Roland TD50X, Kit #1 "Acoustic kit"

Another ‘drum nerd alert’…...I did some editing with Kit #1 “Acoustic Kit” in the new Roland TD50X upgrade --- I tweaked EQ, compression, changed tunings, volumes, mic’ing, etc. Still need to do a bit of tweaking, but to my ear, this kit is sounding pretty darn close to a great acoustic kit mic’d up in a studio. What do you think?
Roland TD-50X custom setting, Yamaha MG10XU mixer, and Zoom Q2n.

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  • @garystrauss6682
    @garystrauss6682Ай бұрын

    Nice playing

  • @dennisagresti9367

    @dennisagresti9367

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks! I appreciate it🙏🙏

  • @mattryan6886
    @mattryan68862 жыл бұрын

    Wow that Kits really sounds phenomenal. Are you doing anything special w/ your EQ settings???? I was at a friends house this weekend and we both have TD-17’s. I sat down and was playing his kit and it was sounding much better than my same module at home. He told me that he goes crazy with the EQ on individual pads and global settings as well. It’s a topic I’m curious about learning the finer points of

  • @dennisagresti9367

    @dennisagresti9367

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Matt! The short answer is I find it's far more than just EQ. Read some of my other replies below --- some of those answers will help you. Bottom line - I think there are a few main ways/rules to learn sound tweaking: 1) trial and error. just try extremes out in each sub menu screen to see how they affect sounds 2) get a sound pack from Vex, Drum-Tec or others, and go into the sub-menus to see how they tweak settings. Write down your faves and try them on other kits and 3) copy & paste. Copy individual instruments or groups such as a cymbal set or tom set and mix n' match to make your own kits. As always, copy the kit you want to edit into a blank 'user kit' slot and do all your edits there. That preserves your original settings for using as a base for anoter kit. Hope this helps. PS - I rarely stop editing! Nearly every kit I open gets tweaked a bit every day, so I quickly lose track of what I did.

  • @brianchalke2316
    @brianchalke23163 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing. Sounds really good. What tuning adjustments did you make and dampening? If you’re not keen to share it’s fine though 😉

  • @dennisagresti9367

    @dennisagresti9367

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey, thanks for checking it out. Too many edits to list all. I generally adjust nearly every element in all the menus and sub-menus under 'instrument', 'ambience' and 'mixing'. It's mostly 'trial and error', but I have a bunch of 'go to' settings I typically begin with. I always begin with a kit I 'like', so in this instance, the 'acoustic' kit sounded good to begin with. Listening back to this now, I can hear a bit of muffling on each tom. I generally open up the 2 floors a bit more than the amount of muffling I add to the racks because the rack toms' higher tuning cuts. But all toms are muffled a bit. I tune the toms in intervals I want to hear. For the kick, I'll add shell depth, add a sub voice, detune it, play with muffling, mic placement, and transients. I'll change the beater if I want more/less attack. I generally enlarge the hats to at least 18", or most commonly 22" or higher. I change the weight depending on what I want to hear. The ride was probably changed to a darker model, and I usually enlarge it to 24" or 26" and play with the weight. I'll tweak the bell's size if I want more cut. Listening to this snare, I probably put some muffling, changed wires and tuning, added a sub voice and certainly tweaked the transients, mics, ambience, FX, compression, etc. Again, it's mostly trial and error. Just make minr tweaks as you go, and continue hitting the pad while you are editing to hear the result. One important note: keep the original kit! Copy the kit you want to edit into a blank 'user' spot, and do all your tweaks on the 'copy' kit. That way, you can copy pieces of the original onto the copied kit should you not like the end result. Hope this helps.

  • @brianchalke2316

    @brianchalke2316

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dennisagresti9367 wow that’s a lot of editing. I was hoping you’d made a couple of smaller tweaks I could copy. It’s true the options are huge and for someone like myself it’s a bit overwhelming. I can be tinkering for hours, think I have something I like and then come back later and just want to start again. It’s experience I guess and that takes time. Thanks again for posting and such a thorough response- it’s much appreciated. The advise about keeping the original kit is also invaluable! Cheers Brian

  • @dennisagresti9367

    @dennisagresti9367

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@brianchalke2316 Yes, it takes time, and it's trial and error. To me, it's time worth doing. No different than exploring head choices, tuning and muffling options on an acoustic kit, right? Once I have a kit dialed in, I move on to others. I currently have around 15 kits I've modeled in the X that I'm 'happy' with, but I do minor editing virtually every day, and I often search through other base kits to continue building new, other kits. I also rely on Vexpression. LOVE Alan's work! They'll have a pack for the X in Q3, and I'm sure it'll be mind-blowing. Once you get a Vex pack, you can go into your settings and see how they dial in sounds. I base a lot of my explorations I learned from their settings and especially from this Roland video they released when the 50 first came out. I wrote down the setting changes they used and from there, learned how to make my own changes. Hope this helps you: kzread.info/dash/bejne/npqpzqZvcs65XaQ.html

  • @brianchalke2316

    @brianchalke2316

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dennisagresti9367 hey Dennis. Yes that’s really helpful. It’s daunting but definitely worthwhile and working through one kit at a time. Not so phased by the tuning and muffling but mic placement, ambience, compression etc does. I’ve bought the vex kits for the 50 which made a huge difference and am waiting for the release for the 50x expecting great things. I think I need to be braver and just delve in and be more curious. Noticed that the vex kits use all sorts of tunings and sizes to achieve desired sounds. Anyway, thanks again for your responses. I’ll copy kits and be braver in my editing 😀

  • @rolderdrummer2448

    @rolderdrummer2448

    2 жыл бұрын

    There’s hard parameters Work on those sounds, y prefer the Roland sounds when this kind of Works show’s positive results… And. Le put this this grea sounds and kits in musical context Congratulations

  • @tl4633
    @tl46332 жыл бұрын

    Sounds great! I thought that we should not used plastic tip drum sticks with these drums?

  • @dennisagresti9367

    @dennisagresti9367

    2 жыл бұрын

    There is more of a consensus to not use wood tips on mesh heads. Wood tends to splinter, snagging the mesh and tearing it. Also, dust pieces from wooden tips can get into the shells. That said, I’ve been playing various mesh headed Vdrums since 1997 and have used wooden tips and nylon tips. Never had an issue with either.

  • @adamklein9320
    @adamklein93202 жыл бұрын

    I actually prefer the TD30 still this sounds compressed.

  • @mhm6
    @mhm6 Жыл бұрын

    How do you exit this box? I don’t see any doors

  • @dennisagresti9367

    @dennisagresti9367

    Жыл бұрын

    Doors are on the side behind the camera. Tight fit, but the sound-reduced room works wonderfully!

  • @paparaphatv
    @paparaphatv2 жыл бұрын

    Please, Could you share your custom preset kit? download.

  • @dennisagresti9367

    @dennisagresti9367

    2 жыл бұрын

    Please read the other comments. Thanks

  • @paparaphatv

    @paparaphatv

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dennisagresti9367 thank you for reply, I’m not drummer, so, can I try adjust module, can you listening my channel td50x sound , plz :)

  • @dennisagresti9367

    @dennisagresti9367

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@paparaphatv The kit sounds good in your videos! If you don’t know how to do your own edits, I’d suggest you look into sound packs from Vexpressions, Drum-Tec or EDrum Workshop. Their packs aren’t overly expensive and many of the kits sound amazing. They provide very detailed instructions on how to load into your module. Good luck!