Suddenly found myself dreaming of carburettors! !

@Geshmaal

Жыл бұрын

You can get a carb conversion for the Himalayan... personally though I'd just leave the bike stock and save all this expense and faff.

@godwinflores4819

Жыл бұрын

i know someone here from where i live where he converted his Interceptor into twin carbs. replaced the whole bike’s wiring, added a pulser on the right side of the engine and then added an additional hole on the right side of the engine as well

Fitted my fuelx today. Thanks for such a clear set of instructions. Saved me loads of time. Look forward to the meteor exhaust! Cheers.

As always, excellent and informative video. Thank you for doing these.

Great, informative video as usual George keep up the great work 👍

A NICE WALK THROUGH on how to fit and the reasons for .

Thank you for the video. I can find many videos explaining me the way how the FUEL X works, the quality of it and how it has to be installed. What I have never found is a Dyno diagram, that shows me the advantage of the tuner. What I really would like to see is a Dyno diagram, that shows me a curve of the stock mapping and another curve modified with the FUEL X tuner. That would make sense. Regards from Austria and thanks again for the video.

Very useful, made the job easy. Thanks.

Thanks for such a clear explanation.

Thanks for a very informative video!

Such a beautiful garage

Maybe the Fuel X Lite, but choosing between multiple Mabs would just take away from the wonderful simplicity of the Royal Enfield

Interesting to see how this is, my euro 5 Himalayan seems jerky at lower rpm hopefully it will smooth that out

I’m so glad my 865 install was on a Euro 4. It was hard enough to find fooler plugs here in the States - Power Commander does not ship them with the PC any more and do not sell them. I found some for a Polaris ranger that worked. I wonder what the work around is for an O2 delete on a Euro 5?

Merci, trés explicite et pédagogique, bonne continuation.

Would love to see a video of you installing this on a Euro5 650.

@Teh509

28 күн бұрын

Just an update, I recently installed mine, ez pz

I have a fuelx pro on my 22 adventure. More low end grunt. Smoother low rpm ops. Power seems a bit higher too. I am running at 6 or 7.

So after a couple of months, what's your verdict George? Does the unit make a noticeable difference in how the bike rides? An Australian guy with a youtube channel put one on his Classic 350 and didn't think it was worth the time and money, so I'm curious to know your views. Cheers

Hi thank you for your video, can you fit a tachometer to a Meteor 350 please, if you can would you do an in-depth video of how to do it?

Great video! Brief question, after installing the FuelX should we do a first 10-15 min run on the engine idling for the ECU to recognize the change? Or just do it and go for a ride?

I have a booster plug on Himalayan, also have fuelX installed. Should I disconnect the booster plug?

I got my 350 classic as my first bike and didn’t realize I would grow out of it so fast. I do like the bike but the part of America that I live in has too many hills for the bike. These hills range from 45-65mph and it really can’t handle them well. If the bike made like 5 more hp I think it would be awesome.

@georgemilburn6213

2 жыл бұрын

Hi , We are working on an upgrade exactly for that.

Why has no one cracked the ECU?

Very informative. Thanks for posting. Could you let me know how the Fuel X Lite would affect my 2022 Meteor 350. I don't really fancy the controller on the handlebars. You mentioned the engine sounding like it's on the wrong type of fuel when accelerating. Mine sounds "thrappy" when under load and it detracts from enjoying the ride. Many thanks. Keep up the good work.

@TECBikeParts

2 жыл бұрын

If you don't want the switch on the bars, just go for the Fuel X LITE version

Hi, I’d be interested to know if, once fitted with a fuel x pro, would I need to let the engine idle for 10 to 15 minutes on tick over like with a power booster, or would I be able to ride straight away? Many thanks in advance 👍

where did you get your seat for the enfield from? and the luggage system behind?

How about fuel consumption with the piggy back, without, the meteor is very efficient around 1l to 30km. What is the effect of Fuel X?

Nice video! Tks! Here in Brazil we have 20% of alcohool in our gasoline. Do u think this product will work fine or need some ajust?

Neat video! Much appreciated. From the fact that it doesn't change the power output, does it change the bike's mileage? If so, by how much?

I hope s&s maje a 8ntake manifold carbonator and timing modular kit for royal Enfield 650

I have installed red rooster polestar pro exhaust in my meteor350, is it advisable to install fuel x pro in the bike?

Do I need to install a system like this one to my meteor 350 if I want to change the exhaust? Doesn't the ecu optimize the air fuel mixture with the sensors by itself? I'm asking because I don't know and I don't want to mess up my motorcycle. (P.D. I plan to change the muffler only, not the entire exhaust system)

We need one for EU5 bikes, you'll sell loads if they get it sorted

@georgemilburn6213

2 жыл бұрын

Hi They are already available for some euro5 models with more to come.

Does it help for a full system exhaust too! Is it necessary if one installs a full system free flow exhaust?

Closed loop area only?

Why did you remove the tank? Wasn't the oxygen sensor directly accessible?

Safe to assume FuleX Lite makes the bike run on something between 4-6 setting rquvivalent of FuelX Pro? Also how much BHP gains can one expect with Lite and Pro (assuming aftermarket airfilter and exhausts are added)

After installing do I need to idle the bike for 15 mins for ecu to recalibrate

I’ve got a 2022 classic reborn, ordered Fuelx pro But I believe they sent me the meteor version, any idea if it makes a difference ?

Haven't been able to find a longish-term review for this product yet. Has anybody used it for a couple of months? any difference? Or links to a video i can watch reviewing it please?

Wow! You think they made the wire harness long enough? :-)

SURELY USING 2 RESISTORS AS A VOLTAGE DIVIDER, WHICH TAKES THE O2 SENSOR OUTPUT AS INPUT will produce a different but varying output. is the map air sensor, also guarded. if not fooling the ecu that more air is going in will richen the mixture. neither of these will eliminate the need for a free breathing camshaft, but should allow the cam to have a better result. this would increase fuel consumption, so ideally be switchable. labeling the switch as hill mode and plains or power/economy. may help proper use. I know I would want one as there are some serious hills in the way of my trips with 100 miles of flat before another set of hills. i am saving up for a scram at the moment, with the idea that your cam a free flow air filter with a cold air inlet finaly a new header pipe to reduce it to 1 cat, 2 sounds a bit restrictive. perhaps a new can if it is not too loud. sorry about the length. roy

Very interesting, could have done with a white board and some diagrams on that first bit though to help any numpties like me! I think I understood!

@daveinwla6360

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. A rehearsal would've helped make the video more understandable. Good info, though.

Eh, I just bought a booster plug to help compensate for intake and 2-2 headers. Wish I'd known. I was very tempted to buy a Powertronic piggyback in case I get into a cam or high compression pistons some day and still have a bit of post-decisional regret about not springing for it. It would be great if TEC could adopt either Powertronic or Power Commander and offer maps for various common tunings.

@georgemilburn6213

2 жыл бұрын

personally on most bikes I would use a boosterplug as I prefer the method it uses. But as explained on a lot of new bikes the boosterplug is no longer an option. We use and sell both types so I am not biased to one or the other.

@peteb2304

2 жыл бұрын

@@georgemilburn6213 I am in the US where Royal Enfield is still supplying Euro 4 bikes, for which I am grateful. I'm looking forward to trying the boosterplug with my new headers. Thanks for your comment!

@artiecisneros4691

Жыл бұрын

@@peteb2304 Hello, I'm also in the US, California, what headers are you using? 😎

I ran my bike on 9-10 map just to test the stock ecu map theory. In a few days bike’s spark plugs were gone. Had to replace them. Contacted powertronics and they suggested me to not go above 7.

@daveinwla6360

2 жыл бұрын

Does "gone" mean "sooted up" or "fouled" or "eroded"?

@joecamel6835

2 жыл бұрын

@@daveinwla6360 nigga stole em !

I bought my meteor new last year in Chiang Mai , Thailand, & do my riding here, would my bike be euro 5 emissions standard compliant? Would the fuel X be beneficial for me , thankyou Phil ANDREWS.

The counting of me number of times the LED blinks is silly and requires way to much attention a specially while driving. Please replace it with a simple number LED that permanently show the number of the MAP you are in.

@georgemilburn6213

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, I would never adjust it while riding myself. Much safer to pull over and do it.

@chokdeesam2365

2 жыл бұрын

So true ! I agree 100%, and we can pay more for a better product

Does it invalidate insurance?

Just got the fuelX pro for my meteor and I'm happy with the improvements in the overall smoothness of the bike. My only concern is that if I run the fuelX on setting 10, the highest map, does it effect the spark plugs in any way or am I fine?

@PhilipKerry

Жыл бұрын

This is an example of why most riders should use the standard version , if you don't know what effect a setting is having then you shouldn't be altering it ....

@briand9513

Жыл бұрын

After riding for a week or two, pull your spark plug and compare what it looks like to a spark plug chart. If it's too rich, you will get sooty build up on the plug, then dial it back until your plug shows a nice clean burn.

@sri5505

Жыл бұрын

Bro I have installed rrp exhaust in meteor350. Can we install the fuel x pro in the bike. Is it safe?

I have a 2019 bs4 duke 200. Will adding fuelx lite , iridium spark plug and a free flow air filter and keeping everything stock increase performance in any way?

@Geshmaal

Жыл бұрын

No.

Could you please explain why removing the fuel tank was necessary? Can't you access the lambda connector from the side, without removing the tank? I could easily access the sensor, and even installed the fuelx lite version on my meteor. Now i am worried whether i missed something during installation.

@karanlalwani009

10 ай бұрын

Hows it going? Fuelx lite runs at which settings? Thanks for feedback

Coming soon - 'The Freerunner' Cam driven plastic magneto & plug lead, plus Elbonian copy of flat slide Mikuni. or 'The Berzerka' - as above plus 12-1 piston & special cam profiles approved by Bologna's coroner. Full kit - £15-12s-6d (includes 15,000 Green Shield Stamps plus 6 'Duchess' class Heron wine goblets : )

Hola, tengo una pregunta el aparato elimina el limitador de velocidad que trae la Meteor a los 120 km/H

@tlamatinonline

Жыл бұрын

no amigo, solo ayudará a sentir mejor respuesta del motor pero la velocidad final quizas no cambia significativamente

What would be the fixed richness setting on the Fuel X Lite in terms of richness settings 1-10 on the Pro?

@twowheeledparadox

2 жыл бұрын

Emailed them recently. They said 6 or 7 depending on the bike. I ordered a Lite recently for my 390 Duke. Yet to receive it.

@TECBikeParts

2 жыл бұрын

@@twowheeledparadox Hi the readings we took on the Lite version were about the same as setting 7 on the Pro

@twowheeledparadox

2 жыл бұрын

@@TECBikeParts Thank you for confirming that and, of course, for your informative video! I hope that is the case with the Lite for the 390 Duke too because that bike runs really lean and hot. Race Dynamics, in their email, did say it depends on the bike. They also said that the Lite targets an AFR of 13.5:1 to 13.7:1. Cheers from India, by the way!

Does this replace the Booster Pug system or in conjunction with that Plug. I bought the Booster Plug from you a couple years ago.

@georgemilburn6213

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, yes in theroy they could be used together and would cover both the open and closed loop, but in practice only one is required.

@daveg4495

2 жыл бұрын

@@georgemilburn6213 Thanks George, which would you recommend?

@georgemilburn6213

2 жыл бұрын

@@daveg4495 My preference is still for the boosterplug for pre Euro 5 models, but the only option for Euro 5 is the Fuel X at the moment.

@theradiantchild

Жыл бұрын

@@georgemilburn6213 why so?

I put a end can and removed the cat plus an air box mod to my Meteor, makes her breath and lift a bit better but iv noticed at traffic lights the bike lingers very slightly before fully resting at tick over. I'm wondering would this little black box cure that😮

@georgemilburn6213

Жыл бұрын

Have you blanked off the air injection into the exhaust? it will do this if you have.

@Team-fabulous

Жыл бұрын

@@georgemilburn6213 no but thanks for the information 👍👍

@puneetsharma3930

Жыл бұрын

@@georgemilburn6213 Can you explain more how to blank the air injection off? I am facing a similar issue

Can you run euro 5 Himalayan with stock exhaust ?

@georgemilburn6213

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Yes will work even on a totally stock bike, it will make it run smoother and cooler

The fact that there’s even ‘anti-tamper’ blows my mind

I have a question, i manage to gain about 8 hp and 10 nm of torque on my gt 650 using only mechanical upgrade (the engine still have 650cc of displacement) The fueling for now is 100% stock. It uses 95 octane fuel for now (because of our local policy, i can't buy the 92). The bike is running great but, it does feel a bit lean. The power delivery is not as smooth as factory setting, but it is still very enjoyable. When i close the throttle abruptly, it tends to pop badly. Will this be sufficient enough to put on my bike, at least to make it safer to ride with the mods that i have. Or should i better of buying the powertronic ?

@JinSakai_Kuroudo

9 ай бұрын

Typical Indian, half knowledge

I haven’t found anyone that has also plugged in a Obd2 scanner, everyone just test rides. I want to see the short term fuel change with each setting. How about it.

Hello Sir, I liked this video and its helped me a lot to get an idea of how fuelx works as I also have Meteor 350, am from India and I also have a bajaj Dominar 400 with 35bhp and 35Nm torque so I feel the meteor is very under power in comparison however I like it bcoz of its smoothness, looks and the J series engine which is way smooth and its mileage as well. However, now a days I feel if my meteor can perform a little bit with more power so I would like to know if Powertronic ecu can help my bike to gain that power for my bike to make? I want a detailed video on this with the difference in speed. Sir if you could do it for me and my Group it will be very much helpful for us to understand.

@sparshmakkar3765

Жыл бұрын

Hey Buddy, so there is basically no power gain from it, i tried it with my mechanic. It just helps to make the bike more smoother and refined. Also if you like to take it on trips, Ladakh is the most famous for us Indians, then it helps the engine to adapt better to altitude gains. If you want increase the power output then you’ll have to look at hardware changes for it. Easiest ones will be better air filters and maybe even a slightly bigger intake plates. If you wish to increase further then maybe you can decide to bore the engine and increase compression. Hope that helps

I’ve got you cam and the dna filter with a booster plug on my Himalayan. What (if any) is the benefit of this mod?

@georgemilburn6213

2 жыл бұрын

Not really, it is more aimed at Euro 5 models as the booster plug will not work on those.

@ajhoward5098

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks George, I ordered a Stinger for my INT 650 (has a booster plug and dna) but it is a Euro 4 so no need for this

@daveinwla6360

2 жыл бұрын

The video seems to imply that the Fuel X enrichens the fuel-air mixture at low rpm like the Booster Plug did for pre-Euro 5 engines. The effect would be to improve the off-idle throttle response, i.e. remove the jerkiness at low rpm.

I'd like to know what the difference is between the booster plug and the fuelX? They are about the same price but it seems like the FuelX is more powerful and/or capable.

Hi is this for a euro 5 interceptor?

@georgemilburn6213

2 жыл бұрын

Available for most RE Euro 5 models, But not available on the Euro 5 interceptor yet, it should be coming soon

Looking into buying the fuelxpro. Currently have the S&S mufflers and air filter. What setting have you guys found works best? I have seen that too high a setting will cause plugs to foul? Is this the case in your experience? I have a euro 4 bike. Also when’s the next video, part 5 out for the interceptor.

@georgemilburn6213

2 жыл бұрын

I find that settings 4 to 7 seem to be best in most applications. I have not had plug fouling even on setting 10.

which one is better ? , lite or pro ?

@TECBikeParts

2 жыл бұрын

basically both do the same job, but you can fine tune the Pro if you like messing about.

The J series bikes need a little more power in my opinion... A modern Vespa GTS 300 has a dry weight of 158kg and has a power output of 23.8 bhp / 26Nm from its liquid cooled shorter stroked engine.. The meteor has a dry weight of around 181kg with 20.2 bhp,, It is just too underpowered for european highways.. A 411 scram with the camshaft upgrade and around 28 bhp is good though ..

My Euro5 interceptor randomly cuts out on idle, or sometimes when pulling away. They haven't managed to sort it under warranted. Would fitting one of these solve this? And is it legal? And will it void my (admittedly pointless) warranted?

@vigneshnarasimhan8331

Жыл бұрын

Does it cut out at high throttle loads? Could very well be bad ignition coils.

How's the new Meteor camshaft coming along?

@georgemilburn6213

2 жыл бұрын

We now have some cams made for testing, but simply too busy at the moment. I will get to it ASAP

I’m not sure if you guys know this but is the meteors speed limited to 75?

@Rempa

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, there's a speed limiter at 75mph. Not a rev limiter, a speed limiter.

@MastaKeahi

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rempa gotcha I was wondering. I was going down a hill on the highway and the bike started jerking.

@Rempa

2 жыл бұрын

@@MastaKeahi It's really annoying and borderline dangerous: I thought my bike was having a fuel issue when it first happened to me, you can feel the ECU cutting the fuel pump to slow down.

@MastaKeahi

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rempa yeah I think it’s pretty dangerous as well. I wonder why they did it?

@Rempa

2 жыл бұрын

@@MastaKeahi It is supposedly because of Indian regulations, but my question is why if it apply to india why did they ship it with the Indian ECU? I think that this bike is great, it feels solid and is such a pleasure to drive as a commuter bike. But this... It is but a stain of this beautiful painting.

There seems to be some misunderstanding here. Booster plugs makes the main map richer, and Fuelx only affects the closed loop based on the feedback from O2 sensor. People seem to be ignorant of this matter. So most of the time the FuelX would not affect the riding at all, as majority of it is in open loop.

@georgemilburn6213

2 жыл бұрын

Correct, this is why I say that the boosterplug is a better option for Euro 4 bikes. But you cannot use a boosterplug on Euro 5 bikes as that has been blocked by the ECU . Fuel X is the only current option for Euro 5 bikes apart from a full ECU remap.

I have a 2022 Interceptor 650 and the bike is suffering from a lot of stuttering and stalling. On a long road trip recently after several hours of riding the bike became pretty much un ride-able right as I was making it into the beautiful valleys of Yosemite national park (California USA). I planned and executed a motorcycle vacation that many people dream about their entire lives and sometimes never get to experience and my trip was ruined by EURO 5 compliance! I really like this bike but this fuel system is ruining my experience please if anyone has any fixes please let me know. Hopefully powertronic or someone else will find a way to get past the euro 5 anti tamper protocols. Thanks for everything you guys do, let us know if you all hear anything.

@stephenf2958

2 жыл бұрын

Aren't all the interceptors sold in the US euro 4 still? Haven't heard of euro 5 being sold for 2022 models in USA.

@HaggisPower

2 жыл бұрын

Hold your trip reset button in (with power off). If it says P-04 it's EU4, P-05 it's EU5

@paulgearingengineering

2 жыл бұрын

@@HaggisPower mine has p 04 and eu5 pink sticker ecu ?

Is it not illegal to mess with the emissions, they are to make the air cleaner for us all to breath?

@cjsingh4070

2 жыл бұрын

Bikes don’t have emission tests. So none the wiser

@TictacAddict1

2 жыл бұрын

Screw the air quality. Give me more mpg / kpl.

@daveinwla6360

2 жыл бұрын

@@TictacAddict1 - The Fuel X slightly lowers the mpg by enriching the mixture.

@garymack411

Жыл бұрын

That's right, you worry about the emissions from your Himalayan while the people who makes the rules fly around in private jets!

@blakecrosby5123

Жыл бұрын

Plants eat breath much of what comes out the exhaust. Why u think so.much growth next to roads.

Yep Tech is rubbish

You would be ill advised to fit inferior after market parts like this piece of Chinese junk. My advise would be Just don't do it !

How to know if the Lite version is working correctly? Is there any kind of led or signal on the unit that indicates that power is coming to it when you turn the key? Thanks a lot!

@georgemilburn6213

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, The lite unit has to have power as it is taken from the feed to the O2 sensor. If this feed was broken the MIL fault light would come on. The whole point of the Lite version is that it is plug and play- fit and forget. If you want lights and selectable modes go for the more expensive pro version.