The Economist: Size matters South Africa: Hold my faf

@Stillcantthinkofaname

4 жыл бұрын

Yup and Cheslin Kolbe 👏

@kiwikiwi7375

4 жыл бұрын

Bullsheetlatin Speaker cheslin weighs 86kg at his height. He’s small and nippy but is still built and will spend a lot of time in the gym. Same goes for Faf. Not to mention the size of the SA pack, England isn’t unique in building their players strength. The fact SA won today is completely irrelevant to the approach to fitness. England hammered the all blacks and prevented them playing their game, despite the fact the all blacks prefer mobility to strength as seen in the super rugby play style. SA played well on the day, England couldn’t play their game, that’s the end of it.

@loadshedding1910

4 жыл бұрын

@@kiwikiwi7375 I think he weighs 74 actually, according to rwc stats

@loadshedding1910

4 жыл бұрын

Which is very light actually

@kiwikiwi7375

4 жыл бұрын

shameeg johnson Klerk is around 84-88 ball park according to a few results. Kolbe has peaked at around 80

Hey Economist, I got four words for you: Kolbe and de Klerk

@samhargreaves4095

4 жыл бұрын

But they are actually pretty heavy, proving the Economist's point. In fact, Faf de Klerk weighs more than Jeremy Guscott did.

@francoisbeyers4844

4 жыл бұрын

#FACTS

@ragamuffin98

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed they are great players, but it’s the biggest and strongest forwards in the world who secure good ball for them.

@francoisbeyers4844

4 жыл бұрын

@@ragamuffin98 its true. But Cheslin and Faf have showen that size doesnt matter. They have tackel and taken balls away from much much bigger guys. Its thr hart of the player that counts alot.

@TJ-kj9ki

4 жыл бұрын

francois beyers Cheslin is pretty small. De Clerk isn’t. He is just short and hella stocky.

The economist: why size matters Faf de klerk: I'm about to end this man's career

@jalepenopvp2300

4 жыл бұрын

Cheslin kolbe: hold my beer

@evokesports3206

4 жыл бұрын

Faf:Uhm there's a reason they call me the giant slayer

RWC FINAL: Springbok Scrum = 900KG, England Scrum = 920KG Surprising, Springbok Scrum smashes England ???

@DavyBrando

4 жыл бұрын

Biltong and Braaivleis > Fish and Chips

@enochalifasi6719

4 жыл бұрын

Technique matters you git

@dve804

4 жыл бұрын

@@enochalifasi6719 I can see you weren't at school on the day they discussed the term 'sarcasm', but on the bright side, your limited vocabulary is quite charming in a boorish kind of way.

@enochalifasi6719

4 жыл бұрын

Pellican Pants don’t disguise your stupidity as sarcasm.

@dve804

4 жыл бұрын

Tafadzwa Alifasi A bit rich coming from you don’t you think?

HAHAHAHAGAHAHA *LAUGHS IN SOUTH AFRICAN*

@adanriaby768

4 жыл бұрын

@Tom G why the fuck are you here?

@tumidhlamini9011

4 жыл бұрын

South African isn't a language, Just saying

@alwaysoutlawed4462

4 жыл бұрын

@@tumidhlamini9011 ja, but stillll. I think this time we can forget about singeling out one of the 11 and just celebrate as a unit :)) whooooohooooo!!!

@chris5240

4 жыл бұрын

@@tumidhlamini9011 You can hear the accent though....

@tumidhlamini9011

4 жыл бұрын

@@chris5240 could you please elaborate on that

faf de klerk: am i a joke to you?

@user-jf2sg3fs4h

4 жыл бұрын

He's no joke, a honey badger in the rugby world.

@jamesgaminguy5382

4 жыл бұрын

Shane Williams feels left out

Cheslin Kolbe.(full stop)

@carisv2834

4 жыл бұрын

yes Indeed!

@alanb9443

4 жыл бұрын

2 player in the World Cup final are small guys. Out of 46. Most will be over 100 kgs, quoting one player small player means nothing in general trends.

@ezrabuckman2843

4 жыл бұрын

@@alanb9443 yet both of the smallest players are the stars

@aajafa4484

4 жыл бұрын

alan B thank you

@kiwikiwi7375

4 жыл бұрын

Ezra Buckman Colbe is a winger, he could only perform at his size on the wing, as his stop start acceleration is incredible. You put him in the centres he’d get hammered at his weight.

*Coughs in Cheslin Kolbe*

Kolbe: hold my beer Faf: hold my beer

@roryblake3232

4 жыл бұрын

And our biltong

@raphaelmoodley6692

4 жыл бұрын

@@roryblake3232 😂😂

@JosephCarter777

4 жыл бұрын

And my bells

Size will never matter in rugby the size of the heart that's what matter , Kolbe just showed us today 2019 world champions. ..

@thorstluda3545

4 жыл бұрын

moenier benjamin it will in the forwards for sure

@fidget2020

4 жыл бұрын

Of course size matters. Kolbe eg would never get the ball if his forwards couldn’t win it for his team in The first place! Size without heart and courage is less effective, of course, but size does matter. Lomu would not have been as destructive if he was Kolbe’s size. Itoje would not be as effective if he was 1.8m. Sinclair would not be as effective if he was 76kgs. Tuilagi is more effective at his weight than if he was 5-8kgs lighter.

@fidget2020

4 жыл бұрын

If size didn’t matter many players would not spend hours in the gym bulking up and adding Kgs.

@fidget2020

4 жыл бұрын

You’re thinking rugby league where all players are pretty much the same size. Rugby it’s all about size. Not going to be a great lock at 1.7m.

@evokesports3206

4 жыл бұрын

@@fidget2020 The English pavk weighed more than the South African pack to be fair

Cheslin Kolbe begs to differ 👀

That is the reason why South Africa win this world cup.

Economist: size matters Beer: faf my hold

@commentconnoisseur1001

4 жыл бұрын

no

Faf and Kolbe: You couldn't be more wrong

South Africa are the world champions 💪🏻💪🏻, lets talk about 3 bAby.🎊

tell that to Aaron smith, TJ Perenara et al. etc......that is why i love rugby....small players still have positions that they can play.

@kiwikiwi7375

4 жыл бұрын

Perenara is 6ft what are you on.

@Nick-18

4 жыл бұрын

That's why they play scrum half, not prop, hooker, lock, flank, senter. . . Typically your openside, scrum half and maybe one wing is smaller than the rest.

@toniocartonio572

4 жыл бұрын

Not to mention George Smith, Steffon Armitage and Heinrich Brussow

@Nick-18

4 жыл бұрын

@@toniocartonio572 George and Armitage is over 100kg, and brussow is close to it. By no means small

@kgahir12

4 жыл бұрын

That’s why ‘size matters’ doesn’t say being bigger helps, just outlines that size is important which it is, whether you’re big or small

Its no coincidence that injuries have risen since Rugby turned professional but this is also due to the fact that the players know that if they do get injured, they are on a contract and insured and will also recieve medical and physiotherapy assistance. That was never the case before hand, so players tend to make harder hits due to the evolution of sports science.

*Cheslin Kolbe has entered chat* *Owen Farrell has left the chat*

De Klerk, Kolbe, A Smith, Fukuoka, Matsushima, S Williams an many more: HOLD MY BEER

Well... This Seems To Be Aging Well Isn't It? Much Love From Mapimpi, Faf & Kolbe! SOUTH AFRICAAAAAAA!!!!!!!

@inathiningiza3137

4 жыл бұрын

Onikx Mapimpi is huge bro

@onikx

4 жыл бұрын

@@inathiningiza3137 Korea mtakwethu compared to the others, he looks like he is built like the average guy. But I could be wrong, I do wear spectacles 😂

@onikx

4 жыл бұрын

@@---675 I liked your comment bro, it's all love, love you too man. Even with my bitterness, it's all love, no malice at all man, I'm patriotic, don't think there's anything wrong with that, I think anyone would see that🤷🏾‍♂️ but I guess I was wrong wasn't I? But it's all love really, hope you had a blessed Sunday and pray you have an awesome and super productive week ahead God willing and Godspeed.

@onikx

4 жыл бұрын

@@---675 I'm not those people bro, I have nothing against patriots man, you're allowed to love your country🤷🏾‍♂️. The game was good and we were all entertained, like I said, no malice man, just banter is all.

@kba

4 жыл бұрын

@@---675 U mad bro?

Kolbe & Dr Klerk have a world cup without those size requirements...truly talented and dedicated!...ok'salayo sine World Cup with those 'tiny' ninjas

I really don't get what's the point of the video and why they have Rugby World Cup Final in the title when they didn't mention it once

4 жыл бұрын

Views but also because a lot of people commented about the size of the England players vs nz, pretty obvious they were conditioned very well and the players looked much bigger than the nz players who are typically quite big

@user-db6uf7wd4e

4 жыл бұрын

search engine, that is why

Size of heart over size of ego. Completely agree. Well done Bokke

Ardie Savea is probably the smallest forward but he’s probably one of the hardest to stop

@jasonbourne9819

4 жыл бұрын

@Lopel small for a number 8. Forwards are supposed to be the biggest and the most powerful players on the field. Savea is kinda big to the average joe but small on the rugby pitch.

Very interesting article. It's good to see rugby & NFL making an effort to try and reduce these injuries.

Ever heard of cheslin kolbe or faf de klerk. Cheslin kolbe weighing just 80 kg scored a try in finals where big huge English guys didn't even score 1 try.

Nobody told faf

You get a like for including University of the Western Cape footage in the uDubs all they way👍👍👍👍

@girin1512

4 жыл бұрын

Always nice to see South Africans early in the comments. Let's hope we can make those english bois see some umlilo tomorrow

Rugby is a game for all sizes, but we gotta admit that size gives you an advantage.

@SM-rf4vr

3 жыл бұрын

size and technique. Just like basketball.

Rugby is an 80 minute game, although it is highly physical the game is evolving and getting more technical. I believe size should be less of a priority in the modern game. Being from Wales where rugby is pretty much religious having played at various levels of rugby myself I have seen and played with so many naturally gifted rugby players (players who seem to quality that is unique and stands out consistently) but seem to get swept under the matt at age grade level because of size or growth pattern. A friend of mine mentioned a coach from a regional development coach said "we can teach skill, we can't teach size". I find this attitude rather arrogant and a bit 'anti rugby'. For rugby as a spectator sport we should be wanting to see more tries, faster paced rugby, more entertainment! What would rugby be without the little man? Player health and safety is another factor, if players are lighter the impact has less change of injury, there are so many players who's weight negatively affected they're careers... Leigh halfpenny for example, to be 5'10" and 14st is unhealthy, and it would have only reduced halfpenny's speed, agility and stamina. But this is the addiction to size, even if it suppresses the potential of the players.

Kolbe stepped around a bigger around him so size does matter if you want to sit and watch the boks win the trophy

@christiaangriesel8486

4 жыл бұрын

@@---675 okay buddy That's why kolbe tackled the big guys at this world cup.....he has quick feet😂😂😂😂😂

@ElChapo-dd6go

4 жыл бұрын

@@---675 jokes on you buddy he did. Kolbe has a 88% tackle success rate in the WC. And he played against the best wings around

@sydneysavanhu7818

4 жыл бұрын

@@---675 i dont recall him missing a tackle for the past 10 games

@sydneysavanhu7818

4 жыл бұрын

@@---675 let him who hasnt missed a cast the first stone

No one: Absolutely no one: The Economist with no rugby knowledge: Size does matter.

@draco_1876

4 жыл бұрын

It fucking does look at combat sports.

@professionalprocrastinator8103

4 жыл бұрын

People comment and make fun of the economist for choosing a sensationalistic title without even watching the doco. What is being dealt with is how size is related with trauma and injuries, not how size makes a player better or not.

Why use imperial and metric together, smh

South Africas forward pack was lighter than Englands forwards, yet they absolutely murdered them in the scrums and rucks. Cheslin Kolbe is 80kg (I'm a 90kg school boy winger) and he absolutely bounces out of tackles against the biggest guys

There are many other scientific variables when tackling. Centre of gravity, center of mass, technique and muscle/bone characteristics are important, not just mass and acceleration. Also some positions are less about being effective about in collisions and more about adding skills. Im a South African, so even though we have faf and kolbe, I would be remiss to ignore how much our size ,mass and strength has helped us win the trophy

Cheslin Kolbe: *visibly confused*

Big Jonah knew how to deal with the poms!

Being 6 foot 3 and only weighing 86 kgs it can be hard playing rugby sometimes but with my pace I enjoy 7’s and hopefully I can get up 90 kg soon.

Also players are allowed to run around other players. Like Cheslin does. Size can't tackle something that isn't there.

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The so-called "Laws" of the game, or rather the interpretation of them by referees are much at fault for the many ills of the game. I played for 19 years and never say a concussion happen...only heard of one and that to a fellow who had had 6 prior in motorcycle racing. The lack of what used to be a ruck or maul, those changes brought about by tackled players no longer having to release the ball "immediately" without attempt to play it, has meant that the defense with the exception of the jackal have little to do......So they spread out the field and there's no space to run to, so the required bigger players, who aren't required to release the ball immediately upon being tackled, now bash through. How does one bash through a defense of big players, by being bigger oneself. How does one stop a bigger player from bashing through your defense, out big him or create a massive collision into before he can get up a head of steam. The phase in coaching is now "win the collision"..... Every year for the past 12 years I have read and re-read the "laws" thinking I must have lost the ability to comprehend English, my native tongue. I note that among other things, the ball must be "placed or released immediately by a tackled player" and yet I count up to 9 seconds of a struggle for the ball with a jackle....Had the ball been released there'd not have been a struggle. The jackel is open game for a high collision clear out....his hands are in front of him and his ribs exposed. The Laws state that a player joining the ruck must be bound up to the armpit to a player on is team or the other already part of the ruck....that simply doesn't happen, its a shoulder charge into the jackel. I can go on about this stuff, like the penaties for making the opposition collapse the scrum, or at least break it up......Was that the purpose of the scrum? That used to be "QED dangerous play"......These and other matters like these require the larger players who need substitution in a shorter time game. Fitness and skill used to be prime qualities. Not so much any longer.

@kaisahfx1246

4 жыл бұрын

finally someone with an educated comment, nothing to add here! but, getting bloody penalised out of the game for losing at scrum time?? it's not a bloody offence to lose the scrum!! or to even have your scrum dominated!! what next getting penalised for losing the lineout!! and trust me I was going for South Africa but those rulings baffled me

I doubt that the number of concussions has gone up much, the rules for high tackles and dump tackles are a lot more strict now, which I’m sure helped. They also got a lot better, and stricter, in concussion detection

Faf just left the chat!

Also with the changed and modified laws over the years to make the game faster, and changed scoring system to encourage running game involving more high speed collisions.

The weights race in the professional arena ,has lead to players of a regular size across the field , producing a more automatic spectacle.

Faf De Klerk be like: I got hooooooooooooeeesssss

Cheslin and Faf: Hold my beer

Cheslin Kolbe just made this entire video redundant. Great content.

@charlesbreckell7726

4 жыл бұрын

But have you seen how physically big he is. And his weight.

@mikeoxmells-grimm8876

4 жыл бұрын

And faf de klerk

@DJ-ce3hq

4 жыл бұрын

This isn’t taking about height. It’s talking about weight

Rugby magazine headline 2019: Why are interest rates negative

Jonah Lomu was a 6 foot 5 inch 262:lb freight train who could run an 11 second 100 meter. He was rhe orginal beast mode 24 years ago

Watch the weight of the teams in the 2019 World Cup and watch him who won.

@dillynlakey6420

4 жыл бұрын

You are an idiot. 20kg is a massive difference in the scrum

@TheRockerRoller

4 жыл бұрын

Dillyn Lakey how strong they are individually makes a bigger difference in the scrum

scrums etc from the 80s/90s look a lot more brutal though

Lol I so love the thumbnail now lol

They need to wear soft pads and focus on tackling technique

It depends on position, flyhalf, scrumhalf, wingmen are generally smaller

Not bad, thanks, it's interesting to see the increase in size over just a couple of decades.

p=mv^2 not saying have a team of wingers, but since you brought in Newton ...thought I might leave this one here speed has a bigger impact than mass when trying to gain momentum and like Eddie Jones said.."Rugby is a momentum game" Good on you South Africa❤🔥🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦

I was going to leave a comment about Faf, then I realized half the comments are about him. lol

Cheslin Kolbe: NO

The "statistics" shown here are very specific and chosen to tell a story. The truth is rugby has become vastly safer due to regulations such as the evolution of the scrum (google a 20th century scrum - I beg you) and compulsory concussion tests. But, *it wouldn't be sensational if the story wasn't negative.* Thanks Economist.

The key problem in all of this is what happens after a player gets an injury - They play on. Regardless of if it’s a small knock, or a slight tear in a ligament, or if they’re in pain, the players continue to play on and this makes the injury worse. When a player has a big injury and can’t play for a certain amount of time, it seems like it was caused due to a big impact, for example they tore a ligament in their knee in a maul, but actually, it was because their injury got worse and worse as time went on and whatever the injury was just became too much for the body to continue playing on. Why do players do this? They do this because sports waits for no one. If your replacement has a great game, and continues to play great, even better than you whilst you’re in recovery, when you’re fit and ready you’ll come back to a position that’s not there for you anymore. Players withhold injuries from the medical staff because they know that if they put their hand up and say “I have an injury”, they’ll be on the bench, which is where no one wants to be. So this video is right, but if players were honest about their injuries and didn’t keep it a secret, the rate of injuries would be much lower. Much lower than what they are now, even with all the precautions they take

faf de klerk loves this video

size does matter

Tweak the rules, save the players. Set max weights per player. Adjust penalties for thinks like american football. Have a penalty box like in hockey for serious ones. I think the penalty box has the potential to make a lot of sports a heck of a lot more fun to watch.

@denisdaly1708

4 жыл бұрын

Just less substitutes

not really. Sure a lot of unions still push bigger players but we're seeing a shift especially in test rugby. Steve Hansen has been placing Ardie Savea at looseforward for most of this year and Rassie selecting Kwagga Smith a few times even though they are smaller than the avarage looseforward.

this is a prophetic video, The English Squad conceded a concussion within the first minutes

Rugby has always been a mix between brute force and innovative skill. The relative share of each skill in the international game will always ebb and flow but there will always be room for both in the game. The proof is in the world cup winning hug shared between Eben Etzebeth and Cheslin Kolbe. The Economist are right to highlight the increasing average size of players, the increasing severity of injury and the increasing prevalence of concussion, but the skill set in the average forward's locker has also been revolutionised. Just look at English prop Dan Cole's interview for Rising Sons where he describes changing from a player who didn't touch the ball and only scrummed to someone capable of (occasionally) throwing one handed switch passes.

The Economist must have never heard of Faf De Klerk aka the best scrum-half in the world😉

@sydneysavanhu7818

4 жыл бұрын

the economist should stick to what they know clearly they know a little about the game

have you guys seen faf

Newtons second law also states that size doesnt matter, if you have acceleration ;)

The Econmist: Size matters Rugby players hold my average height and weight of 6’2 and 230pounds ...... South Africa: Hold my faf NFL: hold my average weight and height of 6’3 and 245 pounds (111.13kg)

0:28 thats my university UWC right there. In South Africa

Cheslin Kolbe : "am I a joke to you?"

Has this youtube channel seen Cheslin Kolbe😂

its not about the size of the dog in the fight its about the size of the fight in the dog

Well, there's only one solution to injuries in rugby and football: use robots/drones/IA.

Force is equal to mass times acceleration therefore faster smaller players should not underestimated

Very few teams have the giants or the physicality of the Springboks that being said de Klerk and Colbe just shot your theory to hell.

Most probably the most uninformed media channel 😅

kilograms? really nice.

@lazarethtv5844

4 жыл бұрын

@Ÿamada Amen

Rugby is a contact sport size does matter.

@ic3c0ld_w3bb2

4 жыл бұрын

Tell that to Faf

Yes, Faf and Kolbe are the small guys, but Erasmus preferred Louw to Kwagga. Louw is not necessarily a more robust but bigger specimen than Kwagga. Brussouw was ignored because of his size, yet he was a helluva player ; his eventual demise a head injury(?).There is reason to believe that size matters now that the Bomb squad proved a point...

What about faf de Klerk and cheslin kolbe

@shivasrinivasan80

4 жыл бұрын

Faf Dr Klerk is a mini tank though

they great thing about rugby is there is a place in the team for all body types (except, of course weedy pigeon economists)..

50% Faf de Klerk 50% Cheslin Kolbe 100% Webb Elliss

Do the laws not mean anything for faf

I'd say that while rugby players getting bigger is pretty much worldwide nowhere is it more pronounced than England because England has a lot of money for rugby The Southern Hemisphere countries which are almost always superior rugby countries haven't changed so much -NZ and South Africa are small economies and rugby is a small sport in Australia - so there just aren't a lot of well paid rugby jobs available and these tend to go to the naturally big

I am on my high school wrestling and I can tell y'all SIZE REALLY MATTERS. When I wrestle 220's or 210's it's a lot especially for someone who is 170 like me.

@MPA083

4 жыл бұрын

Eric Ford that’s wrestling not rugby

@draco_1876

4 жыл бұрын

@@MPA083 Same thing applies to all contact sports.

While South Africa has a giant slayer

Reduce substitutions , reduce size of players. Video even mentioned the solution.

Cheslin Kolbe has joined the chat

They are literally picking the most extreme contrasts. Tuilagi is fucking huge even for now. Why not compare Guscott to Gary ringrose or Willie John McBride to Courtney Lawes?

Faf de Klerk: am I a joke to u

I think if you don't know this already you might have a concussion...

the small springboks ran circles around them

Rugby is dope regardless

The english pack was bigger than the south african, they still got rolled!

Rugby players need a longer off season, NFL players are bigger and faster but at least get six months off. Not that it helps CTE, but they mostly reduced full contact practices which is where about half of concussions took place.

Oh, I'm sure I could think of a couple more reasons;)

All these people talking about south africa like this video is talking about halfback size yes faf de klerk is small and can tackle huge players but south africa also has some pretty fucking gigantic players eben etzebeth being the first that springs to my mind