Scooters Can Be Dangerous - Why This Safety Feature Needs To Go Away

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The combined braking system that comes equipped on some scooters is supposed to be a safety feature. But in some riding scenarios it can actually cause you to crash. In this video I talk about the danders of combines braking systems.

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  • @GasWorksISO
    @GasWorksISO Жыл бұрын

    youtube.com/@QuasiMotard Drop on by his channel! Great scooter content!

  • @NobodyWhatsoever
    @NobodyWhatsoever Жыл бұрын

    I have to completely agree. So many safety features are taking for granted that the operator doesn't know what they're doing. The collision detection beeps because the people who made it assume the driver of the car will be looking at their phone instead of the road, else they realize how much time the infotainment system takes attention from the road (if you can't tell, I hate those things lol). Blind spot lights on mirror ends alert people who don't want to turn their heads and look. The list goes on and on and on. I keep realizing people stopped considering driving any vehicle as a skill. It's taken for granted, it's considered easy enough to ignore developing correct operation. I keep naysaying myself, but sometimes I think it could be worth while to be yet another person on the KZread front showing videos of out-right bad driving as examples, and trying to show things like how to do it properly when I can. But then, who wants to keep seeing dash cam footage from the same dude, going over the same stuff again and again lol

  • @grominwithrob1339
    @grominwithrob133911 ай бұрын

    I love quasimotards content. I bought the ADV150 because of his review and your content. Now I have about 5k on it. Such a great gas sipping comfortable cruiser.

  • @calbrock6302
    @calbrock6302 Жыл бұрын

    Quality Sunday night viewing again 👍🏻 and two videos this weekend!!! Cheers from the uk 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @bootz0409
    @bootz0409 Жыл бұрын

    100% agreed that many safety features (not all), can potentially cause crashes rather than prevent them. Honda did away with the linked braking setup on their VFR800 range from 2014 (8th Gen) and that is the bike I have. The only safety features this bike has is traction control and ABS. The linked brake feature is a smart system that works fine on tar roads but as you've very well evidenced in this clip, once the road surface deteriorates, that safety feature is in fact heightening the risk of accident. I agree that manufacturers should STOP adding these features which discourages proper learning and can provide inexperienced riders/ drivers with a false sense of security. Great vid! Excellent points raised. Well done! 👍

  • @newlife155
    @newlife1552 ай бұрын

    Well organized presentation. I am wiser now. Also I very much liked your ride through the country side.

  • @anishghosh9563
    @anishghosh9563 Жыл бұрын

    Also the auto start stop feature is pretty bad in scoots. On a bike if u press the clutch the bike will start automatically but on a scoot there's no clutch so when ever you twist the throttle (even not intentionally) the scoot will start and if you twist even more, good luck!! This exact thing happened when I was at a dealership someone was checking out a scooter. So the guy tried to take the scooter down from it's main stand by grabbing the handlebars, as he proceeded he somehow twisted the throttle a little and the scooter started and pulled itself forward which resulted the throttle to be more twisted and as you would expect the whole thing resulted in a broken fairing, the guy broke his hand and some glass window of the dealership was also gone.

  • @josephgeorgeejr7039

    @josephgeorgeejr7039

    5 ай бұрын

    Yea that sounds really wreckless and should really never happen, I guessing that fellow wasn't familiar with scooters, and cvts, and must be very accustomed to regular manual motorcycle.

  • @darrenmillard3964
    @darrenmillard3964 Жыл бұрын

    Great info, many thanks👍🇬🇧

  • @hankwojo
    @hankwojo Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I watch Quasi a lot. The man is a bundle of knowledge and his travel videos are top notch.

  • @paulb1383
    @paulb1383 Жыл бұрын

    Did not know this...thanks for the info!

  • @steve00alt70
    @steve00alt70 Жыл бұрын

    ABS should be standard across all bikes now. They need to make combined braking system/linked brakes illegal.

  • @FranBunnyFFXII
    @FranBunnyFFXII Жыл бұрын

    A fair amount of Baggers/touring machines have linked brakes.

  • @kayak63red34
    @kayak63red347 ай бұрын

    You're right, without question. I have a Honda Passport '21 that I've turned off every 'safety' feature I can, but occasionally I get what you got in your Maverick, exactly. Not cool. I think the BMW GS 1200 '05 I had back then even had linked braking, honest to Pete. (and that's NOT a scooter🤣)

  • @Nate01693
    @Nate01693 Жыл бұрын

    What about a switch to turn it off? They have that for ABS right? How about a "Offroad" switch that turns both off with one switch? 🤔

  • @kazfleszar5899
    @kazfleszar589911 ай бұрын

    I do love this guy he s a man after my own hart just injoys his bike and don't make fun of anyone just loves the ride .like me.❤

  • @TrevorDodd-ev1sx
    @TrevorDodd-ev1sx10 ай бұрын

    I've ridden a Vespa GTS 300 from UK to Azerbaijan via Cyprus. I have crossed mountains and many roads I wouldn't have wanted to ride on with an adventure bike. The Vespa coped brilliantly. The one thing about scooters is that you think they are easy to ride , but in actuality they need more skill than you assume. I find my larger bikes easier to ride well than a scooter.

  • @michaelbrady9548
    @michaelbrady954810 ай бұрын

    We have them in our tracker trailers. It’s a pain in the arse at times.

  • @jubei6802
    @jubei6802 Жыл бұрын

    I think u can just undo the dual braking system. Switch out some tubing with nuts and yer done... not sure it works on every scoot though...✌️

  • @samcan9997
    @samcan9997 Жыл бұрын

    been as no ones mentioned it yet luinked breaks actual name is CBS or combined breaks and its a legal requirement to have in the EU since the euro 5 standard along with always on headlights CBS is nice for city/town riding but poor surface yeah its horrific as you have to rely on engine breaking which ive had cause my bike to start skipping before

  • @steveh7823
    @steveh7823 Жыл бұрын

    Not just the combo brakes. Also the inherent twitchy-ness of small scooter wheels, hitting brakes too hard, maybe turning at the same time, being off balance. Perhaps scooters should have steering dampers since any rut or thicker sand will flick the handlebars.

  • @AlfinoFr
    @AlfinoFr9 ай бұрын

    first thing I do with linked brake scooter is remove or jam the proportioning device altogether, although it is already rear biased. Learning from my experience riding on a very long downhill slope on a linked brake scoot, you can't really alternate the F/R brake. PLUS the CVT on 150CCs won't give you plenty of engine brake. So crashing due to overheating brake is a real issue. IMHO, it is not a safety feature, but rather a convenient feature .

  • @d.f.9064
    @d.f.9064 Жыл бұрын

    One day we will have to go back to old school totally manual because driving skills need to be developed to drive. Otherwise, just go all the way and make vehicles driverless.

  • @RebelCowboysRVs
    @RebelCowboysRVs Жыл бұрын

    I hate combined brakes. In the disabled rider community, people are consistently putting combined brakes on everything.I tried it, nope. Works ok on a trike I guess, but I want nothing to do with it on my bikes. Gravel on pavement is slick. In a normal day of riding I hit gravel on pavement more times than I can count. Many of which is at stop signs. I need the ability to stop using only the rear brake all the time. Otherwise I have no choice but run a stop sign or skid the front. I need the abilitty to let go of the front brake an skid the rear when some farm truck has spilled fresh gravel at a stop sign. Same with grass. I usually ride on sundays when a lot of people mow. 99% of the time its not a problem. But that one time you need to slow down on that stuff, its nice to have a rear brake only option.

  • @GasWorksISO

    @GasWorksISO

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m not a fan of any ‘rider aids’ unless they can be switched off. Except for ABS, and even then I only want it on the front brake.

  • @RebelCowboysRVs

    @RebelCowboysRVs

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GasWorksISO ABS can be switched off by releasing the brakes an reapplying them quickly. The system is programmed to assume a system failure an shut itself off if you pump the brakes after activation. Safety feature built in to a safety feature. Cars are programmed that way anyway. I assume bikes are too, but I have never owned an ABS bike to test. I played around a lot with it though in my truck after taking the class on it in college.

  • @Ziggy8750
    @Ziggy87507 ай бұрын

    So glad my 2024 adv does not do that, had me out in the garage checking 😂

  • @ontheway4034
    @ontheway4034 Жыл бұрын

    I do follow Quasimotard and I agree with what you're saying, but I believe Quasi was riding an older Honda PCX 150. I don't think it has combined braking.

  • @GasWorksISO

    @GasWorksISO

    Жыл бұрын

    He has said it does have combined braking.

  • @ontheway4034

    @ontheway4034

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GasWorksISO Sorry, I missed that. So, does the ADV150/160 have linked brakes as well?

  • @GasWorksISO

    @GasWorksISO

    Жыл бұрын

    It does not.

  • @positivelynegative9149
    @positivelynegative9149 Жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @yveslegrand9826
    @yveslegrand9826 Жыл бұрын

    Ridding a scooter "in the dirt"...BAD... ridding with ONE glove only ...BAD...scooter...BAD😂😂😂

  • @GasWorksISO

    @GasWorksISO

    Жыл бұрын

    Quasi was riding in the dirt because it’s part of the course for the scooter cannonball. It’s supposed to be challenging.

  • @MarianChicu
    @MarianChicu Жыл бұрын

    Cheap bikes that don't have ABS have this CBS thing - combined braking system -> which is probably the same linked braking system you're talking about.. So unfortunately it's ever so present .. Rider is still responsible for the technique.

  • @BradleyGibbs
    @BradleyGibbs Жыл бұрын

    You have a typo in your video description😉

  • @GasWorksISO

    @GasWorksISO

    Жыл бұрын

    😅 oh well.

  • @BradleyGibbs

    @BradleyGibbs

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GasWorksISO you can edit it in KZread studio without deleting the video 😉

  • @calbrock6302
    @calbrock6302 Жыл бұрын

    I always thought combined breaking systems were a poor man’s abs

  • @seller559
    @seller559 Жыл бұрын

    Hands and face slapping the ground. I see guys riding every day with no gloves.

  • @broderp
    @broderp Жыл бұрын

    I watched the video and my only thought is that they were riding way too fast for the situation. Any braking system, even the best ABS will not help much if you are exceeding the amount of grip available to the tires. I'm not sure what a scooter is even doing on a back road of dirt, rocks and loose gravel anyway..... Don't blame the manufacturer.

  • @Ziggy8750

    @Ziggy8750

    7 ай бұрын

    Those scoots are made for those kinda roads…operator error

  • @billm.2373
    @billm.2373 Жыл бұрын

    I've been in that exact situation a few times. The answer? Don't brake hard on gravel. Especially on a tabletop loaded with marbles. Don't penalize everyone because you screwed up. There's nothing wrong with combined braking - it saved me on many occasions. And I for one don't appreciate you putting down scooter riders. Next you'll be moaning about not having a clutch.

  • @GasWorksISO

    @GasWorksISO

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m riding a scooter in the video….

  • @mikecarr1484
    @mikecarr1484 Жыл бұрын

    Stop calling a scooter a motorcycle. Also it was pathetic when he said, "get this bike off my leg" . As if simply moving wouldn't release his leg. Lol. It's a scooter. It weighs only 200lbs. If you can't get out from that go sit on a couch somewhere to stay safe.

  • @GasWorksISO

    @GasWorksISO

    Жыл бұрын

    How’s it going “brother”?

  • @jaliyahbrock2195
    @jaliyahbrock219511 ай бұрын

    ☝️ Promo_SM

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