What a relaxing ride Garry, with the music, playing in the background. Looks a decent day, skies blue, and Buddy, just effortlessly running up the road. Love the tee shirt.😊

@economicalrides

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Mark. Yep, this was a nice ride, last summer. It must have been hot because it's very rare that I ride in just a t-shirt and body armour. Normally I manage to survive the entire summer riding in my mesh jacket, so this must have been a very hot day ! I'm glad that you like the t-shirt. I have had a few of them printed and of course only wear them when out on the bike 😝 I just thought that it would be nice to put my channel out there, anytime I was out on the bike and stopped for a walkabout or refreshments ! If anybody asks me what my channel is called, I can just point to the t-shirt, saves me having to spell it out for them 🙂 Cheers Mark. I'm enjoying your videos by the way. Loved your garage chat 👍🏻 Take care mate and good luck with all of the heated gear and mods and stuff 🙂 Garry & Ruby ❤🐕

Lovely, relaxing bit of escapism for me, after a bit of a hectic day. Thanks Garry Love to Ruby from Willow 🐶

@economicalrides

5 ай бұрын

Hi Dave, well, that's what I'm here for !!! 🤗 Sorry to hear that you had a hectic day but glad to hear that my video helped to alleviate it somewhat ! I hope today goes a bit more according to plan and ends up being a lot less stressful 🤞 Unfortunately I have to go grocery shopping in a minute, can't put it off any longer. Really not looking forward to it ! 😬 Take care of each other you two ! Cheers Dave and Willow 🥃 Garry & Ruby ❤🐕

Enjoying the warmth from that Spanish summer sun as the gritting lorry rattled it's way up my road. Bit fed up with being cold!! Get well soon mate.

@economicalrides

5 ай бұрын

😂 Paul, you always paint such a clear mental image with your words ! Lovely ! Well, in that case, huddle up to the TV and watch this video another 10 times or so. Should warm you up a treat ! 😝 As for me, I'm still getting better but progress is slow. But at least I am able to work a bit now, so less chance of me ending up bike-less and on Skid Row, thankfully 😂 Stay warm Paul. Fingers crossed here that you get some riding weather soon 🤞 Thanks for making me chuckle with your comment ! Cheers me dears, Garry and nurse Ruby ❤🐕

@paulholmes1682

5 ай бұрын

Perhaps I'm a poet and don't know it?🤣@@economicalrides

@economicalrides

5 ай бұрын

@@paulholmes1682 Whatever it is, keep doing it ! 🙂👍🏻 You always manage to raise a smile in a remote corner of rural Spain ! 🥃🥃

Great relaxer on this dreary cold day😎

@economicalrides

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Bob ! Can't beat a bit of Spanish summer sunshine on a cold, dark winter's day I find. I will probably be watching this one myself, once the "rainy season" hits, which could be any week now ! Take care Bob and thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻 Garry & Ruby ❤🐕

A lovely summer ride, one to save when the weather is bad, glad to hear you're on the mend, nurse Ruby is doing a great job :)

@economicalrides

5 ай бұрын

Hi Shardlake ! Absolutely ! We are probably on the verge of our "rainy season" here, so I could well soon be stuck indoors, watching videos like this one and dreaming of the summer ! It does look as though, by the time I finally get healthy, the weather will indeed have turned to 💩 Of course, while I've been ill, we've had some gorgeous sunny days 🤬 Trying not to get too annoyed about it. My one and only target at the moment is to get healthy again. I'll deal with whatever the weather is doing after that ! I hope you are well and having fun mate 👍🏻 Take care and thanks for watching and commenting 🤗 Garry & Ruby 🐕

Evening Ruby 😊I see your Dad's out enjoying Buddy on those fabulous Spanish roads 😊 don't worry he will be home soon with a big grin on his face 😅

@economicalrides

5 ай бұрын

Thanks James. Unfortunately Dad was too sick to go anywhere but he did have this recording from last summer 🙂😂 The sossidge action was recorded at the weekend though and as you can probably hear, I sound more or less healthy. The trouble only starts when I have to talk for a few minutes or longer. That's when I start to cough my guts up again. It's still the case unfortunately but at least I can feel my energy levels slowly getting back to normal 🤞 and am well enough to be able to earn a living again. Now I just need to clear my chest, shake this cough and then hopefully I can get back to my normal life ! Hoping to be fit some time next week at the current rate of progress. I probably won't be well enough to ride by the weekend, which is frustrating but can't be changed ! Cheers James and give my regards to Mrs. A ! Garry & nurse Ruby ❤🐕

We need you back on Buddy......buddy. 😊 That was so nice ! Great choice of music with awesome scenery. Really enjoyed it. I'm going to need to collect some of those tunes for this summer. Hugs for Ruby, Lance & Leo 🥃

@economicalrides

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Lance ! For music I use Epidemic Sound. I pay an annual subscription ( which isn't cheap ) but their website makes it pretty easy to find the type of music you are after and also you are guaranteed never to get any copyright problems. Failing that, there's the free KZread library but I find the search tools on Epidemic Sound to be worth the price of entry. I used to spend literally hours going through the KZread free library trying to find one piece of music for a video. Now I can find the right piece of music on Epidemic Sound in a matter of minutes. It's usually better music too 😉 The subscription wasn't cheap but since I have had it, I've probably saved myself well over 50 hours of time spent searching for accompanying music. Since I am always pushed for time when making my videos, being able to use music from Epidemic Sound has been a massive help. As for me, I'm still slowly getting better, day by day. The cough is subsiding and my energy levels are improving, so hopefully now it's just a matter of time before I start feeling normal again. Cheers Lance, hugs to Leo ! ❤🐕 Garry & Ruby

@lancerbiker5263

5 ай бұрын

@@economicalrides That is a huge savings in time. Certainly justifies the cost I'm sure. My son sold his guitar when he returned home from Alberta last fall. I replaced it this Xmas. I played your sound track and told him to learn it ! 😄 Try camomile lemon tea 🍋🥃

@economicalrides

5 ай бұрын

@@lancerbiker5263 😂👍🏻 I think I might have some camomile tea in the back of the cupboard somewhere. Might give it a shot. I have been drinking hot water with honey and lemon quite a lot though. Similar sort of idea. Sometimes with added whisky as well of course, when I know I won't be driving 🤗 Sounds like your son now has his work cut out 😂 Good luck to you both ! 🎸 Cheers Lance, Garry & Ruby

summer 2023 , it would be great to have a ride with no traffic . enjoyed the background music . hope you are feeling much better . love to Ruby .

@economicalrides

5 ай бұрын

Hi John, yes, this was some unused footage that I had from last summer. Since I had nothing new to offer up, I decided to bring out this video and buy myself another week of time to maybe get better and record something new 🤗 I'm glad that you enjoyed the music John. I probably spend more time selecting the music than I do actually editing the video, so nice to hear that my effort is appreciated. I am feeling better every day John, but progress is slow. The cough is getting milder and my energy levels are returning to normal, so presumably it is now only a matter of time before I am back to feeling normal again 🤞 As ever, Ruby is taking great care of me 🥰 Take care John, stay healthy. Love to you and Linda from the two of us ! Garry & Ruby

@johnbellamy6449

5 ай бұрын

@@economicalrides thanks for the reply Gary , you are regularly in our thoughts . went to triumph yesterday for coffee .met a nice father and son who had driven up from Kent to do the factoty tour. the father owned a 2019 Himaleyan and a super meteor ,and today picks up a Honda c t 500 , speak soon .

@economicalrides

5 ай бұрын

@@johnbellamy6449 Nice to hear that you are back out and about John. Hopefully I will be soon ! 🤞 Take care and have a great weekend ! Garry & Ruby

Beautiful ride Good to see you back Gary, hope the recovery is going well.

@economicalrides

5 ай бұрын

Hi Tim ! Thanks ! I actually enjoy watching this video myself at the moment because it reminds me of better days to come 🙂 Unfortunately I'm still not well enough to go for a ride but this week I do seem to be making decent progress with my return to health. I'm hoping to be well enough to go for a ride at the weekend but I think that might be a tad optimistic. We'll see 🤞 What I don't need is another relapse and then another four weeks of not being able to do anything ! Take care and stay healthy yourself Tim 👍🏻 Garry & Ruby

I bet that felt good to get out for a ride. Glad to see you on the mend.

@economicalrides

5 ай бұрын

Hi Simon & Chilli, no, this was a recording from last summer. We don't have t-shirt weather here just yet Simon 🙂 Unfortunately I'm still not well enough to ride but I am slowly getting better. I have a faint hope that I might be cleared to ride again at the weekend but I don't want to risk another relapse and then be ill for ANOTHER four weeks. So I'll take things easy for a while yet and hopefully this time, when I'm healthy, I'll stay healthy 🤞 Cheers Simon, stay healthy yourself 👍🏻 Garry and nurse Ruby ❤🐕

Yep, having watched this now through someone else's eyes/lens, I can safely say that this is definitely one of my all time favourite roads! Thanks Garry and continue with your recovery. Regards to Ruby btw. 😎👍

@economicalrides

5 ай бұрын

Hi Martin, yes, I thought you might enjoy this one, that it might bring back some memories for you, as I was editing it 👍🏻 Glad you enjoyed it. Must have been a hot day that one ! Normally I can survive the summer in my mesh jacket, but here I am in a t-shirt. I guess it must have been one of those 38C + days from last summer. Anything over 35C and I do start thinking about leaving the jacket indoors 😂 The recovery is slow but it is happening. The trend continues to be positive 🤞 Of course, I have nurse Ruby feeding me her Bob Martins Dog Supplements twice a day 🐕🤷‍♂, so a shiny coat and a cold wet nose should be just around the corner 😂 Cheers Martin. Take care out there 👍🏻 Garry & Ruby

@martintraffordmoorlandbike7121

5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂👍🤞

Blissful 🤗

@economicalrides

5 ай бұрын

Hi Peter 🙂 So have you ordered two rev counters yet ? MerciaMoto's solution looks very smart and fairly straight forward to install. I'm sure you must be tempted 😝 Love from Spain. I'm sure you're keeping busy as always but feel free to drop me a line with an update 🙂 Garry & Ruby

Thanks for sharing the ride, Garry. I endured five minutes of horror watching the morning news, then switched over to ER. What a contrast, a beautiful ride with relaxing music and Buddy back. Thanks Garry for the great start to the day.

@economicalrides

5 ай бұрын

Awwww thanks Bill. Really kind of you to say so ! To be honest, I made the conscious decision to not watch the news about 15 years ago. I decided that the news producers' main motivation in life was to freak me out about things that I can't do anything about anyway. I decided that I'd rather not know and would try to live in a bit more of a news vacuum, kind of like people did a couple of hundred years ago. I really only need to know what's going on in this village and the next one. 😂 Everything else either doesn't affect me directly or I have no other choice than to suck it up and deal with it because it's beyond my influence/control. I'm not sure if I am better off for living this way but I think I probably am. It's impossible for me to avoid all news anyway. You stumble across it all over the internet when you are doing other things. But at least I am not getting it rammed down my throat twice a day by the news media, just how awful and effed up the world is 🤷‍♂ So I think that helps me to remain positive in my outlook. But anyway, I am really chuffed that watching my video managed to take your mind off some of the no doubt terrible things going on in the world right now. Keep your chin up Bill and remain positive. Despite what the news media might have you think, there is still a lot of good in the world ! Cheers Bill, Angel and Sophie 🙂 Garry & Ruby ❤🐕

Very pleasant 👍

@economicalrides

5 ай бұрын

Thanks munchybiker ! Glad you enjoyed it 👍🏻 A little dose of Spanish summer sunshine is often quite therapeutic at this time of year, even for me ! 🙂 Thanks for watching and commenting, much appreciated 🤗 Garry & Ruby

Terrific road to ride there Garry, hope you’re feeling better, all the best buddy 👍

@economicalrides

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Mike 🙂 This is a nice video to watch when I can't get out on a bike myself. Like now, or when the rainy season hits again 😬 Yes, I can feel my energy levels slowly improving and the cough is subsiding day by day. Fingers crossed, if I can avoid another relapse, I might be back to health by the end of the week 🤞 We had some fantastic weather here last week. 23C and almost zero wind. Gutted that I wasn't fit enough to ride, would've been perfect 🤬 Cheers Mike, thanks for watching and commenting 🙂 Take care and stay healthy ! Garry & Ruby

@mikehatswell3961

5 ай бұрын

@@economicalrides glad you’re doing better, it’s 2 degrees and blowing a gale with sleet here ( NE Scotland) 🥶 and I’m waiting patiently for March until I get my stellar blue 😉

@economicalrides

5 ай бұрын

@@mikehatswell3961 Brilliant ! Here's hoping for some decent weather from March onwards then Mike 🤞👍🏻 I think, like me, you are going to quickly decide that the Meteor is a keeper 🥰 Recently I decided that Norman is now also a keeper. I am starting to notice a worrying trend with these Royal Enfields 😂 Cheers Mike 👍🏻 Garry

I read that Spain has over 30C right now. Hope you get well soon 🤞 Cheers to Ruby & ER 😀

@economicalrides

5 ай бұрын

Hi William ! Well, we didn't get 30C here but last week was pleasantly warm ( of course, because I am housebound at the moment !!!! ). We had more or less an entire week of 20C+ temperatures. The hottest I saw up here in the mountains was 23C which might well have equated to about 27C down at sea level. It was a really lovely week for riding. Very little wind too, which for here is unusual. It was very frustrating not being able to go for a ride when we were having such nice weather but I did enjoy taking Ruby for an afternoon walk in a t-shirt in January. That was quite enjoyable, despite the coughing and sweating that was going on. I seem to be getting better every day this week, so if I can avoid setbacks, hopefully I will be back riding soon. Possibly this weekend (?) 🤞 Cheers William, stay healthy ! Garry & Ruby ❤🐕

@WilliamAndrewPhilipBodie

5 ай бұрын

@@economicalrides Can only wait & hope for the best 😀

Lovely ride mate, good choice on the music too! The top is so cool!! Here it's 3c and miserable! Thanks for the pick me up and how's the helmet now? Hope it's all good 👍👍🎉🎉 take care and ride safe mate!!

@economicalrides

5 ай бұрын

Hi Quinn, thanks. This was a nice easy video to make. Managed to get it done on Sunday afternoon with the footage from last summer. Probably finding the music took the most time but even that went fairly quickly this time ( often it doesn't ! ). It was nice to once again be able to deliver some Spanish sunshine into folk's homes. I can imagine how nice it is to see something like that when it's cold, wet and miserable outside. Heck, even I would watch this video multiple times, next time we get another prolonged wet spell ! Thanks. Glad you like the t-shirt. I got a few printed last year. Just thought it might be nice to have some branding on me when I'm out and about riding in the summer 😂 The helmet is serviceable but I won't be buying another one. I have to stuff my neck tube right up into it to keep the wind noise down. You can see that in this video, even though it was probably 38C, I have my fleece neck tube on and stuffed into the helmet. Unfortunately the C4s and probably C5s don't fit my head shape. They are too short back to front and too wide left to right. So I have gaps on each side where the wind gets in if I don't stuff something up there. It also presses pretty hard against my forehead because the shell is not long enough front to back. This helmet demonstrates to me more clearly than any other that I have a long, narrow skull, rather than a short fat one. So from here on in, I will have to stick to brands which shape their helmets for more oval head shapes. I believe that Shoei are one such brand but there are others. I think my previous Scorpion helmet fitted my head shape, I think it was just half a size too small to be comfortable. So no, not really happy with it but I can live with it and I do enjoy the integrated bluetooth. That works really well and the speakers can't be felt pressing on your ears at all, which is great. If it fits your head shape, it would probably be a decent enough helmet but I don't think they are worth the money these days. Like you said back in the day, I think they peaked with the C3 and C3 PRO helmets and have gone downhill ever since. I can't buy them anymore because clearly they are not designed for people with more oval head shapes 🤬 I am seriously considering buying another helmet this year, if finances allow. I spend a lot of time in a helmet and I'd really like to find a COMFORTABLE and QUIET one. Just for a change. It's been a while since I had one of those because the Scorpion was nice and quiet but a bit of a tight fit. The guy in the shop said it would probably give over time but even then it was still too tight to be comfortable. We'll see. If I can find the right helmet at the right price, I might buy another. I have a SENA headset doing nothing, which I could fit into it, no problem. But if finances don't allow or I can't be arsed shopping around for helmets, I will definitely be able to soldier on with the Schuberth for another year or two. It's not terrible, just not ideal. Cheers mate. Long answer ! 😂 Garry & Ruby

@quinnpeaksbiker

5 ай бұрын

@@economicalrides thanks for that mate, good to hear from you!! Helmet choice is so hit and miss these days! Having the right helmet makes all the difference to be sure! Hope to get one of those cool t-shirts on my next trip out!! Take care and stay safe mate 😁🙏🙏

Nice ride. Thanks

@economicalrides

4 ай бұрын

Thanks MAMRE 🙂👍🏻 Take care and have fun ! Garry

After watching this video, you deserve to be sick! 😂 that ride was worth a half a years healthy rides! Thanks for sharing as I would get a little sick with the switch backs and I dislike heights . 😮 remember the drink I told you! Always makes a good night !😅

@economicalrides

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Blake 👍🏻 Yes I know. Rides like that definitely should make up for spells of prolonged rain or, as is the case at the moment, illness. Unfortunately they pigging don't ! 🤬 I want to ride ALL OF THE TIME please !!! 😂 It is nice though, to have these rides up in KZread's cumulonimbus and to be able to watch them whenever my desire to ride is being frustrated or later when I am perhaps no longer able to ride. In the meantime I get to share these two wheeled highlights with you lot, which is of course very rewarding. 🤗 I have been hitting the honey and whisky pretty hard Blake. Not sure it's helping but at the same time I don't really care 😂🥳🤪 I think I'm well on the road to reasonable health now. The cough is subsiding and the energy levels seem to gradually be returning to normal. With a bit of luck and a following wind, I might be able to go for a ride again at the weekend 🤞 Cheers Blake. Take care. I will probably be catching up with your channel tonight. It seems as though you have two or three new videos for me ! Stay safe. Stay healthy. Garry & Ruby

@BlakesPipes

5 ай бұрын

@@economicalrides well, very happy with herein you might be well enough to ride this weekend. Sick is never fun. I did get a virus once that took me out for 4 days and lost 6 pounds permanently while I was trying lose weight. So that was effective. Four days in bed and rushing to the commode every ...... I will leave that story there. So you are on the mend and felling better. Glad to hear! I agree with having YT around when we get older and might not be able to ride like we use to and look back and recall rides. I like that my dad and brother get to watch what I am up too. Guess this is like Facebook for me as I never got into social media . But I enjoy the editing part that I am learning. Keeps the brain working. Hope you have a great rest of the week and have a relaxing ride. Leave the camera at home, don't need distractions

@economicalrides

5 ай бұрын

@@BlakesPipes Funnily enough I lost two kilos in the first five days. Everything tasted bitter to me, so I didn't bother eating or drinking ( just water ) for five days. Unfortunately, once I decided that whisky was kind of like medicine, I subsequently gained four kilos 😂 I suppose half a bottle of whisky per day is a fair few calories in itself ! Oh well, never mind. The diet can start once I'm healthy again. It's probably necessary too. I imagine my biking gear is going to be uncomfortably tight now and there's no money for new stuff 😂 Cheers Blake 👍🏻 Garry & Ruby

@BlakesPipes

5 ай бұрын

@@economicalrides that is so funny. If I make a video today, it's going to be another box opening with a jacket. Due to injury last year and still recovering..... 50 years old and a 300 pounder destroyed my back as a fit person.... crazy it takes over a year to recover. Walked the beach yesterday for the first time. 3/4 of a mile then on solid ground back. Doing it today too. But back to why it's funny, I had to buy a new spring jacket because my fat ass, won't fit into my med/L clothing any more. That is why I am walking the beach today and every day for the next week. Then hope all recovers and I will be back to running by the end of the year.

@economicalrides

5 ай бұрын

@@BlakesPipes I'm far too tight to buy new gear until the old stuff is completely worn out, so that gives me confidence that I will indeed get the weight back off. I have no choice. It has to happen ! It will happen ! Whilst I acknowledge that middle aged spread is a thing, I still cling to the hope that it need not be inevitable. I need to nip this thing in the bud before it gets out of control Blake ! A couple of kilos more and I will be at that point where you go "Sod it, there's no hope, that's too much to lose, time to learn to deal with being fat !" 😂 Good luck with the recovery and the walking and the running 🤞👍🏻 PMA Blake ! PMA ! We'll get there ! Cheers Blake 🙂 Garry

Man I wish we had road surfaces half as good as those back here in the UK ! I am seriously thinking about giving up and selling my bike as there is no fun riding with my eyes out on stalks trying to constantly dodge the massive potholes...

@economicalrides

5 ай бұрын

Hi there CC ! Yes, I totally get that. I watch a lot of moto vloggers in the UK and quite often, when I watch their videos and the state of the roads with the potholes and sunken manhole covers etc., I do find myself thinking "That doesn't look like much fun. More avoiding obstacles than enjoying the bike and the road." When I was younger and living in the UK, yes, there were some notoriously bad stretches of road but there were also some good ones. So you'd just avoid the bad ones and ride on the good ones. These days I imagine that quite a lot of people are facing quite a ride to get to a good bit of road, depending upon where you live. I imagine the state of the roads over there is one of the reasons why so many people are swapping their sports bikes for ADV bikes !!! A Himalayan would cope pretty well in that sort of an environment but the Meteor or my previous Street Triple R could be painful ! Cheers CC. I hope your roads get sorted soon. If not, fly into Malaga, rent a bike there and quickly get bored of riding on near perfect tarmac which will have you yearning for a decent pothole to avoid 😉 Be careful out there 🙂👍🏻 Garry & Ruby

I ❤️Spain. Biking gear…is that a Schubert? I’m interested as I’ve had a couple of dodgy incidents, once when someone reversed straight out of a parking spot taking me out. Usual SMIDSY. On the M5 motorway a guy in a White Van decided to cut in…thankfully I had the hard shoulder as an escape. Which helmets are best to balance safety and visibility to avoid rogue road users?

@economicalrides

5 ай бұрын

Hi Pete 🙂 Prepare for a long answer 😂 Yes, I am currently using a Schuberth C4 PRO with the integrated SC1 bluetooth system. In terms of functionality it is a very good helmet. As you can see in this video, it has a very tall and very wide visor opening, so probably the best helmet I've ever had in terms of visibility. The "lifesaver" look over your shoulder is really easy with this helmet, you don't have to swivel your head through 120 degrees before you see something 😝 Ventilation is pretty poor IMO and it's one of those helmets where, when you open the visor just one notch, it directs the airflow directly into your eyes, which forces you to close it again. Safety-wise, in a crash, it should be a good helmet but be aware that it is only certified in the closed position. You are not legally allowed to ride around with it flipped up, although many people of course do. It only has the certified integrity in the CLOSED position. Another negative is that the quality is not what you would expect for the price. Within a month the bottom vent broke and I had to send it in for repair. TBF the helmet came back repaired within two weeks, so customer service appears to be decent and I think it has a 5+ year warranty. But overall the helmet creaks and rattles a fair bit, something I wasn't really anticipating. Although this is supposed to be one of the quietest helmets out there ( and I can see how it could be ), for me it is not particularly quiet. The reason being that these C4 helmets are very much shaped for round heads and I have an oval head. So I have gaps each side where the wind gets inside the helmet and the helmet presses fairly hard against my forehead because I need a longer helmet shell, front to back. Unfortunately I usually have to buy helmets online, because any store that sells motorcycle gear that is anywhere near to me, will have maybe one or two helmets from known brands and then a ton of cheapo Chinese helmets. I bought the C4 online, tried it on indoors, it felt ok so then I peeled the stickers off it ready for a first road test. It was only then that the issues became apparent. I do enjoy the integrated comms system and the speakers do not create any pressure on your ears at all, you don't even notice that they are there and it works pretty well IMO. So to summarise : If you think you might have an oval ( long, narrow ) rather than a round ( short, fat ) head, then the Schuberth is probably not going to be for you. I would recommend trying one on if you can and seeing if the helmet is sealing underneath all the way around. If that's the case, it should be a nice quiet helmet for you. Because I think the quality is not what it should be for the price, I would recommend that you buy one that has been discounted. The C5 has been out for a while now and I've seen C4s and C4 Pros going for prices which I think are fair value. Be aware that ventilation is not great, so if you tend to get claustrophobic with the visor shut, this helmet might not be the best. I can't ride for more than a minute with the visor part open because the wind blast goes straight into my eyes and they quickly start watering. Overall I am able to live with the Schuberth for now but I won't be buying another one because it doesn't suit my head shape. It's a shame because if it had been as quiet as it is supposed to be, apart from the poor ventilation I would have had no real complaints. Good luck deciding and here's hoping you can avoid the SMIDSYs from here on in ! Cheers Pete 👍🏻 Garry