Scientific Statments Found in the Bible? | Andrew - Twinsburg, OH | Atheist Experience 22.15
The Atheist Experience 22.15 April 15, 2018 with Tracie Harris and Eric Murphy.
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Bible: "Behold, the sky is blue" Andrew: See, here God is teaching how nitrogen in the atmosphere refracts light and scatters photons. What incredible insight!
@ironmarc7881
2 жыл бұрын
Hahhahahahha
@TheTruthKiwi
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@schnoz2372
Жыл бұрын
Perfect analogy!
@Matin1999_unique
11 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 You nailed it.
*Tracie:* "Where does it say gravity?" *Caller:* "It doesn't." I seriously laughed until I cried.
@Stevenafoe
4 жыл бұрын
And not once, but twice..
@marasmusine
3 жыл бұрын
I would also have followed it up by asking what peer review process Jobe underwent, and what the methodology of the study was, and was it replicated.
"Pleyades are bound together by gravity" Yet the Earth is firmly supported by its pillars (Job 9:6)... Sure kiddo.
@owlstead
4 жыл бұрын
Well, one star in Orion's belt is 740 LY away from the other two (which are relatively close to each other, only 60 LY). If God's holding those together I would like to know how he does it, as it certainly cannot be gravity between those stars.
Stars in the belt of Orion are not really "in a line" or even close to each other. It just seems so from OUR point of view.
@rpg896
5 жыл бұрын
James Hadamik, they are not even stars but galaxies.
@jonnyroy2008
5 жыл бұрын
Orion's Belt stars....are stars. But there is a nebula in Orion's Sword.... See Wikipedia.
@Spartan300740
5 жыл бұрын
Correct !
@bigskypioneer1898
5 жыл бұрын
Not only that but American Christians tend to forget about the Southern Hemisphere .... the star constellations are different down there.
@stephenolan5539
5 жыл бұрын
To prevent war the galaxy is on Orion's belt.
Eratosthenes , a Greek mathematician, calculated the earth's circumference almost exactly, and knew the earth was round. This was around 200 BC.
Theist: I can prove my god exists Atheist: Okay, whatcya got? Theist: The bible says.... Atheist: Why should I trust the bible? Theist: god says so Atheist: Why should I believe in god? Theist: The bible says so Atheist: Why should I trust the bible? Theist: god says so Atheist: Yeah, that's what I thought
@halogen5580
5 жыл бұрын
Circular reason in a nutshell
There is no gravity holding together the Pleides or the belt of Orion. There's no relationship at all. They just happen to look that way from our point of view.
@owlstead
4 жыл бұрын
@Toughen Up, Fluffy Yeah, but there is a slight gap of 740 LY for the stars in Orion's belt. Although those stars do pull each other, their pull must be very weak indeed.I guess God will have some explaining to do when Rigel goes supernova anyway.
LOL "I'll give my best evidence for God--whale vomit."
@susiepittman601
3 жыл бұрын
HAHAHA!
@johnboettcher1962
2 жыл бұрын
OMG…. When I read your comment I thought you were being hyperbolic. But NO! You were being literal. Dude actually said that. 😂🤣
I like using the Bible to prove things. I used it to prove that God wants us to smoke pot. It says in the book of Acts the Stephen was stoned and God was pleased.
@normora877
4 жыл бұрын
Was god addressing gonorrhea in exodus? Lol
@susandavey2361
3 жыл бұрын
@Lorenza Semaj McCoy Jr. Which spoke 🙄😂
@Vlasko60
3 жыл бұрын
There you go. A better interpretation. Just wait till Christians use that to try to deny stoning.
@godlessolddude305
2 жыл бұрын
As a younger man, I had a friend who justified going to church because he 'understood' that god 'allowed' pot smoking.😂😂😂😂😂
@ironmarc7881
2 жыл бұрын
Hahahahhahahahha
Curious that the "word of" an all knowing god was no more scientifically accurate and no more moral than the people who were alive at the time. Wonder why that might be. *rolls eyes
@chrisbrooks4032
6 жыл бұрын
Erica Em That is a mystery lmao
@jameswest8280
6 жыл бұрын
'Cause god did it. Duh.
@lynettekomidar
6 жыл бұрын
That thought it what went round and round in my head before I found the Atheist Experience.
@stryker1195
5 жыл бұрын
@@lynettekomidar An all-knowing God spoke to them in a language He knew they would understand, given the science they already knew. It would have made no sense for the _Word of God_ to say to his people: _In the beginning there was the light, which in a vacuum has a precise value of 299792458 metres per second (approximately 3.00×10⁸ m/s)_ Also, explaining science would not have had any soul-redeeming value or revealed any kind of morality or the difference between good and evil.
@judyives1832
5 жыл бұрын
Ron Tucker That’s an lame excuse and a cop out. God didn’t have to explain quantum physics to them but he could have added to his list of “god rules”. Instead of saying don’t eat shell fish and don’t covet, he could have said “wash your hands before you eat, before you deliver a baby, or just wash your hands after going to the toilet.. This would have saved millions of lives. The biggest loss of life was through dysentery. You believe this god created germs right? So he would know that. Wouldn’t it have been nice if he had given people a “boil your water rule rather than a kill witches rule?
It's far easier to make a man believe in something foolish, than to convince him that he has been made a fool.
Andrew is like a cat. He get murdered every time he calls in yet keeps coming back for more. Imagine what he could achieve if he spent the same amount of time and energy on something useful.
@joshhamillmusic
Жыл бұрын
How is that like a cat? Haha
@830toAwesome
Жыл бұрын
@@joshhamillmusic Nine lives.
@joshhamillmusic
Жыл бұрын
@830toAwesome ah yeah of course! Haha
orions belt is not bound together by gravity, they are seperated by several light years
@ralfhaggstrom9862
5 жыл бұрын
And RIDICULED by religions .................
@susandavey2361
3 жыл бұрын
Also known as The Three Kings which follow the North star 🤔🤣🤣🤣
I think this is the best argument against the nonsensical interpretations of the holy books. Thank you Tracie for giving me the ammunition to use when I come across a Muslim again explaining the revelations in Quran.
@donaldcook2484
4 жыл бұрын
Nonsense nonsense nonsense wowwwww
Love it when Tracie is the lead
Clean break from that call. Tracie just knocks it all down and the caller ends on a thank you.
Two stars that appear adjacent, may be much farther apart than they appear. Look up parallax.
The Bible is scientific, snakes can really talk.
@ForumCat
2 жыл бұрын
Donkeys too.
Kinda weird that the Bible mention constellations by their Greek names, specially when the names come from Greek mythology.
These are the kind of people I am surrounded by in Ohio...
@vryusvin3905
6 жыл бұрын
Come to South Dakota... sigh.
@drewskininenine9141
6 жыл бұрын
Vryus Vin I can only imagine
@petereuk52
6 жыл бұрын
come to Europe. I am not saying we do not have idiots here but we are secular. Apart from a few imported religious morons from JW etc we are generally pretty nutcase free.
@kerryn6714
5 жыл бұрын
Kodi Krishna Come to Australia, there’s not a huge amount of bible bashers here. Well avoid Queensland, that’s Ken Ham country!
@davewilliams5102
5 жыл бұрын
Kodi...Great comment. Wanted you know they are also found in the other 49 states!
The stars in Orion's belt aren't even close to each other. They just look close to us
Let me find a few random verses and try to pigeon hole them into existing science.
This clip is Tracie at her best. Love it
Finally!! People who think like I do. I wish I could be as fast with retorts like these two and Matt. Love love love the content and I hope this show is around for many more years to come.
The thing is that Andrew listened to what Tracy told him but he didn't really hear what Tracy told him. He hung up the phone without changing one ridiculous belief in his head.
The 'east and west' thing is actually pretty anti-scientific, since it implies that east and west are very very far apart.
@brimerwelpippy4972
2 жыл бұрын
HAHA great point. For that to be true the earth would indeed need to be flat.
I found an old book that says some things are small. That statement obviously relates to quantum mechanics. Therefore, Zombie Jesus came back.
Here is what might have worked: "What binds us to the ground also binds the Moon to the Earth and the Earth to the Sun. Behold! Because it also speeds up time."
I love it that the verse is pretty different in Hebrew. Jew here :)
Andrew from Twinsburg is beginning to be my favorite caller. This is the same guy who called in and got horribly mauled by David Fitzgerald on the historicity of the Bible. His capacity for critical thinking is exceedingly poor when it comes to the Bible and he tries multiple flawed angles to defend it. He’s so easily impressed by the Bible that the flimsier arguments for it persuade him.
@TheSnoeedog
2 жыл бұрын
Andrew from Twinsburg is, as they say, *LOW HANGING FRUIT* 🤫🤯
I think you were being trolled. I kept waiting for him to quote the book of Babbabouie.
Actually "as far as the east is from the west, so far has he removed our transgressions from us" only works with a flat Earth, since East and West always meet.
Is that the same Alex coming back for more pummeling?
In Exodus chapter 20 just after the famous Ten Commandments, there are some more commandments that are not often mentioned by preachers, I assume, because they are silly. "And if thou wilt make me (God) an altar of stone, thou shalt not build it of hewn stone, for if thou lift up they tool upon it, thou hast polluted it. Neither shalt thou go up by steps into mine altar, that they nakedness be not discovered thereon." Apparently, putting one's tool on the altar is unhygienic and the priests didn't wear underpants.
@tedgrant2
2 жыл бұрын
@Robert Boland At last, somebody has got the joke
Andrew.... a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
@aceofleaf606
6 жыл бұрын
It had either already wasted away or was never capable of much thought to even be considered wasted.
@JamesRichardWiley
5 жыл бұрын
For the Creationist, the mind is a terrible thing. Stop.
@humbertojimmy
5 жыл бұрын
@@JamesRichardWiley It's the tool of the Devil, capable of the worst of things: to question.
As far as East is from the West implies that east and west are separate, right? But since the Earth is round, east and west stretch on until they connect. If you take it to the extreme, there's zero space there.
Funny line from Stephen King about Job from the TV miniseries Storm of the Century, After asking God why he had done everything to him, God eventually replied "Job, there is just something about you which pisses me off"
Does he not understand that the naming of many planets and constellations came from greek/roman mythology? Something that existed before christianity? Something we KNOW existed before christianity, because we know christianity replaced greek mythology, and about the 'last pythia of delphi'. The pleiades were the 7 daughters of Atlas. Orion was a greek huntsman... Could the bible have been referring the people from mythology? I don't see shit in that passage that says "the star cluster known as pleiades..."
"Let's go to Job..." "How about we go to Psalms..." "We could go to Corinthians..." This guy really doesn't get this, huh
@humbertojimmy
5 жыл бұрын
No he doesn't, not until his next move is: now let's go to *reality.*
@johnobrien1528
4 жыл бұрын
Good ole Romans, nothing beats Romans
Don’t forget that there would be not breathable air inside the stomach of a whale or a great fish
From memory in Revelations it says the star Wormwood will crash into the Earth destroying part of it. Anyone who knew the tiniest bit of science could never write that.
God created light. Caller: the bible is scientific and mentions protons.
The ancient greeks knew of the pleiates.
@ndrthrdr1
6 жыл бұрын
Yes, and we can see them, and Orion's belt, without telescopes. Also, they are moving apart.
@rationalmartian
5 жыл бұрын
They are major astronomical objects. They have been historically known, talked and written about for donkeys years. Before modern illumination, or when out in the country now, where there is no or minimal light pollution these things jump right out at one. Along with quite a few other very famous and historically recognised objects and constellations. BTW it is Pleiades. The Pleiades, or seven sisters is a fairly close constellation to us, and an obvious bright open cluster. I really don't imagine I need go on about Orion for fucks sake. When does this tool, and folk of his ilk think these were actually named? Does he think folk were blind going back in time. When after sunset it was bloody well dark. Or as dark as the moon allowed. Again, it is someone utterly clueless, talking about something he doesn't understand and has never given a thought about merely accepting bullshit someone else has baselessly asserted with not the first idea or thought regarding the veracity of the claim. Just a little critical circumspection should surely tell any reasonable adult that it is at best a baseless, and vague claim, at worst it is dishonest bullshit, and misleading gullible indoctrinated people.
@33melonpaws77
5 жыл бұрын
i mean yeah, by its name it sounds like they discovered it.
poor old Andrew, he calls in regularly with one crazy idea after another and every time he is defeated by logic and scientific facts. You might have thought he would use his energy on actually studying reality rather one stupid story book.
If you eat a fish, it could come out again in 3 days. Even changed color. It is a miracle.
@stephenolan5539
5 жыл бұрын
There are people who take scientific studies and then try and make them fit whatever they believe in. I say that it is no longer Science. They turned it into the same stuff I turned the last steak dinner I ate into. It was a steak dinner, now it is not. It was Science now it is not.
@c.guydubois8270
4 жыл бұрын
The Christmas poo.. IT'S A MIRACLE!
@cjdennis149
4 жыл бұрын
It only takes me a few hours.
@markwhitmore9326
3 жыл бұрын
Yes , but I can tell you , it tastes nothing like fish.
@otrondal
3 жыл бұрын
@@cjdennis149 Really, so you can see the difference between fish and other food in the poo? Its a miracle.
You don't need a telescope to see the Pleides or the belt of Orion, particularly in ancient times when light pollution wasn't much of an issue.
Wow, very nice examples of scientific statements in the Bible. Andrew, for god's sake THINK before you speak!
@ralfhaggstrom9862
5 жыл бұрын
" Believers " NEVER DO .................
Orions tousers will never fall down because he also wears the braces of sagittarius.
The east-west verse makes sense only if east and west never meet. On a globe , east becomes west if you go far enough. The authors indicated no concept of being on a sphere.
@stryker1195
5 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried to walk West on foot to take a "close-up" photograph of the horizon? You keep walking west and never get that close-up photograph of the horizon. It's always in the distance.
@pipMcDohl
Жыл бұрын
there is even two places on the globes where east and west do not apply instead of proving the earth is a sphere the argument was disproving it since the farthest point that we call west is on the other side of the planet when going further west would become a east. At that point the distane between east and west is zero. and the verse he refers to do not make sense anymore. it only work with the idea of a flat earth
@scienceexplains302
Жыл бұрын
@@stryker1195 Maybe once when I was very young (not for a photo, but same principle). I immediately realized that the top “edge” that I wanted to see was not an edge except from a certain vantage. A flat planet wouldn’t have a horizon, just a fade-out and some skylines
@stryker1195
Жыл бұрын
@@scienceexplains302 The Bible isn’t a book about oceanography. Its focus is about bringing people to salvation through Jesus Christ. The focus isn’t on describing everything about everything. Nowhere in the bible is the word “flat” used to describe the earth. But hold on: There a people today who believe the world is flat (the Flat Earthers Society). No doubt there were people in biblical times who thought the world was flat, too. This doesn’t mean ALL people in Biblical times thought the world was flat, let alone the authors of the Bible. It is very easy to read the descriptive words about the earth in the Bible and interpret the words to suggest flat-earth thinking (I get that) but doing so is only an equivocation. People who WANT to believe that the authors of the Bible thought the earth was flat are merely using their indifference to Christian beliefs to ridicule the Bible. Consider this: The fishing industry was huge in biblical times. It was not unusual to watch a fishing boat sail off in the distance to disappear over the horizon. But I suppose the flat-earthers in biblical times would be inclined to claim the fishing boat went off the edge. These were just people searching for an answer. However, if the boat returned to shore it was clear evidence that there was no edge. Myths about a flat earth were created when boats disappearing over the horizon didn’t return to shore, perhaps shipwrecked by storms or other disasters, even piracy.
@scienceexplains302
Жыл бұрын
@@stryker1195 Psalm 103:11-12, contrary to Andrew’s claim in this video, corresponds to a flat Earth. It is for verses such as P103:12 that I think the authors were flat-earthers. It is as simple as taking them at the simplest interpretation their text. I agree with you that it is easy to interpret these verses as pro-flat. Why didn’t you stop there? Instead you claimed equivocation. Your evidence for equivocation was to change the subject to ad hominem “indifference to Jesus.” Or maybe you don’t know what equivocation means. I don’t understand why you would try to tell me what you think I WANT to believe. You come off as either arrogant and ignorant or so uncomfortable with your argument that you include such fallacies *in order to reassure yourself,* because it sure isn’t going to convince anyone else of anything except your love of using fallacies.
Whales didn't evolve to digest golf balls and plastic gloves? Who knew?
Behold, even the moon has no brightness and the stars are not pure in his sight. The moon is not bright????? WTF? Stars are not pure could simply mean God sees their light as pale in comparison to him. Big freaking deal. As Eric said, you are trying to interpret science into a poem! If God had wanted to inspire science text, why do it that way when it can be interpreted poetically instead of scientifically?
As far as the east is from the west actually only makes sense with a flat earth cosmology. With a sphere, east, if you go far enough, becomes west and vice versa.
What Job says is 'Can you bind the cluster of the Pleiades, Or loose the belt of Orion?' Far from saying anything about the Pleiades being bound by gravity or anything else, it's merely pointing out that you can't do miracles. The guy's a nut.
The verse about "the east being far from the west" does NOT only work if the earth is round ya donut, it only works if the earth is FLAT! On a globe, East and West aren't places that can be far from each other, but rather directions of motion. You can get to the same place by going both east and west. But on a flat disk (which the biblical authors thought the world was) East and West are physical places, each at opposite ends of the flat earth. Within their fundamentally flawed cosmology, where the flat earth covered by a glass dome was the ENTIRE universe, the East and West edges were physically the farthest apart that anything in the universe could ever be.
I want to take Tracie out to a nice dinner and just talk to her.
@MrTwoCrows
3 жыл бұрын
Just listen. Not even talk. Just open the mind gate and let it flow.
The blue whale (The only whale large enough to in theory swallow a human whole,) does not have a throat large enough to allow a human to pass through. The sperm whale does have a throat large enough, but the way it's mouth is designed means that it also eats by tearing things apart and would never even attempt to swallow a human whole. As such, it is physically impossible to be swallowed whole by any whale let alone being able to survive. My partner believes that if the story of Jonah was supposed to be true, that the whale (or fish,) is an allegory for like a slave ship or something. Of course I have already explained to her that by that logic then the story just being fiction is more believable.
The idea of Orion being "bound together" is just a pretty transparent, overt reference to the shape of the constellation of Orion, which is a rough figure-8 shape; thats why why old astrologers/mystics talked about "Orions belt"- ie the narrow part of the constellation, where it kinda looks like the stars are "bound together".
..."this was written way before Subarus branding was designed"...
Tracie interrupted him (to clarify that he was jumping into nonsense) but if she hadn't, he was about to commit yet *another* fallacy: assuming the origin ( a mirror fallacy of assuming the consequence). He was gonna just assume that whatever he found "amazing" was done by God, instead of showing us how/why and proving that God even had anything to do with it at all.
We stick to the earth because invisible angels are pulling us & everything else down.
As a side note, Job history, including deities restoring the initial order put prohibiting from questioning why did they bring people into a misery in the first place, have many older parallels, for instance the Akkadian "Poem of the Righteous Sufferer" (Ludlul bel Nemeqi)
+Nick Nack; Your comment reminds me of a famous story via KZread"I Teach A Whale to Jump Out of its Tail". Lou from N.Y.U.
The stars in the Pleides or Orion's Belt are no where near each other. The Pleides appear as a cluster from our vantage point. Same for Orion's Belt.
I ate corn and a week later, I pooped it out. The corn was still alive and could grow new corn plants. IT'S A MIRACLE AND PROVES GOD EXISTS.
east and west have to meet at some point if the earth is round. so did super ghost man not remove our transgressions?
That one about the moon not being lit and the stars, that verse sounds like it's talking about in the character's eyes, like to him the moon is unlit.
I’ve written this regarding other posts that make the same claim about the stars in astronomical arrangement of stars that we call certain patterns of the stars the fact is that stars move in that they are often so far away from each of that they are not bound by gravity at least not in the way that you are implying. The stars are bound by gravity only to the galaxy not to each other. The stars move independently within the galaxy in a few thousand years or maybe 100,000 stars will be in completely different position and that of our recognizable astronomical features will still be there. Polaris the Northstar will not be the Northstar in a few hundred thousand years. So you know though they don’t the constellations are not bound by gravity.
@oscargordon
5 жыл бұрын
The Pleiades ARE currently bound by gravity to each other, although they are drifting apart. They formed together in a nebula similar to the Orion Nebula M42 about 100 million years ago and in about another 250 million years they will be dispersed enough that they will slowly all go their own way.
Those stars in a pattern are usually no where near each other.
I think Andrew isn't a troll. I think he actually believes these things
Futur science teacher... in the States.
If, and that's a big IF, there is ANY science in ANY religious scripture, make a discovery that we don't have yet! Good luck with that! Cheers
Now claiming a specific whale species is denoted in the Bible: "I forget what kind it was!"😂
LOL..."god" when I need a good laugh I come to hear these comedians
What scientist could get credit for writing anything so vague?
2:55 Caller - Psalms " 'As far east is from the west, so far has he removed our transgressions from them' - That verse only works if the Earth is round..." I wish this Christian caller would debate a Christian flat Earther on this, it would be SO interesting.
On a globe there can be no objective East or West, so, far from proving a global model, the quote can only be literally true on a flat Earth.
I really wish you guys would have done better to explain that the “observation” was that we can see stars that are always together on Orion’s belt. That observation is not remarkable. You said that sort of but it was painfully obvious you didn’t make it clear to the caller that you don’t need a telescope to see Orion
I like Andrew. He's more humble than most callers.
You DO realize the constellations were named by the Greeks in 270 BC....
You don't need a telescope to identify Orion or his "belt". Orion looks very much like a person. First, you should spot Orion's Belt, which is made of three bright stars in a straight line. ... His two shoulders are made of the stars Bellatrix and Betelgeuse. You can see Betelgeuse's reddishcolor without a telescope. Sooo... What is this guy talking about???
I died when the caller said, "God can take one of the worst smells in the world and turn it into a fantastic fragrance." Yup. Definitely trolling here... unless God has a perfume line I'm unaware of. I mean, we know *people* can do this, right? Where the hell did this clown see God do that?
Pastor Larry says that Jonah's three days in the whale, is a prophecy of Jesus spending three days dead.
I was stunned by the Ambergris twist! I really was! Praise be!
stars in Orions belt , closest stars are more than 450 light years apart...no gravity influences, furthest stars are more than 1700 light years apart , still no gravity influences.
@barkYdarkATFB
5 жыл бұрын
Everything with mass has gravity. Even we humans have a gravitational pull.
@stephenolan5539
5 жыл бұрын
@@barkYdarkATFB Yo mama...
@barkYdarkATFB
5 жыл бұрын
@Stephen Olan yes, actually. Yo mama as well. Although, based on mass, yo mama may have a bit more gravitational pull.
I always find it interesting how people find scientific evidence in the Bible, Koran, or other holy books. Yet no one found this evidence until after scientists discovered it. If these holy books had evidence, why didn't other people find it before scientists announced it years later.
Once again, Theist > My evidence for God, the Stories in the Bible. Atheist > My evidence for Superman, the Stories in the Comics.
Both constellations are visible to the naked eye.
The star part was an epic fail. The star cluster called the Pleiades is not being HELD together by gravity, it's being torn apart by the combination of gravity and acceleration/momentum/inertia. You could discover them without a telescope, so knowing their relative VISUAL positions is not impressive. Nextly, as others had mentioned... Orion's belt's stars are very far from each other, at around 800 light-years which is about the thickness of the disk of the Milky Way galaxy itself. The stars of the belt are not gravitationally bound. In fact, the reference to BINDING in Job 38:31 only meant with regard to the apparent BELT he is supposed to be wearing. It's almost as if the passage was ENTIRELY wrong about the actual physics, if you wanted to try to make it scientific. At least they got the name right. OH WAIT, that was wrong, or at least profoundly ambiguous as well, with the constellations named kesil and kimah, NOT pleiades nor orion.
God made it clear at the Tower of Babble when he altered our language, that he does not want us to communicate, cooperate or improve the quality of our lives through scientific research.
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Made clear by a fictional character in a fantasy story.
Also the caller is assuming that they wrote in english 3000 years ago. It was originally written in cuneiform then passed down to the Hebrew. And a few other languages then finally English and the people who translated it had to try to make it poetic.
One equation is all it would take but alas none are expressed.
Sperm whales have a throat diameter equal to that of a loaf of bread. They are known to swallow squid whole depending on size. Conceivably they could swallow a small human, but to remain undigested is a stretch. Sperm whales have teeth. Teeth are used to tear.
like adults talking to a child
He's shocked because your countering what his circle of influences have groomed him to believe.
God didnt turn ambergris in to perfume. Humans did. Dafuq? Thats like saying only god can turn trees in to wooden chairs.
So he's a Christian because of science or maybe he was a theist before he started school?
Orion's belt only looks like a belt from our angle it is an optical illusion. The stars in Orion's belt are millions of light years apart.
If the bible had anything scientific to say in the way this man claims, this knowledge wouldnt be "ahead of its time". It would be in its time. For some reason though, thats never the case.
(Luk 16:29) "Abraham said, 'They have Moses and the Prophets. They should listen to them!' (Luk 16:30) "But the rich man replied, 'No, father Abraham! But if someone from the dead went to them, they would repent.' (Luk 16:31) "Then Abraham told him, 'If your brothers do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded, even if someone were to rise from the dead.'"
Andrew drank a bottle of Wild Turkey and took a deep dive into his "holy" book. He woke up the next day and looked at his notes that he scribbled while drunk and thought to himself, "Finally, I'll show those atheists and scientists that the bible is all we need!". Sadly for Andrew, he was wrong.