Bullying Bea = lore accurate

@OseiTheWarriors

Ай бұрын

Well she bullied us first so it's fair lol

@NaoyaYami

Ай бұрын

Her VA's got somewhat bullied out of most of her job as well... (Aya Hirano used to be a big name)

@Gloomistic

Ай бұрын

@@NaoyaYami I didn't know this. That's very heartbreaking.

@NaoyaYami

Ай бұрын

@@Gloomistic Well, it depends on whether you find sleeping with dudes in your band an outrage-worthy thing :P

Meanwhile lancelot has been terrorizing the game for 4 years

@meister4597

Ай бұрын

Fr. No matter how much they nerf him, he just never falls out of top 5

@XPhoenixlordX

Ай бұрын

Shhh…don’t talk about my main😂

Triborg in MK X was crazy, I don't think even one week passed before he was nerfed.

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

Ай бұрын

lmao I love when devs mess up

Before they released the character, they probably sent it to test to a QA team. Team name was Bea4Life

@strippinheat

Ай бұрын

There's no such thing as QA in video games anymore. That's what the day-one customers are for.

@NaoyaYami

Ай бұрын

@@strippinheat You mean day -3 or even day -14 customers, right?

Nier, Sieg, Lance, Seox sitting pretty for 6+ months with only light nerfs. Beatrix is out for less than a month and needs to be taken out back with an emergency patch? What are these devs doing?

@qspec2002

Ай бұрын

They are really only terrorizing high level play. Add to that, Beatrix is arguably the most popular character in the game right now. She's disproportionately affecting everyone a lot of the time.

@trippersigs2248

Ай бұрын

Her popularity is also probably part of the issue. Shes more popular than all 4 of those characters. Combined.

@NaoyaYami

Ай бұрын

@@trippersigs2248 Well, she's a character you'd want to hang out with. Other mentioned are either too serious (Lancelot, Siegfried), too broken (Nier, Seox) or not waifu enough.

@Iceblade269

Ай бұрын

The devs don’t want to over patch the game like they did with GBVS, so my thoughts are that they are playing it safe by releasing bog batches.

@NaoyaYami

Ай бұрын

@@Iceblade269 My hope (though I realize it's dumb one) is that once chara pass 1 is done, devs will take look at the game as a whole and rebalance characters to match their vision but also the game as a whole (so that characters aren't left with completely unusable or broken-op ultimates for example).

If Beatrix mains have faith in her, they will main her no matter the nerfs

@Shura480

Ай бұрын

Yes! Bea main! Stay strong! Keep maining her!

@NaoyaYami

Ай бұрын

Well, she may be weaker but it's not like her playstyle will change drastically. She's still a gorilla, just not a King Kong.

@NamelessViking01

Ай бұрын

Yup, even if she is the worst character in the game I'm gonna main her

If you played a character without a meterless invincible DP, it felt like you were guessing between divekick or stroke/viper in neutral. IMO deserved nerf.

I m under the impression that from Arc sys you can expect Seox Sieg and Lancelot being Buffed and Charlotta , Ferry and Katalina being nerfed

ArcSys won't let us Stroke The Big Tree enjoyers have our fun.

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

Ай бұрын

Time to learn neutral 😭

A fullscreen, fast, advancing, low-profile low with advantage is pretty toxic on any character.

@RandomPerson-ye6rm

Ай бұрын

Stroke with plus frames is 28 frames tho, starting from S rank and above people react on it.

@mrharvy100

Ай бұрын

Yes literally anyone complaining is because they use the character for how easy it was to climb in rank with her. Play mostly anyone else in the roster that didn’t have a ground based projectile? Good luck lol.

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

Ай бұрын

Yupp

@krodmandoon3479

Ай бұрын

​@@mrharvy100Damn it's like it was really easy to climb with a character that can jab into 60% + corner carry from anywhere and then quit after the first easy win

@OseiTheWarriors

Ай бұрын

​@@RandomPerson-ye6rmfair but it's still a solid move especially if reacting to an opponent's attack

The laat time i remember seeing something like this was Triborg in MKX. I played him in tournament during his week one release. The next week he was nerfed.

Commenting on every video before Arakune BBCF combo trials. I am very glad that beatrix is getting tuned down. My character didn't really have a whole lot of counterplay to her stuff. I mean why does her stroke hit cag traps????

@GS_CCC

Ай бұрын

because it hits low.

@DarkProdigy820

Ай бұрын

@@GS_CCC i know, but its still obnoxious.

@hentacletentai2160

Ай бұрын

@@DarkProdigy820 oh, so you know

@DarkProdigy820

Ай бұрын

@@hentacletentai2160 its just really annoying tbh.

@championredd

Ай бұрын

@@DarkProdigy820oh no cag players actually have to think in a mu😱

Nobody remember Dreamhack? Shinku was like "It's Beatrix time!" and pull a 90% combo 🤣

@hideharu-xiii8852

Ай бұрын

I thought that dude got cancelled lol

What's up with so many characters getting shitty ultimates while there are characters untouched that can full-combo from anywhere with them (Zeta, I think Grimnir and others), grant unfair (towards most other characters) combo extensions (like Narmaya's that ends with crumble even when attacking airborne opponent - it also resets combo limit IIRC) and stuff? But then there's a character that's overall strong but then get's gutted and kicked while lying down for some extra measure... Bea's 22U should not be unsafe. It's already 1/3 of bar lost on block (as is the case with most utlimates) and simply losing turn should be enough of punishment (especially considering 22M is now almost useless - I don't see how it was OP since even pre-nerf it's already on 28f startup that's easily punishable). Edit: though in general I don't really mind the idea of nerfing her - there is indeed too many Beatrix players to the point I even jumped to my next char earlier than I expected (quite new to the genre, trying out various archetypes for now while working on my fundamentals).

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

Ай бұрын

Summer patch better be amazing

@Altares_V

Ай бұрын

Every situation 22U was a god button it gave me a midscreen safe jump, cross up, overhead, empty low, empty command grab ludicrous chip damage the most chip damage in the game I swear and being unpunishable is just icing on the cake. The damage you get off a raw linked or stray hit is explosive to say the least in the corner. But the reason it is unsafe is because I've checkmated so many people doing anything on block into Electric slide and immediately DP for chipout you genuinely just don't expect a fast safe option that does monumental chip damage while also low profiling from across the screen in slow motion to be the jack of all neutral

The last emergency nerf patch I remember was near the beginning of DNF Duel, where they made minor nerfs to Striker and Hitman...and they just obliterated Swift Master. He hasn't been relevant in DNF Duel since then, lmao.

@BigJC777

Ай бұрын

ranger meta

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

Ай бұрын

My boy SM…

@OseiTheWarriors

Ай бұрын

Pour one out for our wind ratboy

Congrats on approaching the 100k mark.

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

Ай бұрын

Bro, I’ve been hardstuck at 90k for 2 years lol

It's cool that it happened earlier than later. Before summer events start. Otherwise, we'd have to wait until mid-august-september for half beatrix in ranked. It's getting better on the ratio even without that, but still.

My perspective as a Metera main, this needed to happen. None of the other top tiers gave me the hopelessness Bea did. The meer threat of Riding Free alone blows up so much of Metera's basic game plan. At least with it being air blockable & minus now, she has more of a fighting chance.

@ericawagner6335

Ай бұрын

this, especially since metera couldn't punish H riding free

1:19 Yes something similar has occurred before, it's called tekken 7 season 3 leroy

Bea might not be part of the 4 gods, but the fact she just shut down a huge chunk of the cast with just one special was ridiculous and that move needed to be shot. Playing Zooey vs her is a pain, but some characters like Uno can get low profiled on all of his specials so he can't use any of them in neutral without risking being blown up. Her high damage also makes risk/reward on any neutral interaction super favoured for her, especially with her insane corner carry.

That "only buff" mentality should've died with DNF Duel

@OseiTheWarriors

Ай бұрын

Only buff was always the wrong answer anyone saying that never thought how bad the balancing would be

@Beans-do6wc

Ай бұрын

​@@OseiTheWarriorsdbfz bros know this too well

@VileGlory

Ай бұрын

Nah. I'd take that over nerfing anything that's remotely strong. That's what killed the previous GB.

@StratosSamaa

Ай бұрын

@@VileGlory Remotely strong and absolutely OP are 2 different things. Bea got some deserved nerfs, simple as that.

I'm glad I don't take this game serious lmao! I treat this game like smash so I don't have to deal with the mental gymnastics that some folks put out. I got my 6 bucks of fun out of Bea, but good luck to everybody else still stickin to her.

They did this to 2B as well. Siegfried, Nier, Lancelot, and Seox only getting wrist slaps in august lol. People thinking that the oppressive top tiers will get the same treatment are funny to me cause they have proven to only care about one agenda since launch.

@legatusleo5116

Ай бұрын

The future is never set in stone and we never know what will happen, it’s a bit early to say it won’t happen as if it’s a fact, pessimism gets nobody anywhere

@mrharvy100

Ай бұрын

Nier got actual nerfs no idea what you are talking about. Launch Nier and current Nier are two different playstyles

@OseiTheWarriors

Ай бұрын

Wait what's the agenda? They nerfed DLC characters which is good right? Usually they keep DLC characters buffed so you have incentive to buy them...

@I_recommend_suicide

Ай бұрын

Nier got nerfed in every patch, including the ones that were just "bugfixes" lmao, virtually none of her launch bnb routing survives today

@spicyluvsyou

Ай бұрын

​@@mrharvy100I don't know what arcs system was on when they gave her a dp that leads into setplay and said "this is fine"

The devs found something before us.

Why did they nerf my Sol Badgyall, pouring one out for my shawty

Stuff like this really makes me wonder what their internal playtesting looks like. It's not like she had any obscure setups which were overlooked and turned out to be overtuned.

Shoutouts to us honest Zooey friends :)

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

Ай бұрын

She's actually one of my favorite characters. Played her in Vanilla but haven't started her yet in Rising.

Like ya said, I've been waiting for her since the vanilla version of this game was announced, and she's not even in Relink, so I ain't going anywhere! I was playing Metera before her release, I ain't afraid of being low tier!

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

Ай бұрын

Glad you got your girl

Looks like a lot of people got tired very fast of her, and started to drop the game.The diversity of matchmaking wasn't healthy even before Bea. 1.50 will revitalize the game or completely bury it. No one will wait for next big buff/nerf another half a year. Turning point for GB is coming.

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

Ай бұрын

Yeah she was running rampant on net play

I think she'll still be pretty solid honestly. Just wish we might've had a few more active adjustments along the path to other characters. I get they want to do it all in August but it is a very, very top heavy game right now. Good game though! With even a few modest tweaks, it could be in a very good place.

Nier on initial nerf was told to knock it off Bea (and 2B to an extent) got a frying pan to the face 22M could go down to neutral, maybe -2. Not -4

@StratosSamaa

Ай бұрын

Bea and 2B deserved the nerfs they got imo...especially 2b.

@MatronMugrai

Ай бұрын

@@StratosSamaa There's nothing wrong with strong characters existing, even if they're DLC. But it's not fair to 'balance' characters when others are left overly strong since release while newly released characters are nerfed swiftly. Whether or not Bea and 2B are balanced now is irrelevant when Nier still exists as strong as she is. If Bea needed balancing this much, this fast... Why haven't the other top tiers been nerfed the same way? Why can't we have strong DLC releases? Damage nerfs to Bea were fair, not denying that

@StratosSamaa

Ай бұрын

@@MatronMugrai I understand having STRONG DLC characters but it kinda defeats the purpose of the base roster if the characters are TOO strong. I DEFINITELY agree that Nier should be nerfed as well, as well as other top tiers, but 2B being able to combo from ANY distance with ANY button is wild, and Bea being as broken as she was before her nerf was wild too. Strong DLC characters are fine, but OP/Practically unbeatable DLC characters is where most people draw the line yk? (Sorry if I came off rude btw ;-;)

@MatronMugrai

Ай бұрын

@@StratosSamaa Nah, you're good. I agree that overly strong (base or DLC) is a problem, but it just feels wrong that they're going so heavy on nerfs when there are other offenders being lightly touched. Why couldn't 2B be lightly nerfed? The way she worked before was what I really wanted to play and honestly what made me strongly consider buying GBVR in the first place, when they swung at her the way they did... I felt glad that I wasn't able to afford a game I no longer wanted to play because of those nerfs. Bea dropped and I finally could afford the game, so I started having fun learning her... Now the nerfs have landed and it jist sucks because I've watched other top tiers be fine up until now. It was honestly discouraging to see the nerfs and I won't lie, I very much considered dropping the game because it felt like DLC characters will either release strong and then be nerfed hard or not be worth playing in the first place. Part of me can't shake the feeling of 'we got all the Bea players' money, time to drop the hammer'. I'll definitely still play Bea and learn 2B because I'm enjoying the game and there's no reason not to play her, Bea has a cool alt outfit and witch hats are awesome (I-no is my GG main). It just feels disheartening, that's all... And I can only hope the next patch ACTUALLY deals with the problem characters. I will be fine if it all turns out to be fair. If it doesn't, it just feels targeted and that's not cool or fun

@StratosSamaa

29 күн бұрын

@@MatronMugrai that’s totally fair though, I completely understand the feeling. (Witch hats are insanely awesome)

We knew it was coming, but the release buffs were fun. Now we can go back to our regularly scheduled balance If I remember right DNF Duel’a first official patch post launch was literally just Swiftmaster nerfs

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

Ай бұрын

They hit Hitman too

Feeling bad man.

Cagliostro and Zeta about to make out like bandits in the big patch. Anyway this emergency nerfs are literally "let's shutbthe twitter kids up" What the Twitter kids do not realize is nerfing characters won't make them less ass at the game.

ngl i still gona play her because she is super fun and im new in the game but i need to found more characters probably i start practicing vira o yuel who has a rush gameplay like her

I really, REALLY hope they address the other top tier characters in the next patch. I think they hit Beatrix because of some of her matchups against certain characters. Yeah, Beatrix isn't top 5 and more comparable to Djeeta/Anila in strength BUT certain characters just couldn't deal with her moves. As a Metera player, I'd GLADLY fight Seox or Lancelot instead of her. Couldn't 2L her 22H, no meterless DP to deal with the moves, couldn't even down back because of command grab and one touch it's over and if you BC, you better hard call out her moves and lock her down or she's back in with little counter play. If she got back in, might as well put the controller down. And she's not even the worst case (looks at Ferry). Weirdly enough, the lower tier characters had a better shot fight the usual Top 6 than fighting her. Now, I don't really like the changes to Beatrix. A lot of it feels a bit overkill like the Delta Clock, 22M being minus AND longer to low profile (should have picked one, not both) and I hope the damage reduction overall isn't TOO much. And i know "just buff the weaker characters" and yeah, I generally agree with that but still, "emergency patch" is just an odd thing... Fingers crossed that 1.5 is a banger patch for the game.

@Living_Target

Ай бұрын

Maybe im bad, but I'd fight Metera over ferry any day of the week. I find 2M > Gespenst much harder to work around than any single metera move, especially when trying to bait out 2M is an invitation to get hit by 5M/H cancelled into Gespenst which pushed you out too far to do anything at all. Bea has oppressive get in tools, but they're quite linear... 22U was my crutch in this matchup, but I'm bad so who knows.

@kon6529

Ай бұрын

@@Living_Target the thing with Ferry is that her whip has massive extended hurt boxes, meaning you can "attack the whip" and hit her. Her 2M can be crushed by a 2U into a 22X and 5M/5H can be punished as well. You may only be able to get a 22U after whiff punishing 5M/5H. 22X can also low profile Ferry 5M/5H. If you end up clashing with one of her normals, Star Chaser can stop Gespenst. Ferry as a character is really good at keeping people out but as soon as she gets closed in on, there's almost nothing she can do. Her DP (only ultimate) doesn't even stop Bea 22U (the only DP that can't stop 22U) it certainly feels like Ferry has a worse matchup but I'm not really a Ferry player so...

@Living_Target

Ай бұрын

@@kon6529 oh of course I agree with your second paragraph but, that's true of most of the cast with ferry I feel. I guess I gotta get used to attacking into the whip, not something I'm used to doing on perceived extended hitbox moves.

@kon6529

Ай бұрын

@@Living_Target it takes a bit to get used to but with practice, it's not too bad. Good luck with it!

@Unit27

Ай бұрын

Metera main here, play Bea for fun and love for the character. I think Metera needs to be given some tools to actually play the game rather than hitting Bea. She just exposed how badly power crept Metera got by the mechanics added in Rising. She has so much trouble dealing with all the rushdown options everyone has.

Thank you for saving Seox

Patch 1.5 will probably address the issues the other menaces are causing. Either way, Beatrix definitely needed a nerf regardless.

Swift Master got an emergency nerf patch in DNFD.

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

Ай бұрын

My boy

I will never forgive them for making a DLC character, adding a battle pass skin day 1 and when I finally have some time to play it again and unlocked the costume they gut the character. while Nier, Sieg, 2B, Seox, etc are still terrorizing the game without a hotfix nerf.

@IppoX90

Ай бұрын

What do you mean. DLC so soon and Battle Pass, especially this game's since it handles it so perfectly and gives good rewards, are one of the most exciting things. I also wouldn't say that about 2B and Nier (to a lesser extent) since they have gotten notable nerfs.

@GS_CCC

Ай бұрын

@@IppoX90 they added a strong character with a paid cosmetic then nerfed her a lot after most people paid for it, seems a bit scummy. Other characters recieved some nerfs indeed, but it wasn't a hotfix with a list of changes. If they had kept 22M plus she would at least still play the same but with nerfed dmg.

A fast tranquilizer dart

Honestly the nerfs coming in to a character I was waiting on for a while cause I really like her in the gacha(and the doujins ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ) and the fact that anytime I take a break from the game I just go "Might as well just jump back into playing Sieg since I forgot how to play the other characters" is just telling me the devs want me to keep playing Sieg. Works for me. Favorite dragon knight.

i dont understand why fighting games balance like "oh this characters kinda good, lets make her absolute ass". glad i didnt get the pass, Im tired of supporting shit like this

@VileGlory

Ай бұрын

They did that in the previous GB. Made the game boring.

Still gonna play her. The combos are just that fun.

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

Ай бұрын

I like GBVS but every combo is the same 🥲

@nerio1227

Ай бұрын

@@ANIMEILLUMINATI That's unfortunately true but at least we have some little exceptions. It's the exact same reason I'm not playing Street Fighter.

RIP Beatrix. Gone too soon.

I started playing her cause I saw an Empty head clutz powerhouse. I'm still gonna play her cause although I don't have the attachment to the character I still think Bea overall is sick and she has a time gimmick. Still seems like she'll be fun!

To be expected. She has TOO MANY assets that make her kinda hard to fight against. Plus, stuff like this happens often for DLC characters especially if they're BROKEN ON LAUNCH. I myself was saying how she NEEDED a Nerf. Hopefully this eases the anxiety of fighting her.

Sentinel in mvc3 I remember not even a week in and they put a patch to nerf his health lmao 😂

As someone who played the original for most of its life people should be absolutely terrified at these nerfs. Because if this is the future we may have another season 2 Versus disaster incoming 😱

Rest in peace Sol Badgal

the dev goblins got her here too

I didn't mind fighting her a lot. She was also very fun to play and hope she still is after the nerf but this just seems quite excessive. If every top tier gets smacked across the face this badly I wonder what the game will look like after summer.

Man.. She turned out to be a surprise pick for me. She's real fun to play, so that sucks a lot

I agree. It does not make sense nerfing her that hard so quickly, when we have much more obvious problems remaining untouched for months. No clue. Her kit is also so basic.

@mrharvy100

Ай бұрын

Being “basic” isn’t a bad thing if your “basics” is overtuned as hell. Seigfried has the same issue. Did people completely forget vanilla Granblue with how Gran was at launch? Beatrix was like Vanilla Gran 2.0 just swap Boot for her slide.

@romzen

Ай бұрын

@@mrharvy100 I cannot disagree more with you on both of your points. Siegfrieds may be basic in terms of an archetypical Rising shoto but he has his own very distinct twists which allow him to set himself apart from Gran or Djeeta. Massive midrange, heavy hitting, easy confirms, projectile covers full screen and is hard to step, unblockables. He keeps out Beatrix unless she commits for her vortex. You're also comparing Beatrix to Siegfried, when there are more obvious contenders for top tier. At the same time I don't get the vanilla Gran comparison. Is this vanilla GB still or are we talking about Rising? Do we have ultimate skills now which skip neutral a lot of the time or do we not? Is Gran's boot in Rising not still a great pressure and neutral tool? He is plus when spaced right. And do not get me wrong. I think the change to her vortex was necessary. Specifically her M version but all the damage nerfs on top of it are definitely too much considering how many top tiers still do their degenerate crap and noone seems bothered (Seox, Zeta, ...).

Didn't they do this to a T8 character? Or am I thinking of Leroy from T7

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

Ай бұрын

T8 has gotten like 5 patches, game still in beta.

Embrasques out for Beatrix.

She's dead already in less than a month? That's almost as bad as what NRS did to Tanya in MKX.

as someone who has waited 4 years for the queen herself to grace this game. I am absolutely devastated, and will be starting a #FreeBeatrix movement. If anyone wants to join the movement, then put #FreeBeatrix in your in game name/profile message. The more we have the better, and we can hopefully spread this far enough to where Cygames will have to respond. They need to know that this kind of thing is NOT okay

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

Ай бұрын

Free my girl!

My issue with Bea is not her damage is the fact that is always her turn just like Six. She is too hard to punish online.

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

Ай бұрын

Not for long!

@codyhax0995

15 күн бұрын

You got your wish, now it's never her turn because her options to approach suck ass now. So yaay...

Good thing i still have Narmaya

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

Ай бұрын

Where’s Siete

@GabrielF430

Ай бұрын

@@ANIMEILLUMINATI in our hearts

Vane buffs when tho :)

Her ultimate skill went from -4 to -6 too, and that is insane. It's punishable! All I wanted was a damage nerf so they don't 2 tap everyone, but instead they just gutted her! I'll pour one out for the Bea fans out there; yall aint deserve all that.

but i did want to hear about mvc3 :c

Tragic

She'll be aight, she's still got 22H.

Fuck this game,meanwhile Seox still exists

>slight nerf, to reel back the character with the rest of the roaster >starts doom posting >starts complaining about other characters Fighting games community man. I dont understand what they want

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

Ай бұрын

"Rest of roster" lmao

The simple explanation of why her, is that they're clearly trying to avoid CEO and EVO from repeating the 6/8 top 8 reps from being the same character like nieir or seox. I'm a beatrix player because coming from S2 strive Giovanna, and granblue didn't have that archetype represented very well, so I'm not a character loyalist but she's definitely my main before and after this patch. Frankly after discussing the 22 changes with a well noted high level player we landed with the opinion that 22U got hit way harder than 22M. Personally I think she'll be no lower than top 10 because the same time she gets recharging clock, she gets SSBA which is a free 10k regardless of the clock changes anyway.

@Living_Target

Ай бұрын

They should have just released the summer patch early instead, even if it was balanced with an unreleased character in mind for the optics though lol. I know those nerfs are coming. Maybe i can finally play like Kat again or something.

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

Ай бұрын

She wasn’t strong enough to make the current top tier players switch

@Living_Target

Ай бұрын

@@ANIMEILLUMINATI that's true, but im theory the rest of the bracket would have filled up with her, so the likelihood of over representation in bracket rises.

It's ridiculous to me that they panic emergency patched Bea when Nier, Sieg, Lance, Zeta, guard cancel, 66L, etc have all been allowed to cook since release lol. Like why not just wait to balance her with the big patch? WHY'D YOU CUT OFF BEA'S LEGS AND NIER IS STILL WALKIN FREE BRO I DON'T GET IT, AT LEAST BE CONSISTENT

And Sieg untouched

Well i was waiting for the nerf to play her, honestly she was overwelming even if u like her she was everywhere and to easy compared to other top tier now she gotta take a bit of skill i just hope she wont be the low tier

first 2b now bea. goon squad is in shambles

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

Ай бұрын

Gooonerssss

At first I didn’t care about her.. I didn’t like or dislike like her BUT when I seen the battle pass and it was for her I was pissed. I was like why they release her and she immediately gets a costume while people been waiting for their character to get a costume. I want my yuel costume.

Look what they did to my baby ;_;

I think the clap back on this is a bit over blown. I'm not saying i hope this is a trend cause i don't, hotfixes for characters like this is bad, but this nerf isn't going to make her terrible. M riding free, while it isn't plus anymore, is still safe on block and still grants good advantage on hit. The damage nerf isn't that huge of a deal cause it's made up pretty hard by how easy it still is for her to confirm. Plus they did nothing to her buttons, they're still fantastic. She's not bad now, she's just no longer contender for an easy top 3 anymore.

Didn't kokonoe also have an emergency nerf after her release?

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

Ай бұрын

No, she ran wild until arcade.

medium stroke gets an auto frametrap with the followup so it's still fake +

Normally I'd be screaming for nerfs but cmon man why. If we're gonna pretend the top 3 are balanced and kneecap the genki bakamoe gorilla that JUST came out and pretend that this is to protect tournaments that's just bs man...the top 10 of Combo Breaker had 3 niers for cryin out loud

nier has run rampant for how long and beatrix gets the nerf hammer within a month? the devs for this game are wildin.

I love that they keep killing all the characters that aren't Nier still too lol

RIP Beatrix May 2024 - June 2024. Like the paint didn't even dry on her and she gets this treatment. From the way some people act, you'd think she was the second coming of Labcoat 21, BBCP Kokonoe, Happy Chaos, Asuka and Nine the Phantom. Oh well, this is standard procedure with ASW doing emergency patches. They'll continue nerfing her even more when 1.50 drops and then it'll probably be about 7~9 patches more of rebalancing before she gets better.

can granblue just get an actual normal cancel system tho? after a couple of months I need something a little spicier than tap water.

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

Ай бұрын

Try a new character, that’s how I keep the game fresh

They didn't put her in a wheelchair.

And Seox and Lance players continue to evade the law... Life is never fair.

7:05 LOL I'm cracking up. That would be me. As soon as I found out this character existed I wanted her in so bad. She's like everything I could want in a character. Blue (best color), Brash, Indomitable will, self adoration, she has some guilty gear things which I grew up with, I like time mechanics, and they even gave her an immediate Halloween skin. I love horror and I usually play puppets so that's why my other pick is Nier. I understood both were busted and condone their nerfs, even if Nier's weren't enough. That damage is crazy lol. I think Bea's decent, but clipped for sure and I doubt they'll leave her this way, considering like you said, her okay normals don't really balance out her current identity. They'll probably amp them up, tweak things like 66M which wasn't that useful outside of niche scenarios. Awesome video. You've always made me laugh, thank you.

Beabrainbros...

Truly a balance team of all time like what is this lmao. I understand nerfs to 22m delta clock and overall damage but cmon.

@sozestone6469

Ай бұрын

Yep Beatrix is the problem as if we didn't just have a Nier mirror at Combo Breaker. This Dev team's focus is...interesting.

@mrharvy100

Ай бұрын

Are you seriously suggesting that her neutral skip tool should have remain untouched? Lol. Glad the balance is not run by some of the commentators I see here…

@mrharvy100

Ай бұрын

It’s almost like…you can have more than one problem in this game lol. What do you suggest? Don’t touch Beatrix at all if they are not gonna touch anyone else? That is dumb ass fuck

@TheOznow

Ай бұрын

@@mrharvy100 is 22m not the neutral skip tool?? lmao

I don’t really mind the damage nerfs,but the 22M changes just seem like way too much in my opinion.

I don't know why they're too afraid of nerfing Siegfried.

What the fuck did you do to my wife, fukuhara? I'll never forgive him

No more unga for me to bunga?

Im devastated 😭😭😭

Why'd they do it...? PATCH NIER

I'm interested to know which 5 characters you think are 100% better than her right now. The fact that she's consistently winning both offline and online tournaments and is extremely over-represented at all skill levels has to count for something. The crux of her high level gameplay is still intact, namely insane strike/throw reset pressure with 22L, 66L, 5H and U that basically forces you to down back whenever she's a character length away or has clock up. She can still convert to a full damage combo from almost anywhere, but now needs another 1 to 2 touches to finish you off. Her 22Xs are still basically unreactable, and only 22U is becoming unsafe.

@Living_Target

Ай бұрын

I think public sentiment has it as sieg, lance, seox, nier, belial in whatever order of flavor of the month, and personally i think (hot take?)Anilla and Bea are in current contention for either a top 5/6 slot.

@catspaw

Ай бұрын

@@Living_Target That's fair. I think you could make a case for her being anywhere between 3 and 5 imo.

@Living_Target

Ай бұрын

@@catspaw personally I feel that the these top 5 are too good to replace but I don't think there's really that much of a difference between top 5 and 6/7 whichever way you slice it

They're shooting Beatrix as Nier chuckles in the background.

They gave Nier some pittance nerfs. They

Beatrix? more like Bea-RIP

Back to six it is

@ANIMEILLUMINATI

Ай бұрын

God game

This patch was needed.

Siegfried still remains unchecked for his war crimes but weird move ig