Someone is going to get screwed over

Who left it there Someone gonna get fired 😤😂

Reminds me of a guy on some message board saying his dad and the whole maintenance team wasted like 4 hours finding a screwdriver that fell inside a 787 engine. Good choice anyway, better waste 4h than a job and all the safety problems on the flight at least.

It shouldn't be that hard to find out who did it. The mechanics have to sign the records for their work.

I love the unthought out comments about not having removable tips. Can you imagine the size of the toolbox if you had to have a specific tool for every combination and permutation? Even just the simple ones that most people are aware of, such as short, normal, long, extra long etc. along with all the other types many people couldn't even imagine would result in an impractical number of tools, and a prohibitive cost. And then if you add the requirement to torque up without being able to have removable tips etc.! I can't help but imagine a toolbox ending up as big as an engine!

I guess they need to stop using tools with small bits like this. It is a lot easier to tell if you lost a whole screwdriver than just the tip. I worked in jet engine assembly over 40 years ago and our tool boxes had a place for each tool so you knew when one was missing. The smallest tools we had were small sockets. I remember in the Navy 50 years ago when I was working on a P3 radar transmitter and dropped a small socket where the airframes guys had to retrieve it. They were glad I said something instead of ignoring it.

@CompositesNG

2 жыл бұрын

That’s not possible as Airbus uses special bits - Airbus Bits to open most of the panels around the Aircraft. This isn’t your typical Flathead or Phillips heads always. There are many more sizes and types. But it’s unacceptable either way. But I know what you mean (respect to a fellow Aviation Tech)

@tea4223

2 жыл бұрын

Or maybe paint tools a very bright color, or even tie a tag on them when possible. But I agree, tiny tools tend to get lost... they should make specialized tools for these jobs.

@Chris_at_Home

2 жыл бұрын

@@CompositesNG it is crazy the number of different bits there are now with Torx, Spline and Robertson to name a few. The Navy and a few years at P&WA was the only real aviation jobs I had other than working on a 7ECA Champ I had years ago.

cant remember which company it is... but their LAMEys have communal, digital toolboxes. when an engineer takes a tool, its logged to the toolbox and alerts if something hasnt been put back. its linked directly to a person who has to log in, so theres no doubt over who has taken what.

I imagine it will be difficult to truly track every potential foreign object that could come into proximity of am engine during maintenance. While there might be a checklist item for 'screw driver' they likely don't break it down for each individual part of a tool. I'm sure there are many more complex tools that have a number of separate parts that could come off and be left behind, yet still get checked noff the list when the job is complete. I could see them possibly restricting the use of screw driver bits and requiring single piece drivers that would be easier to track.

@margauxj-broussel9186

2 жыл бұрын

Let’s put it like an surgical operation. They count tools and weigh every single consumable. When lives are at stakes, this is was should be done.

Having maintained the marine version of the CF6-50, I know exactly how important proper tool control is. Anything that goes with you to perform the maintenance comes back after completion.

Aircraft mechanics should have to use Harbor Freight screwdriver bits. They seem to be made of a semi-metallic cheese-like substance which would likely go through the engine without issue.

"Just the tip" Can be dangerous as well ಡ ͜ ʖ ಡ

Carelessness is unacceptable. Even at home I check to assure all my tools are back in place before finishing the task at hand. There's no excuse for carelessness.

@stoffls

2 жыл бұрын

those things happen, this has nothing to do with carelessness! I would rather say, that the poor engineer was probably under quite some pressure, so he forgot to check if he had all bits in his tool box.

@bearchow1929

2 жыл бұрын

Only in recent years have I build a shop with toolboxes with tool places. I told my wife the most aggravating thing that occurs occasionally is a place for a tool that is empty and I can't find the tool. Drives me nuts but I find it a necessary and helpful discipline. I eventually find the tool but the empty slot keeps me obsessing over the missing tool (kind of like how an aircraft mechanic should feel in such a situation).

It is a serious incident no doubt. I commend the pilots for safely aborting the takeoff. However management directives don't inspire confidence when these types of incidents are not uncommon. I was onboard a Jetstar flight from Melbourne to Cairns but the flight was cancelled before push back. I saw first had engineers crawling around the cockpit trying to find a screw/bolt that had fall out of one of the pilots visors. It disappeared under the rudder pedals and presumably into the under floor area of the cockpit. Engineers were crawling into the nose wheel housing trying to find screw/bolt. After a couple of hours they gave up an cancelled the flight. Jetstar organized another flight, overnight hotel stay and seats on the next connecting flight out of Cairns to Tokyo.

what is the name of the background music ?

Good luck for a long time they had and if the same aviation security measures where in place in transportation industry, less failures and incidents would occure.

Wasn't there an incident in China where a passenger tossed coins into a jet engine for "good luck" while boarding? 🙄 In this case it was very poor of the engineer to fail to notice that they lost a screwdriver head. Maybe it's impractical to carry a full set of screwdrivers rather than a driver with interchangeable heads, but this demonstrates the flipside of that "economy".

Somebody is going to quit from it's job

This reminds me of when my car had a service earlier in the year, someone forgot takeout the screwdriver left on top of some engine pice and partially melted and made the engine whine and steam viable from the Bonet until I saw it and took it out

I bought a Mac some years ago and it had a loose screw in it. And surgeons forget small objects in patients. Rare but it does happen.

Surgeons leave tools in human bodies. This isn't new. Fatigue management rules shouldn't just apply to truck drivers/pilots etc but all jobs.

I guess the engineer collected his P-45 that week.

OOPS! looks like an A&P tech is looking for a job when they finally figure out who he is.

Human factors! Was the tech under pressure for getting aircraft out? Distracted? Tool control is very important. It doesn't take much to bring an aircraft down.

just the tip :)

As long as humans are imperfect stuff happens

Un bon ouvrier n'oublie pas ses outils. Il les compte.

Better control would be better, yeah.

Hi

FOD is always the enemy

Replaceable tip tools should not be allowed in aircraft maintenance. There is no means of firmly securing tips into handles with these type of hand tools.

I thought that the removable "tip" tools had been banned from maintenance crews just for this very reason. The "tool count" can miss the tips so easily

FOD, Foreign Object Debris, not damage.

In the mechanics defense it’s hard to work on jet engines upside down

jetstar suks😂😂😂😂

@r_ike4626

2 жыл бұрын

Just like you

@Tasek7

2 жыл бұрын

@@r_ike4626 yeah