senzo sometimes sleeps with just Kelly 's sister called Zandile.

Drop the case down because you will be trouble you are not sure about t 7:07that issue

Advocate baloyo irritates me

@casperkhambule

Жыл бұрын

Same here nami ifollow u dis Mr vaselin😂unescefe

@trustyguriras9607

Жыл бұрын

Indeed

Mshololo and irreverent questions 😢

@mkasicharlesj9079

Жыл бұрын

If the objective is to demonstrate to the court that the witness is an uncompromising liar, then the questions cannot be deemed irrelevant.

@sindisiwemwelase8785

Жыл бұрын

Guys advocates did it for me ❤

@simphiwemkhize9475

Жыл бұрын

Why don't you ask your relevant questions?

@londisithole1547

Жыл бұрын

Advocate Teffo's puppets.

@glendamashaba3472

Жыл бұрын

@@mkasicharlesj9079 his medical history and records have nothing to do with the issue incasu

Lama witness kumele athole i memorex ngoba awakhumbuli

The state here act like the defence of the witnesses, who are they protecting

@silikay4392

Жыл бұрын

They are the state witnesses. So he is duty bound to protect them. Foolish as it may sound.

I believe that Senzo died on the scene...

@zvazvazva1270

Жыл бұрын

I agree that Senzo died on the spot. That was just a fatal gun wound if the bullet was not lodged. It's a shame if they could not persue the time roughly when the Z actually died. It's a shame. He must have been long dead

Mina ngithi ababoshwe bonke why bathulee iskhathi eside kangakaaa they deserve isgwebo sentambo labo

@elizabethandrsu369

Жыл бұрын

ZANELEtshili nam nditsho they must all go to prison same years sitting inside that next time must not plan the killing of a human being.I dont know whether they planned this , but looks like it.

The first intruder was short and have dread log on his head and she was carrying a gun, but we saw the eye withness show Guy that is toll , it's look confusing.