Thank u. Great information!

@MrRoombato

2 жыл бұрын

The answer is no, by the way. It will not scratch your floors. Not unless something gets caught in the squeegee. I have a more recent video where I tested the S7 MaxV and it didn't leave a mark on plexiglass.

I have the Roborock s7 and noticed staight-line scratches on the wood floor. I guess these probably have more to do with the plastic "teeth" on the front of the brushes container which probably touch the floor. Not very happy to be honest with all that. Brand new wood floor has lines all over the place matching the moves of the roborock.

@MrRoombato

3 жыл бұрын

That's very disappointing news. Would you be willing to send me photos and possibly videos (if applicable) of these scratches and, if possible, of the robot caught in the act? I would like to make a video about this, but now that I know it scratches floors, I don't think I want to buy one.

@kmerdzhov

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrRoombato I would send you photos. The scratches are minor but still present. When you see them, you would not ask for a video as it is pretty much self evident

@MrRoombato

3 жыл бұрын

@@kmerdzhov Thank you! Video would help me turn this into a video for my channel though, if that's okay with you. My email is mrroombato@gmail.com

@kushanpatel8721

3 жыл бұрын

I took have scratches on my stone tiles with s7. I can share photos too.

@MrRoombato

3 жыл бұрын

@@kushanpatel8721 Please do! My email is: mrroombato@gmail.com And thank you!

Would having the Roomba vacuum carpets before vacuuming hardwood floors take care of this issue?

@MrRoombato

3 жыл бұрын

I don't know what the issue is with the S7 precisely because I haven't tested it, all I know is that it has a rubber brush that picks up dirt and a brush housing that presses dirty plastic into the floor. Also, several subscribers have told me that it scratched their floors and one sent me photos. Regardless, it's not something that's going to be fixed by cleaning carpets first. Maybe thoroughly cleaning the housing and brush after each cleaning would mitigate it to the point where you'll never notice, but I can't be sure.

so does the S7 rubber brush scratches the floor? any conclusion yet? btw can we use the old brush rollers on the S7? thanks

@MrRoombato

2 жыл бұрын

I can't give you a definitive answer because I won't buy the thing to test it. It would be a waste of money. Because...I've had several people tell me in the comments (you can find some here) that it scratches the @#@$# out of their floors. But mostly it's the brush housing from what I understand, not the brush itself. Although at least one person reported that the brush also scratches. Sorry I can't be more helpful.

Can’t wait for the s7! Do you have any clue whether the Auto-Empty Dock will be Bagless or bagged?

@MrRoombato

3 жыл бұрын

It appears to be a bagless system, but we can't be sure at this point. I hope that the clear part is some "cyclonic" thing that lets you see the dirt swirling around but then stores it somewhere else (like a bag, or at least an opaque bagless bin). The last thing I want is a see-through dirt storage bin that shows me, every day, how nasty my house is. :)

Seems like this problem could be solved by the manufacturers simply being honest about it, and giving the option of using brushes for hard floors and the rubber rollers for carpets.

@MrRoombato

3 жыл бұрын

I honestly don’t think any of them know about this. Which is odd for me to think, because they should know. It’s kinda dumb for them not to. But if they did know, them they would know that if this were to become public knowledge, there could be some pretty serious blowback. My worst nightmare at this point is all of them going to rubber brushes and everyone just sticking their heads in the sand about the floor scratching. I have no idea how long it would take for these things to wear through the polyurethane finish of hardwood floors. Could be years. People aren’t very good at accepting and acting on future problems.

@Jose_Pointero

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrRoombato I know what you mean. It sounds contradictory but I think customer use is more testing/QA than what should normally occur during the R&D process of products these days. They just want to come up with a fancy design, ship it and get money coming back in. And with every manufacturer trying to "me too" each-other's features, I could see them all switching to the rubber roller bandwagon. I suppose the only potential solution is for us to start voicing these concerns to them and hope they notice.

@MrRoombato

3 жыл бұрын

Well then I'm glad to be the first voice of dissent against rubber brushes. :)

Hi, I got s7 maxv and it even scratches my tiles (!). Reason of this is the plastic teeths which are part of the brush cover. Was trying to stick the tape to it but with no result - it gets simply removed during the vacuuming. Wondering if anyone found a solution to this? I was thinking if I can remove these teeths and polish the surface?

@MrRoombato

Жыл бұрын

Even if the plastic teeth were touching the floor, they cannot scratch ceramic tiles. And they do not touch the floor, not even a little. Are you sure what you are seeing are scratches? Mine used to leave lines on the floor but you could rub them off with your finger. Now it stopped doing that.

@mateuszkurowski1064

Жыл бұрын

@@MrRoombato I got pics where you can see these teeth are affected - plastic is scratched due to contacting the floor so it must be them. And they indeed are in contact with the floor as entire cover is floating

@MrRoombato

Жыл бұрын

Maybe your robot is out of spec. On mine, if you put it on a flat surface like a table and look underneath, those teeth are quite far from the floor.

Have you tested it? I really want to get the S7 instead of the S6 Max V for a potential upgrade to the cleaning base later, but I feel like I will have to settle for the S6 Max V :(

@MrRoombato

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry, no. If they send me one, sure, but I'm not going to pay my own money for it. I've had several subscribers report scratched floors, mostly from the brush housing. I'd skip the S6 MaxV (wanna buy mine? :) ). I LOVE the robot itself, but no auto-empty dock makes it kinda useless for me.

@smilen-monev

2 жыл бұрын

I can confirm it scratches floor even on lower setting. It is visible with flashlight. Tested in wooden table and it literally dug its way.

@MrRoombato

2 жыл бұрын

@@smilen-monev Thank you for letting me know. It's very unfortunate. Do you know what about it does the scratching? Is it the brush? The housing? Both?

@smilen-monev

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrRoombato the housing, the 4 parts act as teeth to an extent.

@MrRoombato

2 жыл бұрын

@@smilen-monev Thank you. Unfortunately a few others have said that as well. It's a shame. Roborock is now permanently scratched off (haha scratched) my list of viable robovacs. At least until they abandon this madness.

Mr roombato thank you for this video. Do you think the brushing can scratch tile? Has anyone sent you pictures of their tile being scratched?

@MrRoombato

3 жыл бұрын

I seriously doubt it can scratch tile. So far only wood/laminate scratches have been reported. Interestingly it was from the brush housing, not the brush itself.

@jeffj9791

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrRoombato I ordered a s7 and I am returning it Monday. I am not taking a chance with it. I just preordered a Samsung jet bot 80 pro with self empty bin. Samsung is selling them in the USA now. The jetbot 90 ai is just to expensive. They are selling if for $1300.

@MrRoombato

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeffj9791 Oh nice! I'll buy one when I can return it if it sucks. Or...doesn't suck? I hate running a robot vacuum channel! I can't even say "sucks" anymore! :)

@jeffj9791

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrRoombato Samsung gives 15 free day trial. They are on preorder. The ai robot at $1300 is way to expensive and I don’t need the ai part. I just need a good lidar based robot with self emptying bin. Everything I have seen on the Samsung looks like it blows everything else away. I ordered the jetbot 80 plus for $800 and Samsung is giving $160 credit toward future purchase. I will use that on one of their other products. www.samsung.com/us/home-appliances/vacuums/jet-bot-robot/jet-bot-plus-robot-vacuum-with-clean-station-vr30t85513w-aa/

@MrRoombato

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeffj9791 I need 30 days to be sure! :)

Hello, are you going to test Honiture Q6? A scratch test would also be welcome ... For now what is the best vacuum cleaner for you that does not scratch or scratch all? otherwise you have to prefer the swiffer broom ^^

@MrRoombato

3 жыл бұрын

The Q6 appears to be built by the same company that makes the Neabot N1, so unless they screw up the app, it's a great robot. The Neabot is my favorite robot so far...it would be the Ecovacs T8 AIVI, but its auto-empty station sucks (or fails to, rather) for pet hair and its app is buggy. So far in my experience, only robots with rubber brushes and brush housing that press firmly down scratch floors, so anything with a hybrid brush should be fine. The Neabot doesn't scratch floors, so the Q6 shouldn't either.

@Julien-wb2lo

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrRoombato thank you so much !

I have the same issue with s7 as reported by people below. I’ve had mine for 1 month before I noticed it scratched my wood floors. I also have a previous model of roborock with bristle brushes and never had any problems with it. Very disappointing, I was looking forward to the new and improved mopping function but the scratches are really bad. I will be returning mine. I can send you photos but not sure how to attach them to my post? I think you should make a video about it. I bet it will be hugely popular as this is a trending topic on lots of forums.

@MrRoombato

2 жыл бұрын

You could send them to mrroombato@gmail.com. I may put out a post asking for photos. But I'm not willing to spend 650 dollars just to tell people not to buy it.

My wood floors are very veiny as they’re sandblasted, so the fine bristles actually clean them much better than full-rubber brushes. Shame you can’t actually choose what kind of brush you want to mount on these things.

@MrRoombato

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed! However, I recently learned that iLife has a new lidar robot, the A10, that comes with two brushes...a hybrid and a fully rubber one. So if it does well commercially, that will be a feature that other manufacturers may adopt.

This is very helpful, when do you think you will make a follow up video with the s7?

@MrRoombato

3 жыл бұрын

I don't plan to buy an s7 and my channel is too new/too few subscribers for them to send me one. I will wait for the s7 maxv. So, whenever that and the auto-empty station come out.

@berdjm

3 жыл бұрын

Got it well I hope you grow big enough so that they will send you future models. I don't know weather I should get the s6 max now or wait. This will be my first robo vac.

@MrRoombato

3 жыл бұрын

@@berdjm That's a tough one. It depends on whether an auto-empty docking station is important to you. To me it's critical, so I would wait. If not, the S6 MaxV, with the latest AI update, is an incredible robot.

@MrRoombato

3 жыл бұрын

...and thank you!

Where can I get one of these today?

@MrRoombato

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure. They are supposed to on amazon and at walmart, but they are out of stock at both places.

@JMay1127

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrRoombato - Thanks!!

My wife laughs at me for using a handheld mini vacuum to clean my roborock S6. But yes, the brush housing has a lot more fine dust in them. I also use my unused comb on the brush to untangle and clean them, instead of washing them.

@MrRoombato

3 жыл бұрын

I guess you love your robots as much as I do!

Any update to this with the s7?

@MrRoombato

2 жыл бұрын

I have heard from quite a few people that the robot does scratch their floors, though they say it's the brush housing and not the brush that's doing it.

@bigjim1488

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrRoombato that’s a shame. Do you think that the deebot n8 pro is a good substitute?

@MrRoombato

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigjim1488 Mostly. If you want to use google/alexa commands with it, look elsewhere. It has app "features" that make doing this extremely frustrating. Also, don't label your rooms, just leave the default labels (A, B, C)...just trust me on that one. And, if you have pets, schedule cleaning of one room at a time so that it can empty itself between rooms.

@bigjim1488

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrRoombato I’ll give it a shot it’s coming Saturday I’m gonna send the S7 back not even gonna bother I have a lot of wood saddles and stuff I’m sure it will wreck. I ordered the new Samsung jet bot+ to see how that goes.

@bigjim1488

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrRoombato Thanks for the tips as well I’ll follow that. I’m not big into the voice command stuff so that’s fine

Did you end up testing this and seeing if it will scratch the floor?

@MrRoombato

2 жыл бұрын

No, because I'd have to use it in my house to test it, and I like my floors. I've had multiple subscribers report that it does indeed scratch floors, and pretty severely, but not from the brush. It's the brush housing, for the most part.

@pklemm1

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrRoombato yeah I’ve been doing some research and I’ve heard that too. It looks like it would be possible to Dremel those things right down. Have you heard of anyone successfully doing this?

@MrRoombato

2 жыл бұрын

@@pklemm1 I haven't. And you shouldn't have to. Also, that auto-empty bin sucks. So...why bother?

@pklemm1

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrRoombato true… you don’t know if any other brush holder fits on the S7, do you?

@MrRoombato

2 жыл бұрын

@@pklemm1 Nope, and again, why bother? Why fix a broken product? Just don't buy it. Get something that isn't ridiculous.

Same problem when washing/waxing cars with same towels/sponge

@MrRoombato

3 жыл бұрын

You're totally right. I should have used that as an example!

@kinglord5429

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrRoombato haven't really seen this with my 595 but plastic housing did scratch when hit furniture. Fixed that by adding one of the cushions sold to prevent that.

@MrRoombato

3 жыл бұрын

​@@kinglord5429​ From what I can tell by looking online, the 595 has one bristle brush and one rubber brush. The rubber brush may not be the "offending one," which I think is the light green one with the really small fins. The dark green one has large fins and probably doesn't make too much contact with the ground. Also, you wouldn't really notice it for a very long time. I only noticed because of a freakish coincidence, which is what made me do my tests.

@kinglord5429

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrRoombato the 595 is close to 10 years old, this is like a tank. It does use bristles and one rubber which doesn't really make any big contact with floor. Bristles do wear down so have replaced them few times but rubber one mostle replaced because fin tore. I would not have thought would be scratching floors and looks pretty bad. I wanted one with self emptying bin but now looks lik I'll stick with this until fix brush problem. Just replaced treads they wore out now back to tearing around the house

Oh it was the next video

@MrRoombato

3 жыл бұрын

Not quite...it's just speculation at this point. There weren't even advanced review samples available when I made the video. I just saw the rubber brush right after discovering the floor scratching issue and I was like "Oh no, not another one!"

Why don’t robot vacuums come with soft rollers... i dont have any carpet

@MrRoombato

3 жыл бұрын

That’s an excellent question. They should. But many of the hybrid brushes only make contact with the bristles on hard floors. The rubber fins come into contact with carpet, since the fibers stick up higher. That’s not always the case though.

@Zoranurai13

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrRoombato exactly. I found on cordless stick vacuums, the soft rollers are just amazing and i know many people who don’t have any form of carpet. It would be even better if it had a dual roller system like shark vacuums. I also found that since my wife has long hair, most robot vacuums will have tangles around the roller and side brushes within two days, so i hope manufacturers find a way to deal with that

@MrRoombato

3 жыл бұрын

@@Zoranurai13 My wife also has long dark hair as thick as piano wire. So do my daughters (though not as thick!). So fishing that out of robot vacs is a pain in the butt, since I have five robots on active duty. I used to do it every other day, but now I just do it once a week. The i7 is good at avoiding tangles, and the hybrid brush robots clean fine with hair wrapped around the brushes.

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Damn, it even scratch glass, that means every flooring material known to man, from hardwood, ceramic and marble are all going to be scratched.

@MrRoombato

3 жыл бұрын

Plexiglass! It's not remotely as hard as glass. It's probably not even as hard as most floor finishes (except maybe the polyurethane you use to seal hardwood floors). Plexiglass is plastic, and scratches easily. So what you see in one pass on plexiglass will take a long time to show up on your hardwood, laminate or vinyl floor. But it will show up eventually.

@limitlesssky3050

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrRoombato ah plexi. Good to know it's not actual glass. My house is mostly ceramic and some marble flooring. So it's good knowing that it won't scratch those.

@MrRoombato

3 жыл бұрын

@@limitlesssky3050 Yep, should be safe with those! Sorry about the false alarm.

Not a chance rubber brushes are better than bristles. Rubber will wear out much faster IMO.

@MrRoombato

3 жыл бұрын

That is probably true, but that does not impact their cleaning performance. Rubber brushes do clean better, as I have seen from conducting numerous tests on both types, on both hard floors and carpet. Also, Roborock isn’t switching over to rubber just because it looks cool. :)

Try cleaning your brushes, every once in awhile!

@MrRoombato

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, that's what you have to do. Exactly how often, I don't know. I clean mine every few days as a matter of routine maintenance, but this still happens. I live in a rural area and I have dogs, so maybe I get more fine dirt than other people, but it doesn't take long, a couple of days of daily cleaning, to get from clean to what you see in the vid. The counterpoint to your comment, however, is, "Get a robot with hybrid brushes, and you won't have to!" And that's a valid point. Robots with self empty bins promise a mostly hands off experience, and if you have wash your brushes every day or even every other day, they fail to deliver on that promise.