Roland TD-12 sound vs Superior Drummer 2.0
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Just a quick comparison of Roland TD-12´s internal sounds and Superior Drummer 2.0 triggered via Midi. I´m using a Focusrite Saffire Interface and a Macbook Pro running Logic Audio 9 and SD2 as a plugin. E-Drums by Roland, Hart Dynamics and Drum-Tec. Needless to say that I was blown away right from the start triggering sample libraries with e-drums, the possibilities you have are quite limitless.
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You play so well !!! It's impressive.
@digitaldrumming
9 жыл бұрын
Arnaud M Thank you very much!
Forget the drum sounds, your drumming is incredible! such rad feel holy crap its like poetry to watch!
ive never seen a td 12 played so well, great job
That was some absolutely amazing playing
Nice comparison - thanks! This was just what I was looking for. Great drumming, too.
Dave Weckl style ! Really nice playing
@digitaldrumming
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! :)
Excellent comparison and thanks for replaying the exact same performance so we can hear the difference. Nice playing, too.
Thanks for making this video. I've been debating what drum VST to buy. (You have great technique!)
Smooth and precise, great playing!
love your groove brother!!! great rhythm!
@digitaldrumming
9 жыл бұрын
Phil Moufarrege Thanks a lot!
Loved your playing!!! Great timing! Made me subscribe immediately))
I don't know what I love more...the sounds, or your playing! Holy CLEAN Batman - you shred!
@digitaldrumming
6 жыл бұрын
Hey Nate, thanl you very much! :)
appreciate the reply, will be ordering superior drummer very soon
Monster playing. Great video for a direct comparison!
Seriously smooth and amazing drumming. Wow.
@digitaldrumming
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much Dan! :)
... and you are a fantastic drummer too. So we are all can really hear the comparison of those deferential sounds clearly. Thank you very much
@digitaldrumming
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind feedback! :)
A young Ralf....."Killing it"!....👍👊🙏
@digitaldrumming
Жыл бұрын
😄 haha, you've actually found the very first video I ever did for KZread. Man check out the super professional picture quality of the inbuilt camera of my white plastic macbook at that time. Might be considered vintage by now...!
Dude, You're awesome! I loved the drumming man! Regardless it sounds great!!
Great playing man, very relaxed, nice!
@digitaldrumming
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
the drumming was so groovy i wasnt even paying attentions to the drum sounds
@digitaldrumming
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, glad you liked it! :)
The true art of playing the drums. This makes me feel so good :-)
@digitaldrumming
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Moritz! :)
I came here to check out sounds and all of a sudden I totally forget about it because all I care is to study those phrases you play ! hehehe awesome job
Wow! Great playing!
...nice drumming man! Best wishes from Germany!
Love your playing, dude.
@digitaldrumming
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate!
Any possibility you might share your superior drummer mixer settings with us? Great playing :)
That would be absolutely incredible.
Excellent tutorial and drumming. I was planning on getting the Roland TD 25KV along with Superior 2.0 next month. Using it for traveling, being quiet and mixing music in PT.
@jamesbalestrino2670
9 жыл бұрын
I just bought the td-25... The dynamics and editing is great....I'm not feeling how it triggers superior and ez drummer...it doesn't capture a lot of the nuances that the new td-25 brain captures
@Pearlpassionstudio
9 жыл бұрын
James Balestrino Thanks for the feedback. I'm heading to Sweetwater this weekend and speaking to all the masters on this subject. They have a Gearfest that everyone in the world is there. I was highly recommended the Superior 2.0 as a way to capture individual tracks in PT's. Also, I was to expand the kits pads with another snare and floor tom.
@jamesbalestrino2670
9 жыл бұрын
I actually bought mine thru Sweetwater , those guys are great...I am a huge superior/too track fan an was real skeptical on how the td-25's brain would match up...but I have to say, it really impressed me..too track samples are ridiculously awesome but there is something about the Roland sound that works for me. The only thing that is kind of a negative is that there is no routing of the audio...meaning it's a 2 channel stereo output and you can't touch up individual outputs like u could do in the midi world with the multichannel output of superior. In any event have a blast at gear fest and let me know how u make out.
@Pearlpassionstudio
9 жыл бұрын
James Balestrino Thanks Jim...I'm a huge Sweetwater fan, been going to the Gearfest for about 6 years. AJ Becerra is a friends of mine, sales engineers at this place. Highly recommends this Superior 2.0 and Roland....I did pick up the tutorial for the Superior last month to start learning the process mapping this kit. I did see in this software a mixer, explaining how to map each pad, then work it with Protools, including routing to bus's....I'll go back into that tutorial that I got from Groove 3 and check again. I have to have full control like I do with my acoustic kit or there's a huge problem....Not sure, but pretty sure the MIDI plug goes to a interface, to the computer USB....Open the protools session, bring in the mixer, map it and should route the sends to the Protools inputs...Interesting...I will get back...Later for now.
@Pearlpassionstudio
9 жыл бұрын
HI again... I just re watched the Groove 3 tutorial on Superior drum. Show how you take your drums and make individual tracks for each drum. They show examples in about 5 DAWs. But, the tutorial did not show me the edit window, just the mix window with all the sends/Bus/Aux.etc...They did show how to create midi samples in a edit window, quantize to the bpm/scale on a single instrument. Still very confusing, I'll see Sweetwater and get back with you..
I love superior drummer sounds and I love that groove that you do with the ride
Damn, i want to play like you! I'm planning on buying a td 4 or 6 very soon,a nd it's good to see the improvement made by the real samples. it sounds super great. I'm using Native instruments Abbey road drums atm, and can't wait to actually be able to play them.
Exceptional playing and sound! Pretty impressed! ...I've never had a set of VDrums, so bit the bullet, and have LITERALLY just got home with a Roland TD-12 module and drum kit I bought off Craigslist for $185! He said he purchased it in early 2011...It looks like it's barely been used over the many years, likely covered by a blanket, and astonishingly, all the drums and cymbals work! Since I've YET to delve into the manual to see how everything works, what do I need to purchase next regarding equipment needed to get Superior Drummer 2 or 3 to work once I purchasing/download the software to my Laptop? I have a MIDI IN/Out and 2 sets of "Direct" or "Master" Output on the module. I'll have to figure out how to set up a set of powered speakers/Sub eventually as well. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Hey man! Great video :) It really shows the difference between the VST and the module :) Is there any chance you could send over a link to that preset kit so I could download it? I love the sound!
Great playing and definitely makes we want a copy of SD..:)
Great drumming man!
Excellent demonstration and tremendous playing! As a non drummer solo drumming often bores me, usually my attention is only held by Steve Gadd and Bernard Purdie, but I loved listening to this.
@digitaldrumming
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind feedback, very much appreciated!
Awsome drumming and technique
Absolutely love your playing! Who are some of your biggest influences?
great playing on here!!!!
Wow, you're a great drummer! Cool video as well
Excellent video. Aside from the great drumming others have mentioned, the software does seem to make a difference. My dreams of a massive drum kit are slightly hampered by space and noise considerations, so I've been looking into V-Drums. It's nice to see that there are alternatives to the default module for getting a realistic sound (I couldn't care less about all those electronic DnB type patches). One question as I am new to this - how is the sound output? Can you use your computer speakers?
Sounds good!
Thanks so much for this very informative comparison. You are a fantastic drummer. Superior drummer is appropriately titled!
Your playing is soo smooth
@digitaldrumming
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
I love your style and the Sound
@digitaldrumming
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
Thanks for making this video! Its awesome. I havent really had much to do with sup drummer yet, but im looking at upgrading from my TD-3. And i was wondering is it possible to play with those samples live through earphones just like you would through the original roland module? Does it just run through a seperate interface or would superior drummer only be something you could use for recording?
You are so damn good! Great job.
very informative, thanks
THIS MAKES ME SO HAPPY CUZ I JUST BOUGHT SD 2!!
The fill at 2:50 is so good
Liked it a lot! Nice balance and funky style! Thx for the vid! (it actually sounds better with the Superior Drummer 2!
Hey man! Great drumming!!!
sounds great! Im running EZdrummer 2 in to alesis DM8 pro kit but wow what a difference im fairly new to using midi and pc to record,yea I know pretty late in this game but i beefed up my hard drive and ram but still have some latency,any suggestions would be greatly appreciated,
WOW! DUDE. Thanks. You make Elec drums legit here. cymbal sounds are superior to what i have heard. great demo covering all aspects. that snare is crazy sensitive...real studio quality!
@digitaldrumming
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, you might also want to check out some other sample-triggering electronic drum videos: kzread.info/head/PLfdIgOnHCc5qXX2P03SRNVSjuuUQYcUUy Kind regards!
@freeat_last7375
7 жыл бұрын
Will go. Looked at a TD3 w/drum amp Simmons for $600 need to be able to program brain for specific settings. For example some youtube cat got the exact settings for a Bonham kit...sounded great. That what I want to do--capture classic kit sounds.
@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823
3 жыл бұрын
@@freeat_last7375 I saw that one at GC. Wow. I didn't think it was possible to hate an amp that much. Personally, I wouldn't carry it out of the store for free. Jmo I personally use either a bass amp, a Roland keys amp 4 channel or an old JBL PA
nice chops
I want the same setup. This is fucking dope !
Hi, I love this video - the difference is night and day. I also have a td12. Could you suggest how I might do this (trigger Supperior drummer via td12 kit). Is it tricky? I have a macbook also and a midi/usb lead. But that is as far as I have got. Any advice would be appreciated! great playing by the way - real great feel! Regards, David
Thanks for this. Your playing is very tasteful unlike many drummers uploading videos here and this is a great demo. I also have a question. Let's say I'm not planning on doing any recording on my computer running Superior Drummer 2. Can I run a usb directly from the roland module to the computer and only use the SP2 software to trigger the sounds on the e-kit? Basically, can I get your setup by ONLY buying an e-kit and SP2 with no other hardware or software?
Hello! Thanks a lot for the video. Very inspiring. Your playins is really amazing! Question: Can I use VSTs with this module on a macbook with IOS 10.14? I have a midi-usb cable from m-audio.
@digitaldrumming
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Luciano! Yes, you can use the module's midi output with a midi-usb cable, you'll also need a dedicated audio interface with fast driver for low latency monitoring while playing. Kind regards!
Man .. I have just subscribed. You are so good. I have a question. I have a TD9KX2 ... using the Roland's standard kit. What do I have to do to use Sd2.0 and change the sounds of my kit as you did? Thanks a lot.
I also discovered ad2 lately and I'm loving it. Can I know which ad2 kit are you playing? thanks!
Excellent
how you can make a setting of the velocity? I use superior drummer 2.0 too, I have a problem that I can't make an accentuation when I hit the e-drum, please some advices, thank you..
The sound of Superior drummer is way better than td 12, thanks for the comparison
VERY tasty drums here man! Great feel as well. Did you use the presets in the mappings page for e-drums? Somehow, my hihat sound isn't quite there yet, even with the e-drums preset. Especially the transition from closed to open hats feel kind of washy. Do you have any suggestions perhaps? Thank you. And keep on drumming! You're very talented! (y)
Great drumming... In S.D do you set a seperate sample for the rim..as i can only get 1 snare sample assigned to the snare and most modules have rim and snare? Been using a ddrum 4 for years and these superior drummer samples are soo much better. Also there only seems to be 1 avatar kit in SD, how do you get other kits or do you just customise the avatar?.. Thanks.
Wow, what a lovely player 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 Just wondering, do u notice any latency when switching from Roland to SD or any other VST in fact? I've tried using a TD-9 midi Ezdrummer, Focusrite 2i4 and notice the tiniest little bit! I can't really hear any but the kit feels a little different !
@digitaldrumming
8 жыл бұрын
+mickeyrip thanks! As long as you keep your buffer sizes low, latency inside the computer/VST can be kept pretty low & playable. Have you checked your internal latency value yet & how much is it? Shouldn´t be much more than 3-5ms for accurate playing. Kind regards
@king-manu2758
8 жыл бұрын
I'm using asio4all at lowest buffer size and still I'm getting some latency and I have a pretty fast computer. Any other way of getting rid of latency? Also can I just record listening to my module sounds and then change the sound to superior? Thanks and btw awesome jazzy playing, loved it.
8 жыл бұрын
What sound card do you use? always use the official sound card ASIO... ASIO4ALL is just an adapter for low end / onboard sound cards with no 48V (Phantom) modulation and high end input / output. Just a Tip.
Great video man. How do you think Superior's samples sound in comparison to Steven slate and Addictive Drums 2? I have both of those.
@coltonhunter1078
7 жыл бұрын
Christian Arnold I just purchased Superior Drummer today and I have both Slate and Addictive drums. The main difference between all three is both AD and SD2 are raw samples. Slate comes pre processed. Slate in my opinion has the strongest, beefiest kicks. I personally like the articulations and nuances of Addictive Drums best. I just did a song with a band today and we used all Superior Drummer and I was really impressed. I got the Bulb presets and the transients are insane! The only thing I dislike is the kick. It's a little too boomy, boxy, and ringy for me, and took quite a bit of eq. But all in all, I believe I made a smart purchase.
thanks for the reply, superior drummer is my next purchase
Hi Mate! Great Video! I'm new in the e-drum scene and would be really nice if you could answer me a question: I've Superior Drummer too and try to use it in Logic 9 to do some Midi Recordings with my Td 12. It all works with the connecting BUT the Soundquality is not good when I play the Drum. It's much better when I click with my mouse on the drumgeaphic in Superior Drummer. Can you tell me why? Thank you a lot
how do you connect it? i've tryed but nothing! does it need some special driver for TD-12??? I've used Cubase 5 + SD... thanks
So I have an Alesis Nitro kit, but I'm considering doing the whole superior drummer/Midi hook up. Will this program be compatible with this particular drum kit?
Hi! First of all, great playing man. Love your style. Second, dont you experience any latency while playing with superior drummer? Thanks!
@digitaldrumming
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! No latency problems, but you need a good audio/midi interface for low latency monitoring & a computer configuration with enough RAM & CPU power. Kind regards
I love that snare sound, is it possible to get a similar-sounding snare on Superior Drummer 3?
@digitaldrumming
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I guess you can still use the SD2 library with the new Superior Drummer 3? Kind regards!
wow... nice chops
@digitaldrumming
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Hi again, with superior drummer my ghost notes are sounding as centre snare hits at low volume! Yuk 😵 I'm using a Td-9 Apart from when I hit the rim all My ghost notes, light, Med & hard hits are all coming out as centre hits on Superior drummer sounds, Is there anyway to set up Superior to solve this? The snare is dual trigger & really bad at this pc stuff but I'm sure there must be a way that my lower hits can be changed into ghost notes Ect, Really appreciate any help !! 😇
Seriously. 5 years later and how much better can you make it sound??? It’s totally convincing.
@digitaldrumming
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Charlie :) Kind regards!
nice groove
This is a fantastic demo. I've been considering getting SD2 so that I can play it through my Octapad. Do you know what it would take to do that? Just a Mac, SD2 and an interface?
i have goosebumps from drums only for the first time
@digitaldrumming
3 жыл бұрын
:-D thank you so much Robin, I hope that's a good thing!
Is there any chance, that you remember which preset you used on this demo for snare on td-12? its nice. not from midi-SD2 off course, td-12 programmed sample. I can hardly find any decent snare setting on my Roland. sounds flatty, machine-gun like.
I want to ask...can I connect the ddrum pro or red shot trgiggers with roland td 12 module on my acoustic drums and what can I aspect from that ?
Great Drumming!,Sounds Like You Have An Ear For Weckel,& Gadd In Any Event Nice Performance! Was Wondering If You Ever Tried Addictive Drums If So Any Thoughts? Thanks
@digitaldrumming
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Frank & thanks! Addictive is very nice too, just browse through the vids on the channel, there actually is an old video with AD. I am currently cooperating with Slate Digital and Steven Slate Drums 4 is quite amazing (there´s a vid as well on the channel). Regards,R
I actually like how the 2 sounds(SD and roalnd) sound together
Hi, I have the same module. I want to make drum covers but have no experience with setting up my sound. Could you tell me how you have it set-up?
Hy , i have buy Td1 for Usb recording(Kontakt 5.1), but it's not so great, like a some bug , do you have advice? Tnx
Hi! You play amazing!!! Really great, congrats! But i would like if i can use superior drummer with the Roland Td 9? Any idea if is that posible?. Thanks.
That left hand is on point. That's my weak spot. I don't have the speed and control. Nice job! I was considering buying a used td 12. Using EZ drummer and an Alesis trigger IO now. Sounds pretty good, but everyone says Roland has great sounds.
@digitaldrumming
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe, the triggering/playability will be significantly better & easier to set up with any Roland module before going midi out. You can get great results even with a TD-17 actually & also have some nice onboard sounds on it. I've recently made the TD-17 AllStar Sound Edition for drum-tec: kzread.info/dash/bejne/rKmh1NSggtuwhag.html Doesn't sound like a Toontrack sample library by far, but still some very cool sounds for playing & practicing I think :) Kind regards!
Any idea how to set up the VH11 Hi Hat controller to trigger MT Power Drumkit 2 samples in Reaper? Any Idea? Can't find anything online about this. Reply
Best sound I've heard coming out SD 2.0 .. Do you mind sharing the preset with us ?
i love the way you play. how or where can I learn to play them. what do you call this kind of grouvs
@digitaldrumming
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, well a lot of things come together there :) I have been playing the drums for 30 years now, including several years of studying at a music college. It's pretty hard to break it down to one groove "name" or "kind", there's some triplet funk/jazz stuff in it, and also lots of rudimental work basically. Kind regards!
SD wins hands down... Thank you for posting this buddy :)
hi dd, nice sound man! can you tell how to set up the perfect latency with td-12. rock rock on
Nice vid ;-)
At 1:28 - what are these fills called when it sounds like you have constant ghost notes on the snare while playing the toms? Any good tutorials out there? Really wanna learn but can't get it to sound this well.
@palermorepbokning333
7 жыл бұрын
Also 2:50.
@digitaldrumming
7 жыл бұрын
Hey there, those are basically different kinds of triplet stickings: Three strokes, paradiddles (played as triplets), paradiddle-diddles or double paradiddles. Basic rudimental stuff played & mixed on a triplet pulse, there should be lots of videos on figures like this :) kind regards
@digitaldrumming
7 жыл бұрын
Inverted double stroke roll played as 32nd notes across the kit (some bd substitutions in there too)
@palermorepbokning333
7 жыл бұрын
Many thanks! I'll see if I can nail this some day.
@digitaldrumming Cool! I'm looking at the Saffire 6 USB. Do you think that would be sufficient? Then all I would need is a midi cable from my drum module to the Saffire and a USB cable from the Saffire to a computer for hardware? Then software on the computer... Please forgive me for all the questions. I'm just getting started with using my Roland kit. Thanks
This man has an astonishing amount of pocket
@digitaldrumming
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! :)
What's your td-12 sound configuration man? Especially for the bass drum. Thanks mate!
great drummer sir
Great stick techniques