Roger Penrose - Twistor, Reality and Quantum Non Locality

Ғылым және технология

This talk was held during the "Summer School on the Foundations of Quantum Mechanics dedicated to John Bell" in Sesto, Italy (28.07.2014 - 30.07.2014).
More information can be found on the conference website www.sexten-cfa.eu/it/conferenz...

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  • @user-gj7vp6wk3e
    @user-gj7vp6wk3e3 ай бұрын

    I AGREE WITH YOU, SIR ROGER PENROSE. GOOD JOB!👍

  • @neurophilosophers994
    @neurophilosophers9944 жыл бұрын

    It appears with the most recent developments that Twistor Theory is the best candidate for a theory of everything. To think Penrose has been working on this for 50’sh years blows my mind. That nobody knows about it but so many people have heard of things like string theory.

  • @bioshazard
    @bioshazard2 жыл бұрын

    I need a PBS Spacetime of this

  • @felixvandiggelen8731
    @felixvandiggelen87319 жыл бұрын

    Thanks alot for the upload!

  • @emilywong4601
    @emilywong46017 жыл бұрын

    Cool graphic with the transparencies!!!

  • @jamesbolivardigriz8252
    @jamesbolivardigriz82525 жыл бұрын

    Also if you need Heisenberg algebra with antisymmetric component in addition to the symmetric product then you want geometric / spacetime algebra. The more subtle patching together might be akin to Kron's Diakoptics or Postnikov's more recent method with Le-diagrams. In either case there's an equivalence between the field equations and a network / graph representation.

  • @sebolddaniel

    @sebolddaniel

    Жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't be so certain about Heisenberg.

  • @_John_P
    @_John_P3 жыл бұрын

    If you didn't understand, just watch the professor at 34:03

  • @AnHebrewChild

    @AnHebrewChild

    7 ай бұрын

    That explained everything. Thank you. 35:35 'is that clear?' Yes.

  • @michaelgonzalez9058
    @michaelgonzalez9058 Жыл бұрын

    Where Einstein is on ,yes, the aim is the same

  • @mikey--mike
    @mikey--mike4 жыл бұрын

    Good one.

  • @ivocanevo
    @ivocanevo4 жыл бұрын

    In thinking about the Googly Problem, it seems that from the start the stereographic projection onto the Riemann sphere has a built-in chirality because of the built-in rotational relationship between the real and imaginary components of the complex plane. Seems that one would need a one-higher dimensional complex space and I think a "Riemann 4-sphere" or toroid to project onto - which may accommodate the complex conjugates by also rotating the complex plane in the other direction relative to the reals. The Riemann 3-sphere and all the formulas that follow are a one-handed special case. It's just a suggestion. I'm by no means an expert, but I keep coming back to that and felt inspired to leave a comment about it.

  • @reubenler7784

    @reubenler7784

    4 жыл бұрын

    Shut up

  • @anuraagpaul6610

    @anuraagpaul6610

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't think Twistor description will be that elegant in higher dimensions

  • @anuraagpaul6610
    @anuraagpaul66102 жыл бұрын

    For second cohomology, why not use a nested Penrose triangle (2 triangles nested to each other, each triangle representing a massless field)? I think I have found a way to deal with this...

  • @ralphclark

    @ralphclark

    Жыл бұрын

    So just write that claim in the margin of Penrose’s paper, jump in a Time Machine and fast forward 200 years, then announce the proof and win the Fields medal.

  • @anuraagpaul6610

    @anuraagpaul6610

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ralphclark Ha ha 😂😂 I don't recall when I wrote this comment... I was probably high 👀😅 Interpreting nested triangles turned out to be a pain in the neck and it never really worked out😅. However, this cohomology seems to have some useful application in quantum contextuality. You may see the works of Samason Abramsky on non locality and contextuality

  • @neurophilosophers994
    @neurophilosophers9944 жыл бұрын

    It’s been 6 years since this talk what was the result of the experiment if it indeed was completed ?

  • @_John_P

    @_John_P

    3 жыл бұрын

    2021, no paper out yet.

  • @neilrichardson7454

    @neilrichardson7454

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@_John_P😊2024 still waiting. With Penrose in his 90s, I'm happy he's still around 😊

  • @viktorlafontaine6222
    @viktorlafontaine62226 ай бұрын

    In this kind of conference Roger shows more than his theory, he shows that every genius is one world apart of. The rare way that he explain his point of views using diagram drawing by him is really a sign of smart. But for many people this particular way of explanation will be incorrect because they prefer a computer and any kind of screen projector on the wall. I'm not against technology, I just see like more educational way of roger teachings.

  • @davidwilkie9551
    @davidwilkie95517 жыл бұрын

    If, as well as recognizing Pi as the ratio derived from the circumference and radius of circles, it is interpreted as bifurcation at a point, ..as the potential separation of the included information of the point and the excluded information, connected but not equal, then Pi is a scaleless fractal property of quantum information that naturally implies the properties of geometry - area, momentum and virtual work etc. It's another way of saying the inverse reciprocal of unity is distributed infinity approaching zero, (the properties of the Universal Singularity, asymptotic.., vanishing.., ..Point => 1-0D), the phase-statement of Quantum Information that "twists" or has duality-multiplicity in connection. (Ie this is a less detailed, more general agreement in principle with Prof Penrose) One temporal connection, entanglement - superposition, point - infinity, local - non-local, quantum information spectrum.., covers it. The Field of Science is focused on physical practices, associated "rule of thumb" conventions, and itemized theory of spacetime, but the Quantum Fields Mechanism is the Universal Methodology of existence, QM-TIME.

  • @sherlockholmeslives.1605

    @sherlockholmeslives.1605

    6 жыл бұрын

    Roger Penrose is more intelligent than me

  • @jamesbolivardigriz8252

    @jamesbolivardigriz8252

    5 жыл бұрын

    The Pi (rotor) action of the spinor does indeed represent a bifurcation induced by the hyperbolicity of space resulting in a splitting or diffusion of the local information, which then informs as you say the inclusion or exclusion of this information.

  • @SpotterVideo
    @SpotterVideo7 ай бұрын

    Conservation of Spatial Curvature (Both Matter and Energy described as "Quanta" of Spatial Curvature. A string is revealed to be a twisted cord when viewed up close.) Is there an alternative interpretation of "Asymptotic Freedom"? What if Quarks are actually made up of twisted tubes which become physically entangled with two other twisted tubes to produce a proton? Instead of the Strong Force being mediated by the constant exchange of gluons, it would be mediated by the physical entanglement of these twisted tubes. When only two twisted tubules are entangled, a meson is produced which is unstable and rapidly unwinds (decays) into something else. A proton would be analogous to three twisted rubber bands becoming entangled and the "Quarks" would be the places where the tubes are tangled together. The behavior would be the same as rubber balls (representing the Quarks) connected with twisted rubber bands being separated from each other or placed closer together producing the exact same phenomenon as "Asymptotic Freedom" in protons and neutrons. The force would become greater as the balls are separated, but the force would become less if the balls were placed closer together. Therefore, the gluon is a synthetic particle (zero mass, zero charge) invented to explain the Strong Force. An artificial Christmas tree can hold the ornaments in place, but it is not a real tree. String Theory was not a waste of time, because Geometry is the key to Math and Physics. However, can we describe Standard Model interactions using only one extra spatial dimension? What did some of the old clockmakers use to store the energy to power the clock? Was it a string or was it a spring? What if we describe subatomic particles as spatial curvature, instead of trying to describe General Relativity as being mediated by particles? Fixing the Standard Model with more particles is like trying to mend a torn fishing net with small rubber balls, instead of a piece of twisted twine. Quantum Entangled Twisted Tubules: “We are all agreed that your theory is crazy. The question which divides us is whether it is crazy enough to have a chance of being correct.” Neils Bohr (lecture on a theory of elementary particles given by Wolfgang Pauli in New York, c. 1957-8, in Scientific American vol. 199, no. 3, 1958) The following is meant to be a generalized framework for an extension of Kaluza-Klein Theory. Does it agree with some aspects of the “Twistor Theory” of Roger Penrose, and the work of Eric Weinstein on “Geometric Unity”, and the work of Dr. Lisa Randall on the possibility of one extra spatial dimension? During the early history of mankind, the twisting of fibers was used to produce thread, and this thread was used to produce fabrics. The twist of the thread is locked up within these fabrics. Is matter made up of twisted 3D-4D structures which store spatial curvature that we describe as “particles"? Are the twist cycles the "quanta" of Quantum Mechanics? When we draw a sine wave on a blackboard, we are representing spatial curvature. Does a photon transfer spatial curvature from one location to another? Wrap a piece of wire around a pencil and it can produce a 3D coil of wire, much like a spring. When viewed from the side it can look like a two-dimensional sine wave. You could coil the wire with either a right-hand twist, or with a left-hand twist. Could Planck's Constant be proportional to the twist cycles. A photon with a higher frequency has more energy. ( E=hf, More spatial curvature as the frequency increases = more Energy ). What if Quark/Gluons are actually made up of these twisted tubes which become entangled with other tubes to produce quarks where the tubes are entangled? (In the same way twisted electrical extension cords can become entangled.) Therefore, the gluons are a part of the quarks. Quarks cannot exist without gluons, and vice-versa. Mesons are made up of two entangled tubes (Quarks/Gluons), while protons and neutrons would be made up of three entangled tubes. (Quarks/Gluons) The "Color Charge" would be related to the XYZ coordinates (orientation) of entanglement. "Asymptotic Freedom", and "flux tubes" are logically based on this concept. The Dirac “belt trick” also reveals the concept of twist in the ½ spin of subatomic particles. If each twist cycle is proportional to h, we have identified the source of Quantum Mechanics as a consequence twist cycle geometry. Modern physicists say the Strong Force is mediated by a constant exchange of Gluons. The diagrams produced by some modern physicists actually represent the Strong Force like a spring connecting the two quarks. Asymptotic Freedom acts like real springs. Their drawing is actually more correct than their theory and matches perfectly to what I am saying in this model. You cannot separate the Gluons from the Quarks because they are a part of the same thing. The Quarks are the places where the Gluons are entangled with each other. Neutrinos would be made up of a twisted torus (like a twisted donut) within this model. The twist in the torus can either be Right-Hand or Left-Hand. Some twisted donuts can be larger than others, which can produce three different types of neutrinos. If a twisted tube winds up on one end and unwinds on the other end as it moves through space, this would help explain the “spin” of normal particles, and perhaps also the “Higgs Field”. However, if the end of the twisted tube joins to the other end of the twisted tube forming a twisted torus (neutrino), would this help explain “Parity Symmetry” violation in Beta Decay? Could the conversion of twist cycles to writhe cycles through the process of supercoiling help explain “neutrino oscillations”? Spatial curvature (mass) would be conserved, but the structure could change. ===================== Gravity is a result of a very small curvature imbalance within atoms. (This is why the force of gravity is so small.) Instead of attempting to explain matter as "particles", this concept attempts to explain matter more in the manner of our current understanding of the space-time curvature of gravity. If an electron has qualities of both a particle and a wave, it cannot be either one. It must be something else. Therefore, a "particle" is actually a structure which stores spatial curvature. Can an electron-positron pair (which are made up of opposite directions of twist) annihilate each other by unwinding into each other producing Gamma Ray photons? Does an electron travel through space like a threaded nut traveling down a threaded rod, with each twist cycle proportional to Planck’s Constant? Does it wind up on one end, while unwinding on the other end? Is this related to the Higgs field? Does this help explain the strange ½ spin of many subatomic particles? Does the 720 degree rotation of a 1/2 spin particle require at least one extra dimension? Alpha decay occurs when the two protons and two neutrons (which are bound together by entangled tubes), become un-entangled from the rest of the nucleons . Beta decay occurs when the tube of a down quark/gluon in a neutron becomes overtwisted and breaks producing a twisted torus (neutrino) and an up quark, and the ejected electron. The production of the torus may help explain the “Symmetry Violation” in Beta Decay, because one end of the broken tube section is connected to the other end of the tube produced, like a snake eating its tail. The phenomenon of Supercoiling involving twist and writhe cycles may reveal how overtwisted quarks can produce these new particles. The conversion of twists into writhes, and vice-versa, is an interesting process, which is also found in DNA molecules. Could the production of multiple writhe cycles help explain the three generations of quarks and neutrinos? If the twist cycles increase, the writhe cycles would also have a tendency to increase. Gamma photons are produced when a tube unwinds producing electromagnetic waves. ( Mass=1/Length ) The “Electric Charge” of electrons or positrons would be the result of one twist cycle being displayed at the 3D-4D surface interface of the particle. The physical entanglement of twisted tubes in quarks within protons and neutrons and mesons displays an overall external surface charge of an integer number. Because the neutrinos do not have open tube ends, (They are a twisted torus.) they have no overall electric charge. Within this model a black hole could represent a quantum of gravity, because it is one cycle of spatial gravitational curvature. Therefore, instead of a graviton being a subatomic particle it could be considered to be a black hole. The overall gravitational attraction would be caused by a very tiny curvature imbalance within atoms. In this model Alpha equals the compactification ratio within the twistor cone, which is approximately 1/137. 1= Hypertubule diameter at 4D interface 137= Cone’s larger end diameter at 3D interface where the photons are absorbed or emitted. The 4D twisted Hypertubule gets longer or shorter as twisting or untwisting occurs. (720 degrees per twist cycle.) How many neutrinos are left over from the Big Bang? They have a small mass, but they could be very large in number. Could this help explain Dark Matter? Why did Paul Dirac use the twist in a belt to help explain particle spin? Is Dirac’s belt trick related to this model? Is the “Quantum” unit based on twist cycles? I started out imagining a subatomic Einstein-Rosen Bridge whose internal surface is twisted with either a Right-Hand twist, or a Left-Hand twist producing a twisted 3D/4D membrane. This topological Soliton model grew out of that simple idea. I was also trying to imagine a way to stuff the curvature of a 3 D sine wave into subatomic particles. .

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