Oil Eater Cleaner and Degreaser sold at tractor supply. I used it in parts washer tank, mixed 3 parts water to 1 part Oil Eater and then let parts soak for 12 to 24hrs depending on carbon build up. It did great cleaned all parts of titan 5.6 v8, even got the aluminum block in there lol. Came out looking brand new. It says on the site for ultrasonic parts washers, mix 25 parts water to 1 part Oil Eater. Can't wait for part 3!

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

I already bought the oil eater for part 3! I’m going to look into the tractor supply degreaser. I also want to try powdered borax but I’m not sure if it’s actually good at degreasing or if it just works for cleaning because it’s so gritty. 😂

Great video #2! Except you tested the wrong simple green!!! If you like the green version, the purple HD one is ALL I use now after testing nearly all the products you have the last 3 years in my ultrasonic cleaner. I like commented on your last video, nothing beats the Simple Green Aircraft cleaner for prized aluminum I don’t want to darken or etch or harm in any way, but everything else get Simple Green Purple HD. Thanks again 👍

@halflife82

4 ай бұрын

BTW, in my own testing you can’t go above 40C or you’ll darken aluminum with most products. I restore vintage aluminum RC airplane engines, and some of them are over 60 years old. I’ve found I have to use lukewarm 38C or lower water or I risk darkening old aluminum.

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

I did buy the purple simple green, but then figured I’d save it for round 3. Also simple green extreme, which I think is the aircraft you speak of. For some reason high temps increase the ph. I’m not sure why because I’m not smart. But I have been noticing, steel likes high ph and aluminum and other soft metals like low ph. So the best all around will most likely be around 7.

@halflife82

4 ай бұрын

@@DeathTollRacingInteresting, I didn’t realize the steels liked the high pH actually. I actually knock the pH down with vinegar on the simple green purple hd whenever I’m going carbs or ordinary aluminum parts that aren’t critical, but I want super clean. It seems to do a better job when I do, and your findings seem to match that. I used to pH my concoctions but now I just eyeball it. Good to know about the high pH on steel. I’ll have to try a test next time. Thanks for all your work in doing these comparisons!

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

@@halflife82 I’m not sure if that’s definite, but it’s a trend so far. Steel high ph, aluminum low ph.

Great testing! I just cleaned an entire Totoyta V6 head in my ultrasonic cleaner and all the valve train components. I was using Oil Eater pretty diluted, I think about 10:1 because I ran out, and it still got almost everything spotless. Worked pretty well on carbon, though I did run it for a few hours total. If you get a chance to try Oil Eater, I suspect it will perform quite similar to Simple Green. I think they are overall comparable products, but Oil Eater tends to be a bit cheaper, smells better, and I think it works slightly better on thick grease and oil, though I have yet to do a direct comparison. I don't think you'd have the same issue with an oily finish, but it's possible. Both are pretty affordable on Zoro and about the same price for 1 or 5 gallon quantities. More expensive elsewhere which is why I mention Zoro. Would be interested to see you try adding some Evapo-Rust along with some of your favorite cleaner in a batch of really rusty parts to see how well they come out. Thanks!

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

Oil eater will be in round 3 for sure. Almost was in round 2. Round 3 is going to be great. I’m going to try and focus on only products that I’m confident will work, and skip the others. I like the idea of adding evapo rust. I think that may be either round 4 when I start playing scientist and mixing stuff. Also I’d like to try and mix until I get a 7.0 ph. I think that will be the secret to not ruining anything.

@802Garage

4 ай бұрын

@@DeathTollRacing Love it!

Looking forward to round 3 .. Thank You for sharing .. Cheers :)

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

Thank you!!

Thanks for sharing the video. If you do another Ultrasonic Cleaner Showdown, could you try the Harbor Freight "Super Heavy Duty Degreaser" Also, in Round 1, you wanted to compare the Cascade pods to the powder detergent. Interested to see that too.👍

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

Yes definitely will be in round 3! I have more products coming already for it. Even have the next victim motor picked out. 😂

Another great test! I did miss the price per fill as you did last time.........this is good info especially for us with the big ultrasonic cleaners. If cleaner 'A' cleans great but costs $50 bucks per fill, and cleaner 'B' cleans almost as good as cleaner 'A' but only costs $2.00 per fill, guess what I'll use! Hopefully you will bring the cost per fill back for the third test.

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

Yeah. I didn’t know the price on the turbo clean do it kinda stopped me in my tracks. I should have just skipped it. The cylinder 2 cleaner isn’t on the market yet, but will be soon.

I’m not surprised that the dawn dish soap was ineffective, but I like the idea of using it as a presoak. I imagine it would be good at degreasing if nothing else.

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

Agreed. I like the precook idea on the carbon especially. This has been more interesting than I had originally thought it would be

The lower the pH the more acidic the product is , the higher is considered alkaline . Interesting results .

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

It’s definitely interesting. Pretty fun backyard science.

@ccgrider1014

Ай бұрын

And aluminum doesn't like alkaline solutions. Ruined a set of carburetors learning this.

@laserall

12 күн бұрын

The alkaline solutions will usually have sodium hydroxide and/or potassium hydroxide in a certain percentile. Alloys and softer metals hate these chemicals. You can clean them nicely, but the timing to neutralise the caustic effect is super critical and will destroy the outer layer if left too long, not to mention not good for the skin. Been there.🤔 So finding an all round cleaner is very hard. It would be best to have a dedicated alloy tub and iron tub with a specialised premium compound.

simple green or mean green and laundry detergent great video

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

Laundry detergent I have not tried yet. Is mean green a simple green knockoff? I haven’t tried it either.

simple green precision aircraft cleaner. It was recommended to me as a final clean before coating/welding.

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

I just got some for round 3. I’m excited to try that one

Interesting video. If you do a third video on this topic, I might suggest for your consideration: 10-30% isopropyl alcohol / water ; diesel or kerosine (with caution of course); 10-30% household ammonia / water; 100% windex ?; Acetone/ATF (with caution of course); 100% WD40

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

Excellent suggestions. I was trying to avoid the more dangerous ones for on camera. I’d hate for someone to try it and have an accident. I think I have enough ideas for round 3 already and then I’ll start playing scientist and mixing. All of what you recommended could be done in jars though. Also the windex idea is intriguing. 🤔

@arty1799

4 ай бұрын

@@DeathTollRacing I totally understand not wanting to test the more dangerous materials on camera. I wouldn't want anyone's mishaps on my conscience. One thing to note, ammonia will attack copper and will produce very undesirable waste water. I've subscribed and am looking forward to seeing more of your good work.

Meguiar's D10101 All Purpose Cleaner

@DeathTollRacing

2 ай бұрын

Good one!

Again well made video, i enjoyed watching the test, now you have clear leaders in round one and in round two, maybe a third round of the top three from round one and round two just to see what one is clearly doing the best? or a mixem up video, I heard people using simple green with dawn and vinegar for carbs.

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

I have another roster of suggestions for round 3. Round 4 will be the best of the best and some back yard science playing with ph levels to try and make the perfect one!

Try it with straight up acetone. It'll need to be in a sealed container though because a lot of it will evaporate.

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

I would imagine that would work great if it can stay contained. It will definitely try to evaporate quick, but probably a good no heat option.

You should pin a comment that shows the cost per tank like you did on the last one. I started using the dishwasher pods after that video and I think a pod then refilling with simple green may give the best results per dollar, but maybe the turbo clean would be better if it's not too pricey

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

Not sure of the pricing of the turboklean yet, it will be available soon, but is not yet available as tested. Pricing on the tests is all over the place depending on where you get it, but I will give some ballpark figures

I suppose the damage wise the closer the PH is to 7 for a mixed bath of materials is the go. For a laugh you should try lacquer thinner maybe even diesel as a medium. That will eliminate any corrosion removal and surface affects introduced by extreme PH levels. Neither will cut rust but dried up hydrocarbons? I have used White/mineral spirit as a preclean prior to electroplating parts with a significant oily residue left from machine coolant. It worked well. But any of these could be quite fumy.

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

Yes, I think getting a ph of 7 would be ideal. It would need to be 7 hot I think. Hot definitely helps, but it raises the ph for some reason that I’m sure someone could explain. I may throw in some sort of penetrating oil on round 3. It will just be kinda expensive, so I’m not really sure if it’ll be a practical use. Also playing with pretreatments. That dawn loosened the carbon and after I threw the dawn valves in the turbo clean and the intake came out crazy clean. It’s in my latest short.

@dazaspc

4 ай бұрын

@@DeathTollRacing Your electronic PH meter is sensitive to temp as it uses temp in its resistance calculation. For accurate readings at different temps you should use test strips. The gauge will work at different temps but it needs to be a specific type that uses a secondary thermocouple and the cheap ones dont.

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

@@dazaspc I discovered that. Mine makes the ph higher the hotter it gets, which I think is actually opposite of the real world if I’m not mistaken.

Spray 9, spray9 “Grease off”, and Krown Penetrate oil.

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

So funny how many products I’ve never even heard of. I just looked up spray 9 and that’s promising. I love krown, and that would be interesting for sure. Round 3 will be very good either way all these.

@citystars1117

4 ай бұрын

@@DeathTollRacing spray9 is huge in the automotive and truck world at least in the state of New York. It’s made by the company ITW which is the parent company of Permatex.

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

@@citystars1117 interesting. I found it. Thank you!

Zep Industrial Purple Degreaser.

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

Do you feel the zep is better than super clean? I always thought they were the same. But I’m just assuming.

@chestrockwell8328

4 ай бұрын

@@DeathTollRacing I've been using the Zep Industrial Purple for a few years now with great results...I don't have an ultra sonic cleaner. I'll soak bolts, nuts and hardware and they come out very clean. So for a direct comparison to Super Clean my buddy used either the Super clean or Simple Green to clean up a nasty engine bay on his C6 Vette, we pulled the engine for upgrades. Whichever of the two I mentioned did not work well, he followed up with the Zep and took care of what looked like a 10 year power steering pump leak, made a mess. I've also had great result using a Kleen Strip Concrete and Metal Prep...it'll be harsh on the Pistons but great on the rest. Also, have you tried regular TSP, it's cheap.

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

@@chestrockwell8328 that’s some good observations. I tried tsp when I very first got one and I honestly can’t remember if it worked good or not. It sucks to have the memory of a peanut

@grantdavis5992

4 ай бұрын

​I have been taking Gingko biloba for years and I think that it has helped my memory. I'm 74 and my memory is much better than my wife's and she is 64.

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

@@grantdavis5992 interesting. Thank you!

Try using Krud Kutter de greaser. Available at Home Depot and Lowe's. Best de greaser I know of and I've never seen anyone test it in an ultrasonic cleaner.

@DeathTollRacing

2 ай бұрын

I will try to get one for round 3. Both my Lowes and Home Depot don't stock it anymore for some reason. I will check amazon. I have my round 3 list pretty fulfilled, and I'm just waiting on an engine to tear down.

How about taking the rod off the piston and using the best cleaner for each part. I use muriatic for steal -then dip it and shush it around in water then- alcohol then oil.

@DeathTollRacing

Ай бұрын

In general, I wouldn’t recommend washing aluminum and steel parts together anyway. But for my testing here, it interesting to compare how each do on either surface

Hi there would you use the simple green extreme with like a Table spoon or so of Dawn to see if it would take the oily residue off it?

@DeathTollRacing

2 ай бұрын

good idea. I have a round 3 coming up, then I think I may try doing some combo type things like you suggested with the best of the best!

Look at including Blue Gold cleaner Degreaser.

@DeathTollRacing

3 ай бұрын

I'll look it up. That's the first I've heard of it!

i have been wondering about baking soda. I wonder if baking soda with a pod or two of laundry cleaner might be good as well. So I have called simple green myself and found out from them that simple green HD and Simple Green aircraft are of the same formulation. No need to test both products. Recommend 3:1 for heavy duty and to not get hotter than 109 degrees f

@DeathTollRacing

11 күн бұрын

Those are great ideas!

@L8nightride1

11 күн бұрын

@@DeathTollRacing I hope my idea makes the cut. Baking soda is alkaline but a mild abrasive. The cleaning pods are more acidic so it may give a thorough cleaning. Plus everyone generally has both In their house and it is inexpensive. The other thing I did for my 30L unit was buy glass loaf pans. I can put distilled water in the unit itself and the cleaning agent in the glass loaf pan with the parts. Thoughts on that idea because loaf pans have handles to pull out the smaller pan and if you have two dissimilar metals you could run different solutions at once like a double boiler.

Wonder what straight stoddard solvent would do? For car parts. Only place I have found it is tractor supply.

@DeathTollRacing

2 ай бұрын

It would probably work great! I was avoiding anything flammable in the testing however. Most these ultrasonic are sketchy at best electronically. (I just had the main on/off switch catch fire on one of them) Easy fix, but it could have been bad if I hadn't been in the shop.

TSP Jason at Fireball Tool recommended Zep Floor Stripper for degreasing, I’ve tried it and it works incredibly well. Would be interesting to see how well it works in an ultrasonic cleaner. Different versions of Simple Green.

@DeathTollRacing

3 ай бұрын

Next round will have simple green purple and aircraft. Tsp I tried when I very first got it and I can’t remember if it did good or not. I didn’t video it unfortunately. I actually know Jason, we are both in Spokane. I never even thought of floor stripper. That’s a good idea.

Purple power

@DeathTollRacing

17 сағат бұрын

Round 1 I did a purple. I think it was super clean. It was rough on the aluminum and made it black if I remember correctly.

Thats odd the LA Awesome (yellow cleaner) damaged the aluminum. I have never had mine damage aluminum when I've used it.

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

I believe it’s the heat. Heat increase alkalinity. At least that’s my thinking. I’m probably wrong though

@jeffallen3382

4 ай бұрын

@@DeathTollRacing I warm it up too. But I have always used it full strength... but I don't see how that would change anything. Thanks for doing this!

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

@@jeffallen3382 That is very interesting. There's so much going on, so many angles to think about. It's all kinda fun though. Probably not if I needed those pistons. LOL

@ccgrider1014

Ай бұрын

@@DeathTollRacing The heat raises the PH level of plain water, so you can imagine what it does to solutions...

Can you try Mean Green, also Mineral Sprits.

@DeathTollRacing

2 ай бұрын

I'll have to look into Mean Green. It sounds familiar.... I was really trying to avoid flammable products, but I may break that "rule" for mineral sprits.

My submissions: Tide OxyClean Kerosene Krud Kutter Would be interesting to see surfactant vs solvent.

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

Those are great ideas! I’m avoiding flammable for videos. I don’t need someone having an accident on my conscience.

Purple power works really well on getting stains off concrete but i have no idea what it would do to metal or carbon buildup. Another thing i would like to see is a something first run with the dawn, then rinsed, then run with one of your better performers such as simple green. For what its worth im here because I currently have a very rusty and grimy break caliper bracket in my ultrasonic cleaner and am looking for a better option solution to get it clean.

@DeathTollRacing

3 ай бұрын

I did salts gone in round one and it did pretty good on the rust without causing damage

Try Slip2000 Ultra-Clean. It's specifically made for ultrasonic cleaners.

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

Great suggestion!

I would love to see fabuloso tested

@DeathTollRacing

3 ай бұрын

Great suggestion!

You need another 3+3 Square Body Dually in your life? I know a guy, hell I am the guy lol. I've got a nice one here in Clarkston 2hs south of you.

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

Ummmmm. Not technically. 😂 4x4?

Simple green aircraft in the blue bottle please.

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

That is on its way for round 3. Can’t find it locally for some reason, but it seems common enough!

Purple stuff.

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

I did super clean in round 1. Simple green purple will be in round 3!

I've heard that mineral spirits work well.

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

I bet it would!

Zep citrus Heavy Duty degreaser

@DeathTollRacing

11 күн бұрын

Round 1 has it. Spoiler, but I don’t think it did great. I could be wrong though.

@DeathTollRacing

11 күн бұрын

Round 1; Ultrasonic Cleaner Showdown; Cheap vs Expensive Alternative Solvents / Solutions! kzread.info/dash/bejne/gIaEl9ebadTfk6g.html

Seafoam

@DeathTollRacing

4 ай бұрын

Interesting. I wonder what as a base. I don't think would work with water.

@jayanderson6016

4 ай бұрын

@@DeathTollRacing Seafoam, per the current MSDS, is 40-60% Pale Oil (CAS 64742-54-7), 25-35% Naphtha, and 10-20% Isopropyl Alcohol "IPA"

Try gasoline!

@DeathTollRacing

25 күн бұрын

I’m avoiding doing that on camera in case someone duplicates it and has an accident. You know, because that would be my fault. 🤦 I bet it works fantastic though.

@NAS_Performance

25 күн бұрын

@@DeathTollRacing I have seen other videos on here using it in a sealed glass container they just put in water in the ultra sonic. Looks like it works really well. Would love to see how it works on a piston and rod.

@DeathTollRacing

24 күн бұрын

@@NAS_Performancemaybe I’ll do that on the next one with a huge disclaimer. 😂